Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

yuloni · 27-02-2015 2:13pm

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Gonzo · 27-02-2015 2:19pm

The Dunshaughlin exchange goes live in 3 weeks.

Even tho i'll never be able to benefit from the eVDSL or current eFibre rollout, I have noticed my speeds have increased again over the past week. Up till a month ago I was getting syncing between 7 and 8.5meg, then 2 weeks ago started syncing at 10.5meg and this week its gone up again.

now I am getting:

Speed: 11606 kbps/670 kbps
Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 38.9 dB/ 19.1 dB

This is an increase of approx 3megs on average over what I used to get up untill recently.

yuloni · 27-02-2015 2:32pm

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yuloni · 27-02-2015 2:39pm

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ED E · 27-02-2015 2:41pm

BK is like little finger (GoT reference), always in the know

dbit wrote: »

i need to live near this one, just for its name sake DBT1

Donnabate, not sure you do! :pac:

yuloni wrote: »

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If theyre all going RFO that soon it means the racks are already sitting there, eircom has been chomping at the bit for this starting gun. Now we're off to the races.

Gonzo wrote: »

.. syncing between 7 and 8.5meg, then 2 weeks ago started syncing at 10.5meg and this week its gone up again.

now I am getting:

Speed: 11606 kbps/670 kbps
Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 38.9 dB/ 19.1 dB

If your sync rate exceeded 8.1Mb then they haven't changed your profile code, and probably not the port.

Either field work has improved your loop, or the more likely, the line cards in the exchange are emptying out rapidly as most of the area moves to VDSL. Bye bye crosstalk.

Update:
Just to add, thats only 74 Exchanges listed for DF. 74 of 900+, theres a lot still to do, but its a very good start.

dbit · 27-02-2015 2:42pm

Nothing, absaloutley nothing for Cork Macroom eat me Smearcom .

kaizersoze · 27-02-2015 2:52pm

I suspected something was about to happen. 5 or 6 KN vans aroung Ballinasloe (BSE1) for the last week or so.

bk · 27-02-2015 2:53pm

ED E wrote: »

BK is like little finger (GoT reference), always in the know

I just wish I had his harem of ladies

ItHurtsWhenIP · 27-02-2015 2:58pm

yuloni wrote: »

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If the exchange dots don't show up, does that mean they don't love us? :rolleyes:

ED E · 27-02-2015 3:01pm

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

If the exchange dots don't show up, does that mean they don't love us? :rolleyes:

Means you're likely talking post 2016.

dbit · 27-02-2015 3:03pm

ED E wrote: »

Means you're likely talking post 2016.

Time to move !!!!

Gonzo · 27-02-2015 3:04pm

yuloni wrote: »

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I have been on ADSL2+ for past year, I previously had a belkin modem. When I was moved to ADSL2+ I would sync between 7200k and on rare occassions around 9600k. This modem broke 16 days ago and currently have an Eircom D1000 on lend and when I connected with that i synced at 10200k but since then it's been rising steadily over the past 2 weeks. There hasn't been any disconnections since I first connected the modem. System uptime is now almost 16 days and the sync rate has risen 3 times since I first powered the modem on.

There is a duct 500meters from my house and an Eircom guy was working there last week for a few hours. A neighbour stopped and asked him was he gonna put efibre there and he said no.

ClonNGB · 27-02-2015 3:07pm

For foxes mints, Clonakilty igonored again. CKY1

ED E · 27-02-2015 3:12pm

Remember, this is 3wks away. That'll keep the installers busy for a few months doing in premises works, they may well add another rake of exchanges at that point.

Anyone counted the number of exchanges in blue on the map? Might indicate the size of this phase.

dbit · 27-02-2015 3:13pm

ClonNGB wrote: »

For foxes mints, Clonakilty igonored again. CKY1

Im only over the road in macroom same, i have three fold grated duct at the foot of my front door itll be ftth if i stayed long enough . but i cant i need real broadband badly for work.

ClonNGB · 27-02-2015 3:33pm

It seems like a lot of the places getting eVDSL are in UPC areas, which means this is to fight off the 240Mb UPC offers which must be killing Eircom. If you are lucky to live in these areas you will have a glut of options.

guil · 27-02-2015 3:46pm

Bah. No cur1 on the list.

dbit · 27-02-2015 3:48pm

ClonNGB wrote: »

It seems like a lot of the places getting eVDSL are in UPC areas, which means this is to fight off the 240Mb UPC offers which must be killing Eircom. If you are lucky to live in these areas you will have a glut of options.

I agree they may be focusing on areas where they have suffered the most loss . Certainly looks that way to me.

