Bus Eireann Sligo to Dublin Bus has no toilet on it!

Andy From Sligo · 15-12-2014 9:27pm #1

My lad who travels every now and again tells me that the Bus eireann route23 with a 4Hour journey from sligo to Dublin has no toilet on it! - just a 5 minute stop at Longford railway station - Absolute crazy! - I couldnt cross me legs all that time lol :eek:

clunked · 15-12-2014 10:05pm

Is it not a 3 and a half hour journey. If its such a problem why not take the train?

biomed32 · 15-12-2014 10:08pm

And the bus driver is happy enough to let you off the bus for a toilet break if you let him know

Andy From Sligo · 15-12-2014 10:34pm

biomed32 wrote: »

And the bus driver is happy enough to let you off the bus for a toilet break if you let him know

my lad is ok with it - but i wouldnt be not with my bladder lol , id have to be asking the driver to stop every 10 minutes lol - but how outdated is this? , i bet the bus driver loves this if he had to stop a lot of times on route for people who want a pee.

- I think i will stick to train, even knowing that the bus has no toilet on it puts me off straight away even if it is a lot cheaper than the train!

Victor · 16-12-2014 12:30am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

i bet the bus driver loves this if he had to stop a lot of times on route for people who want a pee.

My sarcasm detector may be broken. I can't imagine a driver enjoying this.

Many services have such arrangements and it is rarely a problem.

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 1:10am

and if you had a passenger with a weak bladder or bladder problem you would not anger the driver nor the other passengers keep having to stop the bus on its journey no?

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 1:13am

anyone know why the bus for such a long journey does not have a toilet onboard? - is it because it takes up too much room/seats? - is it because they dont want to clean it out? - i cant be the only person questioning this can I? - i just couldnt imagine other public transport (apart from Taxi lol) without a toilet on board for such a long trip...

PLL · 16-12-2014 1:18am

You get off in Longford and use the toilet in the station...

bluemartin · 16-12-2014 1:21am

Maybe it's an old bus they using for that route that doesnt have a toilet on board, most of the newer buses have toilets in them.

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 2:54am

PLL wrote: »

You get off in Longford and use the toilet in the station...

yep i said that at the start of the thread - if im on a train ive most probably had a wee at least once before longford, and a couple more before ive got to Dublin Connelly ....

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 2:55am

bluemartin wrote: »

Maybe it's an old bus they using for that route that doesnt have a toilet on board, most of the newer buses have toilets in them.

no, i think there pretty newish busses, think he said theres wi-fi onboard .... but no loo!

braddun · 16-12-2014 2:57am

bring large empty milk bottle

Sofiztikated · 16-12-2014 3:00am

I haven't seen a toilet on a bus in years!

Jimmy Garlic · 16-12-2014 3:00am

braddun wrote: »

bring large empty milk bottle

And a shower curtain.

afatbollix · 16-12-2014 3:03am

Who uses the toilet on a bus anyway. Might as well just sit in your own and other peoples sh it.

Take the train if you need the loo every 10 minutes.

Senna · 16-12-2014 3:06am

Christ how could anyone survive a 1.5-2hr trip without a toilet, the shear horror of it.

Sofiztikated · 16-12-2014 3:08am

Senna wrote: »

Christ how could anyone survive a 1.5-2hr trip without a toilet, the shear horror of it.

To be fair, if I come down with a kidney infection/UTI, I'm pissing every 20 minutes.

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 3:24am

just the thought of going on a 3hr+ trip on public transport without a bog on it ...... makes me wanna pee!

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 3:26am

braddun wrote: »

bring large empty milk bottle

have you seen the he-wee and she-wee in the chemists - saw one the other day lol, could use that i suppose

cdebru · 16-12-2014 3:40am

just to point out DB route 27 driver goes from Clarehall to Jobstown and back again 4 hour round trip, and no toilets still when they get to either terminus they can be driving for over 5 and half hours with no toilet facilities.

Cookie_Monster · 16-12-2014 4:18am

cdebru wrote: »

just to point out DB route 27 driver goes from Clarehall to Jobstown and back again 4 hour round trip, and no toilets still when they get to either terminus they can be driving for over 5 and half hours with no toilet facilities.

but DB drivers are allowed piss against the offside rear wheel

[maybe more suitable for the DB mythbuster thread]

cdebru · 16-12-2014 4:32am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

but DB drivers are allowed piss against the offside rear wheel

[maybe more suitable for the DB mythbuster thread]

harder for the women folk and not advisable for anyone to be in a housing estate with his bits out, a rule from a different age and time.

Crumbs868 · 16-12-2014 4:43am

how did the OP survive 5 years ago when toilets didn't exist on any irish bus service and journies were longer?

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corktina · 16-12-2014 9:34am

I've never yet used an aircraft loo (never mind a bus one) despite 10 hour flights, and I'm pretty old and decrepit , maybe you could regulate your intake? Three and a half hours sounds a piece of piss to me ( see what I did there?)

