Amiko Alien2 / SAB / GM / ST7162 ENIGMA Discussion Thread

Fresh Pots · 30-03-2015 1:07pm

taytobreath wrote: »

Hi guys, I changed some settings on the permanent time shift and now my box is stuck on boot, it gets as far as "load 99" and then start, and then it green screens me. I have it connected to my laptop via dcc and I can get access to it thru ftp. Its Zardoz's image.
What can i do to stop this.
thanks in advance

Might be very hard to figure out exactly what's causing it and without ftp working it makes things even more complicated. A reflash of the image would be the easiest thing to do IMO.

Zardoz · 30-03-2015 1:09pm

taytobreath wrote: »

Hi guys, I changed some settings on the permanent time shift and now my box is stuck on boot, it gets as far as "load 99" and then start, and then it green screens me. I have it connected to my laptop via dcc and I can get access to it thru ftp. Its Zardoz's image.
What can i do to stop this.
thanks in advance

I'd say ftp in and delete the permanent timeshift folder in usr/lib/enigma 2/python/extensions/plugins

taytobreath · 30-03-2015 1:10pm

Fresh Pots wrote: »

Might be very hard to figure out exactly what's causing it and without ftp working it makes things even more complicated. A reflash of the image would be the easiest thing to do IMO.

hi.
I just got it sorted, I deleted the permanent timeshift folder by ftp.
How do i get permanent timeshift back now lol

Fresh Pots · 30-03-2015 1:12pm

taytobreath wrote: »

hi.
I just got it sorted, I deleted the permanent timeshift folder by ftp.
How do i get permanent timeshift back now lol

Good to hear, I misread your post and thought you couldn't access ftp. If you go to olugins, press green, you'll find pts under the utilities tab.

taytobreath · 30-03-2015 1:17pm

its not in there,. or under any other of the menus

Zardoz · 30-03-2015 1:19pm

taytobreath wrote: »

its not in there,.

Here you go

taytobreath · 30-03-2015 1:23pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Here you go

legend...thanks:)

and thanks freshpots too

how.gareth · 30-03-2015 1:35pm

deezell wrote: »

Check that Webif plugin is running. Check that it's Http access is on. It also can use https access. This may be on or not. Check network configuration to ensure you have the correct IP and subnet mask. Check your router devices on the router web interface to see that the device is showing on the list. Are you using DHCP or have you given the box a fixed IP. If fixed, make sure it was not already allocated, http would go to the first device in this case. Best way to fix an IP is to use DHCP to get a free one then turn off DHCP on the box. The IP will stick. is Rte player working? EDIT; If you fix the IP, be aware that the router may still allocate it elsewhere when the box is switched off. A mobile phone, tablet, anything can grab it. Switch the box back on and it doesn't know the IP is already gone. You will still get compromised connectivity, the router will accept data packets from the box and respond to it's MAC address, but an HTTP request to this IP will be bound to the MAC address of the device which has been alloctaed it when it was free on the router (while the box was off). You need to check your router keeps IP addresses bound to the device even when the device is off. It varies with router brands how this is done. Some store a device list, which can get crowded with visiting phones and redundant devices (old xboxes and the like), some use IP reservation tables.

Wow cheers for that, my poor little brain just curled up and died at all that technical info! Will give it a go when I get home and see what happens, if not I will try reflashing it in case I have some settings wrong

how.gareth · 30-03-2015 4:41pm

Ok not sure how or why but I went through all the settings on the box and in the network mounts I discovered my router and laptop had both been given the same ip on the box. Deleted the router one and streaming is working fine, I think I messed around with the settings when I was trying to figure out how to see the external drive of my box on my laptop, that's still not sorted but at least the streaming is, thanks for all the help and advice as usual

Nowso · 30-03-2015 4:47pm

you should be able to view the hdd on your laptop on the network tab on your windows explorer its the sharing settings you need to alter

Imstuck · 30-03-2015 4:50pm

Is there an easy way for a numpty like myself to play on the tv what is playing onscreen on my android tablet??

I think I've read before that this is possible, if there is could someone go easy on me in the explanation! Lol

This would be a right bonus.

