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Hi girls can I make a suggestion?
The stress of this is unreal, I got some good advice from a friend yesterday. Try to take a night/ day/ one hour/ 30 mins/ 10 mins even away from all the PIP stuff and do something nice just for you (i stress just for you as I know what it's like when you have little ones in the house). Long bath/Walk/ Funny film/ Dinner out/ Lunch with pals (ban the topic till your finished your food trust me!)
I know it hard and believe me this if on my mind 24/7 too (my husband tells me I'm ranting in my sleep about it all) but I'm worried about you all and some of the mails/posts that I have gotten and seen show the pure stress we are all under. The stress of all this can be really damaging to your health/ mental health if you get no break from it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is even warriors such as all of us need a break too;) So please do something nice for yourselves this weekend (mine is a bar of chocolate that has been calling me since christmas and a catch up on some rubbish tv
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Just a suggestion hope it helps!
Hi Kyra
Just read the article you ladies done in the Indo, you all did us proud. My husband read it and I think it made him realise the situation we're all in so PG others will too. You all came across so well x0 -
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Hi girls can I make a suggestion?
The stress of this is unreal, I got some good advice from a friend yesterday. Try to take a night/ day/ one hour/ 30 mins/ 10 mins even away from all the PIP stuff and do something nice just for you (i stress just for you as I know what it's like when you have little ones in the house). Long bath/Walk/ Funny film/ Dinner out/ Lunch with pals (ban the topic till your finished your food trust me!)
I know it hard and believe me this if on my mind 24/7 too (my husband tells me I'm ranting in my sleep about it all) but I'm worried about you all and some of the mails/posts that I have gotten and seen show the pure stress we are all under. The stress of all this can be really damaging to your health/ mental health if you get no break from it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is even warriors such as all of us need a break too;) So please do something nice for yourselves this weekend (mine is a bar of chocolate that has been calling me since christmas and a catch up on some rubbish tv)
Just a suggestion hope it helps!
Hi Kyra
Just read the article you ladies done in the Indo, you all did us proud. My husband read it and I think it made him realise the situation we're all in so PG others will too. You all came across so well x
Oh it's today's Irish indo trip to local shop then,can't wait to read it:))0 -
Hi girls,
The interview some of use did is in the Irish Times Today it is called
"I trusted that I would be fitted with a safe implants that s not what I got"
The link to the petition is in the article too
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I really hope it helps and we can get further with the petition now. Thank you to the other girls for also speaking out, I hope we all reflected correctly what all of you out there are feeling each day, your fustrations and our requests as a group to the clinics involved.
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The article is also on line
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/0128/1224310854924.html
Out on bail: Jean-Claude Mas, founder of PIP, photographed after being arrested on a drink-driving offence in Costa Rica in 2010. Photograph: AP
In this section »
O'Connell Street, Ireland
More than just a Scottish question
Are we going out? I'll get my pyjamas
Up to 1,500 women in Ireland have breast implants made by the French firm PIP. Three of them tell PETER McGUIRE of the
worry, frustration and embarrassment they have experienced since problems with the implants were exposed
THE SILICONE WAS the type used in mattresses. Instead, it was put into breast implants, and these were put into women’s bodies. In Ireland, according to the Irish Medicines Board (IMB), up to 1,500 women who went for breast-enlargement operations were fitted with cheap, industrial-grade silicone implants made by the French firm Poly Implant Prothèse (PIP).
The suspect PIP implants were banned on safety grounds in France two years ago and have been removed from the market in several countries amid fears that they could rupture and leak silicone into the body. PIP was liquidated last year. On Thursday, its former director, Jean-Claude Mas, who is 72, was arrested in the south of France and placed under investigation on a criminal charge of causing bodily harm. He was released on €100,000 bail and is not allowed to leave France.
The PIP implants had received the CE – or European Conformity – mark, meaning they met the relevant EU safety requirements. But Mas has admitted to hiding from certification agencies for more than a decade the fact the company was using cheap, industrial silicone.
“Kyra” is a 31-year-old married mother of one, from Dublin, who works in residential care. Kyra is not her real name but a pseudonym she has used in online discussions. She had her breasts enlarged in 2006. The procedure was carried out by Harley Medical Group, using the PIP implants.
“I had never felt comfortable in my own skin,” she says. “I was constantly stuffing my bra, and using ‘chicken fillet’ bra inserts. I wanted to feel better about my self-image. It took me from an A-cup to a moderate C-cup. I picked a discreet surgeon who did natural-looking implants.”
