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morebabies · 15-09-2014 6:09pm

llambert wrote: »

Please morebabies tell this first timer that this usually sorts itself over the coming months.

I've one up on my 2 this evening. Invested in a slow cooker so while they were snoozing this morning I popped dinner in for today & tomorrow, first time making thai green curry, smells delicious with no effort! Have bottles made till 2pm tomorrow. Bottles washed & loaded in steriliser for morning. So even though I got no naps today I'm not stressed trying to contend with them & do all that plus I can sleep anytime tomorrow when they do.....well that's the plan anyway.

i am no expert, every baby is so different, i'm like a first time mom with each of them, but that's one thing they've all had in common, that unsettled evening time, but like i said, haven't a clue why, but i think it petered off around 12 weeks.

and look at you how organised you are, i've often wondered what it'slike to have twins, i don't think i could manage it tbh, all credit to you

Lucuma · 15-09-2014 7:16pm

Yeah llambert I'm full of admiration for you as well managing 2....I'm finding it tough going with just 1 I have to say :-/ Feeling a little bit trapped & panicky. If I get sleep I can cope but last night was a bad one :-(

emer_b · 15-09-2014 8:04pm

Lucuma I remember that feeling well, trapped and panicky. I felt like that for about 3/4 months with my first. I was always rushing and stressed out. This time I'm so much more relaxed because I know things will get better, in just a few short months. I genuinely thought I would never have a minute to myself again but you do regain your life and independence, sooner than you think.

My family called over yesterday, about 8 of them. Was lovely, they make the tea, clean up, play with my toddler. It's great to break the monotony! My sister had a captain Morgan and coke (my favourite), I had a sip and it was heaven! As soon as baby is sleeping a good stretch at night I'll allow myself one or two drinks, can't wait.

My husband is brilliant at cooking and looking after the toddler but not so much at the housework, just the bare minimum of tidying up. The dirt and dust around the place was really stressing me out so with visitors calling yesterday I finally got him to Hoover and clean (I hate to be nagging about it, he really is great). Then today I got a load of ironing done. It has actually lifted my mood so much. I was crying yesterday about a dirty bathroom, really gets me down when the house is dirty. I booked a cleaner today for the first time, just to call once a fortnight. Think it could actually save my sanity over next few months!

llambert · 16-09-2014 3:46am

I hope it does lessen around the 12 week mark, it would mean I'm half way there :-)

I know exactly how you're feeling Lucuma. At times especially during the week I find it can be very isolating. The big positive is that I've got to know loads more of my neighbours. I usually be in work all day and these ladies would normally be gone in with their kids by the time I get home. I try get out walking nearly everyday for an hour just to get out of the house. Every weekend no matter how wrecked I am I try do something. We either go to town or bring the dog for a nice long walk. I need it for my sanity. Do you get I out much??

I'm far from organised at times and the wheels can fall off spectacularly. I cry at least once a week when I beyond tired. I cope cos I know no different. Like emer-b I'm blessed with a hubby who does a lot. He gets home sorts out clothes, washes and makes bottles, cleans up after dinner. Takes the pressure off abit.

shortstuff! · 16-09-2014 1:38pm

Shays 3weeks today, time is flying! Breast feeding is going well, think we're going through a growth spurt, feeding a lot and sleeping very little. He falls asleep at the boob most of the time but wakes up once I put him down. Reckon he had a total of 2hours sleep during the day yesterday, thank god for all the batch cooking I prepared! Was up every hour last night until I put him in with us & not in his co sleeper, then managed 2 3hour blocks of sleep. Gone is the baby we couldn't keep awake in the hospital!

emer_b · 16-09-2014 2:46pm

shortstuff! wrote: »

Shays 3weeks today, time is flying! Breast feeding is going well, think we're going through a growth spurt, feeding a lot and sleeping very little. He falls asleep at the boob most of the time but wakes up once I put him down. Reckon he had a total of 2hours sleep during the day yesterday, thank god for all the batch cooking I prepared! Was up every hour last night until I put him in with us & not in his co sleeper, then managed 2 3hour blocks of sleep. Gone is the baby we couldn't keep awake in the hospital!