Many thanks in advance

Nowso · 30-03-2015 5:06pm

once your on the same network go onto the ip of your box and play it via open webif

not certain re tablet . vlc works on laptop

Imstuck · 30-03-2015 5:16pm

I can get into webif on tablet, don't know where to go from there thats all.... Status, config etc etc......

bappelbe · 30-03-2015 5:22pm

Imstuck wrote: »

I can get into webif on tablet, don't know where to go from there thats all.... Status, config etc etc......

I use an app on my android phone called DreamDroid, you can do lots of stuff with it, I find streaming HD particularly, is poor but that is quite likely the processing power of my phone.
There are a few apps to play with
Edit: you need to install VLC as well for streaming

Fresh Pots · 30-03-2015 5:27pm

Imstuck wrote: »

I can get into webif on tablet, don't know where to go from there thats all.... Status, config etc etc......

As bappelbe says try dreamdroid. Or in the browser go to the ip of the box. Sounds like you are in the oscam interface if you can see status and config etc. You need to leave off the :8888.

Nowso · 30-03-2015 6:00pm

Imstuck wrote: »

I can get into webif on tablet, don't know where to go from there thats all.... Status, config etc etc......

go onto the station and click the little tv on the right stick to sd channels

how.gareth · 30-03-2015 6:30pm

Nowso wrote: »

you should be able to view the hdd on your laptop on the network tab on your windows explorer its the sharing settings you need to alter

Any easy to explain way to do this for someone like myself?

Gerry Wicklow · 30-03-2015 6:38pm

I found that Samba might not be configured by default. Simply go BLUE PANEL>MOUNT CENTER>SMB SERVER. Don't need to change any settings simply hit RUN (green) and SAVE (red) You might need to reboot the box. It should show up under network on your windows explorer as SPARK 7162 or similar.

Imstuck · 30-03-2015 9:32pm

Right fellas I'm in openwebif, how do I get it to stream?

Under stream on bottom left of options it just has 'movies' with a box I can tick with an option of zap before stream??

Fresh Pots · 30-03-2015 9:35pm

Imstuck wrote: »

Right fellas I'm in openwebif, how do I get it to stream?

Under stream on bottom left of options it just has 'movies' with a box I can tick with an option of zap before stream??

As nowso says click on the telly icon beside the channel you want to stream.

Imstuck · 30-03-2015 9:39pm

Doh!!
Thanks guys!!

Just a black screen, would this work on iPad as this is what I'm currently trying to do....

Nowso · 30-03-2015 9:40pm

Fresh Pots wrote: »

As nowso says click on the telly icon beside the channel you want to stream.

not there no
in the main at the top left select tv then go to bouquets or satellites select the one then select the channel and hit box

Imstuck · 30-03-2015 9:49pm

It's trying to stream but just a black screen, ideas?

'Cannot decode' displayed.

soberasajudge · 30-03-2015 10:07pm

Lads,
Having recording issues. When I record a program, I can only watch a different program in the same bouquet e.g. record BBC1(entertainment), cannot watch the travel channel(lifestyle). I have both tuners connected and set to 28.2E . Any ideas?

deezell · 30-03-2015 10:41pm

Imstuck wrote: »

It's trying to stream but just a black screen, ideas?