Following a series of posts on boards.ielast week, Kyra received more than 30 messages, and has now set up an online petition, asking Minister for Health James Reilly to intervene on behalf of women carrying the PIP implants. She says Irish women have had to fight alone, without support from their clinics or from the Department of Health.
“The women are terrified of the effect this could have on their health. Nobody is asking the taxpayer to pay for any of this mess, but we want the cosmetic companies in Ireland to deal with this correctly. Women with these implants should be offered removal and replacement at no charge. In the long term, the industry needs stricter guidelines and regulations to stop this happening again.”
Debating the issue – with friends, with family or online – is difficult, says Kyra. She finds it frequently turns into an argument about the rights and wrongs of cosmetic surgery.
“I feel I’m constantly justifying myself. I’m asking people to park their personal opinions on cosmetic surgery. The issue is that the product is toxic, it didn’t deserve the quality mark it got, and the implants should be removed.”
Hence women with PIP implants have used online forums, particularly boards.ieand rollercoaster.ie, to communicate with each other. Comments have ranged from supportive to abusive. One person wrote that women who had breast implants were selfish and vain, and deserved to die of cancer.
Two more women with PIP implants who spoke to The Irish Times are reluctant to speak out publicly, and – like Kyra – will not be identified by their real names. “The surgery I had is so personal,” says “Marguerite”, a civil servant from Co Kildare, who is 38. “It was difficult enough to make the decision in the first place, without now having to tell the world about it. I live in a small rural community. I don’t ask anyone else’s business, and I would find it very humiliating to have everybody knowing mine. There’s a perception of extreme vanity and a fear that, if people know about it, they’ll judge your character on one aspect of your life.”
Three Irish clinics – the cosmetic-surgery unit at Clane General Hospital in Co Kildare, Harley Medical Group in Dublin and Shandon Street Hospital in Cork – are known to have used PIP implants. Shandon Street Hospital closed last year.
Marguerite’s operation was carried out at Clane General Hospital. She was examined this month and advised that her implants were intact. This week the hospital provided a follow-up scan, which confirmed that finding. If her implants had ruptured or were leaking, the hospital would remove and replace them without charge.
The PIP implants are more likely than other implants to rupture or leak in future, however, and Marguerite is worried that she will have to have, and pay for, regular scans. “It’s like paying top dollar for a faulty or dangerous product for your car, and being expected to drive around in it until something bad happens.”
THE WORRY WAS too much for “Jenny”, a 37-year-old retail manager who is originally from Latvia. Harley Medical Group operated on her in 2007, at a cost to her of €6,000.
She has already paid to have the implants removed and replaced. Last year, Jenny began to experience pain in her left breast, a possible side effect of breast augmentation, and became concerned. On January 9th this year she received an email from Harley Medical Group, informing her she may have PIP implants. After a series of phone calls and a visit to Harley Medical Group, she still felt frustrated. Harley told her on January 19th that she would have to wait until the end of February for a scan, she says. A scan by another doctor had revealed that her left breast contained excess fluid, but it was unclear whether it was leaking. “I was terrified,” she says. “I was drained, not sleeping, not eating. I couldn’t take it any more. I just wanted them out.”
Jenny borrowed money for surgery, and had her implants replaced by Cosmedico in Co Wicklow at a cost of €3,500. A spokesperson for Harley Medical Group declined to comment for this article.
In November 2010 Harley Medical Group told the IMB, which is responsible for the regulation of medical devices, that it had written to all its Irish patients who had PIP implants. It later admitted that it had not contacted the women; the IMB says it was misinformed by Harley Medical Group and that its instructions to the clinic were not followed. Harley Medical Group now says it will remove and replace PIP implants for women with a confirmed rupture within six years of implantation.
The IMB says there is no current evidence of particular health risks associated with PIP implants, and it has advised women to seek clinical advice from their implanting surgeon or GP. Dr Tony Holohan, the chief medical officer at the Department of Health, echoes this advice, and says no women in Ireland had the procedure carried out in a public hospital.
Sean Leyden, executive director of Clane General Hospital, says it is following the guidelines laid down by the IMB. “The problem here is these implants were CE-approved. If a hospital can’t rely on a CE cert, we may as well close our doors. But this was a clear-cut case of the CE certifiers being lied to; it was fraud.”
