"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

Ghost Buster · 15-09-2010 9:42pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

get out of my internet

He will get himself banned eventually. It happened in "Christianity". The moment he figures out who the females are he gets a bit racey and sweaty in his posts.

J C · 15-09-2010 9:43pm

Malty_T wrote: »

Sorry JC, but I am one of those people who doesn't subscribe to the idea that having a higher pay grade, Ph D, Nobel Prize, adds merit to the value of that person's personal opinions. Their opinions gain merit by demonstrating the logic and evidence behind them, not by invoking their authority on the subject. He could have cured cancer for all I care, it still doesn't lend his opinions extra credence in my view.

Fair enough ... I'm a little like that myself ... having a Noble Prize doesn't validate everything that somebody says ... but I wouldn't write-off everything they say without seriously evaluating it either.

J C · 15-09-2010 9:45pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

get out of my internet

Jesus Christ loves you.

I'm off ... love and peace to you all

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 9:45pm

J C wrote: »

Jesus Christ loves you.

does he also love double posts ?

too bad he doesn't exist

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 9:47pm

J C wrote: »

To quote Kevin again "Evolutionism is now basically just another belief system, but one that depends on a great deal of science; and where science doesn't supply the answers, it launches itself into a mass of abstractions and elaborate essays in Yetology, as in: "Science has not YET explained the emergence of the first peptides, however . . ." The "yet" is evidence of the dogmatic belief in the power of the future tense, in which science, like the US Seventh Cavalry, will always come to the rescue; and the "however" is the gateway to theorising of the kind that in a different belief system is used to offer "plausible" explanations for the utterly implausible dogmas, such as those of the Blessed Trinity or Papal Infallibility."

... so where did you study for your degree in Yetology?

Explanation

"Evolutionism is now basically just another belief system (it being a higly regarded scientific thoery) but one that depends on a great deal of science (goes without saying); and where science doesn't supply the answers, it launches itself into a mass of abstractions (stuff I don't understand) and elaborate essays in Yetology (my buzz word for saying nah na na na na na), as in: "Science has not YET explained the emergence of the first peptides (and many other things besides, what d oyou mean what's my point?) however . . ." The "yet" is evidence (no its not) of the dogmatic belief in the power of the future tense (the yet , in which science, like the US Seventh Cavalry, will always come to the rescue (what do you mean where do i go if I'm sick?); and the "however" is the gateway to theorising (yes I don't undersdtand what the word 'theory' means in a scientific context) of the kind that in a different belief system is used to offer "plausible" explanations for the utterly implausible dogmas, such as those of the Blessed Trinity or Papal Infallibility." (you see what I did there, I mixed in religion to emm.. to show you know that like science is like religion becasue you know the things that we...emm...stuff we don't know and we say we do..it's like a belief you know???)

Myers is a turd talking troglodyte of the tallest order.

J C · 15-09-2010 9:50pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

The moment he figures out who the females are he gets a bit racey and sweaty in his posts.

What are you talking about?

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 9:53pm

J C wrote: »

Believe on the lord Jesus Christ...

Lets say I manage to get on this Jesus cahracter...what is it you want me to believe in?

Ghost Buster · 15-09-2010 9:54pm

J C wrote: »

What are you talking about?

or to use your debating tactic. What are you talking about?
You have 3 types of debate:
(1) I know i am but what are you.
(2) You would say that cos your in league with THEM!!!!
(3) (when all else fails) Lalalalalalalalala na na nan a naHH

J C · 15-09-2010 9:55pm

stevejazzx wrote: »

Myers is a turd talking troglodyte of the tallest order.

... last time I heard him speak he had a rather clipped D4 accent ... and he is always highly articulate.

Sometimes I agree with him ... and often I totally disagree ... but he is always worth listening to!!!

Turtwig · 15-09-2010 9:57pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

(3) (when all else fails) Lalalalalalalalala na na nan a naHH

Hey Jude.:)

J C · 15-09-2010 9:57pm

stevejazzx wrote: »

Lets say I manage to get on this Jesus cahracter...what is it you want me to believe in?

That He can Save you.

J C · 15-09-2010 9:59pm

Malty_T wrote: »

Hey Jude.:)

... you hum it ... and I'll sing it.!!:)

Ghost Buster · 15-09-2010 9:59pm

J C wrote: »

That He can Save you.

