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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    HI guys we got carstens calculation test tomorrow and were supposed to do them without calculators but i have some questions of his type of questions that was given to us by quigley and they really take time without a calculator,what do you think?
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    HI guys we got carstens calculation test tomorrow and were supposed to do them without calculators but i have some questions of his type of questions that was given to us by quigley and they really take time without a calculator,what do you think?
    thanks
    If it's any help, the questions on isotonicity and osmolarity don't come up in the first year calculations test.

    The rest aren't too bad. If they're taking too much time, there's not much you can do save for practicing. They're easy enough once you get the hang of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    what do you think is it easy to get the 7 out of 10 or does he make it a bit challenging,and when are the reapeat exams for carstens calc. test
    thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    what do you think is it easy to get the 7 out of 10 or does he make it a bit challenging,and when are the reapeat exams for carstens calc. test
    thank you
    Having only ever sat a single one of Carsten's calculation tests, all I can say is the one he had for us last year seemed fair. How easy it is to pass... well that depends on how good you are at calculations :P The general consensus after the exam as far as I remember was "That was easier than I expected". Make of that what you will.

    Repeats are around Mar/Apr. Not entirely sure of that though, I passed the test first time around :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hmm im the sort of guy that always 'just about' gets things so im a little scared :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Then "just about" pass the exam and you'll be grand. Go for the most difficult calculations out of each section in the examples and do them repeatedly until you're sure of the method.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Our year got caught out on converting lb to kg.
    1 kg has 2.2lb.
    Calculations test is a piece of cake. You only need 4/10 in carstens as its the sum of his and quigley that go towards it.
    They're both handy though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hi guys,
    whats the best way to study from a slide,got to look over 17 slide for physiology(test on wednesday)
    do i re-write them or just try memorise.
    thanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    hi guys,
    whats the best way to study from a slide,got to look over 17 slide for physiology(test on wednesday)
    do i re-write them or just try memorise.
    thanks :D

    Different strokes for different folks really. Personally I prefer slides, however others will find rewriting them better.
    What worked for you last year. Did you work from your school books or did you write out your own notes.
    Just because writing them out works for Mary doesn't mean it's going to work for John.
    Don't try learn them off word for word. Find the key words on the slide and work from there. And really reading them a few times should get most into your head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hi
    do we have easter holidays?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Technically no but there's usually little to nothing going on (Barr the 06 practical exams) in Week 32.

    After that, we've all got a four week holiday... providing a hellish month of non-stop, frantic study is your idea of a holiday of course :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    hi
    do we have easter holidays?

    Haha yes!
    Good Friday and Easter Monday!:)
    We then have4 days of lectures followed by 3 revision weeks from the 8th of April and the exams start on the 29th.
    They then run for a month, and pharmacy exams will be a month long and the last day of exams are on the 25th of May. By the time you're finished, you wish you were doing the leaving cert again.
    You should then get the results on the 17th of June and find out whether your summers ruined or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Technically no but there's usually little to nothing going on (Barr the 06 practical exams) in Week 32.

    After that, we've all got a four week holiday... providing a hellish month of non-stop, frantic study is your idea of a holiday of course :p

    Don't remind me. 2 presentations, an osce, clinical skills exam as well as 02 mcq(most of 4th year failed it last year) in the week 30 won't be fun. As well as lab reports which take hours to do and you pretty much run out of study time. That month will be a godsend.

    I don't envy your year though. Sweet Jesus that was tough last year. Poor Abdul has it all to look forward too next year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    lol what can i say guys, im truly depressed now :'( . But come on pharmacy is worth it isnt it :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    lol what can i say guys, im truly depressed now :'( . But come on pharmacy is worth it isnt it :p
    Well second year is really tough but third year is handy enough subject matter wise. 4th year is meant to be alright as well. Basically they say if you get through the first 2 years, you'll fly through the next 2!
    And employment prospects are fairly decent as well. In the long run it's worth it as you can do basically anything with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Scortho wrote: »
    I don't envy your year though. Sweet Jesus that was tough last year. Poor Abdul has it all to look forward too next year!
    >_>

    A month of fun awaits.
    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    lol what can i say guys, im truly depressed now :'( . But come on pharmacy is worth it isnt it :p
    Well you'll know how to treat the depression anyway :pac:
    And employment prospects are fairly decent as well. In the long run it's worth it as you can do basically anything with it.
    From working in your local community pharmacy to working in Industry to being the next Walter White


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hi guys,
    would u say a guy that spent the whole year either outside or playing games and not caring about study at all,missed most of joe hogans 1005 maths lectures and most of physiology lectures.But is willing to start studying now,would he have a chance of passing the year :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    hi guys,
    would u say a guy that spent the whole year either outside or playing games and not caring about study at all, missed most of joe hogans 1005 maths lectures and most of physiology lectures.But is willing to start studying now,would he have a chance of passing the year :D
    Yes and a very good chance too if you start now.

