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Recommend me a german beer

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Cheapest place to buy one of these glasses?

    you might get one for free at an off licence, i got most of my beer glasses that way….just ask...otherwise they can be bought online or at arnott’s or so…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    A great example in my opinion of Weizenbock, strong, dark Weizen would be Schneider Aventinus.

    Lovely beer to take it slow with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Photo-Sniper


    Rothaus Hefeweizen is the best german beer in my opinion.

    Drink German beer everyday and my local pub has it on tap at the moment {1.99 a pint may I add}.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    So what is it that makes world craft and german beer superior to the beer enthusiasts rather than the typical budwiser, carlsberg, Heineken?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭p


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Spaten is nice you can get it in Aldi. I also like the Shöfferhofer weizen as well.

    Ahhh Spaten - the lowest of the Munich breweries.

    We did a blind taste test in work with all the Munich beers and every single person rated Spaten the lowest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Perlenbacher will sweeten the tongue nerves and enlighten your taste-buds immensely without doubt. Spaten is akin to spittin it out forwarding it to the toilet in my opinion. The purity control regarding German beer is above reproach. Your best bet imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    So what is it that makes world craft and german beer superior to the beer enthusiasts rather than the typical budwiser, carlsberg, Heineken?

    the thing with german beer is that that all decent german breweries still pretty much adhere to the 1516 bavarian purity law - as a question of honour like - which is no longer law as such but has certainly done a lot for german beer culture and helped keep brewing standards pretty high throughout german lands...though there are black sheep among german breweries and there is crappy beer in germany too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    p wrote: »
    Ahhh Spaten - the lowest of the Munich breweries.

    We did a blind taste test in work with all the Munich beers and every single person rated Spaten the lowest.

    Ah yeah sure there are nicer out there but at less than €2 a bottle I would much rather have this over other mass produced Heineken, carlsberg etc.

    I lived in Germany for a while and whereas there are undoubtly world class beers there, where I lived (Karlsruhe) wasn't a great beer region - local offerings of Monninger and Wolf Bräu left a lot to gr desired imo.

    My own favourite is Rathaus pils - available in molloys. A lovely refreshing pils.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    the thing with german beer is that that all decent german breweries still pretty much adhere to the 1516 bavarian purity law - as a question of honour like - which is no longer law as such but has certainly done a lot for german beer culture and helped keep brewing standards pretty high throughout german lands...though there are black sheep among german breweries and there is crappy beer in germany too...

    I think there's a bit of a general misconception about the German purity law. The law places restrictions on the ingredients that can be used in the brewing process, this absolutely does not guarantee in any way a better or superior tasting beer.

    There is plenty of crap German beer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    slayerking wrote: »
    I think there's a bit of a general misconception about the German purity law. The law places restrictions on the ingredients that can be used in the brewing process, this absolutely does not guarantee in any way a better or superior tasting beer.

    There is plenty of crap German beer.

    of course it does not guarantee great taste, nobody ever claimed that. yet it does (when observed) guarantee the absence of chemical additives, preservatives etc. which in itself is a good thing...and it is part of an old and proud brewing tradition in bavaria and the rest of (old) germany...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    it does (when observed) guarantee the absence of chemical additives, preservatives etc. which in itself is a good thing...and it is part of an old and proud brewing tradition in bavaria and the rest of (old) germany...
    It also killed off lots of local German beer styles and made it difficult to find a beer in Germany that isn't pale lager, dark lager or weissbier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    of course it does not guarantee great taste, nobody ever claimed that. yet it does (when observed) guarantee the absence of chemical additives, preservatives etc. which in itself is a good thing...and it is part of an old and proud brewing tradition in bavaria and the rest of (old) germany...

    It doesn't even guarantee this. The law itself doesn't even include yeast as it pre-dates the discovery of yeast as a vital part of the brewing process. In fact, wheat beers are technically forbidden from the law (they contain wheat, only malted barley is permitted).
    The ingredient water, in itself, is the main ingredient in beer and also a complex chemistry. You better believe German brewers are adding minerals and 'additives' to this to ensure they hit things like mash pH's and water profiles to hit the flavour profile they desire. Water is still technically water even when you add chemicals to it.
    I also find it interesting that many German beers list hop extract as an ingredient - not even using hops, surely that's cheating!