When you click on the little telly icon the following file is downloaded , stream.m3u this is just a text file containg the actual stream details, typical example:
#EXTM3U
#EXTVLCOPT--http-reconnect=true
#EXTVLCOPT:program=1102
http://192.168.1.80:8001/1:0:19:44E:3E9:2174:EEEE0000:0:0:0:
The line at the bottom is a URL to the box, the numbers after the hyphen are the channel ID of the channel you clicked to stream. When you click the icon you may get a choice of which media player to use to play the content. It may also just default to windows media player, which might just sit there with a blank screen. My experience is that VLC player is the only one that seems to work, on an ancient enough laptop. you can right click on the icon and save the .m3u file. You can then open VLC or another media player and use File/Open to open this file/stream, sometimes this seems to work better. I also found that on an android phone I seldom got webif streaming to open, and it didn't offer VLC as a choice of player. The dreamdroid app which is substantially the same worked every time, especially when VLC was chosen. Finally, if you are trying to stream on a device that is not on the same local network, a phone for example connected to the internet via its own data rather than the same local network that the box is on. You need to to do the following. Assuming you can see webIf on you device, this means that your router is passing the WebIf interface to the outside world, the WAN. This can happen automatically if the box is the only device on your network that has an HTTP interface using port 80. However, the stream needs to go out on port 8001, and this may need to be setup in the router to forward traffic out of the box from the internal ip of the box at port 8001 to the external ip of the box at port8001. This allows you to see streams outside of your own network, but unless you have a fairly high upload speed, about 2Mb/s, the results will be rubbish anyway. EDIT. On an Ipad you would have Quicktime as the default player. I couldn't get a response when choosing Quicktime for windows, I dont have an Apple device to test.

deezell · 30-03-2015 10:55pm

soberasajudge wrote: »

Lads,
Having recording issues. When I record a program, I can only watch a different program in the same bouquet e.g. record BBC1(entertainment), cannot watch the travel channel(lifestyle). I have both tuners connected and set to 28.2E . Any ideas?

Travel channel is on Transponder frequency 12551500 V, Many of the BBC Ones are on 10817500 V or 10802750 H. This will require the two tuners to have seperate feeds from the LNB to tune. If you have only one feed looped to both tuners than you can only record and watch different programs which use the same TP and Polarity. The Terrestrial tuner is seperate from this.

soberasajudge · 30-03-2015 11:01pm

deezell wrote: »

Travel channel is on Transponder frequency 12551500 V, Many of the BBC Ones are on 10817500 V or 10802750 H. This will require the two tuners to have seperate feeds from the LNB to tune. If you have only one feed looped to both tuners than you can only record and watch different programs which use the same TP and Polarity. The Terrestrial tuner is seperate from this.

No, have two separate feeds from the LNB, both set to 28.2E. Running FP's Hyp4.5 BTW, if that helps.

Fresh Pots · 30-03-2015 11:12pm

soberasajudge wrote: »

No, have two separate feeds from the LNB, both set to 28.2E. Running FP's Hyp4.5 BTW, if that helps.

In emu manager is ca1-cao thing set to disabled? It needs to be.

soberasajudge · 30-03-2015 11:19pm

Fresh Pots wrote: »

In emu manager is ca1-cao thing set to disabled? It needs to be.

Hi FP,
No, set to enabled, as per another forum where such things can be spoken about! I'll try that, cheers!

deezell · 30-03-2015 11:47pm

soberasajudge wrote: »

No, have two separate feeds from the LNB, both set to 28.2E. Running FP's Hyp4.5 BTW, if that helps.

Only thing I can think of is that the tuners are looped in services setup, so both are using a single feed, I know that the information pane on channel select shows abc for terrestrial/Sat1/Sat2, I assume record one watch another is achieved by automatically selecting the second tuner. You have to tell it if it has two feeds, otherwise it ignores the second one. you can test this by pulling out one or the other, check if it goes off both b and c or just one. I've only one at the moment till I run another cable, but i'll have a fiddle with the settings.

Nowso · 31-03-2015 4:55am

New Spark 1.2.75 released a couple of weeks ago only spotted it now

one of the fast scans for Canal Digital fixed

and nor flash memory update among whatever else so seems like worth loading for the nor flash update alone

Zardoz · 31-03-2015 2:12pm

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jayo26 · 31-03-2015 4:15pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Freetv.ie have 10% off all orders this week so the Alien 2 is now available for 134 euro and the Sab Unix HD Triple for 125 euro if anyone is interested .

Few days late for me just got few in post today ha.

Slevster · 31-03-2015 4:48pm

Was having some issues recently with h v4.5:
General Laggyness (even after cleaning disc, EPG.dat , timeshift etc)
Failure to come out of standby, requiring power toggle (only a few times)
Getting stuck on some processes (the dreaded dots)

Anyway, redid Hyperion v4.5 from scratch last night. and was pleasantly surprised to see that they have now included a fix for the audio . ie no need for the elf file mod. (once base image flashed, check the authentation through blue panel). Also event convertor working (now and next on info. However , needed to modify to work with the pli.hd.mod skin)

Their audio fix seems to have fixed the lag issue on channel change and the volume difference between audio formats. Cannot say about volume boost, as playing through an amp .

