World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor

Calhoun · 22-09-2014 12:27pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Oh boy did I get bored real quickly, i've tanked all the way through SoO in LFR. Now im trying to get into normal but no-one will take anyone below 550, and no one is running ToT in normal to help me out.

Mmmmmmmm stagnation.

We are more than likely less than a month away from patch 6.0, the stat squish ect.

Have you done flex? to get the 540 gear (can upgrade to 556).

What is your ilvl? if you are 528, you can probably run the first 4 bosses on normal.

killanena · 23-09-2014 10:46am

Thats exactly what destroyed the game for me, ilvl. People are so focused on how good your gear is compared to how good you actually are. At the release of ToT I started playing again and rolled a mage. Was in a pretty good raiding guild that cleared it by the time I was 90. (Took my time leveling) I asked to come along in a run, was refused because of my gear. But eventually got invited after a few weeks because their warlock had disappeared and I was just ilvl 490. I did more dps in 3 boss encounters then their main raiding group mage (He was frost specc'd I was fire) but he still got all the drops he needed and I was left with the left overs which brought me up to ilvl 510 or something. I asked to come along the next few following weeks. Same excuse as before. My ilvl was too low.. Just ended up quitting the game again.

Calhoun · 23-09-2014 11:53am

killanena wrote: »

Thats exactly what destroyed the game for me, ilvl. People are so focused on how good your gear is compared to how good you actually are. At the release of ToT I started playing again and rolled a mage. Was in a pretty good raiding guild that cleared it by the time I was 90. (Took my time leveling) I asked to come along in a run, was refused because of my gear. But eventually got invited after a few weeks because their warlock had disappeared and I was just ilvl 490. I did more dps in 3 boss encounters then their main raiding group mage (He was frost specc'd I was fire) but he still got all the drops he needed and I was left with the left overs which brought me up to ilvl 510 or something. I asked to come along the next few following weeks. Same excuse as before. My ilvl was too low.. Just ended up quitting the game again.

Well to be honest if they are letting a really crappy mage sit in the guild you were in the wrong guild but i am not sure if 3 bosses would be enough to judge properlly.

A raid leader is looking fora combination of skill, self commitment getting your own gear where possible and commitment to a raid team. All 3 need to be there and if it was a good raid team. Therefore the raid leader probably did the only thing he could do.

Why i say this is raid leaders need to invest, cultivate and reward commited raid members, there should be a set raid team and the raid members take priority in getting gear until they have content on farm. At that stage you can consider getting other people gear.

Where you a social in the guild or a raider? if a raider its a case of them definitely treating you badly. If a social they should have explained it better to you.

killanena · 23-09-2014 5:51pm

I was a trail raider that got to raid once for 3 bosses out of the 4 months I was a member. And I wasn't inactive, I was on most nights if not every night of the week. Talked to all the members on TS most days. Was a fairly respectable guild on the server. Members were nice and all just giving one of many examples I have of why ilvl shouldn't triumph skill.

Calhoun · 23-09-2014 8:17pm

Ah right well i mean ilvl is one of the tools a raid leader uses to squeeze people into the 10 spots. If you were a trial raider its understandable to an extent, as your competing with people who have shown their commitment. For every committed player there is a player who is in it for themselves and will get what they need and move on.

I agree with what your saying its just i am saying not all the game is like that and sometimes you have to move guilds to get what you want in the game.

Dcully · 29-09-2014 8:35pm

Where did people preorder WOD? official route or via online key sales?
Im thinking now might be a good time to preorder and get my last class to 90 with the free boost,warrior only class not @ 90.

Berns · 30-09-2014 3:37am

just did it through blizz account page here. Aint used the 90 boost as got all classes 90 on terenas...... that dead server

Kiith · 30-09-2014 9:36am

I was going to get it through a key site, but i kind of want the Dread Raven mount from the whatever it's called edition, so i might just get it on the Blizz store. Still not sure who i'll use my boost on. I've a lvl44 Priest who i might get to lvl60 before boosting, or i might just boost a Shaman to 90 and work on my professions before WoD.

