National Cycling Championships 2014

Smalltom · 28-06-2014 11:59pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Does she have a Stradelli TT bike? If so, I saw exactly what the issue was right beside me at the check and in the carpark afterwards.

Come on-spit it out. The curiousity is killing this cat!!!

stecleary · 29-06-2014 3:00pm

Does Mullen get to keep the rr title or just the U23 title?

godtabh · 29-06-2014 3:32pm

stecleary wrote: »

Does Mullen get to keep the rr title or just the UK title?

Was just about to ask the same

Pudsy33 · 29-06-2014 3:48pm

Mullen is some prospect. Made that look easy in the end. Beat a decent field too.

lennymc · 29-06-2014 4:28pm

^^ yeah - great result for him.

I think he will be U23 rr champion because it goes by the UCI cat on his licence, but i could be wrong.

Pudsy33 · 29-06-2014 4:29pm

I think he gets the elite road race title too, I hope so anyway.

godtabh · 29-06-2014 4:42pm

Pudsy33 wrote: »

I think he gets the elite road race title too, I hope so anyway.

He didn't get the TT so i assume he doesn't get the road race

Eamonnator · 29-06-2014 4:45pm

Sean Downey is the new Elite Champion.

Pudsy33 · 29-06-2014 4:50pm

What's the purpose of the distinction between under 23 and elite? Surely if you win you should get both? Will the record books say Mullen or Downey?

lennymc · 29-06-2014 4:52pm

Pudsy33 wrote: »

What's the purpose of the distinction between under 23 and elite? Surely if you win you should get both? Will the record books say Mullen or Downey?

you are racing in a the category for which you have a licence. If your licence says elite you can win the elite, if it says u23 you can win the u23, veteran can win vets cship etc AFAIK.

Eamonnator · 29-06-2014 4:58pm

I imagine, the U23 category, was introduced, to give young seniors a chance . See, how that worked out.
The records will show, that Downey, is the Elite Champion. He will also have the jersey and the gold medal.

Lusk_Doyle · 29-06-2014 5:02pm

It doesn't matter. We all know who won and how.

Diarmuid · 29-06-2014 5:38pm

He was awarded both jerseys in the presentation for whatever that's worth

morana · 29-06-2014 5:45pm

yeah think he gets both in RR but not TT

wav1 · 29-06-2014 5:53pm

He is both elite and u23 champion.I have no idea what the difference between TT rules and R/R Rules are??.Beasty mentioned something in this regard earlier.enlighten me.Anyway a worthy champion

ednwireland · 29-06-2014 6:34pm

some ride from mullen, just rode away from the break with 2 laps to go

great day really well organised by lakeside wheelers, well done.

Beasty · 29-06-2014 6:41pm

morana wrote: »

yeah think he gets both in RR but not TT

Doesn't stack up with the decisions taken at last year's track championships. The explanation given was if there's a champioship for your category you quanlify for that but not any other category. Hence as there were separate vets championships for men anyone with a vet licence could not take part in the senior champioships. As there was no separate women's vets championships the veteran women could take part in the their senior championships

GMCI · 29-06-2014 6:44pm

16. In respect of the Senior Road Race Championship where the first rider placed is an U23 (Espoir) rider then the National Champion’s Jersey will be awarded to this rider and this will be the only Jersey awarded.
Where the first rider placed is an Elite rider then he will receive the National Champion’s Jersey as will the first U23 (Espoir) rider placed who will be known as the National U23 (Espoir) Champion.
17. In respect of the Senior Road Race Championship there will be 2 sets of Individual Medals relative to the two categories and in the situation where an U23 (Espoir) rider is one of the first three riders placed then he will receive two medals.

ednwireland · 29-06-2014 6:46pm

just as an aside - i didnt get there for the start, what happened to deignan did he even start ?

sheepfield · 29-06-2014 8:50pm

WINNING ODDS:

Mullen 33-1
Downey 25-1
O'Brien 16-1

Holy Moly, thats some trio, not to mention McCrystal @25-1 4th. With none of the major favourites on the podium, twould be probably near 20,000-1 if we were betting on the tote!!! Great race to watch and the whole set-up in Multi was fantastic; probably the best I have seen. Didn't have a bet, though really fancied Bennett if I was being honest.

lennymc · 29-06-2014 9:08pm

thanks for the clarification GMCI.

