N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

NewbridgeIR · 15-02-2019 12:16am

josip wrote: »

The sides have grown in a lot in fairness.
The old white line can still be seen in a few places

https://goo.gl/maps/n6MDfSDRk2U2

Any HGVs, or lorries as they were called back then, going under the county road bridge leaned on the horn for a good 10 seconds while they swung wide to go under the centre of the bridge. Great entertainment watching it from above on the railway, especially when a car from the other side didn't hear/heed the horn.

https://goo.gl/maps/XGg9KoUhpr92

At that time, boatloads of Japanese cars used to land in Ross, perhaps because of the strike at Waterford port.
Anyways, the car transports heading south couldn't fit under the bridges. So they had to go the back road.
If you thought the pink rock was bad...

https://goo.gl/maps/hv3Vf436YRp

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

road_high · 16-02-2019 1:20pm

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

The railway bridges on the old N9 were similar design though not quite as narrow and low as that one I’d say

BelfastVanMan · 16-02-2019 1:52pm

road_high wrote: »

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

The railway bridges on the old N9 were similar design though not quite as narrow and low as that one I’d say

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

road_high · 16-02-2019 2:00pm

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

BelfastVanMan · 16-02-2019 2:03pm

road_high wrote: »

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

I know...less than a decade ago...madness.

The M9 is literally 2 centuries ahead of the R448.

Harry Palmr · 16-02-2019 2:10pm

The primary roads to and around the south east were appalling, some of them are still in need of significant investment - New Ross to Enniscorthy springs to mind and the N24 of course.

The N9/R448 at Dungarvan (the other one) had a sharp right turn at the bottom of a long slope - the corner of a building (pub? unused now) at the junction got taken out at least once.

https://goo.gl/maps/aQ1k5xTaqhm

(do a rotation and you'll see 3 HGV's converging in this 2009 image)

marno21 · 16-02-2019 2:11pm

road_high wrote: »

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

There's still an "oncoming traffic in middle of road" sign on the N24 north west of Cahir. These days whilst we are getting limited numbers of road projects built, to say they are transformative is an understatement.

jelutong · 16-02-2019 2:37pm

Frostybrew wrote: »

Slightly off topic question, was the Pink Rock road originally part of the N25 back in the late 1970s and 80s? I travelled the road back in 1982 on the way to the ferry and remember it being a narrow enough winding road that you from which you could see the Barrow. I know that a new stretch of road was constructed in this area in the late 80s or 90s.

Also, the road passed through Ferrybank, Milepost and Slieverue villages. Rocketts pub in the Milepost had a few narrow shaves over the years.

road_high · 17-02-2019 1:36am

Any one a 70s or early 80s detailed road map of Ireland? Be fascinating to see these old routes on maps

my3cents · 17-02-2019 10:38am

road_high wrote: »

Any one a 70s or early 80s detailed road map of Ireland? Be fascinating to see these old routes on maps

http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html and try the historic maps. Edit> You can open more than one map and superimpose one them on each other.

Geogregor · 17-02-2019 10:54am

my3cents wrote: »

http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html and try the historic maps. Edit> You can open more than one map and superimpose one them on each other.

What a brilliant website, I can spend hours on it

m17 · 17-02-2019 11:58am

The barrow crossing 12/02/19 (pic engineers ireland )

m17 · 17-02-2019 2:10pm

The barrow crossing 13/02/19 (pic niall Roche twitter )

m17 · 18-02-2019 1:32pm

Bridge construction January 19

eagerv · 18-02-2019 11:15pm

2100Hrs Tonight.
The old Pink Rock road is open again...

The road had become overgrown, it has now been cleaned up a bit.

topnotch · 23-02-2019 7:18pm

road_high wrote: »

Any one a 70s or early 80s detailed road map of Ireland? Be fascinating to see these old routes on maps

Took a quick snap of the old 1/2 inch to 1 mile South Wexford map there for ya. (1986)

swoofer · 24-02-2019 11:12am

any updates on the opening of this by pass, want to book uk trip asap?

alta stare · 24-02-2019 11:49am

swoofer wrote: »

any updates on the opening of this by pass, want to book uk trip asap?

Wexford CC and BAM say summer and rumours are it is behind and it will be November. From the progress i see when i pass by it looks like it is on schedule so who knows.

Not being smart but do you need it to be open to book a trip?

swoofer · 24-02-2019 1:22pm

yes, I want to by pass new ross forever, spent too long in queues!!

alta stare · 24-02-2019 1:50pm

swoofer wrote: »

yes, I want to by pass new ross forever, spent too long in queues!!

Yeah it is a pain alright

Mornings are fine its between half 5 and half 6 going in to New Ross from the Waterford side which is a pita.

jelutong · 24-02-2019 8:03pm

Waterford side?

alta stare · 24-02-2019 11:16pm

jelutong wrote: »

Waterford side?

Coming from Waterford direction. I forgot to add the evening part to those times.

Cookiemunster · 27-02-2019 4:31pm

Some cool pics in the fog posted on twitter by BAM

Pier Three rising out of the mist - a thing of beauty, a joy to behold. #newrossbypass #n25nrjv @BAMIrl_ @BAMPPP

Deise Vu · 27-02-2019 4:43pm

^^^^
That's worthy of the cool pics thread! The second photo is amazing. I have no head for heights, If I had to descend that ladder my imagination would be telling me the bottom half could be missing!

allthedoyles · 01-03-2019 1:19am

The eagerly anticipated New Ross Bridge and N25 Bypass will open at a yet to be determined date in 2020, rather than this summer, as had been previously anticipated.
The news, disclosed to South Kilkenny Councillors at the February meeting of the Piltown Municipal District, was not greeted with any palpable sense of disappointment on members’ behalves.