I could have written this myself, we're exactly the same at the moment!
Just went into town for a short while. She screamed all the way in, all the way around the shops and all the way home. Had to stop for lunch, even though I wasn't planning to, and feed her for a bit while trying to eat a salad with one hand!

shortstuff! · 16-09-2014 2:56pm

It must be normal so emer_b, thanks for that, so reassuring! Here's hoping is passes quickly for both of us;) Gonna risk going for a walk once he's finished this feed, been saying that since 11...

Kaylami · 16-09-2014 4:24pm

Well Evie is 7weeks this week and finally seems to have got herself a wee routine.

Last feed at 11 and sleeps until 6am. She doesn't sleep during the day from 1 to 6 then she's like a weasel from 6-10 then happy little monkey again.
She's far too busy watching the girls and cooing away.

Today was not a good day I woke up in the worst of form and then it came to a head and I roared at the oh for not pulling his weight around the house.
I'm just fed up he's great with the girls but the housework forget it. He sits in front of the TV all day watching replays of football matches.

So I let him have it. Now I feel better

llambert · 16-09-2014 5:12pm

Bad news for you Kaylami, champions league football back on tonight.......say your oh will do a burst now around the house and get brave later!!!

Great that you're getting such a great stretch at night with Evie, my 2 are still every 4 hours might stretch to 5 hours the very odd night.

They roared all afternoon yesterday so let them in the hope they'd sleep after the evening feed. It seemed to have worked for about 30 minutes but then Adam started, Cian joined in. Adam went back asleep but Cian roared like a train till 10. They're lucky they didnt end up out on the clothes line :-) Have them here kicking on the bed. Don't think they're too happy but afraid to have us on the sofa anymore with the wriggling.

Kaylami · 16-09-2014 10:46pm

Well that was short lived all right cleaned over and then lo and behold football again. You called it exactly right llambert!

You'll get there with the boys don't worry x

Lucuma · 17-09-2014 2:20pm

Those 4 hour stretches you speak of are what's tempting me to give up b'feeding llambert!
I'm only barely holding it together ....just sooooo tired :-(

emer_b · 17-09-2014 2:36pm

Lucuma wrote: »

Those 4 hour stretches you speak of are what's tempting me to give up b'feeding llambert!
I'm only barely holding it together ....just sooooo tired :-(

I know I've mentioned it here before bit have you tried lying down feeding with baby along side you in bed? It's working well for me at 3weeks. Depends on the latch though. Or make a pillow fort for yourself so can recline in bed, baby across your chest and nod off that way. Easier said than done I know. But breastfeeding is so frequent and time consuming for the first few weeks/months that finding a way to sleep while feeding is the only thing that keeps me going! Hang in there, you'll be do glad you did x

llambert · 17-09-2014 3:15pm

Don't let that sway you Lucuma. Some nights they feed every 4 hrs which is only a 3 hour break between. Plus mine are more than 4 weeks older. At your stage they were feeding every 3 hours.

I was sorry I didn't keep going with the bf till at least my milk came in to see if it was something I could have managed. Do what's best for your situation. Don't be a martyr if it's a struggle for you but baba might not sleep any better on the bottle.

Hope it gets easier soon whatever you decide.

Kaylami · 17-09-2014 7:59pm

Lucama is tough when it feels like every few mins but stick with it it does get easier!

I agree with emer try and find a position that means you can sleep or at least doze while feeding.

Evie likes lying down because she can look at me and we have great wee chats while she feeds but during the day I change it up so she "knows" that lyong down is her bedtime feed. She gets that at 11 and if she's not awake I've started to wake her and then I get a 6/7 hour stretch.

Kaylami · 18-09-2014 3:31pm

I'm going to kill my husband I've decided it's for the best.

If he whinnges at me for sex one more time. Don't get me wrong we've done it it was fine but when Evie is napping and I want to clean he follows me around the house pulling out of me.

