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Fianna Fail's Top 100 Strokes - Add Yours

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Peter B


    Upward only rent reviews.

    Really? What feckin eejit thought that would be a good idea?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Breaking the fabric of rural Ireland, closing Post Offices, Garda Stations, the local pub........anyone over the age of 50 should be allowed to drive home after three pints on a deserted country road. Lazy laws one size fits all.

    Great to hear Pat Spillane on the Radio Wide "Country Wide") this morning (Sat Feb.4th.) talking about the demise of rural Ireland. He spoke about people living up the side of a mountain........isolation etc,etc.

    How many drivers over the age of 50 died in road accidents on R roads between 11pm. and 4 am. last year?

    Interesting to see these figures. Mental health due to isolation, lonliness etc. should get more attention if we want to keep communities alive.

    Lazy law makes bad law.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    If she was a capable competent person then so what if she was obese. Nobody else in cabinet wanted the department that Brian Cowen described as Angola. She showed some courage in asking for the post.

    Would you not like to see a wheelchair bound person as minister for sport? Or someone who does not own land as minister for agriculture?

    If someone is competent to do a job does their appearance matter?

    Is this some type of joke?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭NakedNNettles


    Everybody makes mistakes, FF are still the best of a bad lot as a party ,.

    No, they're not. they effed up the country, the people demand better.

    How come some still live in cloud cookoo land?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    3. Opening the floodgates and letting lots of foreign people onto our native shores
    Then being unable to close them as the natives rushed out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    dinorebel wrote: »
    lastlaugh wrote: »
    3. Opening the floodgates and letting lots of foreign people onto our native shores
    Then being unable to close them as the natives rushed out.

    And deny them their "lifestyle choice" ? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Well in fairness you did post that FF had "overseen" the bubble, which - given their mismanagement - is as ridiculous a comment as it gets.

    In fairness Liam, I posted no such thing. Can you point out where I posted that like a good chap?
    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    McEnroe's comment was "you cannot be serious" and bears no resemblance.

    "You cannot be serious" & "Are you actually serious" are essentially the same thing. Someone expressing incredulity at something said or done.
    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    And as I said "haters gonna hate" is as clichéd and unfunny as "blast them with piss" or "yore ma" - mildly funny 10 years ago when it was original, but yawn-inducing now.

    I see sarcasm is lost on you.

    Now you can get back to this yawn inducing topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    lastlaugh wrote:
    In fairness Liam, I posted no such thing. Can you point out where I posted that like a good chap?

    Sorry - "in response" to, and you quoted the person who pointed out the problem with FF.

    If your "haters gonna hate" was merely unoriginal sarcasm towards those who ignore the valid criticisms towards FF, then I apologise for missing that subtlety - it's probably because decent people's concerns are being dismissed by that sickening organisation and their successors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Bringing back the rotten Beverly Cooper Flynn to boost their numbers. Even though she was tainted with suspicion of tax avoidance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    While most of the deplorable actions of this human garbage have already been mentioned, I feel it would be unfair to let the thread go by without a special commendation for GV Wright.

    For those who might not be aware, he's the appalling cnut who mowed down a nurse while drink-driving, breaking her leg in several places, leaving her with a permanent limp, and then fled the scene.

    He was fined €900.:mad:


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  • Posts: 1,427 [Deleted User]


    Peter B wrote: »
    Upward only rent reviews.

    Really? What feckin eejit thought that would be a good idea?

    The property owners and landlords that were funding Fianna Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Raphael Patrick Burke, the others that followed were just mere apprentices

    Burke was the master

    And brown envelope became a normal phrase you'd hear around Ireland

    Department of Justice did nothing at all over him
    It was left to Revenue who got him over tax returns. Sometimes it seems Revenue is the only reliable government body we have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    You have to blame the idiots who kept voting them back in.
    Far too many uninformed voters. There should be a Fás course that explains the polices of each party that everyone must attend before voting in a general election
    Yea, but policies don't mean jack s**t once they get into office as we've just seen....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Doing nothing to end 30 years of conflict in the north....oh wait
    It took a hell of a lot more than a few strokes from bertie & his fellow travellers to end 30 years of conflict in northern Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    It took a hell of a lot more than a few strokes from bertie & his fellow travellers to end 30 years of conflict in northern Ireland.

    Bertie gets too much credit there. It was Reynolds who did most of the work and bertie rode the coattails.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Berties idea of negotiation is sit back and give in to every demand
    And then claim he was successful and everyone was happy. Well of course they were happy

    He did it with the social partners for years when instead a bit of leadership was required


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Berties idea of negotiation is sit back and give in to every demand
    And then claim he was successful and everyone was happy. Well of course they were happy

    He did it with the social partners for years when instead a bit of leadership was required
    It's called being a spineless cnut.