    Prep your notes during March, study during April. That's the idea.

    As an aside, missing Hogan's 05 lectures has little to no ill effect. The exam is basically LC HL Maths [the old course] with a slightly more advanced matrices and exponential growth question. Just do a few past papers and you'll be fine.

    For physiology, get cracking now. Not only do you need the slides but you need to do some reading from Stanfield's Physiology. You won't need to read the whole book, just read whatever was suggested in the Physiology handbook.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Yes and a very good chance too if you start now.

    Prep your notes during March, study during April. That's the idea.

    As an aside, missing Hogan's 05 lectures has little to no ill effect. The exam is basically LC HL Maths [the old course] with a slightly more advanced matrices and exponential growth question. Just do a few past papers and you'll be fine.

    For physiology, get cracking now. Not only do you need the slides but you need to do some reading from Stanfield's Physiology. You won't need to read the whole book, just read whatever was suggested in the Physiology handbook.

    I passed using just the slides.....the mcq answers floating around beforehand were a life saviour.



    Abdul i told you to start three weeks ago. being in trinity in late august aint fun. trust me I know!:rolleyes:
    Anyhow I sent JeaicMag the physiology mcq's which he was meant to send around to the rest of yee, along with the biochem ones. If you dont have them pm me and I'll see what I can do.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    MCQs are on the facebook page :D To find them easy just click the "Files" tab


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hi guys
    any advise on the dispensing exam that we have on thursday ( anything that can make me more familiar with the examwhat to expect e.t.c.) and thank you very much :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    hi guys
    any advise on the dispensing exam that we have on thursday ( anything that can make me more familiar with the examwhat to expect e.t.c.) and thank you very much :)

    It's basically a normal dispensing class except there are barrier walls between each computer and it'll be under exam conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    can i just ask how many people failed from last year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    I know it was way less than our year but this years second years are a bunch of geniuses compared to our year and fourth year. Apparently schols are higher than average in pharmacy this year too (wouldnt be hard considering none in my year got them).
    I know in our year it was around 25-30 from first year who had a repeat in first year.
    Theres still plenty of time left to get studying though so dont be too worried....yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    anyone have an electronic version of ph1002 lab reports that they can send me. thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    anyone have an electronic version of ph1002 lab reports that they can send me. thanks

    Do your own lab reports!:D

    I can only find 2 of them and they're dire. :rolleyes:
    If you want them you can have them but you'll be lucky to get a pass with them. From what I can remember its healy's one that you need to put the most effort into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    yeah itll be great if u can send them to me, i dont even have results for some of them, quigley used to come into lab and say i have this and that with second years blablabla and walk out,i basically spent around 30 mins in each lab and then walked out( except for cmc one) and now that i have to do the lab reports and want to them properly i cant :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    yeah itll be great if u can send them to me, i dont even have results for some of them, quigley used to come into lab and say i have this and that with second years blablabla and walk out,i basically spent around 30 mins in each lab and then walked out( except for cmc one) and now that i have to do the lab reports and want to them properly i cant :(

    Your best bet would be to get the results of someone in your class...or make them up:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    hahaha or ill just say f it and repeat the labs during summer it will be fun :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    hahaha or ill just say f it and repeat the labs during summer it will be fun :rolleyes:

    Email quigs and tell him you've "lost" the results and with exams and stuff your under pressure etc etc and were wondering whats the best way to approach the situation...ITs worked for me before. You dont want to be repeating anything over the summer but if I had to chose Id chose lab reports