That's all.

FlexMcMurphy · 31-03-2015 6:22pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Freetv.ie have 10% off all orders this week...

They also have the Amiko A3 available for €200 incl VAT. It looks kinda cool but I don't know why anyone would buy it over the A2. It only has one satellite tuner and no terrestrial tuner. Any cool things it does you can also do on the A2 for €65 less. Only thing is you can put a SATA hard drive in it but then that would only be beneficial over a USB drive if you had more tuners and wanted to make multiple simultaneous HD recordings.

Anyone see the point in buying an Amiko Alien 3?

Flex

jayo26 · 31-03-2015 6:34pm

FlexMcMurphy wrote: »

They also have the Amiko A3 available for €200 incl VAT. It looks kinda cool but I don't know why anyone would buy it over the A2. It only has one satellite tuner and no terrestrial tuner. Any cool things it does you can also do on the A2 for €65 less. Only thing is you can put a SATA hard drive in it but then that would only be beneficial over a USB drive if you had more tuners and wanted to make multiple simultaneous HD recordings.

Anyone see the point in buying an Amiko Alien 3?

Flex

It runs android also so you have proper version of xbmc/kodi running on it also, haven't got my hands on one but id be same as you id rather have the a2 but I bet they will bring out a triple tuner version of it too.

Zardoz · 31-03-2015 8:08pm

Slevster wrote: »

Anyway, redid Hyperion v4.5 from scratch last night. and was pleasantly surprised to see that they have now included a fix for the audio . ie no need for the elf file mod. (once base image flashed, check the authentation through blue panel). Also event convertor working (now and next on info. However , needed to modify to work with the pli.hd.mod skin)

Yeah they released an update last week,wasnt really sure what it was for,did mention audio allright ,handy.
It didnt seem to modify the audio.elf file though.

Now and next on info has been working fine with the Pli skin since Hyperion 4 ,it doesnt need modding.

They also have the Amiko A3 available for €200 incl VAT. It looks kinda cool but I don't know why anyone would buy it over the A2. It only has one satellite tuner and no terrestrial tuner. Any cool things it does you can also do on the A2 for €65 less. Only thing is you can put a SATA hard drive in it but then that would only be beneficial over a USB drive if you had more tuners and wanted to make multiple simultaneous HD recordings.

I wouldnt touch it with a stick .It never sorted its firmware out and its grossly overpriced.

I got one of these recently ,a Wetek Play
https://wetek.com/
Basically an android box (same spec as MXII) with twin sat tuners built in.
It runs Android and Openelec and has excellent support,Oscam is fully working on it.
It has gone up to 129 euro from 109 but I managed to get it for 87 euro (they had a 20% discount ).

Have only used it for a few hours but its a very nice piece of kit.
The missus isnt happy though ,she wants to know why I have 6 receivers now

Slevster · 31-03-2015 8:20pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Yeah they released an update last week,wasnt really sure what it was for,did mention audio allright ,handy.
It didnt seem to modify the audio.elf file though.

Now and next on info has been working fine with the Pli skin since Hyperion 4 ,it doesnt need modding.

Havent dug in to it with regard how they fixed the audio.

I use the pli.HD.mod.marcino skin which needed the event converter mod for some reason . wasn't sure if it had been previously working on 4.5 as I usually just put the pyo in straight off. (Wasn't working on v4. The fix came about this this last year from one of the folks on sattvhelp, as far as I remember).

Zardoz · 31-03-2015 8:24pm

Slevster wrote: »

Havent dug in to it with regard how they fixed the audio.

I use the pli.HD.mod.marcino skin which needed the event converter mod for some reason . wasn't sure if it had been previously working on 4.5 as I usually just put the pyo in straight off. (Wasn't working on v4. The fix came about this this last year from one of the folks on sattvhelp, as far as I remember).