    When a beer states that it obides by the Reinheitsgebot, its really just because they want to make people believe they beer is 'pure'.

    The reason German beer (or any beer) is good is because of the skill of the brewer, of which Germany has many.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    BeerNut wrote: »
    It also killed off lots of local German beer styles and made it difficult to find a beer in Germany that isn't pale lager, dark lager or weissbier.


    you are of course right in that strict observation does limit the scope of experimentation and variety in german brewing...like you cannot use strawberries and stuff like that, but we have the belgians for that sort of thing anyway...and good beer has been made of rice and other stuff, too...interestingly, a number of those international beers (e.g. tsingtao) have their origins in german brewing as well...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    slayerking wrote: »
    It doesn't even guarantee this. The law itself doesn't even include yeast as it pre-dates the discovery of yeast as a vital part of the brewing process. In fact, wheat beers are technically forbidden from the law (they contain wheat, only malted barley is permitted).
    The ingredient water, in itself, is the main ingredient in beer and also a complex chemistry. You better believe German brewers are adding minerals and 'additives' to this to ensure they hit things like mash pH's and water profiles to hit the flavour profile they desire. Water is still technically water even when you add chemicals to it.
    I also find it interesting that many German beers list hop extract as an ingredient - not even using hops, surely that's cheating!

    When a beer states that it obides by the Reinheitsgebot, its really just because they want to make people believe they beer is 'pure'.

    The reason German beer (or any beer) is good is because of the skill of the brewer, of which Germany has many.

    think you better stick to your dutch gold...cheaper too...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    think you better stick to your dutch gold...cheaper too...

    Not a chance mate though its probably as good as if not better than some Reinheitsgebot brewed German beer.
    I'll stick to my craft beer, preferably Irish and have an odd German one every now and again for kicks.

    To keep on topic, OP if you want to try a fun German beer, look up one called Schlenkerla Marzen. Its a smoked beer. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    slayerking wrote: »
    Not a chance mate though its probably as good as if not better than some Reinheitsgebot brewed German beer.
    I'll stick to my craft beer, preferably Irish and have an odd German one every now and again for kicks.

    To keep on topic, OP if you want to try a fun German beer, look up one called Schlenkerla Marzen. Its a smoked beer. :)

    yeah sorry, was a slightly snide comment and as such unnecessary...wouldn’t accuse anyone of being a dutch gold drinker anyway...
    i too really like some irish (and scottish and other) craft brews...though the word “craft” seems to be used almost like a synonym for special quality nowadays, in marketing and all, which can be a tad misleading...yet that’s a different discussion altogether...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    BeerNut wrote: »
    It also killed off lots of local German beer styles and made it difficult to find a beer in Germany that isn't pale lager, dark lager or weissbier.

    Yes, you really notice it's 90% lager. Some of it is fantastic, but at least in Ireland if you want to drink different styles it's not too hard to do.

    I was lucky enough to be living near the Gose breweries. Spent a few hot summer days in the beer garden at the Bayerischer Bahnhof brewery sipping cold, fresh gose. That's a beer you should get your hands on if you want to try something different, OP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭blueshed


    Alt Biers if you can find them are very good.

    anybody know where Altbiers can be bought in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    24 big bottles of Hofbrau just arrived at my door! That's the next few days taken care of now! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Perlenbacher is the way to go, ye just can't beat the taste of this beautiful beer. You want good pils beer, here ye go. Quality at it's best. In Lidl stores €7.29 the last I checked for 6 500ml bottles.

    Perlenbacher_zps5ceac48c.png~original

    Why did no1 warn me about this piss water :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Why did no1 warn me that this stuff was piss water :(

    well, sorry…it is contract-brewed for lidl by some brewery, so not really quality german beer by any normal standards...


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Well i have tasted 5 or 6 german brews since my first post and I think we have a winner

    weihenstephaner. Just beautiful, went down so well.

