FSA Qualifying League

OneColdHand · 02-09-2014 9:47am

IK09 wrote: »

Should be the top 6 go up, considering there are 65 people competing. Fair enough if there was only 20.
20 in prem, bottom 3 go down, 65 in FSA League, only 3 go up?

By the way, im coming 22nd so its not like im in 6th place and sore about not being in top 3.......yet

I'm guessing the problem is the league above. If there's only 20 in the league above us, then it's a bit harsh to relegate 6 of them (and you certainly can't turn around now, after the season has started, and them that it's not 3 going down any more, it's 6). I would more make the case for creating an additional league - top 20 to qualify. Of course that would be more work for CSF next year, so fully understandable that he wouldn't want to go down that route!

CSF · 02-09-2014 10:25am

OneColdHand wrote: »

I'm guessing the problem is the league above. If there's only 20 in the league above us, then it's a bit harsh to relegate 6 of them (and you certainly can't turn around now, after the season has started, and them that it's not 3 going down any more, it's 6). I would more make the case for creating an additional league - top 20 to qualify. Of course that would be more work for CSF next year, so fully understandable that he wouldn't want to go down that route!

Just the 3 will go up, unless there is attrition creating more places. No extra leagues.

Close enough to 100 posters here last year got the offer of a place in the FSA Football League (not everyone took the offer by the deadline). That is an extremely large amount of people being faciliated already.

As with any league pyramid, its alot more difficult to get into it than it is to be pushed out of it. But to me that is a good thing. We'll have 3 weak teams pushed out of the hierarchy next year, and they'll be replaced by 3 massively strong players.

Ziegler1988 · 13-09-2014 10:59pm

CSF wrote: »

In more upsetting news, my placeholder team which I haven't touched since this league was set up (and consisted entirely of players who had joined new clubs) are 20 points ahead of my actual team.

Great week for your team :pac:
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/984125/event-history/4/

LeaveitOff · 15-09-2014 11:17pm

CSF wrote: »

You haven't actually signed up I don't think?

42 teams entered so far (not including my placeholder)

Competition is fierce.

Only just saw this - i take it i can't join now? I'd be leading on 271pts as well

CSF · 16-09-2014 9:55am

LeaveitOff wrote: »

Only just saw this - i take it i can't join now? I'd be leading on 271pts as well

Nope you can't sorry

CSF · 16-09-2014 9:39pm

Finally got around to sorting out the signups, 7 lads removed for either not signing up in thread, not posting their team id, or posting the wrong team id (basically I did a thread search on the team ids and removed the ones that weren't there)

If you think I've made a mistake by removing you, post here and we can sort it. Please don't post here if you've made a mistake, after the amount of work I've had to do get it right, I'm not about to go accomodating people that have made it even harder.

I think that makes it 3 places that 57 people (not including my placeholder) are fighting for. Best of luck everyone!!!

OneColdHand · 17-09-2014 10:42am

CSF wrote: »

Finally got around to sorting out the signups, 7 lads removed for either not signing up in thread, not posting their team id, or posting the wrong team id (basically I did a thread search on the team ids and removed the ones that weren't there)

If you think I've made a mistake by removing you, post here and we can sort it. Please don't post here if you've made a mistake, after the amount of work I've had to do get it right, I'm not about to go accomodating people that have made it even harder.

I think that makes it 3 places that 57 people (not including my placeholder) are fighting for. Best of luck everyone!!!

Was wondering how I managed a green arrow despite a very average week!

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 17-09-2014 11:51am

CSF wrote: »

Finally got around to sorting out the signups, 7 lads removed for either not signing up in thread, not posting their team id, or posting the wrong team id (basically I did a thread search on the team ids and removed the ones that weren't there)

If you think I've made a mistake by removing you, post here and we can sort it. Please don't post here if you've made a mistake, after the amount of work I've had to do get it right, I'm not about to go accomodating people that have made it even harder.

I think that makes it 3 places that 57 people (not including my placeholder) are fighting for. Best of luck everyone!!!

Yeah you booted me from the league. I posted an incorrect player id, guess I'm out now so.

Posada · 17-09-2014 8:59pm

OneColdHand wrote: »

Was wondering how I managed a green arrow despite a very average week!

