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Adverts Jobs

  • 31-01-2012 5:53pm
    #1
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭


    Hello all,

    Following on from the Announcement on the front page, I wanted a place for anyone to ask any questions about the ads appearing on Boards for Adverts Jobs.

    One of the important things is that if you are interested in a job, any submissions you make to Adverts Jobs will have come from them and will not tie into your Boards.ie account in any way - I'm sure most people would prefer to keep their personal account out of work and business!

    This is seperate to the Forums, so won't impact on them in any way except that you may see an ad for it.

    Please feel free to ask any further questions about it here.
    Post edited by Shield on


Comments

  • #2
    Spacedog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Spacedog


    Most ads i look at (IT), do not show salary details. This seems to be the culture for Irish Job ads, but it's something I find very offputting when I consider submitting an application. If an ad is upfront about all the details, experience required, education, skills, and salary. I can tell if I'm suited to the role and apply. If it's a copy paste listing a previous ad, with no salary, alarm bells go off and I'm gone.

    What is the privacy policy for Boards Jobs and the requirements of it's customers regarding passing on CVs/contact details submitter through Boards Jobs to 3rd parties, data retention period and so on.

    Is data shared between boards.ie, Boards Jobs, Adverts, Deft.ie etc. for any purpose, including targeted marketing etc.

    Boards Jobs can differentiate itself, by having a good minimum standard requirement for qulaity, informative, adverts, and by assuring the user of basic protections from abuse of information submitted through it.


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I think you should ban commission only jobs as point of principle.


  • #4
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    Spacedog wrote: »
    Is data shared between boards.ie, Boards Jobs, Adverts, Deft.ie etc. for any purpose, including targeted marketing etc

    It all goes through an adverts.ie endpoint on boards and on daft ends. the boards/daft jobs is a skin per sé.

    I agree with you about Irish employers omitting salary something that irks me as well when I was looking for jobs moons ago.


  • #5
    freeze4real
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    Nice work adverts.

    Just my 2 cents you are missing a section for those seeking internship as i am lol.

    But you might say there a place for graduates there but its different from internship.

    Nice work on getting the big multinational companies like paypal a few of them are really needed I'm sure you know them and your PR/sales team can get them.


  • #6
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Out of curiosity, how long has the Jobs section been up and running?

    Noticed there's over 1,500 jobs on offer at the moment, has it been around a while?


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  • #7
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, how long has the Jobs section been up and running?

    Noticed there's over 1,500 jobs on offer at the moment, has it been around a while?
    according the the adverts.ie blog http://blog.adverts.ie it was launched in or around (depending how fast they blog these things) on the 22nd of November 2011.


  • #8
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    General info / rules for users advertising jobs is here. Please report any rule breaches as you would on boards. All reports go back to adverts.ie mods (afaik) regardless of what site they are displayed on.

    I'll start a sticky on adverts support where you can post general questions or make suggestions for new categories etc.. :)

    Edit: Adverts.ie & boards.ie /jobs questions & suggestions


    Boards.ie: Neil wrote: »
    according the the adverts.ie blog http://blog.adverts.ie it was launched in or around (depending how fast they blog these things) on the 22nd of November 2011.
    Claire is pretty fast on the blog so I'd say that's accurate :)


  • #9
    meemeep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭meemeep


    I think it's brilliant - a great array of jobs - not quite what I'm looking for yet but a good starting point.


  • #10
    denballs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭denballs


    I am just wondering why.....you say so more people see the job listings but those looking for the site would find it through google if they did,nt already know about it.

    is it to benefit distilled media.....?
    or do you think this will help people find jobs ?

    i really dont see the point


  • #11
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    denballs wrote: »
    I am just wondering why.....you say so more people see the job listings but those looking for the site would find it through google if they did,nt already know about it.

    is it to benefit distilled media.....?
    or do you think this will help people find jobs ?

    i really dont see the point

    Well its already popped up 3 jobs I am going to send my CV in for that I was unaware of before seeing the Boards.ie skin search so I guess thats the point?


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  • #12
    deco_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭deco_b


    How many developers are they looking for?


  • #13
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    deco_b wrote: »
    How many developers are they looking for?
    Do you mean development jobs listed on adverts (which is what they are announcing here) or development jobs at Distilled Media which runs adverts?


  • #14
    deco_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭deco_b


    Sorry i meant development jobs at Distilled Media.


  • #15
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    deco_b wrote: »
    Sorry i meant development jobs at Distilled Media.
    http://www.adverts.ie/jobs/distilled-media/


  • #16
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I'm quite disappointed to see this "marketing" job being listed.

    http://advertsjobs.boards.ie/jobs/xr-marketing/no-experience-but-a-fast-learner-sales-starts/1359249?utm_source=boards-ie&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=ajs

    This is not marketing; it looks suspiciously like a door-to-door, commission only job. This thread in work/jobs has plenty of info on what these companies are like. I think listing jobs like this won't help the credibility of this new section.