I feel better now. That's not really a conversation to have with my mam....lol

Lucuma · 18-09-2014 4:05pm

emer_b wrote: »

Lucuma I remember that feeling well, trapped and panicky. I felt like that for about 3/4 months with my first. I was always rushing and stressed out. This time I'm so much more relaxed because I know things will get better, in just a few short months. I genuinely thought I would never have a minute to myself again but you do regain your life and independence, sooner than you think.

That is absolute music to my ears Emerb....at the moment I feel like I'm never going to have energy or time back for any kind of a normal life so it's good to hear that from someone that has been through it all before.

llambert wrote: »

I know exactly how you're feeling Lucuma. At times especially during the week I find it can be very isolating. The big positive is that I've got to know loads more of my neighbours. I usually be in work all day and these ladies would normally be gone in with their kids by the time I get home. I try get out walking nearly everyday for an hour just to get out of the house. Every weekend no matter how wrecked I am I try do something. We either go to town or bring the dog for a nice long walk. I need it for my sanity. Do you get I out much??

I'm far from organised at times and the wheels can fall off spectacularly. I cry at least once a week when I beyond tired. I cope cos I know no different. Like emer-b I'm blessed with a hubby who does a lot. He gets home sorts out clothes, washes and makes bottles, cleans up after dinner. Takes the pressure off abit.

Going for a walk isn't really an option with breastfed baby Llambert (please someone correct me if I'm wrong...) tried it once and she started crying after 10 mins, it's not like I can put her to the boob while walking along and push the buggy at the same time! There's no way of knowing when or if she'll wake so unfortunately I feel like I can't take advantage of this beautiful indian summer :-( By the time I can take her out for walks it'll probably be winter! I suppose at least with a bottle fed baby when they're just after a feed and winded and have fallen asleep, you can be sure they'll sleep for at least 2 hours so you can actually go for walks and stuff?

I do go out in the car almost every day though - actually I'd say every single day I run an errand or go somewhere. She falls into a deep sleep in the maxi cosi in the car and usually this lasts for at least a half an hour or an hour after I take her out of the car so I can go for lunch or go shopping etc (quick dashes round the shops mind!). Oh and as for crying once a week unfortunately I'm on a 'at least once daily' crying roster at the moment!

emer_b wrote: »

I know I've mentioned it here before bit have you tried lying down feeding with baby along side you in bed? It's working well for me at 3weeks. Depends on the latch though. Or make a pillow fort for yourself so can recline in bed, baby across your chest and nod off that way. Easier said than done I know. But breastfeeding is so frequent and time consuming for the first few weeks/months that finding a way to sleep while feeding is the only thing that keeps me going! Hang in there, you'll be do glad you did x

Yep all the feeds at night are in the lying down position. I swaddle her at night and once she nods off in the bed I move her to the moses basket. Sometimes it works and she sleeps for a stretch, sometimes it doesn't & I have to bring her back into bed for another feed :-/. I'm now so anxoious and sleep deprived though that last night even though she slept in the basket for a 3 hour stretch (!) after a 4am feed I lay awake for teh entire time !! And I'm absolutely exhausted like....but there was so many things going around my head I couldnt' sleep. Also she has taken to grunting in her sleep this can last for hours, I keep thinking with every grunt that she's on the verge of waking up so I can't sleep - argh! And this is with earplugs in, I can still hear the grunts! I suppose I'll get used to it eventually. I stayed in bed with her til noon today trying to make up for it, I thinkI must have snatched some sleep somewhere coz after a shower etc I'm actually feeling ok now. As for being glad I did...sometimes i wonder. My friend from school who got 600 points in her Leaving cert the year I did it (many moons ago!) and is really good at sports, really outgoing and bubbly, very successful etc and never had any health issues told me that she and all her siblings were formula fed - hmm!!

Lucuma · 18-09-2014 4:10pm

Kaylami wrote: »

I'm going to kill my husband I've decided it's for the best.