I don't think the league will reflect that teams have been booted out until the tables are updated again? I can still see 65 teams not 57.

beaver111 · 29-10-2014 7:30pm

its very tight in this league any body in contension

Ziegler1988 · 29-10-2014 7:40pm

I'm in 8th place, 17 points off an automatic promotion spot

beaver111 · 29-10-2014 8:10pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I'm in 8th place, 17 points off an automatic promotion spot

two many Southampton players

Ziegler1988 · 29-10-2014 8:39pm

beaver111 wrote: »

two many Southampton players

I wish I could pick more than three

CSF · 29-10-2014 8:43pm

Placeholder team has 52 more points than my actual team...

Arnold Tanzarian · 29-10-2014 8:47pm

CSF wrote: »

Placeholder team has 52 more points than my actual team...

How many teams get promoted actually??

CSF · 29-10-2014 8:53pm

Arnold Tanzarian wrote: »

How many teams get promoted actually??

3, but with attrition, and there's been some permabans handed out to FSA PL/FL members that may or may not still exist come next August, that may/probably will increase

hurlingman97 · 29-10-2014 9:54pm

sitting in the lofty heights of 33rd.:o

Bring on the rest of the season:p

beaver111 · 30-10-2014 9:21pm

If promoted what league do you go into near

beaver111 · 30-10-2014 9:22pm

Next year

F1ngers · 30-10-2014 9:35pm

League 2 - the bestest league. :P

beaver111 · 30-10-2014 9:38pm

Better stay first then

Scorpion Sting · 30-10-2014 10:56pm

EDIT: Nevermind

CSF · 31-10-2014 11:52am

League 2

CSF · 04-11-2014 11:36am

Standard is ridiculously high in this league, the 3 that go in this year have got to be favourites for immediate promotion to League 1 next year

AdMMM · 04-11-2014 11:47am

CSF · 04-11-2014 11:50am

AdMMM wrote: »

Some number crunching of the Qualifying League. League average is ridiculously high!

Statistics for the following league: FSA Qualifying League |

Teams Counted:| 50
Gameweek:| 10
League Standard:| 599.20
League Average This Gameweek:| 60.34
Teams still in cup:| n/a
Average Players Played Per Team:| 10.92
Transfer Data This Gameweek: |
Average Team Value:| 102.3m
Average Bank Value:| 0.9m
Teams with wildcard available:| 20.00%
Average transfers per person:| 1.06
Average point hits per person:| -0.56
Zero Transfers:| 26.00%
One Transfer:| 46.00%
Two Transfers:| 24.00%
Three Transfers:| 4.00%
Four Or More Transfers:| 0.00%

599 can't be the average surely?

AdMMM · 04-11-2014 11:53am

League Standard is the average of the Top 5 teams in the league, not the entire league. That's how FPL calculate their top leagues too.

Should be noted that this only includes the first 50 teams in the league (the first page). So we're not THAT good overall, but still pretty awesome!

CSF · 04-11-2014 11:55am

AdMMM wrote: »

League Standard is the average of the Top 5 teams in the league, not the entire league. That's how FPL calculate their top leagues too.

Should be noted that this only includes the first 50 teams in the league (the first page). So we're not THAT good overall, but still pretty awesome!

Ah I see, what was the overall average?

Ziegler1988 · 04-11-2014 11:55am

CSF wrote: »

599 can't be the average surely?

Maybe League Standard means something else? I'm in 4th place with 596 pts so definitely above average

AdMMM · 04-11-2014 12:46pm

CSF wrote: »

Ah I see, what was the overall average?

Just for you...

Qualifying League (All 58 teams)
League average for GW: 59.34
League average for Overall: 523.43

When you consider the GW average for the Top 10k was 62.8

Just a little chart to see how the average (plotted in red) is affected as we include more and more teams.

CSF · 04-11-2014 3:28pm

AdMMM wrote: »

Just for you...

Qualifying League (All 58 teams)
League average for GW: 59.34
League average for Overall: 523.43

When you consider the GW average for the Top 10k was 62.8

Just a little chart to see how the average (plotted in red) is affected as we include more and more teams.

All the more interesting when you consider I'm a Premier League competitor (who isn't currently in the relegation zone............for now) 19 points off the league average.

Mint Sauce · 04-11-2014 3:31pm

Can you be in the Qualifying League as well as FSA League 2?

Starting to fear for my league status.

:eek:

CSF · 04-11-2014 3:50pm

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Can you be in the Qualifying League as well as FSA League 2?

Starting to fear for my league status.

:eek:

You can.

Next year.

OneColdHand · 04-11-2014 4:39pm

CSF wrote: »

Standard is ridiculously high in this league, the 3 that go in this year have got to be favourites for immediate promotion to League 1 next year

I'm just glad that I've finally passed out your place holder team! I was behind it for quite a while!