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    Scortho wrote: »
    Email quigs and tell him you've "lost" the results and with exams and stuff your under pressure etc etc and were wondering whats the best way to approach the situation...ITs worked for me before. You dont want to be repeating anything over the summer but if I had to chose Id chose lab reports
    i just did and he replies :
    Dear Abdul,
    Time may be a little short.
    This can wait until after the exam session.
    Kind regards,
    John. did he just tell im repeating them in summer?
    waaaaaaaaaaagh :'(


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    i just did and he replies :
    Dear Abdul,
    Time may be a little short.
    This can wait until after the exam session.
    Kind regards,
    John. did he just tell im repeating them in summer?
    waaaaaaaaaaagh :'(

    You're hardly going to have to repeat labs. I think he means just do the reports after the exams. The exams are going to be worth far more than the 15% for 1002 anyway :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    i hope so! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    i just did and he replies :
    Dear Abdul,
    Time may be a little short.
    This can wait until after the exam session.
    Kind regards,
    John. did he just tell im repeating them in summer?
    waaaaaaaaaaagh :'(

    He just did you a massive favour. Instead of making you submit them before the exams he's allowing you to STUDY now and not worry about them. Hes after giving you a 2 month or so extension. That said if you wish you can refuse the extension and instead of studying for the more important theory paper waste a day doing write ups. Id do the 02 study if I were you. Would you rather repeat the 02 paper in August or do the write ups. Trust me trinity in August ain't fun!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    honestly, this guys a legend :D cant hope to pass without him xD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    to the general public : this doesnt mean pharmacy is hard its a really fun course and rewarding degree, im just lazy :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    to the general public : this doesnt mean pharmacy is hard its a really fun course and rewarding degree, im just lazy :p

    Are you sure your doing the same course as me???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    Any words of advice for the last of these 3 weeks? I'm focusing mainly on Physiology, Biology and 1003 at the moment. Not sure how to approach Practice of Pharmacy tbh. I'm guessing if I cover Cicely Roche's stuff well I'll have an essay. What's the MCQ like? Negative marking :/

    Also, fun and pharmacy? :P It's not a bad course in the long run but there's a lot of stuff to cover :L


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Handed in the last lab report of the year. Now time to settle in to a hellish two and a half weeks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    JeaicMaG wrote: »
    Any words of advice for the last of these 3 weeks? I'm focusing mainly on Physiology, Biology and 1003 at the moment. Not sure how to approach Practice of Pharmacy tbh. I'm guessing if I cover Cicely Roche's stuff well I'll have an essay. What's the MCQ like? Negative marking :/

    Also, fun and pharmacy? :P It's not a bad course in the long run but there's a lot of stuff to cover :L
    why do biology when u already have around 20 to 25% from the lab mcq's and practicals ( btw u dont need over 40% to pass written exam) so u can just walk in get 20% and you have passed, do ph1002 so much in it and physiology and ph1003. take my advise as im definitely gonna ace all the exams like a boss :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    JeaicMaG wrote: »
    Any words of advice for the last of these 3 weeks? I'm focusing mainly on Physiology, Biology and 1003 at the moment. Not sure how to approach Practice of Pharmacy tbh. I'm guessing if I cover Cicely Roche's stuff well I'll have an essay. What's the MCQ like? Negative marking :/

    Also, fun and pharmacy? :P It's not a bad course in the long run but there's a lot of stuff to cover :L

    Yeah I'd rather do the leaving cert twice than go through 1st or second year pharmacy.

    01 know jwalsh mechanisms (if you haven't got harts book yet, get it!) you can pass 01 with knowing quigs alone, but that's risky. Stick to the info on his lecture slides and you'll at least get 60% from his 2 questions. Make sure to know Newman projections and stuff.

    02 again quigs you can pass on quigs. I went in with that attitude though and ended up back in there at August. Know solubility and healys isotherms. There should be 6 graphs in total. Tajber is easy enough to get marks of as well. The saqs are mainly definitions so know stuff like critical micele conc.

    03 is tricky. You have to answer the first question and pass on it.
    I'd leave out sasse. She's hard to get a good mark off and her slides are crap. Maybe if you have a good set of lecture notes maybe do it (Abdul I know you don't!:D ). Megan's two questions are a definite so know metabolism inside out.
    Fabio and quigs share a question. Fabios us easy (3-4 line summary on a no. Of plants,) but quigs one was tough.
    J gilmer is lovely. As is o donoghue. They correct like meegan, if you know the basics they will pass you.

