2012 WWE Hall of fame

flahavaj · 11-01-2012 12:23am

No point getting worked up over who gets into the WWE HOF tbh. There are no selection criterie except convenience really.

flahavaj · 11-01-2012 12:27am

A Primal Nut wrote: »

WWE COO Triple H also announced via WWE's official website that Mexican legend Mil Mascaras will also be inducted into the Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April.

http://www1.skysports.com/other-sports/news/14203/7421787/Kane-s-hate-shows-no-bounds

He's Alberto Del Rio's father.

Uncle I thought.

briany · 11-01-2012 12:44am

The Baptist wrote: »

Apparently Savage made a pact not to accept a HOF induction unless his brother and dad were part of the ceremony as a whole family.

Seems a bit strange, considering they are hardly worthy.

By himself, Angelo has achieved as much as, if not more, than a number of past HoF inductees. I don't think he wrestled in the WWF but he's still Macho Man's father and he's still Lanny's (The Genius) father both of whom are well remembered WWF/E alumni, Macho in particular of course but Lanny was great too. Fair play to Macho Man wanting for his kin to go into the Hall of Fame and get the respect they deserve.

It's already a joke of a HoF, why continue to make it a joke by inducting random guys who were popular for a few years ahead of people who have done much, much more for the business?

It's not as if the WWE HoF is the most credible HoF fame going anyway as it's mostly for people who have given service to the WWE and then there's the politics of it. Letting people like Pete Rose and Drew Carey in (I don't care if it's the celebrity wing) doesn't do anything to change that.

Off the top of my head, they should induct :

Paul Heyman
Paul Bearer
Ravishing Rick Rude (posthumous)
Jake Roberts
Ken Shamrock
Cyndi Lauper

Doubt we'd ever see "Double J" Jeff Jarrett ever be inducted but if he does, I want it done by Tennessee Lee ("Ain't he greaaat?!!") along with a tearful Road Dogg being shown in attendence.

PTH2009 · 11-01-2012 1:30am

Undertaker will be inducted in 2013/2014 and id say Paul Bearer would induct him. Likewise Undertaker or Kane would induct Paul Bearer.

I would like to See Randy Savage,Bill Goldberg,Sting, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley inducted either this year or future years.

With the stables now being inducted what would be the likely hood of DX, The Hardy Boyz, The Dudleys, NWO, Hart Foundation (Most Likely to be inducted at some point) being inducted.

Will Chris Benoit be inducted because he was a member of The Four Horsemen ???

briany · 11-01-2012 3:09am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Undertaker will be inducted in 2013/2014 and id say Paul Bearer would induct him. Likewise Undertaker or Kane would induct Paul Bearer.

I would like to See Randy Savage,Bill Goldberg,Sting, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley inducted either this year or future years.

With the stables now being inducted what would be the likely hood of DX, The Hardy Boyz, The Dudleys, NWO, Hart Foundation (Most Likely to be inducted at some point) being inducted.

Will Chris Benoit be inducted because he was a member of The Four Horsemen ???

Wish there was a Hall of Fame trophy, then Paul Bearer could deliver it to the Undertaker in the classic pose.

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It wouldn't be a bad idea to induct the NWO because they were they catalyst for wrestling's biggest boom but, technically speaking, if they were to induct the NWO they would have to include everyone who's ever been in it so you'd have Horace Hogan, Stevie Ray, Konnan and, uh, Nick Patrick in there by association.

Benoit's double murder - suicide pretty nixes any chance of ever going in any capacity. He had a great career that was ultimately overshadowed by a sad, tragic weekend that we'll probably never know the entire story of but we know the horrible outcome.

Mr Trade In · 11-01-2012 3:53am

Anyone think they would induct the British Bull Dogs this year?

ciano316 · 11-01-2012 5:52am

A Primal Nut wrote: »

WWE COO Triple H also announced via WWE's official website that Mexican legend Mil Mascaras will also be inducted into the Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April.

http://www1.skysports.com/other-sports/news/14203/7421787/Kane-s-hate-shows-no-bounds

He's Alberto Del Rio's father.