If he whinnges at me for sex one more time. Don't get me wrong we've done it it was fine but when Evie is napping and I want to clean he follows me around the house pulling out of me.

I feel better now. That's not really a conversation to have with my mam....lol

Sex??!?! That's laughable!! That won't be on the agenda for .....a while let's just say! I take it you didn't have stitches then Kaylami?

llambert · 18-09-2014 5:42pm

Lucuma I really don't have any advice for you regarding the bf. As far as I know it is suppose to settle down but that's not much use to you now when you're feeling the way you do. I find the buggy knocks my two out for the count once we get going but they're all different. Could you express and let someone else help with the feeds do you can catch up on some sleep??

If its any consolation mine are 7 wks and I feel like I'm turning a corner or maybe I'm just getting use to this extreme tiredness.

Kaylami you're gas. My hubby hasn't even suggested it. I'm still bleeding a little so that would definitely put me off. If I wasn't so tired I'd be worried about him not looking for it but all I am at the moment is grateful :-)

Kaylami · 18-09-2014 11:43pm

Lucama it does get easier i promise.
I know what you mean about being at their beck and call just in case they wake for a feed.

They do settle and you can anticipate when they need to be fed.

No stitches or tears here so I couldn't use that as an excuse!

shortstuff! · 19-09-2014 10:17am

Sorry to hear your finding it tough Lucuma, Maeve is so new, only 2weeks right? Things definitely get better! Shays 3weeks & even with his latest growth spurt it has gotten easier. I hear ya on the walks, we went to go yesterday & managed 50metres of screaming. Back home, another breast feed, nappy change & once settled tried again & managed a 4mile walk! With a section if I didn't go for a walk I'd feel so trapped to the house so for me I have to persevere with the tears... & sure if I have to feed at the side of the road so be it!! Does help to someone available to pick us up if needed but haven't needed it yet...

No sex here either, still bleeding & stitches havnt fully dissolved yet, last thing on our minds with the lack of sleep & a baby in the bed with us:)

Kaylami · 19-09-2014 9:13pm

Hope all you ladies are doing well!

Evie christening is on Sunday so going to stay with the in laws (oh joy)

But excitement I am going to the hairdressers tomorrow this is exciting and yes Evie will have to tag along just in case she needs a feed but omg the outside world!

shortstuff! · 20-09-2014 5:02pm

Enjoy the christening Kaylami:) I'd be super excited to get my hair done too, happy pampering!

llambert · 20-09-2014 6:57pm

Hope you have great day 2moro Kaylami and you're inlaws are good to you!!

Can't wait to get home and get my hair done. My best friend is a stylist so sorts me out. Hope Evie behaved in the hairdressers.

It was our anniversary yesterday, 5 years. Got best pressie. A full night sleep. Was convinced I'd still hear the boys but slept from 11 - 7.30 and didn't hear a peep!! Got up then & walked the dog in nearby woods. It was lovely to get out on my own.

Hope everyone is having a lovely wknd x

Lucuma · 20-09-2014 10:08pm

Happy anniversary llambert, a full night's sleep what an excellent pressie! Kaylami hope the christening goes well. Maeve's is going to be a political & logistical nightmare ....I don't even want to think about it!
Yeah if I couldn't drive I would definitely perservere with the walks to get out of the house

Cameoette · 20-09-2014 10:11pm

hope all you ladies are keeping well! loved catching up on your posts. I've been pretty poor at logging on lately so good to be back!

My baby had her 2 week check yesterday and all is well. She's feeding like a champ which is a relief as several midwives in the hospital reckoned because she was so massive she'd need topping up with formula but she's just being breastfed now the past week. She's just above her birthweight now and is in 3 month size clothes already! Mad.

Lucuma my little one grunts all night too. I'm beginning to think I am not winding her enough, once we stopped topping up with formula I kind of didn't worry about winding her too much but realising she still needs a little burp after each feed now. So will try that tonight.

Lol I cannot imagine sex ever happening again after episiotomy, forceps, piles! Please tell me I'll feel normal again in 4 weeks time, right?