Avril Scally, a solicitor with the Dublin firm Lavelle Coleman, is representing a number of Irish clients with PIP implants. “Without full information from the hospitals, clinics, distributors and manufacturers, it is not possible to paint the full picture, but it is clear that the women at the very least will have claims for negligence and breach of duty on foot of defective product legislation, as well as possible claims for breach of contract,” says Scally.
“There’s a lot of giggling and judging going on about this,” says Kyra. “Women who have spoken out about this have been targeted with degrading comments; on one forum, I was told that I signed a consent form and knew what I was getting myself into.
“Yes, I knew the risks of any general anaesthetic, any procedure. I also knew I picked a good clinic and one of the best surgeons. I trusted that I would be fitted with an approved, safe product. That’s not what I got. I never knew for one minute that I was going to get an implant with a higher chance of rupturing and leaking, a toxic product that was made for industry, not human bodies.”
Kyra’s online petition is at iti.ms/zzB7Ui
For PIP implant information, contact the Irish Medicines Board on 01-6764971
Implants and impropriety: How the PIP scandal is playing out around the world
Up to 400,000 women in 65 countries are believed to been given breast implants made by PIP. Different governments have taken different positions, with disagreement about who should pay to remove the PIP implants and whether they must be removed in all cases. An EU expert group is due to report on the matter within the next fortnight.
A French expert committee has said that there is no increased risk of cancer for women with PIP implants compared to women with other breast implants. Along with Czech and German health authorities, however, France has advised that all women who have PIP implants should have them removed.
Brazilian health authorities have threatened to fine any private health plans that refuse to remove and replace the implants.
The department of health in the UK says there is not enough evidence to recommend routine removal of the implants, but it accepts that the implants are “made of non-medical grade silicone and should never have been implanted in women in the first place”. The NHS has offered to remove and replace the PIP implants for about 2,000 women whose surgery was carried out by the NHS.
Private patients can have the implants removed, but not replaced, on the NHS if their clinic has closed or refuses to remove them, provided there is a medical need. Crucially, however, the NHS says that women who are “extremely anxious” about their implants can also have them removed.0 -
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The article is also on line
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/0128/1224310854924.html
Out on bail: Jean-Claude Mas, founder of PIP, photographed after being arrested on a drink-driving offence in Costa Rica in 2010. Photograph: AP
In this section »
O'Connell Street, Ireland
More than just a Scottish question
Are we going out? I'll get my pyjamas
Up to 1,500 women in Ireland have breast implants made by the French firm PIP. Three of them tell PETER McGUIRE of the
worry, frustration and embarrassment they have experienced since problems with the implants were exposed
THE SILICONE WAS the type used in mattresses. Instead, it was put into breast implants, and these were put into women’s bodies. In Ireland, according to the Irish Medicines Board (IMB), up to 1,500 women who went for breast-enlargement operations were fitted with cheap, industrial-grade silicone implants made by the French firm Poly Implant Prothèse (PIP).
The suspect PIP implants were banned on safety grounds in France two years ago and have been removed from the market in several countries amid fears that they could rupture and leak silicone into the body. PIP was liquidated last year. On Thursday, its former director, Jean-Claude Mas, who is 72, was arrested in the south of France and placed under investigation on a criminal charge of causing bodily harm. He was released on €100,000 bail and is not allowed to leave France.
The PIP implants had received the CE – or European Conformity – mark, meaning they met the relevant EU safety requirements. But Mas has admitted to hiding from certification agencies for more than a decade the fact the company was using cheap, industrial silicone.
“Kyra” is a 31-year-old married mother of one, from Dublin, who works in residential care. Kyra is not her real name but a pseudonym she has used in online discussions. She had her breasts enlarged in 2006. The procedure was carried out by Harley Medical Group, using the PIP implants.
“I had never felt comfortable in my own skin,” she says. “I was constantly stuffing my bra, and using ‘chicken fillet’ bra inserts. I wanted to feel better about my self-image. It took me from an A-cup to a moderate C-cup. I picked a discreet surgeon who did natural-looking implants.”
Following a series of posts on boards.ielast week, Kyra received more than 30 messages, and has now set up an online petition, asking Minister for Health James Reilly to intervene on behalf of women carrying the PIP implants. She says Irish women have had to fight alone, without support from their clinics or from the Department of Health.
“The women are terrified of the effect this could have on their health. Nobody is asking the taxpayer to pay for any of this mess, but we want the cosmetic companies in Ireland to deal with this correctly. Women with these implants should be offered removal and replacement at no charge. In the long term, the industry needs stricter guidelines and regulations to stop this happening again.”