Unless youre gay. he has a thing about that.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:00pm

J C wrote: »

That He can Save you.

yes as well know that out of the hundreds of religions Christianity is right because you were raised one and believing in Jesus will make you live forever after you die

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:04pm

jc wrote:

Believe on the lord Jesus chirst

stevejazzx wrote: »

Lets say I manage to get on this Jesus cahracter...what is it you want me to believe in?

J C wrote: »

That He can Save you.

So it is necessary to actually mount him in advance then?

J C · 15-09-2010 10:04pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

too bad he (Jesus) doesn't exist

He does ... and He loves you ... and wants to Save you.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:06pm

J C wrote: »

He does ... and He loves you ... and wants to Save you.

give me evidence and i will give him my (non-existent) soul, any atheism is a unforgivable sin he wont save anyone who has ever had a doubt

robindch · 15-09-2010 10:06pm

J C wrote: »

He does

Jesus is dead, dude.

Get over it.

J C · 15-09-2010 10:08pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Unless youre gay. he has a thing about that.

He loves everyone and died to Save everyone (including Gays ... and Atheists).

FionnMatthew · 15-09-2010 10:08pm

I deny the holy spirit.

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:09pm

robindch wrote: »

Jesus is dead, dude.

Get over it.

He's a zombie Robin...eveyone knows that!

Believe in the zombie...he can save you.

MagicMarker · 15-09-2010 10:09pm

That's what you think.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:09pm

J C wrote: »

He loves everyone and died to Save everyone (including Gays).

no your supposed to kill them you misunderstand your own sacred text? atheism is an unforgivable sin read my post unforgivable , UNFORGIVABLE, UNFORGIVABLE SIN

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:09pm

FionnMatthew wrote: »

I deny the holy spirit.

[John Cleese accent]
RIGHT.....there's always one isn't there:)

J C · 15-09-2010 10:10pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

give me evidence and i will give him my (non-existent) soul, any atheism is a unforgivable sin he wont save anyone who has ever had a doubt

... He died to Save Sinners (and I include myself in this category) ... and there is no sin too great for Him to forgive.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:11pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

no your supposed to kill them you misunderstand your own sacred text? atheism is an unforgivable sin read my post unforgivable , UNFORGIVABLE, UNFORGIVABLE SIN

J C wrote: »

... He died to Save Sinners (and I include myself in this category) ... and there is no sin too great for Him to forgive.

see above

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:11pm

J C wrote: »

... He died to Save Sinners ... and there is no* sin too great for Him to forgive.

*terms and conditions apply

J C · 15-09-2010 10:13pm

robindch wrote: »

Jesus is dead, dude.

Get over it.

Hi Robin ... long time no see.

FionnMatthew · 15-09-2010 10:14pm

J C wrote: »

... He died to Save Sinners (and I include myself in this category) ... and there is no sin too great for Him to forgive.

Except, according to ...

* Mark 3:28-30: "Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphemies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit’."

* Matthew 12:30-32: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, people will be forgiven every sin and blasphemy. But the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

* Luke 12:8-10: "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."

* Hebrews 6:4-8: "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are convinced of better things in your case — the things that have to do with salvation."

* Hebrews 10:26-29: "For we—sinning wilfully after receiving the full knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and fiery zeal about to consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think those deserve to be punished who have trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has considered as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who have insulted the Spirit of grace?"

... the sin of denying the holy spirit.

I deny the holy spirit. I deny it for peanuts. It can rub itself off nonexistently for all i care.

Now go away.

J C · 15-09-2010 10:15pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

see above

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would Saved!!!

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:17pm

J C wrote: »

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would Saved!!!

More plotholes?

robindch · 15-09-2010 10:18pm

J C wrote: »

there is no sin too great for Him to forgive.

Unless you "deny the holy spirit".

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J C · 15-09-2010 10:18pm

stevejazzx wrote: »

*terms and conditions apply

... no terms or conditions ... the total cost of God's love ... is no charge!!!.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:19pm

J C wrote: »

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would Saved!!!

nobody is getting saved anyway there is nothing to be saved from

J C · 15-09-2010 10:23pm

FionnMatthew wrote: »

Except, according to ...

... the sin of denying the holy spirit.

I deny the holy spirit. I deny it for peanuts. It can rub itself off nonexistently for all i care.

Now go away.

Your eternal destiny is in the balance ... but let me tell you that you haven't committed an unforgivable sin.

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:23pm

FionnMatthew wrote: »

I deny the holy spirit.