MagicIRL · 30-09-2014 9:47am

Bought it standard on the Blizzard store. Still have my 90 unused. Planning to use it for my third alt in WoD sometime.

TechnoPool · 01-10-2014 8:03am

Ive every class at 90 now, but not left with the conundrum of what the feck to play

MagicIRL · 01-10-2014 2:58pm

This legendary quest will be the death of me. LFR spamming for ****ing Runestones now. Still 0/12.

Calhoun · 01-10-2014 6:30pm

lol your unlucky, especially with gaze of the black prince buff atm.

MagicIRL · 01-10-2014 6:56pm

Calhoun wrote: »

lol your unlucky, especially with gaze of the black prince buff atm.

Halls of Flesh and the other ToT done today, 1 rune stone. ONE. WITH THE BUFF. This Flex better make up for it

jabberwock · 01-10-2014 7:19pm

MagicIRL wrote: »

Halls of Flesh and the other ToT done today, 1 rune stone. ONE. WITH THE BUFF. This Flex better make up for it

You get one from there anyways. Buff or not.

Vicxas · 07-10-2014 11:25am

Ive given up on the legendary questline, no-one is around to kill that Horde commander is Kasarang. And my tank still needs 2000 Valor points..

Sake...

Calhoun · 07-10-2014 12:34pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Ive given up on the legendary questline, no-one is around to kill that Horde commander is Kasarang. And my tank still needs 2000 Valor points..

Sake...

Once 6.0 hits you will skip past the valor quest line.

Edit: missed that you said horde commander, if you want to ping me your real id i can help you kill him tonight.

MagicIRL · 07-10-2014 1:14pm

That's what you get for playing Alliance

- I would've gladly helped had it been Horde!

Kiith · 07-10-2014 1:49pm

Is there any point on getting gear at the moment, with WoD around the corner? Won't absolutely everything be replaced within 2 levels?

Calhoun · 07-10-2014 2:13pm

Kiith wrote: »

Is there any point on getting gear at the moment, with WoD around the corner? Won't absolutely everything be replaced within 2 levels?

True but if your a competionist you might want it as it's gone in wod

MagicIRL · 07-10-2014 4:15pm

Well... this hurts me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUme16r1mNA

jabberwock · 07-10-2014 5:41pm

Kiith wrote: »

Is there any point on getting gear at the moment, with WoD around the corner? Won't absolutely everything be replaced within 2 levels?

depends on the level of gear that you are at right now to be honest.
My main's gear should last me to level 97-99, give take some of the new stats coming in by I'm meant to be using Crit as the main secondary anyways.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13423478/warlords-of-draenor%E2%84%A2-alpha-patch-notes-06-13-2014-6-13-2014#secondary_attumenents

Starter quest rewards are going to be lower than normal (553) SoO gear according to Lore on US forums.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13087418960#9

Beta pre-made characters start with 500 ilvl atm with the first quest rewards from Tanaan Jungle @ 505 ish.

Calhoun · 07-10-2014 7:10pm

MagicIRL wrote: »

Well... this hurts me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUme16r1mNA

I dont like this guy, he doesnt like resto shamans. As someone who has mained a resto shaman for 4-5 years ill wait until the changes are in place before i make a decisions.

Dcully · 07-10-2014 8:45pm

Bit of an issue i thought id run by you guys.
Im going to preorder and get my 90 boost most likely hunter with the view to it possibly being my main for WOD [for a number of reasons]
All my horde toons are on one server with a nice 65k gold but only hunter in sight is a lowbie lvl 10.
On the other hand i have a 71 hunter on another server as alliance with very little gold.
Taking into account i would like to get the profession boost to 600 for lvl 60 characters.