  • #17
    Raphael
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    XR are indeed door to door, pure commision. I interviewed with them at one point. Disappointing to see it there - advertsjobs could be an amazing resource if it just didn't take those kind of ads that other jobs sites are buried in.


  • #18
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    +1 to the above posts.

    Door to door selling is one thing, when people are actually paid for it, but commission only jobs certainly shouldn't be advertised here, just look at Jobs.ie and such which are basically full of non-jobs because of these door to door gigs.


  • #19
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    Ad's being snipped. These "direct marketing" companies cause us an unbelievable amount of stress in the office because so many of them seem to make a habit of having vague ads and so the only place people can find information about them is somewhere like Boards where all they'll see is people saying what an awful experience they had with them.

    [edit]
    I forgot to add - thanks for letting us know it was there.


  • #20
    patwicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    I find the adverts.ie site very hard to look at as alot of space is taken up on both sides of the page and has put me off visiting the site.


  • #21
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    patwicklow wrote: »
    I find the adverts.ie site very hard to look at as alot of space is taken up on both sides of the page and has put me off visiting the site.
    If you're talking about the blue space-rocket jobs promotion thing on the page borders, I agree. We've been assured it'll be gone in two days. :)


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  • #22
    danger_mouse_tm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭danger_mouse_tm


    patwicklow wrote: »
    I find the adverts.ie site very hard to look at as alot of space is taken up on both sides of the page and has put me off visiting the site.

    I second that. I'm also a windows phone 7 user and browsing adverts on the phone browser has gotten very cumbersome with the blue background in place.


  • #23
    Adyx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Is it just me or does the location drop-down selection box on the left not work?

    Edit: None of the filters on the left work, am I missing something obvious? :o


  • #24
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Are you using any adblockers?


  • #25
    Adyx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I have AdBlock installed but it's disabled on Boards including the Adverts Jobs page. I do see all the ads on that page.


  • #26
    Adyx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Hmm this is only happening on advertsjobs.boards.ie/jobs
    If I go to adverts.ie/jobs it seems to work fine. I presume it's the same results from both and since there's only 18 jobs total in Waterford County it's not that big a problem for me anyway.


  • #27
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    That's a bug I'll flag it with the adverts guys when I get into the office.


  • #28
    denballs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭denballs


    Boards.ie: Neil wrote: »
    That's a bug I'll flag it with the adverts guys when I get into the office.

    Not really....if you can stop adblock affecting your site fair play to you


  • #29
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    denballs wrote: »
    Not really....if you can stop adblock affecting your site fair play to you

    denballs, if you have nothing constructive to contribute to this thread, then please don't.


  • #30
    patwicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    The site is back to normal with out all them ads in your face every were, good!


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  • #31
    denballs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭denballs


    I withdraw my previous negativity on the subject i like what you guys have done...the tab on the right though.....a few cool suggestions...

    1.Can you make it a live stream.
    2.Allow signed in users to set preferences to what type/location of jobs are displayed.
    3.turn it into an app for iphone/android


  • #32
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    1. it's streamed from adverts.ie itself, so what you see in that box is live.
    2. that's something to bring up in adverts support desk http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=646
    3. already there http://blog.adverts.ie/index.php/2012/02/24/new-adverts-ie-jobs-app-employer-jobs-straight-to-your-phone/


  • #33
    denballs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭denballs


    Boards.ie: Neil wrote: »
    1. it's streamed from adverts.ie itself, so what you see in that box is live.
    2. that's something to bring up in adverts support desk http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=646
    3. already there http://blog.adverts.ie/index.php/2012/02/24/new-adverts-ie-jobs-app-employer-jobs-straight-to-your-phone/

    1...cool...didnt seem to move while i watched though........

    2...im too lazy...

    3.....i mean a live .....feed....more like the fb app....a widget thats docked on the ...smartphones..(i suppose you,d call it}...desktop......maybe even one that could make a noise or email/text to your phone one,s that match all your criteria.


  • #34
    Boards.ie: Danny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Danny


    denballs wrote: »
    1...cool...didnt seem to move while i watched though........

    2...im too lazy...

    3.....i mean a live .....feed....more like the fb app....a widget thats docked on the ...smartphones..(i suppose you,d call it}...desktop......maybe even one that could make a noise or email/text to your phone one,s that match all your criteria.


    1. It doesn't stream. It will refresh the latest jobs when you reload the page.
    2. That's nice
    3. It's a feature suggestion for the Adverts.ie team to look at, but as per #2 you're probably too lazy :)

    Suffice to say, it's nothing to do us :)


  • #35
    denballs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭denballs


    Boards.ie: Danny wrote: »
    1. It doesn't stream. It will refresh the latest jobs when you reload the page.
    2. That's nice
    3. It's a feature suggestion for the Adverts.ie team to look at, but as per #2 you're probably too lazy :)

    Suffice to say, it's nothing to do us :)

    Never mind......foolish of me to expect my standards from boards/adverts....Ive already been told not to this week...lol


  • #36
    Boards.ie: Danny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Danny


    We're not failing to meet any "standard" here, we're failing to meet your "expectation", there's a clear difference and you've clearly got very high expectations.