Dougla2 wrote: »

no your supposed to kill them you misunderstand your own sacred text? atheism is an unforgivable sin read my post unforgivable , UNFORGIVABLE, UNFORGIVABLE SIN

Dougla2 wrote: »

see above

FionnMatthew wrote: »

Except, according to ...

... the sin of denying the holy spirit.

I deny the holy spirit. I deny it for peanuts. It can rub itself off nonexistently for all i care.

Now go away.

J C wrote: »

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would Saved!!!

robindch wrote: »

Unless you "deny the holy spirit".

_____________________________________________

Atheists and Agnostics - since 2006, we've been helping christians know what god wants them to believe!

J C wrote: »

... no terms or conditions ... the total cost of God's love ... is no charge!!!.

Emmmm....?

Dades · 15-09-2010 10:23pm

J C wrote: »

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would be Saved!!!

Nobody worthwhile, anyway.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:25pm

J C wrote: »

Your eternal destiny is in the balance ... but let me tell you that you haven't committed an unforgivable sin.

what eternal destiny? after you die your personality is gone your brain dissolves over time you got no conciousness

robindch · 15-09-2010 10:25pm

Dades wrote: »

J C wrote: »

If Atheism was an unforgivable sin ... nobody would be Saved!!!

Nobody worthwhile, anyway.

Dades -- I'll see you in hell

First beer's on me in the only place in the universe free of True Christians(tm)!

J C · 15-09-2010 10:26pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

nobody is getting saved anyway there is nothing to be saved from

Oh yes there is.

J C · 15-09-2010 10:28pm

robindch wrote: »

Dades -- I'll see you in hell

First beer's on me in the only place in the universe free of True Christians(tm)!

Unfortunately there is no beer in Hell ... but the 'best lager in the Universe' will be freely flowing on tap in Heaven!!!!

stevejazzx · 15-09-2010 10:28pm

J C wrote: »

Oh yes there is.

Oh no there isn't....

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:29pm

J C wrote: »

Oh yes there is.

what mythical hell dimensions , grow the **** up do you also believe in the easter bunny?

J C · 15-09-2010 10:31pm

Dades wrote: »

Nobody worthwhile, anyway.

Everybody is a much loved child of God.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:33pm

J C wrote: »

Everybody is a much loved child of God.

apart from atheists,agnostics,pagans,Buddhists,Satanists,Hindus,Muslims,gays,
transgender ,lesbians etc.....

J C · 15-09-2010 10:33pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

what mythical hell dimensions

Unfortunately Hell exists ... but the good news is that Heaven also exists.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:34pm

J C wrote: »

Unfortunately Hell exists ... but the good news is that Heaven also exists.

Evidence?

listen up guys jc has evidence for hell and heaven

J C · 15-09-2010 10:35pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

apart from atheists,agnostics,pagans,Buddhists,Satanists,Hindus,Muslims,gays,
transgender ,lesbians etc.....

I said everybody ... including all of the aforementioned ... and the Evolutionists as well !!!!:)

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 10:36pm

J C wrote: »

I said everybody ... including all of the aforementioned ... and the Evolutionists as well !!!!:)

do you have ****ing dial-up or something look at the newer posts

sponsoredwalk · 15-09-2010 10:36pm

J C wrote: »

'Queen Victoria's question' still hasn't been answered by any of these papers ... HOW did the specific sequences arrange themselves spontaneously ... when we find that insulin is tightly specified (or in Evolutionist Speak 'highly conserved during Vertebrate evolution')!!!

Stop ponsing about ... and answer the question ... you might even win €10 Grand!!!
... or lose your faith in Evolution!!!

Do you understand the concept of thermodynamics? I'm sure if you think
about the oft-quoted phrase "the second law of thermodynamics" you'll
remember it. That phrase can be taken apart and all of the seperate
words have meaning despite the overall meaning of the phrase as used to
advance creationism. Well the word thermodynamics is important:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

That video illustrates a means by which molecules self assemble.

If there is one video you should actually watch it is this one.

Remember, this is extremely important, and relates to what you said later:

J C wrote: »

To quote Kevin again ..."Science has not YET explained the emergence of the first peptides, however . . ."

The video shows a method by which polymers form.
(Remember, a peptide is the bond that links polymers!)

In case your basic bio/chem isn't up to scratch the video illustrates how
monomers form and monomers are the building blocks of polymers.
link

Wikipedia wrote:

"Insulin is a peptide hormone composed of 51 amino acids" link

Insulin is simply a specific stable arrangement of amino acids which,
as you've guessed, are made up of monomers and polymers.

"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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