Do i

A. lvl up the lowbie lvl 10 hunter on horde with access to 65k gold [leveling allover again which to me would be utterly painful to me]

or

B.Use the boost on the lvl 71 alliance hunter which would also benefit from the profession boost but would start off pretty poor but i quite fancy going alliance after years of horde.

I suppose im wondering if anyone knows if gold will be a big issue or how easy/hard will it be to obtain in WOD?

Kiith · 07-10-2014 8:50pm

If you have heirlooms, you'll get to lvl60 in absolutely no time. Levelling is insanely quick. I'm doing a Rogue at the moment, and i don't even get half way through a zone before moving on.

Dcully · 07-10-2014 9:00pm

Kiith wrote: »

If you have heirlooms, you'll get to lvl60 in absolutely no time. Levelling is insanely quick. I'm doing a Rogue at the moment, and i don't even get half way through a zone before moving on.

Yeah i have heirlooms but the thought of it is killing me lol.

Calhoun · 07-10-2014 9:00pm

Dcully wrote: »

Bit of an issue i thought id run by you guys.
Im going to preorder and get my 90 boost most likely hunter with the view to it possibly being my main for WOD [for a number of reasons]
All my horde toons are on one server with a nice 65k gold but only hunter in sight is a lowbie lvl 10.
On the other hand i have a 71 hunter on another server as alliance with very little gold.
Taking into account i would like to get the profession boost to 600 for lvl 60 characters.

Do i

A. lvl up the lowbie lvl 10 hunter on horde with access to 65k gold [leveling allover again which to me would be utterly painful to me]

or

B.Use the boost on the lvl 71 alliance hunter which would also benefit from the profession boost but would start off pretty poor but i quite fancy going alliance after years of horde.

I suppose im wondering if anyone knows if gold will be a big issue or how easy/hard will it be to obtain in WOD?

With the gold inflation coming as long as you are on an active realm you will be ok. 65K gold is not much and really isnt worth it if you want to try alliance.

I would go with the alliance.

Dcully · 07-10-2014 9:37pm

Calhoun wrote: »

With the gold inflation coming as long as you are on an active realm you will be ok. 65K gold is not much and really isnt worth it if you want to try alliance.

I would go with the alliance.

Considering my current realm Aggramar is dead and the hunters realm Kilrogg seems a lot busier im inclined to think the same.
Im considering just going with gathering proffs to make some guild early expansion.

Kiith · 08-10-2014 10:24am

I'm going to try and level two new characters to lvl85 (Priest and Shaman probably) before the expansion hits, and hope that they nerf the xp required to level from 85-90. It takes long enough when you're rested the whole way, and i don't fancy doing that again when not rested.

Is questing and completing dailies the best way to make steady gold at the moment? I've barely any on any of my characters, and wouldn't mind at least have a few thousand before WoD hits. I did get around 3-4k just from levelling to 85 on both my Paladin and Warlock, but spent it on heirlooms and the flying skills.

Calhoun · 08-10-2014 11:20am

Kiith wrote: »

I'm going to try and level two new characters to lvl85 (Priest and Shaman probably) before the expansion hits, and hope that they nerf the xp required to level from 85-90. It takes long enough when you're rested the whole way, and i don't fancy doing that again when not rested.

Is questing and completing dailies the best way to make steady gold at the moment? I've barely any on any of my characters, and wouldn't mind at least have a few thousand before WoD hits. I did get around 3-4k just from levelling to 85 on both my Paladin and Warlock, but spent it on heirlooms and the flying skills.

When was the last time you levelled to 90 ? Maybe it's just me but I don't see it as a chore at all anymore I believe it had been nerfed already as most time I ding 90 well before getting to the zone appropriate for 90.

You make a good bit on the way to 90, you make quite allot from dailies ect.

Kiith · 08-10-2014 12:13pm

Calhoun wrote: »

When was the last time you levelled to 90 ? Maybe it's just me but I don't see it as a chore at all anymore I believe it had been nerfed already as most time I ding 90 well before getting to the zone appropriate for 90.