Debating the issue – with friends, with family or online – is difficult, says Kyra. She finds it frequently turns into an argument about the rights and wrongs of cosmetic surgery.
“I feel I’m constantly justifying myself. I’m asking people to park their personal opinions on cosmetic surgery. The issue is that the product is toxic, it didn’t deserve the quality mark it got, and the implants should be removed.”
Hence women with PIP implants have used online forums, particularly boards.ieand rollercoaster.ie, to communicate with each other. Comments have ranged from supportive to abusive. One person wrote that women who had breast implants were selfish and vain, and deserved to die of cancer.
Two more women with PIP implants who spoke to The Irish Times are reluctant to speak out publicly, and – like Kyra – will not be identified by their real names. “The surgery I had is so personal,” says “Marguerite”, a civil servant from Co Kildare, who is 38. “It was difficult enough to make the decision in the first place, without now having to tell the world about it. I live in a small rural community. I don’t ask anyone else’s business, and I would find it very humiliating to have everybody knowing mine. There’s a perception of extreme vanity and a fear that, if people know about it, they’ll judge your character on one aspect of your life.”
Three Irish clinics – the cosmetic-surgery unit at Clane General Hospital in Co Kildare, Harley Medical Group in Dublin and Shandon Street Hospital in Cork – are known to have used PIP implants. Shandon Street Hospital closed last year.
Marguerite’s operation was carried out at Clane General Hospital. She was examined this month and advised that her implants were intact. This week the hospital provided a follow-up scan, which confirmed that finding. If her implants had ruptured or were leaking, the hospital would remove and replace them without charge.
The PIP implants are more likely than other implants to rupture or leak in future, however, and Marguerite is worried that she will have to have, and pay for, regular scans. “It’s like paying top dollar for a faulty or dangerous product for your car, and being expected to drive around in it until something bad happens.”
THE WORRY WAS too much for “Jenny”, a 37-year-old retail manager who is originally from Latvia. Harley Medical Group operated on her in 2007, at a cost to her of €6,000.
She has already paid to have the implants removed and replaced. Last year, Jenny began to experience pain in her left breast, a possible side effect of breast augmentation, and became concerned. On January 9th this year she received an email from Harley Medical Group, informing her she may have PIP implants. After a series of phone calls and a visit to Harley Medical Group, she still felt frustrated. Harley told her on January 19th that she would have to wait until the end of February for a scan, she says. A scan by another doctor had revealed that her left breast contained excess fluid, but it was unclear whether it was leaking. “I was terrified,” she says. “I was drained, not sleeping, not eating. I couldn’t take it any more. I just wanted them out.”
Jenny borrowed money for surgery, and had her implants replaced by Cosmedico in Co Wicklow at a cost of €3,500. A spokesperson for Harley Medical Group declined to comment for this article.
In November 2010 Harley Medical Group told the IMB, which is responsible for the regulation of medical devices, that it had written to all its Irish patients who had PIP implants. It later admitted that it had not contacted the women; the IMB says it was misinformed by Harley Medical Group and that its instructions to the clinic were not followed. Harley Medical Group now says it will remove and replace PIP implants for women with a confirmed rupture within six years of implantation.
The IMB says there is no current evidence of particular health risks associated with PIP implants, and it has advised women to seek clinical advice from their implanting surgeon or GP. Dr Tony Holohan, the chief medical officer at the Department of Health, echoes this advice, and says no women in Ireland had the procedure carried out in a public hospital.
Sean Leyden, executive director of Clane General Hospital, says it is following the guidelines laid down by the IMB. “The problem here is these implants were CE-approved. If a hospital can’t rely on a CE cert, we may as well close our doors. But this was a clear-cut case of the CE certifiers being lied to; it was fraud.”
Avril Scally, a solicitor with the Dublin firm Lavelle Coleman, is representing a number of Irish clients with PIP implants. “Without full information from the hospitals, clinics, distributors and manufacturers, it is not possible to paint the full picture, but it is clear that the women at the very least will have claims for negligence and breach of duty on foot of defective product legislation, as well as possible claims for breach of contract,” says Scally.
“There’s a lot of giggling and judging going on about this,” says Kyra. “Women who have spoken out about this have been targeted with degrading comments; on one forum, I was told that I signed a consent form and knew what I was getting myself into.
“Yes, I knew the risks of any general anaesthetic, any procedure. I also knew I picked a good clinic and one of the best surgeons. I trusted that I would be fitted with an approved, safe product. That’s not what I got. I never knew for one minute that I was going to get an implant with a higher chance of rupturing and leaking, a toxic product that was made for industry, not human bodies.”