Beer Assistant · 16-12-2014 9:58am

We live on a small island no need for a toilet on a bus unless it's a touring coach. All you have to do is manage you're fluid intake pre and during journey.

Jem72 · 16-12-2014 10:27am

This is because there is no high-frequency effective private competition on the Sligo route. Bus Eireann put all the nice new buses on the routes with competition and rotate the older buses onto the Sligo run. For the same reason the train takes the same amount of time that it took in 1900.

gbob · 16-12-2014 10:52am

biomed32 wrote: »

And the bus driver is happy enough to let you off the bus for a toilet break if you let him know

And than we can start another thread about how bus eireann is always late, why oh why can't they keep to a timetable etc...

biomed32 · 16-12-2014 11:00am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

my lad is ok with it - but i wouldnt be not with my bladder lol , id have to be asking the driver to stop every 10 minutes lol - but how outdated is this? , i bet the bus driver loves this if he had to stop a lot of times on route for people who want a pee.

- I think i will stick to train, even knowing that the bus has no toilet on it puts me off straight away even if it is a lot cheaper than the train!

I'm sorry if you cant hold it for 1.5 hours or so between stops. The bus driver has set stop and wont be pulling over every 10 mins to go to the toilet or to let yourself go. Think about it this way if you were say driving that route, would you be pulling over at every 10 mins looking for a petrol station or B+B to take a wee?

LXFlyer · 16-12-2014 11:13am

Jem72 wrote: »

This is because there is no high-frequency effective private competition on the Sligo route. Bus Eireann put all the nice new buses on the routes with competition and rotate the older buses onto the Sligo run. For the same reason the train takes the same amount of time that it took in 1900.

I think that's a little unfair. It has nothing to do with competition or otherwise.

The track beyond Maynooth is a single track line with passing loops which causes issues as you increase the number of trains operating.

I doubt that in 1900 there were 7 trains a day in either direction on the route, plus 2 Longford commuter services.

Or perhaps you have a magic wand that can miraculously increase the line speed of the track?

L1011 · 16-12-2014 11:24am

corktina wrote: »

I've never yet used an aircraft loo (never mind a bus one) despite 10 hour flights, and I'm pretty old and decrepit , maybe you could regulate your intake? Three and a half hours sounds a piece of piss to me ( see what I did there?)

Aircraft aircon dehydrates you quite effectively via the skin (not particularly healthy method of water excretion mind!) which means that unless you're drinking alcohol you're not hugely likely to need to use the jacks.

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 1:50pm

Gretts_40oz wrote: »

We live on a small island no need for a toilet on a bus unless it's a touring coach. All you have to do is manage you're fluid intake pre and during journey.

i like to be well hydrated all the time, helps the skin and the body - especially as travelling de-hydrates you anyways...

schemingbohemia · 16-12-2014 2:03pm

What percentage of the population has as poor a "system" as you that requires you to need to pee every 2 hours OP? You have the option of the train to cope with your odd complaint, so use it. /thread.

biomed32 · 16-12-2014 2:09pm

I honestly think the OP is trolling...

Andy From Sligo · 16-12-2014 2:40pm

lxflyer wrote: »

I think that's a little unfair. It has nothing to do with competition or otherwise.

The track beyond Maynooth is a single track line with passing loops which causes issues as you increase the number of trains operating.

I doubt that in 1900 there were 7 trains a day in either direction on the route, plus 2 Longford commuter services.

Or perhaps you have a magic wand that can miraculously increase the line speed of the track?

blimey is it really single lane after maynooth to sligo? - I thought it started getting single line after edgworthstown...

I dont personally think Longford should be running a commuter service as well if its the case thats affecting the sligo to dublin train - we need a nice fast train service from Sligo to Dublin without having to wait for other trains on the line

gbob · 16-12-2014 9:20pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there should be no toilets on buses. There would be smoking, drinking, injecting, sex acts, not to mention offensive odours from legitimate toilet uses, and the fact that it's illegal to be out of your seat and not belted while the vehicle is in motion. So, we're going to have ensure toilets are only used while the bus is stopped? What if someone decides to use it while stopped at bus stop, the driver has to wait til it's vacant before pulling away? That's going to be interesting when the bus is double parked blocking whatever main street he has to stop at cause the authorities can't be arsed building proper bus stop bays.

Now add the additional turn around time at a depot because of cleaning and this is a **** up waiting to happen.

Btw, the NTA are now proposing all new coaches for longer distance journeys must have toilets on board. They don't specify what exactly longer distance is but there ya go.

GTE · 16-12-2014 9:38pm

I would be disappointed in myself if I had not sorted my bladder related fortitude before getting on a bus.
:mad::pac:

GTE · 16-12-2014 9:39pm

gbob wrote: »

Btw, the NTA are now proposing all new coaches for longer distance journeys must have toilets on board. They don't specify what exactly longer distance is but there ya go.