You make a good bit on the way to 90, you make quite allot from dailies ect.

Just got my Warlock to 90 a few days ago, and my Paladin to 90 about 2 weeks ago. Wasn't crazy slow, but i was on rested the whole way. I know people said the XP requirements was nerfed before MoP, but maybe it's already happened. Was around 18 million xp from 89-90 iirc.

Yeah, apparently it was nerfed by 33% in 5.3, so i guess it's where it's going to stay. Ah well, it's not too bad, and i'll be on the Horde side the next time.

MagicIRL · 08-10-2014 3:47pm

Played UBRS on the beta with some guildies. Very enjoyable. Healing is a real pain as a Resto Shaman though. Feels like everything is so weak, and with all the moving around, Healing Rain and Chain heal are becoming less effective.

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 2:49am

6.0 next week, get all the stuff you need done completed by then or you wont be doing it again.

Kiith · 10-10-2014 10:09am

I've hit levelling fatigue, and just can't bring myself to get another character up from scratch right now, so i'll use my lvl90 boost this week. Spend the week getting whatever profession up to max, and earn some gold.

Just reading some of the changes in 6.0 for the first time, and there are some massive changes in there. Didn't realise they were reducing the damage across the board, as well as lowering enemy health. I like that though, as numbers were getting insane. Looks like Inscription is getting a massive nerf as well, with Major Glyphs being learnt automatically when levelling.

Tradeskill materials stacking to 200 is the thing i'm happiest about :P

ryanakabyitz · 10-10-2014 10:39am

prepatch is hitting soon. Dunno if i should re sub to play it

Kiith · 10-10-2014 11:07am

Also, you get multiple Garrisons? Sweet. I see myself spending a lot of time of these

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 11:28am

Kiith wrote: »

I've hit levelling fatigue, and just can't bring myself to get another character up from scratch right now, so i'll use my lvl90 boost this week. Spend the week getting whatever profession up to max, and earn some gold.

Just reading some of the changes in 6.0 for the first time, and there are some massive changes in there. Didn't realise they were reducing the damage across the board, as well as lowering enemy health. I like that though, as numbers were getting insane. Looks like Inscription is getting a massive nerf as well, with Major Glyphs being learnt automatically when levelling.

Tradeskill materials stacking to 200 is the thing i'm happiest about :P

Yah huge changes coming, the stat squish, inscription didnt get a nerf all professions have been rejigged, reforging is gone now.

The stat squish will not impact old school raiding as the old content has been brought in line to keep us just as powerful.

Healing and spell casting has been changed so you cant cast and move, allot of instant casts are going, however they have removed allot of crowd control.

Finally the changes i really like is the adaptive gear which changes depending on your spec ect (main pieces not weapons ect). Also adaptive for style of play, so if your pve doing pvp in open world you cant crush someone easily.

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 11:35am

Kiith wrote: »

Also, you get multiple Garrisons? Sweet. I see myself spending a lot of time of these

What do you mean by multiple, multiple by char or multiple by account?

Kiith · 10-10-2014 11:40am

Apparently, you get a garrison in each zone in Draenor. Each garrison then provides you with quests and buffs for that specific zone. So summon a Ogre bodyguard in one zone, or artillery strikes in the next, depending on what buildings you build in each zone.

Or is is you can build it in any zone, but only allowed one...hmm, let me check that. Wow Insider said multiple, but now i'm not so sure.

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 12:00pm

I was under the impression you put it in one place and built it from a small place to large.

Kiith · 10-10-2014 12:01pm

Yeah, multiple garrisons. Just read the main Blizzard preview that while your main fortress will be in Shadowmoon (Alliance) or Frostfire Ridge (Horde), you will build garrisons in Gorgrond, Talador, Nagrand and Spies of Arak.

Glebee · 10-10-2014 12:07pm

Tempted to resub.. No time for this at the moment.. Somebody stop me please.