Kyra’s online petition is at iti.ms/zzB7Ui
For PIP implant information, contact the Irish Medicines Board on 01-6764971
Implants and impropriety: How the PIP scandal is playing out around the world
Up to 400,000 women in 65 countries are believed to been given breast implants made by PIP. Different governments have taken different positions, with disagreement about who should pay to remove the PIP implants and whether they must be removed in all cases. An EU expert group is due to report on the matter within the next fortnight.
A French expert committee has said that there is no increased risk of cancer for women with PIP implants compared to women with other breast implants. Along with Czech and German health authorities, however, France has advised that all women who have PIP implants should have them removed.
Brazilian health authorities have threatened to fine any private health plans that refuse to remove and replace the implants.
The department of health in the UK says there is not enough evidence to recommend routine removal of the implants, but it accepts that the implants are “made of non-medical grade silicone and should never have been implanted in women in the first place”. The NHS has offered to remove and replace the PIP implants for about 2,000 women whose surgery was carried out by the NHS.
Private patients can have the implants removed, but not replaced, on the NHS if their clinic has closed or refuses to remove them, provided there is a medical need. Crucially, however, the NHS says that women who are “extremely anxious” about their implants can also have them removed.
It makes me so angry when I hear tht IMB keep sayin B****T that there is no current evidence of particular health risks associated with PIP implants, and it has advised women to seek clinical advice from their implanting surgeon or GP. Dr Tony Holohan, the chief medical officer at the Department of Health, echoes this advice, and says no women in Ireland had the procedure carried out in a public hospital.
Why they making this excuse there is already enough of evidence
THE SILICONE WAS the type used in mattresses. Instead, it was put into breast implants, and these were put into women’s bodies.Are they telling us its ok to have those implants ,its a crime to even say that !!!!AND ITS ENOUGH OF EVIDENCE !!!How would they feel if their daughters would carry them around or son I know 1kg of this crap was at cost 41.50 euro .... IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY THEY MADE MONEY OUT OF US !!!! I please God everyday that they get what they deserve I really hope that day comes soon !!!! I am soooo angry !!! I was Jenny from Latvia in Irish News .My heart goes out to you girls and I am reading your stories and so wish to help you ..... If I could just win a lotto !! Hope there is some positiveness on the way ...Hope they will realize how wrong they are !!! I am thinking of you all !!!!0 -
Marguerite1 wrote: »Saranna & Sherbett,
I'm <snip> too with no rupture. I can understand why you're going ahead at €1,800 but I will be fighting (I hate that word, but you know what I mean) to have the right thing done for free.
I'm wondering with Mas having been arrested y'day and a possible charge of manslaughter hanging over him, if things will progress in a good way for us victims.
Hiya Girls,
Yes we're all in the one crappy boat it seems, The <snip> Boat! I've no ruptures also, and feel exactly the same way you all do, I want these PIPS out now. I can understand how you want them out yesterday believe me, but in principal we should not have to fork out for their wrong doing to us. I for one, don't have the money right now to get them out, and even if I did, I don't think I'd be going with <snip>'s replacement implants, i.e. the brand of Eurosilicone breast implants.
I put up an article there mid to late last week about Eurosilicone (just right click your mouse on my username, and select view more posts and you'll see the link, then open and read it). The present Director of the company Eurosilicone has allegations against him already with dodgy dealings regarding breast implants. I for one could not trust this product after reading the article. French manufacturer again, no way could I tempt fate again.
I personally think FDA approved implants are the way to go. Look at the States, they've no PIP problems. They've already gone through the whole breast implant scandal back in the late 80's or early 90's it was. Their regulatory authority (FDA) have much more stricter guidelines regarding medical devices, quality control checks on manufacturing facilities etc. This crowd go all the way and are top of their game, and put the Irish Medical Board to shame.
I will also be fighting to get them done at no charge to myself or anyone else. And I'll be telling "him" where to stick Eurosilicone and I won't be polite either about it. How dare he suggest we pay more money, how dare he suggest another inferior product, how dare he treat us like this. :mad: Rant over.
Look we all need to stick together, to support each other the way we have been. God bless boards for bringing us all together. Now we should be focusing on getting our petition "viral" on the internet, we haven't had a great response so far, we need those little hundreds to turn into thousands. So what I'm asking you all to do it forward the petition by email to everyone in your address book (you don't have to tell them your business but maybe suggest you know a close friend or family member going through this ordeal) and get them to sign it and pass it on. And keep the pressure on.