I am dying to get my hair done, I would crack mirrors at the moment!

Kaylami · 21-09-2014 8:49pm

Well ladies we had a fantastic day Evie slept through the whole thing!

My hair is lovely really dark with red highlights think I'm having some sort of teenage rebellion! Evie was a brat in the hairdressers but just tucked her under the cape and let her feed.

Cameotte - glad your doing well and you will feel normal again at some stage it's like you just wake up one day and the pain is gone!

Lucama glad your both keeping well!

Llambert that sounds like heaven I am incredibly jealous and happy anniversary x

llambert · 22-09-2014 4:19am

Cameoette it's great your little one is getting on so well........or not so little!!

Glad you enjoyed Evie's special day and even better that she behaved so well. We booked the boys one this weekend but not till Nov 2nd.

Just had a 4am conversation with my hubby I didn't think I'd ever have. Told him to be careful in the morning when he lets out the dog cos there's a hedgehog in the middle of the garden. Its not the hedgehog's safely I'm worried about either. When I let the dog out he stood there and cried at it. He didn't even notice the cat on the wall. We must be the only dog owners who has a cat coming in to use our back garden as a toilet. Think we got a dud dog.........see I'd miss all this uf I didn't have these night feeds!!

Lucuma · 22-09-2014 3:39pm

Yeah my lo has one burp after each feed Cameoette.
My hubby was around for the weekend & he insisted on me sleeping in a separate room on Sat night while he did the night with her. I left him 2 bottles of expressed milk & 1 bottle of formula. I was off duty from 11pm til 7am. The novelty!! I still woke up loads though but it was nice to get a reminder of what my old normal life was like & could be like again in the future!
So far there's nothing about this that I enjoy or like, it feels like a massive test of endurance & stamina. I've been awake since 2:30am this morning though so that doesn't help! She slept this morn from 7ish til around 10am but I lay there awake despite having been awake most of the night :-( I've always had issues with sleep and suffered from insomnia....in the last few yrs I've gotten a handle on it -I can sleep as long as the conditions are just so: total darkness, silence, temperature ok, separate duvets and my husband has to go to bed the same time as me; if I know someone is going to be coming into the room I can't sleep. So eh...I'm not really cut out for this baby thing at all! Basically it's going to be sleepless torture til she's a few months old

llambert · 22-09-2014 3:53pm

Ah Lucuma God love you. You must be going demented with the tiredness. The only thing that gets me though is been able to sleep when they do. It must be terrible to not be able to do that. It was great that your hubby could do that. He'll have to do it more often cos there's no way you can continue like this long term.

I felt exactly how you do now. If you're like me you'll probably be a little confused by this. As we met on the ttc thread we went on a journey to get these little people. The reality is a real shocker. I felt really bad complaining about how hard motherhood is but then said to myself that just because I worked so hard to get them doesn't mean I can't complain about the hardship that goes with having them.

Even though I loved them to bits it's only now that I'm starting to enjoy them.

I promise that once Meave gets to 6 or 7 weeks you'll turn a corner. I'm only a month ahead of you but it really is getting easier with each week x x

Kaylami · 22-09-2014 4:12pm

I agree with llambert it does get easier after 6/7 weeks.

Plus of it was so terrible right the way through I would have stopped at 1!

Evie has her wee routine now but if anything disrupts that she is out of whack for that night ands the next day

fiona-f · 23-09-2014 2:42am

Hi ladies, sorry I have been off the radar for a while. Baby over 5 weeks now and to echo the others, it does get easier. I'm not sure exactly what is changing - we arr more used to him and can anticipate his needs better, he is older so can feed more in one go and sleep for longer, he is easier to burp, etc. It all adds up to make life a little more normal. As my husband says, just because we love him, doesn't mean we can't feel demented when sleep is interrupted again or when he cries and can't be soothed. I too had a hard journey to get to a successful pregnancy but that doesn't negate the normal human frustrations that life with a newborn brings.