  • Posts: 1,427 [Deleted User]


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    It's called being a spineless cnut.

    It's called buying votes. And very effective it was while the cheap credit was flowing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Breaking the fabric of rural Ireland, closing Post Offices, Garda Stations, the local pub........anyone over the age of 50 should be allowed to drive home after three pints on a deserted country road. Lazy laws one size fits all.

    What stupidity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    What stupidity.

    In addition to what I posted as you quoted, I invite you to read my later post, posted this morning after listening to Pat Spillane on RTE's "Country Wide" programme. Maybe you will be able to stretch your reply beyond two words without getting yourself banned.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    another FF stroke:

    This time from Presidential Election 2011. Fianna Fail lets on the party was in disarray. Letting on to the electorate that their candidate was Mary Davis but their real runner in that election was FF insider Sean Gallagher a.k.a Baldy Bertie. a.k.a. Bertie Mark II a.k.a The Bagman. The stroke was infamously derailed during the live Frontline show just one week before the election.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Breaking the fabric of rural Ireland, closing Post Offices, Garda Stations, the local pub........anyone over the age of 50 should be allowed to drive home after three pints on a deserted country road. Lazy laws one size fits all.
    That has be either an attempt at trolling or just plain stupid!
    Drunk drivers cause death and misery, like that oul culchie who drove, drunk, down the wrong side of a motorway and killed an innocent woman.
    After you suffer a loss at the hands of drunk driver you might change your mind!
    Best FF stroke....letting builders decide for themselves if their properties were up to standard, Priory Hall ring a bell?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Introducing the banale and cringeworthy phrases "going forward" and "we've turned the corner" on an unsuspecting Irish public.


    Oh yea, and for using the term "savings" instead of what they were, CUTS! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    telekon wrote: »
    Introducing the banale and cringeworthy phrases "going forward" and "we've turned the corner" on an unsuspecting Irish public.

    That was more David Brent and the thousands of wannabes who call themselves managers across Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Increasing VAT when the british econony lowered theirs.

    Telling people to "shop around" for cheaper prices and then when they went to Banbridge and Newry and Belfast calling them unpatriotic.

    Giving Ryanair the two fingers rather than allow them to create 800 jobs in Ireland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    stoneill wrote: »
    Telling people to "shop around" for cheaper prices

    Mary Harney, PD's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭xflyer


    Irish Steve covered most of my intended points. But there were others.

    Charlie Haughey and his cronies buying up all the land on the route of the M50 before the route was announced.

    Benchmarking, it was supposed to keep public sector pay in line with the private sector to prevent people leaving for better paid jobs. Very soon the benchmark bore no resemblance to anything going on in the private sector.

    Bertie Ahern claiming he had a lot of generous friends and that he was also one of the most successful horse racing punters in the country, all the while bringing peace to Northern Ireland and being responsible for the boom. :rolleyes:

    But mostly for destroying this country economically once again by taking the genuine boom and turning into a property bubble.

    Fianna Fail are responsible for keeping this country backwards and poor for most of it's existence. In many other countries most of the current crop wouldn't simply have been voted out of office on fat pensions. They would have been hanged from the nearest lamposts. Corruption is normal with them. Burke, Ahern, Haughey, Reynolds. All of them corrupt and that's only those at the top. We also have the likes of Callely who really doesn't understand what he did wrong. Sure wasn't everyone at it? If there's an honest member of FF it's probably because he or she is too stupid to get away with it.

    FF is a blight and an embarrassment to this country. Anyone who voted for them is culpable for the current state of the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    If someone is competent to do a job does their appearance matter?

    If that were the case then no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    another Fianna Fail stroke:

    The deliberate appointment of a dope of a financial regulator - Patrick Neary. Having a malleable character like Neary suited Fianna Fail and their banking buddies just perfectly. FF could now blow the property bubble ever bigger. Having Neary as the financial regulator meant light touch regulation just got lighter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    Another Fianna Fail Stroke:


    How did €6500 from property developer Owen O'Callaghan end up
    mysteriously in Michael Martin wife's Dublin bank account?

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/02/11/so-why-did-that-money-end-up-in-your-wifes-account-mr-martin/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Back stroke.

    Charlie was brilliant at it.