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Hi ladies,
I had implants and uplift done 2005 <snip> in <snip>, I have PIP!!
It took so much for me to get the courage to make the decision to have this surgery...and now this,Im so worried..I have been to my GP and she is sending me for a mammogram in 3wks time. Iv been looking at alot of your posts and it seems to me you all had MRI done.. Im scared that the mammogram will do further damage, it is supposed to be quiet painful and rough having it done, not good for PIP ladies!!!! <snip> wont see me without a radiographers report, see if there is a rupture??? Dont really know what to do next, any advice will be greatfully recieved.My husband and I are the only ones who know about my implants, my family just wouldnt understand..Another thing is alot of women are getting them removed and not replaced, I had no breast tissue left after having four kids, and then with the scars I have already from the lift, god...I can imagine how Id look with the implants taken out...and not replaced
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Hi ladies,
I had implants and uplift done 2005 <snip>, I have PIP!!
It took so much for me to get the courage to make the decision to have this surgery...and now this,Im so worried..I have been to my GP and she is sending me for a mammogram in 3wks time. Iv been looking at alot of your posts and it seems to me you all had MRI done.. Im scared that the mammogram will do further damage, it is supposed to be quiet painful and rough having it done, not good for PIP ladies!!!! <snip> wont see me without a radiographers report, see if there is a rupture??? Dont really know what to do next, any advice will be greatfully recieved.My husband and I are the only ones who know about my implants, my family just wouldnt understand..Another thing is alot of women are getting them removed and not replaced, I had no breast tissue left after having four kids, and then with the scars I have already from the lift, god...I can imagine how Id look with the implants taken out...and not replaced(((( very worrying time.
As I said to Upset Lady, a mammogram is not recommended to check the integrity of breast implants, ask your GP to refer you for a breast MRI instead. If you are outside of Dublin, the only place my GP could find to do one (I live in Limerick), was the Galway Clinic. Your health insurance might cover it if you have any (the MRI dept. can tell you this over the phone anyway), otherwise you will unfortunately have to pay for it (around €300).
It is not reasonable for <snip> to only cover the removal of your implants and not their replacement just because you are one year outside their remove and replace offer. Get in touch with a solicitor as soon as you can and have a chat with them to see how you should proceed.0 -
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Hi DD14,
<snip> are not offering free scans nor will they arrange one for you. You will need to ask your GP to refer you for a breast MRI. Not every MRI dept. does them but <snip> does if you are outside Dublin. A couple of places in Dublin as well (read through the thread). If you have a confirmed rupture, then <snip> will arrange an appointment for you, otherwise you are wasting your time trying to contact them as they will just keep telling you there is no problem with your implants unless they are ruptured.
A lot of us with <snip> have contacted Lavell Coleman solicitors and it might be worth your while speaking to them.
The important thing is not to panic and try not to read all the PIP rupture stories on the net - whether they are true or not, they will frighten the crap out of you and will not be good for your mental health 0 -
evergreen girl wrote: »Well I have finally found out for definite that I have PIPs. Had been sent my medical records last Friday by <snip> but as there was no cover letter or note from them advising me if I had PIP implants or where to find the information in the records, I couldn't find where it said I had PIPs (31 pages to go through so not that easy to find!).
Anyways for anyone else searching through their records and having as much difficulty as me
, look for the "Operation" sheet and in the very top corner, there should be a REF and Lot number for both implants and under this it says in small writing "P.I.P. - La Seyne Sur Mer - France", which I guess is confirmation that the implants I received are PIP.
Have app with surgeon from a different clinic tomorrow and hoping he can tell me that they are not ruptured by feeling them as my mri app is not till 7th Feb and would love some reassurance before then, esp as I breastfed my baby girl up until I heard I might have PIPs and I'm really worried about the effect any leaking gel might have had on her, so would be great to know that they aren't ruptured even if that means I have to pay myself to have them replaced.
By the way, Kyra, you are really doing great work. Know I haven't posted much but have been reading this thread every day and it's been a great help.
Hi Evergreen girl,
I had implants done at <snip> 2005(<snip>).. I recieved my med records too, I cant see any mention of PIP on mine.there is a section for make/model and it has a scibbled word allright(doctors writing) But definitly does not say PIP???? I have apt to see breast surgeon at matter hosp( GP refferal) 2 wks time...hopefully it goes well!!0 -
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