Dos Caras is Alberto's father which is Mil Mascaras brother so he's Del Rio's uncle.

Lord TSC · 11-01-2012 12:41pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

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Will Chris Benoit be inducted because he was a member of The Four Horsemen ???

Benoit will never be inducted; they've wrote him out of WWE history for the most part, and they'd never risk the backlash from glorifying a murderer.

rovert · 11-01-2012 7:06pm

ciano316 wrote: »

Rumour that Yokozuna is the next inductee.

Mike Johnson confirmed it today

ciano316 · 11-01-2012 8:23pm

If groups are inducted it only includes the people the WWE mentions... So no Benoit, Sid, Mongo, Sting etc. inclusion in the Horsemen and if the NWO were ever inducted as a group it would only be Nash, Hall & Hogan.

Yokozuna is a deserving inductee, he was one of the best big men.

Carlos Colon is my next guess after Yoko.

Garseys · 11-01-2012 9:08pm

agree with Yokozuna being inducted 100%

Horsemen and Edge are the headline inductees so I don't really expect any other big names to be announced for this year.

sky88 · 12-01-2012 12:03pm

Didn't the rock say he wanted to induct yoko in the hall of fame I could be wrong

rovert · 12-01-2012 12:56pm

sky88 wrote: »

Didn't the rock say he wanted to induct yoko in the hall of fame I could be wrong

He did.

Yoko was VERY well liked and respected. If he was handcuffed by adhere to kayfabe and his gimmick I say Undertaker would do it in a heart beat.

Cactus Colm · 12-01-2012 2:03pm

I think he's related to the Rock as well....

jaykhunter · 12-01-2012 2:15pm

It would've made FAR more sense to have Edge get inducted the next time they're in Canada for Mania. Not in the Rock's home town. Maybe Faarooq (who played for Florida State) would've been a more appropriate choice. Although WWE needs a "big" name for the HoF for ratings. My guess is that whoever they had lined up declined; Warrior or Honky maybe.

Macho Man would be a great posthumous inductee. Great time to do it as well. I wonder who'd induct him, maybe his wife, I'd choose Hogan but he can't (well, shouldn't) while he's in TNA

jaykhunter · 12-01-2012 2:16pm

Cactus Colm wrote: »

I think he's related to the Rock as well....

No way, he's Japanese and Rock is Samoan :pac::pac::pac:

CMpunked · 13-01-2012 12:23am

Cactus Colm wrote: »

I think he's related to the Rock as well....

GTR63 · 13-01-2012 12:32am

CMpunked wrote: »

Don't remember Fry saying that, i'm with Cactus Colm I think they are related.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-01-2012 12:44am

They were cousins. Yoko was of Samoan heritage and part of the famous Anoa'i wrestling family.

flahavaj · 13-01-2012 12:45am

Cousins I think.

CMpunked · 13-01-2012 12:46am

GTR63 wrote: »

Don't remember Fry saying that, i'm with Cactus Colm I think they are related.

If he did that would be some coincidence! It was just the face i was pulling when i read it.

briany · 13-01-2012 3:52am

I respect Yokozuna (R.I.P) but I don't particularly agree with his induction. His size hampered his in ring ability and his speed making his matches, particularly with the likes of the Undertaker, less than stellar. I never really bought into him as a monster heel and I always thought that his run was due to the transitory phase the WWF found themselves in at the time. That's just my take, though.

If Yokozuna can get in, then what about the likes of Bob Backlund and Sid Justice?

Sirsok · 13-01-2012 5:15am

briany wrote: »

I respect Yokozuna (R.I.P) but I don't particularly agree with his induction. His size hampered his in ring ability and his speed making his matches, particularly with the likes of the Undertaker, less than stellar. I never really bought into him as a monster heel and I always thought that his run was due to the transitory phase the WWF found themselves in at the time. That's just my take, though.