As late as last September, Councillors had been told that the project was due to open by June of this year.

http://www.munster-express.ie/business/new-ross-bridge-to-open-in-2020/

Its going to be 2020 as I always suspected .

alta stare · 01-03-2019 9:18am

allthedoyles wrote: »

http://www.munster-express.ie/business/new-ross-bridge-to-open-in-2020/

Its going to be 2020 as I always suspected .

That is disappointing if true.

Azatadine · 01-03-2019 2:00pm

No surprise though is it? It's been pretty well flagged. I hope it's early 2020 but if they are not giving a date, it may well be a long way off still.

josip · 01-03-2019 2:09pm

Presumably that article is by and large a cut and paste press release from BAM with little if no journalistic input?
Some of the statements are completely contradictory.

"will open at a yet to be determined date in 2020"

"Councillors had been told that the project was due to open by June of this year."

"Progress ... has proceeded on schedule"

Jamie2k9 · 01-03-2019 2:58pm

Oh dear Leo or just about any TD will have no photo opportunity before an election!

Sam Russell · 01-03-2019 5:16pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Oh dear Leo or just about any TD will have no photo opportunity before an election!

I think standing on the edge of the part completed bridge looking into the Barrow would make a tremendous photo op.

m17 · 01-03-2019 6:15pm

The barrow crossing 28/02/19 (pic endo delaney)

L1011 · 01-03-2019 6:24pm

Enniscorthy is the same constituency - they should do photo op wise

m17 · 08-03-2019 1:34pm

The barrow crossing 07/03/19 (pic fb)

Azatadine · 08-03-2019 1:45pm

I wish those sections would connect! Then I'll know we are getting close!

jelutong · 08-03-2019 10:33pm

So would BAM!

m17 · 13-03-2019 7:24pm

The barrow crossing 27/02/19 (pic stan prucha)

m17 · 14-03-2019 9:52am

The barrow crossing 27/02/19 (pics stan prucha)

josip · 14-03-2019 10:30am

Azatadine · 14-03-2019 11:35am

I know nothing about construction but was wondering if those two missing sections get 'dropped in' or do the sections need to be built out and meet each other?

josip · 14-03-2019 11:42am

Azatadine wrote: »

I know nothing about construction but was wondering if those two missing sections get 'dropped in' or do the sections need to be built out and meet each other?

They get built out using travellers.
There was a movie posted earlier but I can't find it.
BAM Slideset has some info.
https://www.waterfordchamber.ie/images/Declan-Roche-BAM.pdf

allthedoyles · 14-03-2019 6:55pm

The gap appears to be closing slowly but surely

vickers209 · 14-03-2019 9:46pm

Few pics from facebook

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josip · 14-03-2019 9:52pm

^^^^^ Have those photos been given the John Hinde treatment?

Chris_5339762 · 14-03-2019 10:42pm

I had a sudden thought. Is there, by volume, more concrete in this 900m long bridge than in all of the buildings in the town it is bypassing?

Kirbstone · 15-03-2019 4:33am

Concrete volume comparison is academic & not relevant. Latest pics very good and informative. Progress may seem slow, but on quite a complex project as this, haste is not an option.
We've been waiting for this bridge for a lifetime and a few months delay is nothing. It's shaping up to be a great deal more impressive 'in the flesh' than the photomontages.

m17 · 15-03-2019 10:01am

The barrow crossing 07/03/19 (pic fb)

fricatus · 15-03-2019 11:57am

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

I had a sudden thought. Is there, by volume, more concrete in this 900m long bridge than in all of the buildings in the town it is bypassing?

Kirbstone wrote: »

Concrete volume comparison is academic & not relevant.

Of course it's academic and irrelevant, but it's nevertheless an interesting question by way of diversion.

I have no grounds whatsoever to back this up but I would bet that there's a lot more concrete in the town than in the bridge. New Ross is not huge, but it's not a little village either. I'd be interested to see calculations from someone with the relevant knowledge!

josip · 15-03-2019 12:13pm

I'll have a wild stab at New Ross, but I have no qualifications in the area

Population of 8,000 people and with an average of 2.7 per house = just under 3,000 houses.

I've seen a figure of 50 cubic metres of concrete per 'average' house.
So 150,000 cubic metres for housing.
And then I'd triple that for all the other stuff, shops, schools, halls, concrete streets, Hanrahan bridge, piping, the mushroom, etc.
So 450,000 cubic metres in the town by my guess.

How much is in the bridge?

m17 · 15-03-2019 3:06pm

josip wrote: »

I'll have a wild stab at New Ross, but I have no qualifications in the area
Population of 8,000 people and with an average of 2.7 per house = just under 3,000 houses.

I've seen a figure of 50 cubic metres of concrete per 'average' house.
So 150,000 cubic metres for housing.
And then I'd triple that for all the other stuff, shops, schools, halls, concrete streets, Hanrahan bridge, piping, the mushroom, etc.
So 450,000 cubic metres in the town by my guess.

How much is in the bridge?

27,000 cubic metres

corm500 · 15-03-2019 9:55pm

I assume this will be the longest bridge in Ireland north and south, but where does it sit in the scheme of things if you were to include Britain?

N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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