Ah right.
I use the PLi-HD skin ,not the mod.
I had to do the pyo switch before too but v4 sorted that issue for me ,I didnt need to swap the files.

Slevster · 31-03-2015 8:25pm

Zardoz wrote: »

I wouldnt touch it with a stick .It never sorted its firmware out and its grossly overpriced.

I got one of these recently ,a Wetek Play
https://wetek.com/
Basically an android box (same spec as MXII) with twin sat tuners built in.
It runs Android and Openelec and has excellent support,Oscam is fully working on it.
It has gone up to 129 euro from 109 but I managed to get it for 87 euro (they had a 20% discount ).

Have only used it for a few hours but its a very nice piece of kit.
The missus isnt happy though ,she wants to know why I have 6 receivers now

Looks very neat and tidy. Fast/responsive? ( the receiver that is, not the missus)

L'prof · 31-03-2015 9:05pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Yeah they released an update last week,wasnt really sure what it was for,did mention audio allright ,handy.
It didnt seem to modify the audio.elf file though.

Now and next on info has been working fine with the Pli skin since Hyperion 4 ,it doesnt need modding.

I wouldnt touch it with a stick .It never sorted its firmware out and its grossly overpriced.

I got one of these recently ,a Wetek Play
https://wetek.com/
Basically an android box (same spec as MXII) with twin sat tuners built in.
It runs Android and Openelec and has excellent support,Oscam is fully working on it.
It has gone up to 129 euro from 109 but I managed to get it for 87 euro (they had a 20% discount ).

Have only used it for a few hours but its a very nice piece of kit.
The missus isnt happy though ,she wants to know why I have 6 receivers now

If it runs XBMC I'm sold!

Zardoz · 31-03-2015 9:14pm

L'prof wrote: »

If it runs XBMC I'm sold!

It sure does .

Here is a short video of it in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6KIkzLsrQ

jayo26 · 31-03-2015 9:16pm

Zardoz wrote: »

It sure does .

Here is a short video of it in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6KIkzLsrQ

Is it normal sat lnb cable in the back or do you need adapter?

Zardoz · 31-03-2015 9:17pm

jayo26 wrote: »

Is it normal sat lnb cable in the back or do you need adapter?

Its 2 f connectors ,same as any other sat box.

jayo26 · 31-03-2015 9:21pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Its 2 f connectors ,same as any other sat box.

Looks good mate, kodi works well on it.

Imstuck · 31-03-2015 9:30pm

Jaysus Zardoz, that's the business!

How easy is the set up? For both sat & xmbc (which I don't know much about)!!!

banie01 · 31-03-2015 9:36pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Its 2 f connectors ,same as any other sat box.

This is very interesting.
I have been following the development of ebmc and it had seemed like it was going to be a vapour ware.
This looks like it has the potential to be a much more complete solution.
The wetek box you've linked has me seriously considering a purchase.
How is the diseqc compatibility?
Does xbmc handle all the viewing?
Epg and recording tasks and so on? I.e are channel changes and viewing handled within xbmc and if so, how does softcam integration work?
Is it only oscam?
Or does normal Sat viewing work as a standalone plug in via a separate app?
Sorry for all the questions Zardoz but it's my 1st time coming across this unit.

hadepsx · 31-03-2015 9:42pm

Looks the dogs bollOx. Does the money off code you used still work? Can u pm me it pretty please

Fresh Pots · 31-03-2015 10:00pm

Think we need a wetek thread!

STB. · 31-03-2015 10:25pm

Zardoz wrote: »

I got one of these recently ,a Wetek Play
https://wetek.com/
Basically an android box (same spec as MXII) with twin sat tuners built in.
It runs Android and Openelec and has excellent support,Oscam is fully working on it.
It has gone up to 129 euro from 109 but I managed to get it for 87 euro (they had a 20% discount ).

Have only used it for a few hours but its a very nice piece of kit.
The missus isnt happy though ,she wants to know why I have 6 receivers now

When they release one with a combo tuner formation I am buying one!

The ability to boot XBMC/Kodi via Linux from NAND and Micro SD and Android at NAND Flash is an excellent development.

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