If Yokozuna can get in, then what about the likes of Bob Backlund and Sid Justice?

Yoko was in his prime a pretty fast guy, I was shocked by how quick he could move, in his latter years he was slow yes but for years I thought he should of been inductedà can't headline two manias and not get in! .....well maybe a exception for sid....howevev I wouldn't say anything is wrong with a possible sid induction....he was class around mania 8

Backlund should all ready be in....

rovert · 13-01-2012 7:26am

briany wrote: »

I respect Yokozuna (R.I.P) but I don't particularly agree with his induction. His size hampered his in ring ability and his speed making his matches, particularly with the likes of the Undertaker, less than stellar. I never really bought into him as a monster heel and I always thought that his run was due to the transitory phase the WWF found themselves in at the time. That's just my take, though.

If Yokozuna can get in, then what about the likes of Bob Backlund and Sid Justice?

The penny hasnt dropped that the Hall of Fame isnt based on who deserves to go in or based on merit yet? People from Koko B. Ware to Vince's Limo driver are in. It is a marketing exercise to sell tickets for the event, some merchandise and to market archive footage of inductees.

Going kayfabe Yokozuna was one of the longest reigning heel champs ever.

Sirsok wrote: »

Backlund should all ready be in....

He's been asked

Furious-Red · 13-01-2012 1:14pm

Ric Flair told fans during an autograph appearance Thursday at a Walmart in Burlington, North Carolina that he will be “on stage” for WWE’s Hall of Fame induction ceremony WrestleMania weekend (March 31, 2012). Flair, who is under contract to TNA Wrestling, was advertised by WWE this week as one of the Four Horsemen to be inducted at the ceremony.

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wwe/wwe-news/ric-flair-says-hell-be-at-wwes-hall-of-fame/

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-01-2012 1:30pm

I say Flair will make his way back to being a full time WWE employee again. With the new network getting ready to launch there will plenty of non wrestling roles for him to get his teeth stuck into. I'd love to see him in this Legends House thing, Fill him up with booze and let him off, it could make for classic viewing.:D

CMpunked · 13-01-2012 1:45pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I say Flair will make his way back to being a full time WWE employee again. With the new network getting ready to launch there will plenty of non wrestling roles for him to get his teeth stuck into. I'd love to see him in this Legends House thing, Fill him up with booze and let him off, it could make for classic viewing.:D

The part in bold is the most important bit. He shouldnt be inside a wwe ring again.

briany · 13-01-2012 4:07pm

rovert wrote: »

The penny hasnt dropped that the Hall of Fame isnt based on who deserves to go in or based on merit yet? People from Koko B. Ware to Vince's Limo driver are in. It is a marketing exercise to sell tickets for the event, some merchandise and to market archive footage of inductees.

It's not that I don't realize the WWE HoF isn't exactly the most credible in how they choose their inductees but to bloat the thing unnecessarily will not do it any favors either. Kayfabe/Politics aside, a glut of unworthy or premature inductees degrades the prestige of a place in the HoF which certainly won't help the marketability of it's inductees or the event itself.

That said, if they do continue to go that way, a good idea for the WWE HoF might be to include a fan wing, where ordinary super fans, people who have achieved a certain amount of notoriety throughout the years for whatever reason showing up at live events, could go like Straw Hat Man/ Faith No More Guy from ECW (I don't know if they'd accept, though). Now these people wouldn't be inducted at the event or anything but they could publicize it anyway and make a bit of a deal out of it as to how they include and reach out to the fans

rovert · 13-01-2012 4:18pm

briany wrote: »

It's not that I don't realize the WWE HoF isn't exactly the most credible in how they choose their inductees but to bloat the thing unnecessarily will not do it any favors either. Kayfabe/Politics aside, a glut of unworthy or premature inductees degrades the prestige of a place in the HoF which certainly won't help the marketability of it's inductees or the event itself.