    I thought it was a back scratch?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    1) Liam Lawlor - The mere mention of the name
    2) Jim McDaid - The poll topping drink driver
    3) Willie O'Dea - The poll topping defamer
    4) Bertie Ahern- The poll topping stroker
    5) Brian Cowen - The poll topping taoiseach that is the worst leader in the nations history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    Another Fianna Fail Stroke:

    How did the National Consumer Agency, the agency which advises the general public to spend money wisely give €562,000 to a PR consultancy in just 3 years? Was it because Martin Mackin and his sidekick Jackie Gallagher are both Fianna Fail insiders. Was it because Mackin and Gallagher are friends with a certain Celia Larkin who recommend that Q4 be used?


    More Fianna Fail strokes coming up...


  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    Heres just a small example of a FF stroke but more than likely repeated all over the state
    http://www.highlandradio.com/2011/01/10/tanaiste-says-lyit-land-deal-all-above-aboard/

    This land was purchased by the state from a former FF cllr, major FF benefactor and close personal friend of Mary Coughlan Terry mceniff. After it was purchased it was found that the land was riddled in asbestos by the infill used on the site it was also found that the land was very liable to flooding. This purchase took place just before MC was booted out of office! A last stroke of cronyism perhaps..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As corrupt as they were , it makes me wonder would they be better in office then FG and Labour. Kinda like Microsoft hiring hackers to help with their security.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Shouting down the best idea anyone has had for years to try and tackle binge drinking - Cafe Bars (and i really hated McDowell) because at the time something like 52% of FF td's owned pubs.

    Haughey could have his own thread. Buy a stud farm (or get it given to you by a "mate" in the business) and make them tax free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    As corrupt as they were , it makes me wonder would they be better in office then FG and Labour. Kinda like Microsoft hiring hackers to help with their security.

    Picking one is hard. It's like who would you rather shag, your mam or your dad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    As corrupt as they were , it makes me wonder would they be better in office then FG and Labour. Kinda like Microsoft hiring hackers to help with their security.

    No, re-read the posts. All of the strokes of FF are to feather their own nests or those of their friends. Not for the good of the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Surprised at how little abuse Teflon Bertie is getting here, maybe people do really believe everything would be ok if he were still in charge?

    Some posters have mentioned this already but for me, this 14second clip sums up everyone that's wrong with Irish politics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsnLyHKWtrg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


    Apologies, I couldn't manage to get the link to post properly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    Another Fianna Fail Stroke:

    When the damage of Cowen and Lenihan's bank guarantee first began to sink into the public's conscious. FF spindoctors got to work and pitted public vs private sector workers against each other. Both sides started squabbling with each other over pay and conditions and the media spotlight was taken off the bank guarantee for a few weeks.
    This gave FF some breathing space for a short time. More time to devise more strokes.

    More Fianna Fail strokes coming up after the break.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    Another Fianna Fail Stroke:

    Here's a stroke pulled by the Hanafin family in 2007.

    One morning Mona Hanafin visits her Mary Hanafin daughter in Leinster House in late 2007. However, during her visit she experiences a fall.

    A couple of days later she files a personal injury claim against the State.
    This case was settled for an "undisclosed sum".

    Beneath Mary Hanafin's prim and proper exterior lies a greedy, amoral and corrupt individual. (All the DNA of a true Fianna Failer) A particularly despicable act from the Hanafin dynasty.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/hanafins-mum-makes-compo-claim-after-she-falls-in-leinster-house-1624065.html


    More Fianna Fail Strokes coming up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    jetsonx wrote: »
    Please help get this list to 100, it should be very easy.

    This is the Ultimate list of Fianna Fail's Top 100 Strokes.

    Lets gets the list started then...

    1) The decision to give excess Irish cheese to people on social welfare and
    those "most in need". (Christmas 2010)

    I don't get the problem with the cheese thing. I like cheese. I would love some free cheese. If it was a case that there was a stockpile of cheese going to waste then people would be giving out about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    MagicSean wrote: »
    I don't get the problem with the cheese thing. I like cheese. I would love some free cheese. If it was a case that there was a stockpile of cheese going to waste then people would be giving out about that.


    If your family were getting hammered by cuts to bail out friends of Fianna Fail and then FF turn around and try to placate you with some free cheese, how would you feel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    jetsonx wrote: »
    If your family were getting hammered by cuts to bail out friends of Fianna Fail and then FF turn around and try to placate you with some free cheese, how would you feel?

    I'd feel like I didn't have tio buy cheese next week. I might make a lasagna.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    out of date iodine capsules incase of nuclear war.

    like that is gonna stop the radiation poisoning. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    out of date iodine capsules incase of nuclear war.

    like that is gonna stop the radiation poisoning. :rolleyes:

    Because in date capsules would protect you in a nuclear war. As long as you remember to duck and cover


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    The two biggest mistakes the government have made since I started voting were the sale of the phone network and the purchase of the M50 contract.


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