IE Clon and Macroom are a closed area for them in terms of subscribers with no other vendors to challenge them.

cupthehand1 · 02-03-2015 4:04pm

I'm not sure if this is news as such but I'm connected directly to the exchange and was told a solution is being worked on etc and hopefully be implemented within the next 12 months. But this week when i enter my number in eircoms efibre checker its now showing up as I can get efibre but my download speed would only be 7Mb, not much use since I already get about 12Mb on my adsl but that online checker has never before said that I could avail of it, is it possibly an error or are there developments for those directly connected? Anyone else noticing this?

ED E · 02-03-2015 4:45pm

cupthehand1 wrote: »

I'm not sure if this is news as such but I'm connected directly to the exchange and was told a solution is being worked on etc and hopefully be implemented within the next 12 months. But this week when i enter my number in eircoms efibre checker its now showing up as I can get efibre but my download speed would only be 7Mb, not much use since I already get about 12Mb on my adsl but that online checker has never before said that I could avail of it, is it possibly an error or are there developments for those directly connected? Anyone else noticing this?

12Mb suggests you're further than 2KM from the exchange. Surprised you're prequalling at all.

Wait for FTTH.

charlie_says · 02-03-2015 5:07pm

Is there anyway of finding which cabinet/exchange you are connected to via phone number?

2/3 that are the only ones nearest me (and they are grouped together in Moycullen in Co. Galway) are eFibre ready.

Currently syncing at 2Mbit at my folks house. They are getting really annoyed. They blame me for anything that goes wrong for computers/internet. :rolleyes: Attenuation is crazy high on their line, can't quite recall the exact value but it's nearly 60 dB.

cupthehand1 · 03-03-2015 11:42am

ED E wrote: »

12Mb suggests you're further than 2KM from the exchange. Surprised you're prequalling at all.

Wait for FTTH.

The worst thing is, I have two cabinets either side of my house less than 50m each way yet they are white elephants for me. FTTH will be years away from my small, rural village in Co. Limerick I'm afraid. :rolleyes:

dbit · 03-03-2015 11:45am

cupthehand1 wrote: »

The worst thing is, I have two cabinets either side of my house less than 50m each way yet they are white elephants for me. FTTH will be years away from my small, rural village in Co. Limerick I'm afraid. :rolleyes:

dont you worry Boy Enda and the NBP has you covered ,tee hee sorry had too im in the same boat , lets sink together ?

bk · 03-03-2015 11:59am

cupthehand1 wrote: »

The worst thing is, I have two cabinets either side of my house less than 50m each way yet they are white elephants for me. FTTH will be years away from my small, rural village in Co. Limerick I'm afraid. :rolleyes:

If those are FTTC cabs, then it is highly likely that it will be relatively cheap and easy for Eircom to run FTTH from one of these to your homes.

In fact your are the ideal customer for this sort of service.

Alan_P · 03-03-2015 1:46pm

bk wrote: »

If those are FTTC cabs, then it is highly likely that it will be relatively cheap and easy for Eircom to run FTTH from one of these to your homes.

In fact your are the ideal customer for this sort of service.

Can I clarify what's being proposed here ? My phone line is directly connected to the exchange, and way too far for FTTC. (In fact, I got ADSL connected last year as an experiment, and got a maximum of 8 Mb). I'm at such a distance, I'm not really interested in any kind of solution that connects me directly to the exchange.

There is a FTTC cabinet visible from my front door, I could probably throw a ball and hit it. Under the latest plan, will Eircom just connect me via fibre or copper to that cabinet ?

dbit · 03-03-2015 1:50pm

Those cabs will have fiber termination points and splitters/splices that they will feed from those cabs to your home ( Not all but most will be done from cabs)

I like you am direct fed and have triple grated duct access at my front door , thses man holes eircom owned will have fiber gear dropped into them when they begin the ftth roll outs so blowing a fibre run from there to you will be easy pickings for them as it would be the same for me . I am not hanging around anymore though . Im done waiting .

bk · 03-03-2015 1:50pm

Alan_P wrote: »

There is a FTTC cabinet visible from my front door, I could probably throw a ball and hit it. Under the latest plan, will Eircom just connect me via fibre or copper to that cabinet ?

No, under eVDSL, the VDSL is from the exchange.

Eircom could move the line to the cab and there is some evidence they have done this in a small number of cases, but for the most part they don't seem to be doing it.

Once they complete the VDSL rollout and hit the low hanging fruit, the hope is that they will start to do such network reconfiguration then. Alternatively they may opt to skip this and just run a new FTTH fiber cable from your closest cab to your home.