This isnt one of those how long have you been fan posts but I dont think you are giving Yokozuna enough credit he was WWF's guy on the heel side for period of time that meant a lot to people who stuck on post the Hulkamania boom and pre the Attitude Era. He was in no way as big as a star as Bret but he still kept the ship above water simply he isnt an out and out chump or unworthy. I maybe putting words in your mouth with that last sentence.

Him and the Undertaker did relatively roaring live event/house show business often out drawing the other live event/house show headlined by Bret Hart & the World title. He was a big deal for the time.

thebostoncrab · 13-01-2012 4:27pm

People giving out about Yoko getting a spot is a hue surprise to me! Wrestling isn't about workrate alone, and he was still a great big man and an even better heel! As a kid I always always in awe of Yoko and he really set a standard for what a monster heel is supposed to be.

As Rovert said, his stuff with 'Taker was great and was before 'Taker had even hit his peak.

Angron · 13-01-2012 4:32pm

briany wrote: »

That said, if they do continue to go that way, a good idea for the WWE HoF might be to include a fan wing, where ordinary super fans, people who have achieved a certain amount of notoriety throughout the years for whatever reason showing up at live events, could go like Straw Hat Man/ Faith No More Guy from ECW (I don't know if they'd accept, though). Now these people wouldn't be inducted at the event or anything but they could publicize it anyway and make a bit of a deal out of it as to how they include and reach out to the fans

Sign guy would be perfect for that!

A Primal Nut · 13-01-2012 5:00pm

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Wrestling isn't about workrate alone.

I agree with this. There seems to be a consensus on the internet among smarks that pro wrestling should be purely about how many moves someone can do in the ring. I have more respect for wrestlers based on what moves they can be on the receiving end of rather than which moves they can do. Then there is entertainment value, look and most importantly of all the psychology of their in-ring matches (tension, etc).

gnfnrhead · 13-01-2012 7:38pm

I remember watching Yoko as a kid and being absolutly terrified of him

the groutch · 13-01-2012 7:54pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I remember watching Yoko as a kid and being absolutly terrified of him

not as terrified as the guy who did his laundry

rovert · 13-01-2012 8:01pm

the groutch wrote: »

not as terrified as the guy who does his laundry

Will you STOP

ciano316 · 13-01-2012 9:03pm

Yoko is a deserving inductee. He had a longer career than people think, he started in AWA and then went to the WWF. He's a former WWF Champion and for a big guy he was excellent.

He's the rocks cousin so it be good to see him induct him. In the long run The Rock could do a lot of inducting, that family is quite large.

A Primal Nut · 13-01-2012 9:38pm

ciano316 wrote: »

Yoko is a deserving inductee. He had a longer career than people think, he started in AWA and then went to the WWF. He's a former WWF Champion and for a big guy he was excellent.

He's the rocks cousin so it be good to see him induct him. In the long run The Rock could do a lot of inducting, that family is quite large.

From Yokozuna's Wikipedia:

Anoa'i (referring to Yokozuna) was a member of the famous Anoa'i family: The Rock, Rikishi, Samu, Rosey, Manu and Umaga were among his cousins, and Afa and Sika were his uncles.

They give the Harts a run for their money anyway.

On second thoughts that could be an idea for a PPV: Family Wars!!

Charisteas · 13-01-2012 9:39pm

Agreed, Yokozuna is most definitely a deserving inductee. Long overdue though, I would have liked to have seen him inducted the same year as Mr Fuji.

And all this talk about Yokozuna has got me anxious to dig out the 93 Rumble this weekend, haven't watched this in donkeys years.