Andy Magic · 29-06-2014 9:43pm

Great day out, well done to Lakeside Wheelers for all the marshalling/organising. Mullen was flying on the last two laps.

ednwireland · 29-06-2014 9:58pm

a few pictures https://www.facebook.com/ed.wiazewicz/media_set?set=a.845361758822191.1073741830.100000451232802&type=1

sullzz · 29-06-2014 10:25pm

a few pics from today , great day

sullzz · 29-06-2014 10:28pm

a few more

sullzz · 29-06-2014 10:44pm

more pics

sullzz · 29-06-2014 10:47pm

another few

Lusk_Doyle · 30-06-2014 9:04am

Smalltom wrote: »

Come on-spit it out. The curiousity is killing this cat!!!

She had a similar setup to the one below with a load of spacers between the arm rests and the bit where the brake levers are. The issue, from what I gathered is that there was a distance in excess of 10cm from the arm rest to the brake levers and that this was against THE RULES!

The chap from CI had a metal doo-hickey that looked a bit like a police baton or a techincal drawing t-square. He held this upside down beside the arm rest with the long piece pointing forward and said that she was outside of the limits. I didn't understand how he could calculate that as there was no measuring tape, not did he angle his device in such a way as to demonstrate his point. It was just a case of it is not allowed, end of.

LCD · 30-06-2014 9:18am

http://thebikestation.ie/

Race report

Beasty · 30-06-2014 9:19am

I think that 10cm rule was amended towards the end of last year and was fully effective for this season. I guess a few could get caught out by it as it is new and there are few events where the mneasuring jig is used. Can't blame the scrutineers - they are required to apply UCI rules. Not that many riders adopt such an extreme position, but my understanding is there are advantages to it, certainly for some. There were one or two oither tweaks introduced IIRC.

The tax man · 30-06-2014 9:20am

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

The chap from CI had a metal doo-hickey that looked a bit like a police baton or a techincal drawing t-square.

The technical t-square turns into a police baton when you start to argue with them.
I'd love to stick my bike through this test, they'd probably just hit me over the head with their doo-Hickey and tell me to go away.:D

Lusk_Doyle · 30-06-2014 9:30am

The tax man wrote: »

The technical t-square turns into a police baton when you start to argue with them.
I'd love to stick my bike through this test, they'd probably just hit me over the head with their doo-Hickey and tell me to go away.:D

I went back to him at least three times on the night. I'd say he was sick of the sight of me by the last time and just let me go to get rid of me!

Lusk_Doyle · 30-06-2014 9:31am

Beasty wrote: »

I think that 10cm rule was amended towards the end of last year and was fully effective for this season. I guess a few could get caught out by it as it is new and there are few events where the mneasuring jig is used. Can't blame the scrutineers - they are required to apply UCI rules. Not that many riders adopt such an extreme position, but my understanding is there are advantages to it, certainly for some. There were one or two oither tweaks introduced IIRC.

Is it not a vertical measurement though, rather than a diagonal one?

Taxuser1 · 30-06-2014 11:28am

sheepfield wrote: »

WINNING ODDS:

Mullen 33-1
Downey 25-1
O'Brien 16-1

Holy Moly, thats some trio, not to mention McCrystal @25-1 4th. With none of the major favourites on the podium, twould be probably near 20,000-1 if we were betting on the tote!!! Great race to watch and the whole set-up in Multi was fantastic; probably the best I have seen. Didn't have a bet, though really fancied Bennett if I was being honest.

I tweeted the 1-2-3 but had Bennett as the winner

had both Downey and Paidi backed - Paidi was flying in Clare last week and is just so smart always. Downey was always motoring and was overpriced.

The tax man · 30-06-2014 2:16pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

I went back to him at least three times on the night. I'd say he was sick of the sight of me by the last time and just let me go to get rid of me!

The main thing is, they cracked first.

buffalo · 30-06-2014 2:32pm

Was down in Multy for the weekend, and have to compliment Lakeside on a great set of National Champs. Whatever about the comms on Thursday night (which is out of their control as I understand it), even as we waited around on Saturday to hear the news, they fed us and kept us informed of what the latest from the Gardaí was. In the end, they made the only call they could. What happened was tragic, and in the grand scheme of things, it's only a bike race. Hopefully the women will get their day in the sun (literally) soon enough.