    04 theory was a piece of piss. Basically dosage forms. Boring as hell though.

    05: if you did honours maths youll fly it. Know quigs half life and 0 first and second order equations as well and how to define them....should be 10-15 lines or something.....I think this was 05 but drop him an email to make sure.

    Biology: I scraped a pass on this by using leaving cert biology and a bit of cramming the night before. I'd leave out genetics and the micro stuff such as fungi. To hard to cram!

    Physiology: now that's where the fun lies. See all those lectures? A question can come from any one of them. 10 in total. So study study study!
    For the mcqs use the mcqs I gave you. There's nothing that you can really do to prepare for them other than learn the whole physiology book.
    What's the neg. marking for it? If its less than 0.5 I'd guess the answers that I didn't know.

    Biochem: mcq answers. Really that's it for that one. No neg marking either. There should be a few biochem papers online. Split the questions between a few of yee and find the answers. Don't bother looking at the slides...that's for the med students.

    Lastly 06.
    No wwham and otc codeine. You'll get a pass in henmans question fairly easily. Henman always has a question on the paper so I'd be more inclined to go for his stuff. Does cicely?
    Mcqs are tricky: stuff like is x true and is y true and is y an explanation of x or something! : confused I leave these ones blank.

    Make a study timetable. Don't neglect any one module as any of them could land you back in Luce in August and that's no fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Handed in the last lab report of the year. Now time to settle in to a hellish two and a half weeks

    How'd schols go?

    I feel your pain. I've four outstanding but I'd rather study and let Walsh and sasse chase me for them after the exams. Or dock me 1%!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    why do biology when u already have around 20 to 25% from the lab mcq's and practicals ( btw u dont need over 40% to pass written exam) so u can just walk in get 20% and you have passed, do ph1002 so much in it and physiology and ph1003. take my advise as im definitely gonna ace all the exams like a boss :cool:

    Biology is a bitch of an exam but you do have a good component already in the bag.
    No chromatography inside out for 03.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Scortho wrote: »
    How'd schols go?
    Got them :D

    Lost two days of study time but i'm far from complaining.
    Scortho wrote: »
    Biology is a bitch of an exam but you do have a good component already in the bag.
    No chromatography inside out for 03.
    I'd treat biology to almost the same level as physiology. Together, they're probably the toughest exams.

    If it's any help, there are four main lecturers in biology and two sections of three essays each on the biology paper. The first three questions come from the Chemistry of Life and Genetics sections. The second three come from the microbio and developmental biology sections. Last year, there were two genetics questions and two microbio questions. This year, if the pattern holds true (And I think that's likely given how it's probably designed to balance the lecturers' workloads) you should see two chemistry of life and two developmental biology sections.

    If you need to be selective, study those two sections more thoroughly than the other two.


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    Sound lads :) the negative marking I was talking about is 1006 :) Physiology has none so we're good to go. I'm finding writing essays on O' Neill's stuff tough but I saw the pattern and I'm not sure if I'll take the risk on genetics in the hope of getting a nice question. I reckon I might be able to make one up on the day for O' Neill's but I'd say it'll be all over the place

    My plan so far has been do Physiology first, then Biology and then the Ph100etc. ones (because I know these the best atm) but I end up spending the entire day on Physiology! I think I need to revise my strategy :L It gets very tiring very quick sitting around reading that book :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    I take it by o neill you mean Luke I neill?
    If so I'd avoid that question. I remember looking at the papers and seeing stuff in his question that wasn't in his lecture slides and stuff that required loads of extra reading. Unless your into that thing.

    Congrats partyatmygaff. Can we have a tcd beers after party at your new gaff next year?:D

    You takin residences or the dosh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭abdul 1995


    wow just looked up schols they are cool, defo going for it next year congrats by the way :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    Yeah Luke :P Yeah I'm going to go with Genetics and Developmental and cover the others for the SAQs.

    Also congrats partyatmygaff on schols :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    abdul 1995 wrote: »
    wow just looked up schols they are cool, defo going for it next year congrats by the way :D

    Really?:confused:

    Does boards ban taking bets/putting odds on other users doing something....:pac:

    Abdul is 3 months of straight study worth them to you? Ye the free accommodation would be nice, but you need to be of genius level and beyond to get them


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