ED E · 03-03-2015 1:51pm

The new phase for both on their own and as part of the NBP is FTTH. Thats a fibre drop into your home.

Those green boxes are both fed by 24 fibres, each. They each use 4 of these with 20 sitting "dark". When this new product starts rolling out you'd be spliced onto one of the dark fibres with 10-20 of your neighbors, and distance is pretty much irrelevant

dbit · 03-03-2015 1:55pm

ED E wrote: »

The new phase for both on their own and as part of the NBP is FTTH. Thats a fibre drop into your home.

Those green boxes are both fed by 24 fibres, each. They each use 4 of these with 20 sitting "dark". When this new product starts rolling out you'd be spliced onto one of the dark fibres with 10-20 of your neighbors, and distance is pretty much irrelevant

Fap Fap Fap i love when you say Dark Fiber .

cupthehand1 · 03-03-2015 6:02pm

bk wrote: »

If those are FTTC cabs, then it is highly likely that it will be relatively cheap and easy for Eircom to run FTTH from one of these to your homes.

In fact your are the ideal customer for this sort of service.

Yep those are FTTC cabs and all my neighbours are currently getting 80+Mb speeds. At least some of the replies on this have given me new hope, but I won't be holding my breath for developments anytime soon

MediaHaul · 10-03-2015 1:09pm

Just wondering if anyone has seen their cab / exchange go live as mentioned by BK on page 14?

Still grey for me on the where / when rollout map so really hoping they go live on the 18th!

bk · 10-03-2015 4:48pm

MediaHaul wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone has seen their cab / exchange go live as mentioned by BK on page 14?

Still grey for me on the where / when rollout map so really hoping they go live on the 18th!

I've heard that some of them have already gone live. But I don't know which ones.

MediaHaul · 10-03-2015 4:51pm

Thanks BK! I am directly connected to CEL1 (main exchange in Celbridge, Kildare). Recently switched to Sky so hoping when this goes live (if it does) I can bump up my connection.

As someone who has never had fibre like UPC etc this would be a dream!

If you hear anymore stick it up here if possible :-)

ED E · 10-03-2015 5:00pm

MediaHaul wrote: »

Thanks BK! I am directly connected to CEL1 (main exchange in Celbridge, Kildare). Recently switched to Sky so hoping when this goes live (if it does) I can bump up my connection.

As someone who has never had fibre like UPC etc this would be a dream!

If you hear anymore stick it up here if possible :-)

Better hope they dont delay eVDSL by 18 months like they did with VDSL so.

yuloni · 10-03-2015 5:54pm

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MediaHaul · 11-03-2015 11:37am

According to Eircom and Sky my Fibre is enabled, since about 2 weeks ago, but only clocking at a speed of 12mbps (my adsl gives me 16mbps).

So I'm hoping when the exchange actually turns green and is properly live this will change.

12mbps makes no sense given that I'm about 100-150m away from the exchange at most.

kaizersoze · 12-03-2015 1:22pm

MediaHaul wrote: »

According to Eircom and Sky my Fibre is enabled, since about 2 weeks ago, but only clocking at a speed of 12mbps (my adsl gives me 16mbps).

So I'm hoping when the exchange actually turns green and is properly live this will change.

12mbps makes no sense given that I'm about 100-150m away from the exchange at most.

Exchange?

BullBauld · 12-03-2015 5:04pm

Question please for soemone who is a bit green on these things!

There is a live fibre cabinet(according to Eircom site, RCM1_015) approx 1km from my own and my parents house.

My parents have (poor) broadband for a good few years now and when I do a fibre line checker it's saying it's not available in our area.

How do I find out if my parents are connected to this cabinet/exchange.

I'm comtemplating getting broadband for my own house but not if it's anything like my parents currently have.

Thanks

loyatemu · 12-03-2015 10:40pm

BullBauld wrote: »

How do I find out if my parents are connected to this cabinet/exchange.

they're not. If they were the line checker would tell you they could get eFibre.

kaizersoze · 13-03-2015 11:11am

loyatemu wrote: »

they're not. If they were the line checker would tell you they could get eFibre.

Not true. Plenty around here can't get it even though they're connected to a copper distribution cab that is services by a live fibre cab. Most well within 1Km of the cab.
My cab went live last week. There is a crossroads about 500mtrs from it. Everyone up to the crossroad and everyone down the road to the right can get fibre but the houses up the road to the left cannot.

MediaHaul · 16-03-2015 2:26pm

So just got off the phone with an Eircom engineer (there was an issue with my line and he was in the exchange working on it). He said that my main exchange that I am directly connected to CEL1 was live. So I contacted eircom enquiring and they have told me efibre is enabled and the max I can get is 24mbps.