The men's race was bloody tough for the first two laps, then eased off as the big guns gradually slipped away up the road. Crowds were brilliant, roads were lovely and smooth, Gaybo was as entertaining as ever, and the atmosphere was just fantastic. I had some non-cycling friends in the area, and even they had a great day out - there was a real festival feel to the village, with a market and a playground to keep you distracted between laps.

Taxuser1 · 30-06-2014 3:26pm

buffalo wrote: »

Was down in Multy for the weekend, and have to compliment Lakeside on a great set of National Champs. Whatever about the comms on Thursday night (which is out of their control as I understand it), even as we waited around on Saturday to hear the news, they fed us and kept us informed of what the latest from the Gardaí was. In the end, they made the only call they could. What happened was tragic, and in the grand scheme of things, it's only a bike race. Hopefully the women will get their day in the sun (literally) soon enough.

The men's race was bloody tough for the first two laps, then eased off as the big guns gradually slipped away up the road. Crowds were brilliant, roads were lovely and smooth, Gaybo was as entertaining as ever, and the atmosphere was just fantastic. I had some non-cycling friends in the area, and even they had a great day out - there was a real festival feel to the village, with a market and a playground to keep you distracted between laps.

that your first Senior Nationals Buffalo ? Great to to be involved in it no matter how the race goes, always a brilliant race.

buffalo · 30-06-2014 7:41pm

Taxuser1 wrote: »

that your first Senior Nationals Buffalo ? Great to to be involved in it no matter how the race goes, always a brilliant race.

Road Race Champs, yes.

Went better for me than the lad from Carrick whose pedal came off the crank about 4km in! Was still stuck to the cleat thankfully, and he and all behind stayed upright thankfully!

Beasty · 30-06-2014 8:26pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Is it not a vertical measurement though, rather than a diagonal one?

The UCI sent a letter out to manufacturers which included the following

The height difference between the point of support for the elbows and the highest and lowest points of the handlebar extension (including the gear levers) shall be less than 10 cm in order to guarantee that the forearms are horizontal

Not sure what you're getting at referring to "diagonal". It's the vertical distance we are talking about, but the lowest point is likely to be at a different point horizontally than the elbow support, so the measurements can be taken in different places with the difference being determined by the respective heights above ground level

jimm · 26-07-2014 3:01pm

Ladies and Vets races rescheduled for Sept 20th.

http://www.cyclingireland.ie/cycling-news-item/women-and-vets-national-championships-rescheduled/286

5 days of recovery for the ladies after Ras na mBan!!!!

greenmat · 20-09-2014 6:41pm

Congratulation to Lakeside Wheelers on a fantastically run race today. Major kudos too to the residents of Multyfarnham and Westmeath Co Co, many thanks. And what a finish, such a beautiful place. Only completed 4 of the 6 laps myself so got to see the business end of the race finish. Super win for Keith Gater and the other 2 in the break to fill the podium. And what a ride by Greg Swinard, nearly caught the break on last lap, made up mountains of time on last lap.

buffalo · 20-09-2014 7:09pm

Fiona Meade. #hero

sullzz · 20-09-2014 7:30pm

Was down looking at it myself , another great day hosted be lakeside wheelers , Fiona Meade had a great race finished off by a sprint finish , only saw one accident at the corner just at the start / finish area , poor Orwell girl and ucd girl came down I think it was a pedal hitting the ground on the bend , ucd girl got up and finished the race but the Orwell girl wasn't as lucky , she had to get brough off in the ambulance , Keith Gater also played a blinder with a fantastic last lap pulling away from the 2 carrick lads , swinand could have placed if he made his move a bit sooner he just ran out of road. Great day over all.

sullzz · 20-09-2014 7:39pm

Few pics

sullzz · 20-09-2014 7:41pm

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harringtonp · 20-09-2014 9:27pm

Great day, joy to race on closed roads in a well mannered bunch.

Zyzz · 21-09-2014 8:24pm

sullzz wrote: »

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I wish my calves were like the guys on the right

Beasty · 21-09-2014 8:39pm

Zyzz wrote: »

I wish my calves were like the guys on the right

I've got his contact details if you want to make him an offer:p

National Cycling Championships 2014

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