    In any case, Adverts.ie is different to Boards.ie and your suggestions are best put to them, which you've already said you're too lazy to do.

    I'm.............finished..... playing....... with... trolls..


    ...

    ....................lol


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  • #37
    jaydoxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭jaydoxx


    This is more a suggestion than a complaint, but i would prefer a hospitality or culinary section as opposed to "chef jobs", just doesn't sit well to my eyes. Yes i know its very minor, but just wanted to let you know:)


  • #38
    talkinyite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    Hi, has anyone had any joy with using this?


  • #39
    Boards.ie: Danny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Danny


    talkinyite wrote: »
    Hi, has anyone had any joy with using this?

    It's a jobs section on Adverts.ie. It lists jobs and gives you the option to apply for them. It's currently online and appears to be working well. I'm not sure what you mean by "any joy with this?" - do you mean it's not working or?


  • #40
    talkinyite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    ah right no sorry it's just a few of the job list sites I've tried use seemed to actually be spam sites trying to get you to pay for this and that. Nevermind, cheers.


  • #41
    Boards.ie: Danny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Danny


    talkinyite wrote: »
    ah right no sorry it's just a few of the job list sites I've tried use seemed to actually be spam sites trying to get you to pay for this and that. Nevermind, cheers.

    Oh, no - you'll not find too many of those on Adverts.ie and if you do then report them; only legitimate "we'll pay you to work for us" jobs go up there :)


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  • #42
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    jaydoxx wrote: »
    This is more a suggestion than a complaint, but i would prefer a hospitality or culinary section as opposed to "chef jobs", just doesn't sit well to my eyes. Yes i know its very minor, but just wanted to let you know:)
    talkinyite wrote: »
    Hi, has anyone had any joy with using this?
    talkinyite wrote: »
    ah right no sorry it's just a few of the job list sites I've tried use seemed to actually be spam sites trying to get you to pay for this and that. Nevermind, cheers.

    The adverts.ie support forum is available for your viewing pleasure here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=646

    We'll do our best to answer any questions or suggestions you may have there. :)


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Is this legit? Looks like a commission only job.


  • #44
    TouchingVirus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is this legit? Looks like a commission only job.

    Is this not where these questions are meant to go? :)


  • #45
    kart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kart


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think you should ban commission only jobs as point of principle.

    I don't think they should be banned. But it should be advertised clearly that it has no basic salary. I see nothing wrong with it then.

    I find one of problems might be that none of the job websites including boards one here do not have a special section for Commision only jobs. that would help a bit maybe, as at least some of them would post their ads to where they are supposed to.

    few of these actually do say in ad its commision only. Then theres also ones with basic salary+commision. For the ones that also have basic i find it perfectly normal to keep them in jobs section.

    Theres lot of people who like these kinds of jobs, also people who want to take on either extra job or choose their worktime (thats what these jobs normally allow). So its handy for people who for one reason or another cant work normal times - home-with-kids-moms, students, etc. Or people who just want to try had in something like say sales jobs.


  • #46
    Erper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Erper


    since uve implemented those new ads and things to adverts, site itself take long time to load...
    try to optimize it somehow...


  • #47
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    a) Nice scrolling sidebar, I can has animated sig now? It would'nt be any less ugly that that.

    b) Hertz advertising for unpaid labour. Classy stuff lads.


  • #48
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    Bambi wrote: »
    a) Nice scrolling sidebar, I can has animated sig now? It would'nt be any less ugly that that.

    b) Hertz advertising for unpaid labour. Classy stuff lads.


    a) No!

    b)
    TouchingVirus wrote: »
    Is this not where these questions are meant to go? :)


  • #49
    Pdfile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think you should ban commission only jobs as point of principle.


    i thought that people like gordon got paid in food for every person that they banned ??

    also; i see no problem with the advert... though i would love to see how long pighead or similar would last in that given roles ( lets be honest... they'd be tempted to muck about ;) )


  • #50
    Elessar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,256 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I think you should force employers to list a salary for each job. Every single job I've seen on adverts jobs has Salary: On Application. I want to know if it is worth my while applying for a job - no point going through the process only to find out the job is paying significantly less than I'm currently on!

    If not that, then add a simple search criteria to the site which will enable us to search ONLY jobs that have a salary range listed?


  • #51
    Boards.ie: Neil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Boards.ie: Neil


    tell them yourself :pac: - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=646

    It can be annoying when searching for jobs if they have no salary, gives you no incentive to apply.

    but on the other hand it's understandable as they can't go advertising that sort of stuff around as it will piss off their workforce.


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