I've had a pretty rough time of things myself, was re-hospitalised for a couple of days with complications which was horrid as baby could not visit due to infection risk. Thankfully I am on the mend now, but it will take a while. Feeding is now firmly established as combination of breast and bottle since my supply dropped while away from him and hasn't recovered. Sometimes I feel like I have all the frustrations of breast feeding plus all the hassles of washing bottles and sterilization, worst of both worlds, but when it comes down to it, I'm not prepared to either make the mega effort to move to exclusive breast feeding, or to go to formula altogether.

Surprisingly, the pain from my stitches has suddenly begun to burn again and feel very tight. No signs of infection and I have my six week check up in two days but I really thought I'd gotten over it.

Kaylami · 23-09-2014 9:02am

Fiona sorry to hear you have been unwell hope your on the mend now. Glad the wee man is doing good for you.

I think no matter how long you try for or what hurdles you have to overcome to have that longed for baby your still entitled to feel frustrated.

My own mum tried for 7 years had ivf and then ended up adopting me. She said there were times she just stood at the window while I screamed waiting on dad to come home from the night shift.

staticdoor71 · 23-09-2014 9:19am

We are having an utter nightmare with noah :-(

I'm on the verge of leaving him on a doorstep :-(

He goes through these bouts of ear piercing inconsolable roaring crying

For example yesterday went like this ....
Sunday night 11pm had a six oz bottle was 2 am before he shushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed and went to sleep. Up again for a feed at 4am. Slept till his next bottle at 9.30 am. Slept till his next bottle at 1 pm. Then went nuts again . He had 3 oz at 5pm. 4 oz at 8pm. And woke for next bottle at midnight...
then midnight to 4am he didn't stop. ..

We are both exhausted... This is every night.. He's asleep now. But daughter is up and ready for action.
you can nearly set your watch by him for his 2 bouts of roaring :-(

I've him on cow and gate comfort.. He's weeing and pooing and passing wind both ends. .

I just need to sleep :-(

To top it all off my youngest sister (21) was diagnosed with lymphoma 2 hrs before he was born and starts her chemo today... so my whole family have been so pre occupied. It's just been a really hard three weeks :-(

Rant over

fiona-f · 23-09-2014 12:40pm

staticdoor71 wrote: »

We are having an utter nightmare with noah :-(

I'm on the verge of leaving him on a doorstep :-(

He goes through these ibouts of ear piercing inconsolable roaring crying

For example yesterday went like this ....
Sunday night 11pm had a six oz bottle was 2 am before he shushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed and went to sleep. Up again for a feed at 4am. Slept till his next bottle at 9.30 am. Slept till his next bottle at 1 pm. Then went nuts again . He had 3 oz at 5pm. 4 oz at 8pm. And woke for next bottle at midnight...
then midnight to 4am he didn't stop. ..

We are both exhausted... This is every night.. He's asleep now. But daughter is up and ready for action.
you can nearly set your watch by him for his 2 bouts of roaring :-(

I've him on cow and gate comfort.. He's weeing and pooing and passing wind both ends. .

I just need to sleep :-(

To top it all off my youngest sister (21) was diagnosed with lymphoma 2 hrs before he was born and starts her chemo today... so my whole family have been so pre occupied. It's just been a really hard three weeks :-(

Rant over

Oh gosh, that's really tough on you, especially with the concern you have for your sister. One of my nephews was similar, just roared nonstop as a newborn. His parents managed to deal with it only by reassuring themselves that there was nothing actually wrong with him - hunger, temperature, nappy, injury... - and simply forced themselves to tune out. They took it in turns to be the person comforting him but just accepted that no matter what they did, he was likely still going to roar, so the goal was no longer to stop him crying and they felt less like they were 'failing' once they accepted that. I have no idea if that is an approach that might suit you but I know it helped them get through until he outgrew it. It is so tough though, I used to come home from an hour visit in their house stressed out myself. I really hope something works out for you.

fall · 23-09-2014 12:55pm

Ah static door massive hugs and luck to your sister. Hope your little man settles soon x

morebabies · 23-09-2014 1:41pm

so sorry to hear about your sister, please god all will be well staticdoor. It's not surprising you feel so drained, i'm sure you're emotionally and physically exhausted right now. Worrying about someone you love really drains your energy.