This would make sense on motorway only routes, but the use of "longer distance", if that is the exact wording, seems a little broad stroke.

gbob · 16-12-2014 10:07pm

bbk wrote: »

This would make sense on motorway only routes, but the use of "longer distance", if that is the exact wording, seems a little broad stroke.

http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Public-Consultation-on-2014-Bus-Public-Service-Contracts-V0-9-121025-Final-Updated.pdf

Goto Page 7

Mrs OBumble · 17-12-2014 12:19am

gbob wrote: »

There would be smoking, drinking, injecting, sex acts, not to mention offensive odours from legitimate toilet uses ...

Now add the additional turn around time at a depot because of cleaning and this is a **** up waiting to happen.

We've had toilets on the Galway / Dublin express buses for several years now, and I've not been aware of any acts like the ones you mention (not even when the FTP was accepted).

Neither does there seem to be any issue (pun intended!) with turn arounds.

gbob · 17-12-2014 12:39am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

We've had toilets on the Galway / Dublin express buses for several years now, and I've not been aware of any acts like the ones you mention (not even when the FTP was accepted).

Neither does there seem to be any issue (pun intended!) with turn arounds.

Maybe there's a better class of people on the galway/dublin buses, but I've witnessed all of the above on various other routes, including the ones where a toilet should be a prerequisite.

I just imagine it would be so much worse if those gob****es had a closed door to take advantage of.

I remember when the cross channel service had a toilet on board, and the disgusting mess left behind by the dirty f_ckers using it.

Andy From Sligo · 17-12-2014 3:01am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

We've had toilets on the Galway / Dublin express buses for several years now...

lucky buggers .... - whats the trip time from Galway to Dublin please?

Beer Assistant · 17-12-2014 9:30am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

lucky buggers .... - whats the trip time from Galway to Dublin please?

About 2 and a half hours. Not long enough to need a toilet on a coach.

n97 mini · 17-12-2014 9:38am

gbob wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there should be no toilets on buses. There would be smoking, drinking, injecting, sex acts, not to mention offensive odours from legitimate toilet uses,

By your logic trains, with their multiple toilets....

gbob · 17-12-2014 11:25am

n97 mini wrote: »

By your logic trains, with their multiple toilets....

I don't work on the trains, but 20 yrs driving buses is what shapes my opinion. Any train workers on here care to comment.......

schemingbohemia · 17-12-2014 11:31am

gbob wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there should be no toilets on buses. There would be smoking, drinking, injecting, sex acts, not to mention offensive odours from legitimate toilet uses, and the fact that it's illegal to be out of your seat and not belted while the vehicle is in motion. So, we're going to have ensure toilets are only used while the bus is stopped? What if someone decides to use it while stopped at bus stop, the driver has to wait til it's vacant before pulling away? That's going to be interesting when the bus is double parked blocking whatever main street he has to stop at cause the authorities can't be arsed building proper bus stop bays.

Now add the additional turn around time at a depot because of cleaning and this is a **** up waiting to happen.

Btw, the NTA are now proposing all new coaches for longer distance journeys must have toilets on board. They don't specify what exactly longer distance is but there ya go.

Maybe you should read that again, it's a summary of submissions made to the NTA, not NTA policy. Could even be the OPs submission!

Cool_CM · 17-12-2014 2:04pm

Whenever I've used the service the driver has always stopped for a toilet stop, either in Longford or sometimes Carrick on Shannon on the 11 o'clock service.

sonicstrav · 20-05-2015 10:48pm

I've got the 2300 service out from Dub to Sligo as far as Newtownforbes a couple of times. I've managed the 2.5 hour journey without needing a p*ss - but there's not even a scheduled break in Longford as the station is shut.

What are the arrangements for these late evening services if I did need a p*ss?

foggy_lad · 21-05-2015 9:23am

sonicstrav wrote: »

I've got the 2300 service out from Dub to Sligo as far as Newtownforbes a couple of times. I've managed the 2.5 hour journey without needing a p*ss - but there's not even a scheduled break in Longford as the station is shut.

What are the arrangements for these late evening services if I did need a p*ss?

Empty your bladder before you board the bus like most people are able to do.

5rtytry56 · 21-05-2015 10:12am

Bus Eireann is Public sector workforce after all OP.
Why not check out the private operator ( off the top of my head I don't know who they are).
If the private operator bus hasn't got lavatory facilities you should blast some piss at them. Good lad.;)

punisher5112 · 22-05-2015 9:34pm

I really think they should fit toilets to their newest fleet that they will be keeping for a long time.

Only their latest 20 will have which is nowhere near enough.

Suppose the other option as said would be see if private operator has one or use the train if possible instead.

Hungerford · 23-05-2015 11:49am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

My lad who travels every now and again tells me that the Bus eireann route23 with a 4Hour journey from sligo to Dublin has no toilet on it! - just a 5 minute stop at Longford railway station - Absolute crazy! - I couldnt cross me legs all that time lol :eek:

He should get the train - it takes three hours and has a toilet on board.

Bus Eireann Sligo to Dublin Bus has no toilet on it!

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