Menas · 04-11-2014 5:20pm

Lets face it folks, FSA qualifying is where the real competition is. I will be proudly back here next year!

CSF · 04-11-2014 5:43pm

OneColdHand wrote: »

I'm just glad that I've finally passed out your place holder team! I was behind it for quite a while!

At least somebody has

AdMMM · 06-11-2014 2:42pm

CSF wrote: »

At least somebody has

Ahhhh don't tell me that I'm on the same points as your placeholder team that you haven't touched all year?!

CSF · 07-11-2014 1:19pm

AdMMM wrote: »

Ahhhh don't tell me that I'm on the same points as your placeholder team that you haven't touched all year?!

Hahaha it does appear that way, however I've even less points than it so it could be worse.

My placeholder team was based on a season team logic with only players who had joined new clubs allowed, alot of players have hit the ground running at their new clubs (Costa, Sanchez, Di Maria, Sigurdsson) so that is part of the reason for it doing so well.

OneColdHand · 10-11-2014 11:10am

Not sure if this has been covered previously in the thread, but I note that there is currently a tie for 3rd. Obviously it's pretty unlikely that it will be a tie come the end of the season but there are a lot of good manager in this league, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibilities. So to avoid any potential arguments, would it be worth coming up with a way of deciding a tie now?

Random suggestion: most 100+ point weeks in the year. If neither team has any, most 90+ weeks. And so on.

CSF · 10-11-2014 11:17am

OneColdHand wrote: »

Not sure if this has been covered previously in the thread, but I note that there is currently a tie for 3rd. Obviously it's pretty unlikely that it will be a tie come the end of the season but there are a lot of good manager in this league, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibilities. So to avoid any potential arguments, would it be worth coming up with a way of deciding a tie now?

Random suggestion: most 100+ point weeks in the year. If neither team has any, most 90+ weeks. And so on.

Well, the official rules say its least transfers made, so that will be the number 1 tiebreaker, but your point is a good one all the same, on the off chance that even that can't tiebreak 2 people, and the criteria that will be used in that unlikely scenario, is highest scoring GW, where that is a tie, it'll be 2nd highest, 3rd highest, and so on and so on.

Thanks for pointing that out.

OneColdHand · 10-11-2014 11:21am

CSF wrote: »

Well, the official rules say its least transfers made, so that will be the number 1 tiebreaker, but your point is a good one all the same, on the off chance that even that can't tiebreak 2 people, and the criteria that will be used in that unlikely scenario, is highest scoring GW, where that is a tie, it'll be 2nd highest, 3rd highest, and so on and so on.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Don't really care what the decider is, was just throwing out a suggestion - the least transfers is a good one too.

AdMMM · 10-11-2014 3:20pm

This is just a graph to show how the Average changes as include more and more teams. Obviously it's only going to be a downward curve, but I thought I'd also illustrate how some zombie teams can affect it.

AdMMM · 25-11-2014 4:40pm

Who's Mr Average? SubutteoMen a.k.a Denis Teeling with exactly 631 points!

Ziegler1988 · 25-11-2014 5:13pm

I'm still sitting in the promotion zone, but only 4 points clear now.

wreckless if true · 25-11-2014 6:46pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I'm still sitting in the promotion zone, but only 4 points clear now.

Are you the same guy who writes on football for the independant by any chance. I don't care but if you are I think your a legend

Ziegler1988 · 25-11-2014 7:26pm

wreckless if true wrote: »

Are you the same guy who writes on football for the independant by any chance. I don't care but if you are I think your a legend

Haha, that isn't me. I'm an Organic Chemist; wish I could get paid to watch football.

beaver111 · 25-11-2014 9:46pm

I'm the four points that's behind you , its shocking tight

Ziegler1988 · 27-12-2014 10:29am

I was checking the damage my 74 points did to leagues and this one was by far the worst. Next four behind me scored 92, 93, 85, and Cypher Sounds' incredible 116! I've still got a 70 point cushion in the promotion zone though.

Necronomicon · 27-12-2014 10:44am

I'm into 6th place now. Fair play to you, 1,132 is an amazing score.

Steven81 · 27-12-2014 10:45am

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I was checking the damage my 74 points did to leagues and this one was by far the worst. Next four behind me scored 92, 93, 85, and Cypher Sounds' incredible 116! I've still got a 70 point cushion in the promotion zone though.

Even with your 74 you are flying it, fair play and hope you keep it up.

FSA Qualifying League

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