Dcully · 10-10-2014 12:10pm

Leveling last few nights on my hunter ,lvl 42 now.
Once i hit 60 ill probably use my 90 boost on him,then ill only have warrior left to hit 90,oh and a pala which is 80.
Seems to be a lot of people leveling alts right now as im getting fast pop of LFG even as dps class.
People saying get stuff done before next weeks patch, id like to get some decent mounts.
Any tips on relatively easy ones to get between now and patch?

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 12:22pm

Kiith wrote: »

Yeah, multiple garrisons. Just read the main Blizzard preview that while your main fortress will be in Shadowmoon (Alliance) or Frostfire Ridge (Horde), you will build garrisons in Gorgrond, Talador, Nagrand and Spies of Arak.

Makes sense I plan on doing it all on my hunter, the gara tame looks brilliant.

I am rushing to chane profs to lw for the new mount

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 1:48pm

Dcully wrote: »

Leveling last few nights on my hunter ,lvl 42 now.
Once i hit 60 ill probably use my 90 boost on him,then ill only have warrior left to hit 90,oh and a pala which is 80.
Seems to be a lot of people leveling alts right now as im getting fast pop of LFG even as dps class.
People saying get stuff done before next weeks patch, id like to get some decent mounts.
Any tips on relatively easy ones to get between now and patch?

The thing you want done really is like of proving grounds, challenge modes and normal raiding.

Allot of the old school stuff bar UBRS and Razorfen are changing, there is a spectral boar in razorfen i would suggest hunters get before its gone.

People leveling alts could be leveling new mains due to how the changes have impacted their old class.

Mounts can take a bit of time but some doable ones, you can get the world spinner disc in a couple of hours, if you have a level 90 you can farm bones on the white bone raptor, if you play heartstone and havent got that mount you just need to win 3 games.

Anything in particular you like mount wise?

Kiith · 10-10-2014 1:58pm

There's no mounts that won't be available after 6.0 though, is there? Bar maybe some high end raiding ones?

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 3:08pm

Kiith wrote: »

There's no mounts that won't be available after 6.0 though, is there? Bar maybe some high end raiding ones?

Not that up am aware of at this time , only callout I have is heirlooms will be gone from Wednesday.

Dcully · 10-10-2014 8:22pm

Calhoun wrote: »

The thing you want done really is like of proving grounds, challenge modes and normal raiding.

Allot of the old school stuff bar UBRS and Razorfen are changing, there is a spectral bore in razorfen i would suggest hunters get before its gone.

People leveling alts could be leveling new mains due to how the changes have impacted their old class.

Mounts can take a bit of time but some doable ones, you can get the world spinner disc in a couple of hours, if you have a level 90 you can farm bones on the white bone raptor, if you play heartstone and havent got that mount you just need to win 3 games.

Anything in particular you like mount wise?

No particular mount, but all i have is the culling of strath flying dragon yoke and the panda flying dragon thing.
I think i have the flying disc one.
I must play heartstone to get that mount.

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 8:27pm

Dcully wrote: »

No particular mount, but all i have is the culling of strath flying dragon yoke and the panda flying dragon thing.
I think i have the flying disc one.
I must play heartstone to get that mount.

Im currently on 167 mounts, there is so much old mounts you can collect over the next expac, from argent tournament, to netherdrakes ect.

I generally pick one or two mount i want to do and tip away on the daily.

One of the better mounts from MOP is the fishing one, the water strider.

jabberwock · 10-10-2014 10:41pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Not that up am aware of at this time , only callout I have is heirlooms will be gone from Wednesday.

which? garrosh ones are getting removed until xpac release.

Calhoun · 10-10-2014 11:13pm

jabberwock wrote: »

which? garrosh ones are getting removed until xpac release.

No everything else, they are removing all the vendors for old heirloom gear and all the vendors for northrend badges.

So if you need anything buy it now.

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