Ah the theme to send shivers down my back when I was a kid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_RqD7uSw0

Bounty Hunter · 14-01-2012 5:54am

I remember thinking Yokozuna and E.Honda from street fighter were the same person when I was a kid. :pac:

Mr Trade In · 14-01-2012 3:08pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I say Flair will make his way back to being a full time WWE employee again. With the new network getting ready to launch there will plenty of non wrestling roles for him to get his teeth stuck into. I'd love to see him in this Legends House thing, Fill him up with booze and let him off, it could make for classic viewing.:D

I could see a scene like Full Metal Jacket in the barracks where Private Pile gets bashed with the soap in socks by his bunkmates.

GTR63 · 14-01-2012 5:06pm

Mr Trade In wrote: »

I could see a scene like Full Metal Jacket in the barracks where Private Pile gets bashed with the soap in socks by his bunkmates.

If its Flair taking the beating someone will have to throw him off the bunk and he'll have to blade too.

MAJR · 14-01-2012 10:57pm

Mr Trade In wrote: »

Anyone think they would induct the British Bull Dogs this year?

Never happen.

Dynamite - while being worthy of it on his own merits - will only get inducted as part of the Bulldog's and he's still bitter towards both the WWE for not supporting him against the Rougeaus and Davey Boy for going behind his back to trademark the Bulldog name and return to the WWE.

And Davey Boy's widow and son are bitter towards the WWE for not returning all the Hart Family memorabillia they loaned to the company - which included ring gear of both Davey Boy and Owen Hart - smashing the framed drawing of Davey Boy they did send back and giving them a photograph of Mae Young in a poorly thought out attempt to mollify them.

DeadParrot · 16-01-2012 8:37pm

I'd love to see Dynamite in the HOF tbh

gerrybbadd · 16-01-2012 11:34pm

I wonder what the odds of Lex Luger soon going in?

I know there was talk of him going in last year, with Mania being in Atlanta and all.

One of the crazier predictions I've seen online (forget the site) is that Vince wants to induct Ted Turner into the HOF;)

briany · 16-01-2012 11:45pm

DeadParrot wrote: »

I'd love to see Dynamite in the HOF tbh

The reported animosity, at least on his part, between him and the WWE means that probably won't ever happen.

Speaking of wrestlers whose legacies within the organization have been over shadowed by those of more successful former tag mates, what about Marty Janetty? He's a former IC champ, a former tag champ as one half of the Rockers and he's had various small runs with the WWE since then where he's well received so I'd imagine he's on decent terms with them?

rovert · 17-01-2012 12:05am

Dynamite Kid doesnt want to be seen publicly for the most part due to his physical condition which has got even worse since 2007 . He is pretty much agoraphobic now too.

CMpunked · 17-01-2012 12:17am

Any ideas if anyone is being announced tonight?

gnfnrhead · 17-01-2012 1:43am

briany wrote: »

The reported animosity, at least on his part, between him and the WWE means that probably won't ever happen.

Speaking of wrestlers whose legacies within the organization have been over shadowed by those of more successful former tag mates, what about Marty Janetty? He's a former IC champ, a former tag champ as one half of the Rockers and he's had various small runs with the WWE since then where he's well received so I'd imagine he's on decent terms with them?

I could see him being a filler in the next few years, you know the guy who nobody really cares about but gets in anyway.

jaykhunter · 17-01-2012 2:18am

rovert wrote: »

Dynamite Kid doesnt want to be seen publicly for the most part due to his physical condition which has got even worse since 2007 . He is pretty much agoraphobic now too.

Agreed. If I were WWE, I'd want to keep your distance from a guy crippled by steroids and back problems, who lives angry and bitter in a council flat and stuck a shotgun under his wife's chin. It's probably a miracle that he's still alive. It's so sad. When Benoit talked about him, I assumed he was dead.

ceegee · 18-01-2012 1:29am

Pretty sure Rock isnt actually related to Yoko or any of the Anoa'is. He's more a "cousin" than actual cousin (like your dads best friend being "uncle" joe)

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