I wish I could say something to make you feel better but I do remember holding my 3rd baby when she was 6 weeks of age and going through a similar pattern of inconsolable roaring with me in tears saying to my husband "I can't do this anymore", it is very hard to bond with a crying baby when you're all the time exhausted and you have other demanding children wanting mommy time too. All my hubbie could say to me at the time was "Look, time will pass, you'll get through it"... not as good as Dr. Phil I know, but by 12 weeks of age the pointless roaring had almost stopped. You'll get there too. Sending well wishes your way, you have a lot on your plate.

Kaylami · 23-09-2014 3:54pm

Static so sorry to hear your having a rough time! Big hugs to you.

I have no advice sometimes babies just cry for the sake of crying its hard when the older children need your attention and you are just to exhausted to function.

I know you say he's passing wind but is there any chance it's colic? Maybe try infacol or one of the others just to see how he gets on?

I know I has to try several formulas before my 2 found one that agrees with them.

Lucuma · 23-09-2014 5:17pm

llambert wrote: »

Ah Lucuma God love you. You must be going demented with the tiredness. The only thing that gets me though is been able to sleep when they do. It must be terrible to not be able to do that. It was great that your hubby could do that. He'll have to do it more often cos there's no way you can continue like this long term.

I felt exactly how you do now. If you're like me you'll probably be a little confused by this. As we met on the ttc thread we went on a journey to get these little people. The reality is a real shocker. I felt really bad complaining about how hard motherhood is but then said to myself that just because I worked so hard to get them doesn't mean I can't complain about the hardship that goes with having them.

Even though I loved them to bits it's only now that I'm starting to enjoy them.

I promise that once Meave gets to 6 or 7 weeks you'll turn a corner. I'm only a month ahead of you but it really is getting easier with each week x x

Ah llambert, thank you so much for this post, it made me cry!
My hubby is working abroad, I decided in my wisdom that it would be better for me to be here at home with my Mam (and Dad...and brothers & sisters etc all living nearby) than to be over with him for these few months. Boy was that a mistake! He was never happy about the plan but I insisted on it...he was around last weekend and it was so fantastic, but so horrible since he's left :-( I think I'm going to have to move over there to where he is asap. He's back here again this weekend so we'll get the bits & pieces signed in the garda station on Sat & I'll go in and order a passport for her on Monday! It takes 10 working days apparently.

Llambert that's it exactly, after craving a baby so much and all the hard work we had to put in to get one, I now find myself occassionally wishing I could go back to my old life and would give anything to get my full night's sleep and my freedom back, then I feel so horribly guilty for feeling that way about our beautiful baby girl that we wanted so much! It's music to my ears to hear you all say it gets easier after a certain time period. I've been breastfeeding as well but I decided today that as it precludes my Mam from covering for me the odd night (which she has offered a few times) and it also makes it hard for hubby to do the same - he did it last Saturday and not doing the night feeds had a bad affect on my supply for 2 days afterwards :-( So given the extreme circumstances I think I'm going to switch to bottles for the night time feeds anyway.

Kaylami · 23-09-2014 6:23pm

Lucama please don't feel guilty no matter how much you want a baby nothing prepares you for when they arrive and. Your life is turned upside down.

I can only imagine what your going through with your husband being away you poor thing huge cuddles for you and you are doing a fantastic job with maeve x

llambert · 23-09-2014 8:08pm

Fiona-f I was really sore again 5 weeks after my section. It felt like it was more my muscles. It was sore to get out of bed if I was lying really flat. It lasted nearly a week but I'm grand again. God that was awful to end up back in hospital hope you're on the mend now x x

Static so sorry to hear about your sister. Awful news to get at anytime but in the middle of trying to cope with a new baby must be really tough on you. One of mine had that brain drilling crying. Even though he got up wind it was always difficult. I started him on infacol. Even though he doesn't get an more wind up than he did or is any easier, he's not cross in the evenings like he was.