This sucks because I am only 150m / 200 yards from the connection. They said that distance meant nothing and I could be the last connection in a 10k area. After all my waiting it seems pointless to change to fibre now given I am getting 16mbps on adsl.

Sky Broadband, who I am with, told me they clocked the fibre at 12mbps when last tested.

Soul destroying after all the waiting.

Nolars · 16-03-2015 2:39pm

MediaHaul wrote: »

So just got off the phone with an Eircom engineer (there was an issue with my line and he was in the exchange working on it). He said that my main exchange that I am directly connected to CEL1 was live. So I contacted eircom enquiring and they have told me efibre is enabled and the max I can get is 24mbps.

This sucks because I am only 150m / 200 yards from the connection. They said that distance meant nothing and I could be the last connection in a 10k area. After all my waiting it seems pointless to change to fibre now given I am getting 16mbps on adsl.

Sky Broadband, who I am with, told me they clocked the fibre at 12mbps when last tested.

Soul destroying after all the waiting.

the upload will be miles better if/when you change over.

ED E · 16-03-2015 2:39pm

1800M from the exchange would give 16Mb or a little better on ADSL2+, about 12 on VDSL. This was always going to be the case with lines of this nature.

If there was definitely a wiring fault on your line though, that could throw the prequals and give bad estimates. Get your dAttenuation figure from your modem. If its around 25dB then the above is right, if lower you might do better.

MediaHaul · 16-03-2015 2:45pm

ED E wrote: »

1800M from the exchange would give 16Mb or a little better on ADSL2+, about 12 on VDSL. This was always going to be the case with lines of this nature.

If there was definitely a wiring fault on your line though, that could throw the prequals and give bad estimates. Get your dAttenuation figure from your modem. If its around 25dB then the above is right, if lower you might do better.

Thanks ED E.

How would I go about getting that info from my modem?

And I'm not 1800m I am 150m from the exchange. Seems a bit mad.

ED E · 16-03-2015 2:49pm

150M from a VDSL cabinet, or the exchange building itself? Is it possible your line runs "the other way" around the block to get there?

Login to your modem at 192.168.1.254 with username and password from the bottom/googling them (depends on modem model/ISP). The status or diagnostic page will show the line rates: speed, attenuation, SNR. Copy paste them here and we can review.

MediaHaul · 16-03-2015 2:59pm

ED E wrote: »

150M from a VDSL cabinet, or the exchange building itself? Is it possible your line runs "the other way" around the block to get there?

Login to your modem at 192.168.1.254 with username and password from the bottom/googling them (depends on modem model/ISP). The status or diagnostic page will show the line rates: speed, attenuation, SNR. Copy paste them here and we can review.

Great thanks!

I would be very surprised if it went the long way around to be honest.

Time will tell I suppose. I may go fibre just for the better upload speed as suggested above.

loyatemu · 18-03-2015 12:30pm

bk wrote: »

Ok, some really good news, I've heard that eVDSL has gotten the go ahead and that the following exchanges will go live on the 18/03/2014:

AFD1
CRT1
LCN1
RUY1
ASN1
CRW1
LHA1
SAN1
BBS1
CTY1
LKD1
SHN1
BCA1
CVN1
MAH1
SKS1
BDT1
DBN1
MGN1
SND1
BLP1
DBT1
MGR1
SRL1
BMN1
DGS1
MHZ1
STN1
BRN2
DNN1
MNT1
THS1
BSE1
DNU1
MSN1
TLR1
BTE1
DSN1
MYN1
TRM1
BUO1
FBK1
NAS1
TWV1
BWM1
FNG1
NWT1
VGA1
CAB1
FOX1
OGT1
WAL1
CEL1
GMR1
PGS1
WST1
CHD1
GRS1
PMK1
CLS1
ISL1
PRP1
CLT1
KDN1
RCL1
CNR1
KGN1
RSL1
CPH1
KLO1
RTD1
CRL1
KME1
RUS1

Today's the day - have any of these gone live (my local GRS1 is still blue on the map)./

MediaHaul · 18-03-2015 12:32pm

Mine is still not green but as I said previous I think it is actually live (but I'm getting speeds that aren't worth changing over to)

Praetorian · 18-03-2015 12:35pm

My numbers on the relevant exhange are not appearing as enabled on the eircom web site. I'm assuming it may take some time for that system to be updated.

mass_debater · 18-03-2015 1:13pm

Some of those exchanges are already live, I know a business who got installed direct from Ballymote exchange 2 weeks ago

Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

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