Lucuma I know there are massive advantages to bf but don't not at the sake of your own health. You need to sleep!!! Do what's best for you and your situation. Think it's a great idea to move back to where the hubby is. Lovely to have family around but you're in this together so its good for him to see what you go through & help out. Plus sure he misses his two lovely ladies. Sorry I made you cry x x

Got my first post pregnancy period. Have eaten my weight in chocolate. The pains.....oh how did I forget.

staticdoor71 · 23-09-2014 9:19pm

You hit the nail on the head morebabies. Just said to other half that I really don't feel like I've bonded with my son and I could easily walk away.. then had a huge cry cuz that's an awful thing to say. But I just feel awful. I even referred to him as IT by accident in tesco earlier

I have been looking up colic and doing my research all last week. We had him on infacol with normal cow and gate.

Since Friday I've changed him to cow and gate comfort. Colic and constipation. Thicker formula. He's easier to wind. But it seems to be MAKING him constipated. So I dunno. I really don't.

I dunno what I'm doing wrong. He got so bad crying about twenty mins ago he wasn't breathing!!! Then less than five mins later he's out cold on my chest. I just can't work him out.

llambert · 23-09-2014 10:06pm

Static you're doing nothing wrong. Both of mine like 2 demons tonight. Neighbours must think I'm killing them. My 2 eyes are hanging out of my head with tiredness. Going to stuff 6oz into them now and pray they sleep........

fiona-f · 24-09-2014 4:59am

Ladies, just to say as well, it might be worth all of us taking a glance at some info on post natal depression and to be aware of when we should ask for help. So much of the signs of pnd are similar to the normal challenges and frustrations of sleep-deprived new motherhood but there is a difference and there is masses of help there if it is needed. Really hope none of us do but o just thought it worth saying. It's something I am keenly aware of as I high risk for developing it, but it can happen to anyone. Hope I havent offended anyone.

staticdoor71 · 24-09-2014 6:32am

He's just gone to sleep

Awake since midnight

Hubby sent me to bed at one. But he was crying so much I didn't sleep and got up and sent him to bed cuz he can sleep thru anything and someone needs to be able for daughter getting up at 8

Going to bring him to doc later. Make sure there's nothing medically wrong with either of us

llambert · 24-09-2014 7:31am

Thanks Fiona-f. My sister suffered from it after all her 3 so made myself aware. Though I'm no higher risk just cos she suffered.

Static poor you and poor Noah. Looking at the time you posted that must mean he was crying for nearly 6 hours??? I hope this is just a cross phase and it quickly passes x x

shortstuff! · 24-09-2014 9:10am

Oh static door my heart goes out to you & Noah, so hard to listen to a crying baby but for hours on end, would have anyone at breaking point. Hope your visit to the doc is helpful, it'd be so much easier if the little babies could tell us where it hurts

morebabies · 24-09-2014 12:31pm

Please let us know how you get on staticdoor

Kaylami · 24-09-2014 12:47pm

Staticdoor I'm sorry your having a hard time with the wee man at the minute. I hope the doctor can give you some answers.

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fiona-f · 24-09-2014 2:28pm

Oh static, you poor thing, that sounds so very difficult for all of you. I hope the visit to the doctor helps in some way. Would e.g. ear plugs help you get some snatches of sleep while your partner looks after Noah? Even a few hours will help you massively. Best wishes.

Lucuma · 24-09-2014 5:33pm

Just a question for bottle feeders - My lo falls asleep after every feed, is that the same with a bottle fed baby? All she pretty much does is sleeps and eats (she's 3 weeks old). Also I haven't a clue how to get a baby to sleep after a bottle.....with the breastfeeding I always feed in the lying down position in bed and she falls asleep, then I move her to the moses basket. How does it work with a bottle fed baby? Any tips welcome, thanks.

Due August 2014

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