    And yet the most expensive at 3.20 a bottle sadly it will be the last time I buy this but it was dam tasty booze. I think no matter how good any of them are, ill only at best afford the Erdinger pack from tesco at 2.50 a bottle. The other stuff is just too expensive any nearly the same price as a pint in a pub


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin


    Well i have tasted 5 or 6 german brews since my first post and I think we have a winner

    weihenstephaner. Just beautiful, went down so well.

    And yet the most expensive at 3.20 a bottle sadly it will be the last time I buy this but it was dam tasty booze. I think no matter how good any of them are, ill only at best afford the Erdinger pack from tesco at 2.50 a bottle. The other stuff is just too expensive any nearly the same price as a pint in a pub

    Spaten at 1.79 a bottle?

    Don't mind the clowns badmouthing it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Spaten at 1.79 a bottle?

    Don't mind the clowns badmouthing it.

    Didn't try it yet as it got bad reviews here but its on tap in the pub im going new years eve that and paulener so ill be sure to give it a try


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin


    its on tap in the pub im going new years eve

    Where would that be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Where would that be?

    Sorry not necessarily on tap, its just on their beer menu i looked up in advance. The place is called "the cock n bull" cant throw in a link as im using my phone


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin


    It'll be bottles so.

    You're probably better off waiting for the next time your in Aldi, instead of paying 6 quid a bottle.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Nothing wrong with Spaten tbf, sure some of the local competition is better but its well priced and still much better than most of what we get dished up over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Niall_daaS


    As a German I enjoyed reading this thread (ok, not every single word but most of it) and it is really interesting how people from outside Germany see German beer.

    It's true Germany comes from a very long history of brewing with countless little breweries mostly in the southern parts like Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bavaria and big famous players of which many where mentioned in your posts. Also some towns are famous for a brewing tradition like Cologne for the Koelsch or Duesseldorf (and surroundings) for the Alt or Dortmund for the Dortmunder Export. Btw selling Alt is not restricted to an area. You could find it in larger stores probably over most parts of Germany.

    I also agree with the one of you saying that the Reinheitsgebot (purity law) doesn't make a beer a good beer. There are crappy beers spreaded all over the country. And nowadays most popular beers are hardly do be divided by taste. Many people here in Germany buy 'their' local beer, but in the end it's all Radeberger (=Dr Oetker) or a similiar industrial big player. A good example to show the historical development is my hometown Dortmund. Not so many people know that Dortmund was in the mid 90s the 2nd biggest place for beer in the world, famous for its special variety called Export. There were like 10 different breweries all over the city. All that remains today are the brands of which most are still alive - and they all belong to Dr Oetker and are brewed in the same brewery at Dortmunder Actien Brauerei. So if you enjoy a Dortmunder Kronen, a Stifts or a Brinkhoff's - it might taste different (surely it does), but the differences are more marketing, not caused by the art of brewing. And this phenomena is to be found all over the country and probably you could referr a story like this to most beers you guys mentioned before. That's why most popular beers are tasting the same. If you buy a Warsteiner or a Krombacher doesn't really matter. If you drink Paulaner or Hofbraeu is not really important.

    Anyway Germany still is a place of big choice for the beer lover. From dark beers, smoked beers, Pils, Export, Alt, Koelsch, White, you could start today and get a different beer each day for the next couple of years. And if I have to choose from Heineken, Bud or a German Pils I definitly would choose the German one. Not for patriotic reasons, but for the taste. Somebody mentioned the body of a beer in his description - most German beers do have one. To me Heineken is like water with a beerly flavour. It's ok, but...you know?

    Hope some of you found it interesting reading the pov of a German on this topic! Cheers mates! :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭braddun


    look for 21% one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    21% what? Dunkel, hell, alt, other? Why do you specifically recommend one so strong? What particular 21% beer have you tried?


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Where did the myth come from about german beer not giving severe hangovers, erdinger gave me one of the worst ever! I had 4 bottles of franiskaner two different days and the next day the head was a bit rough. Love the taste and will continue to drink it but its possible I actually got less of a hangover on other non german stuff


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Where did the myth come from about german beer not giving severe hangovers, erdinger gave me one of the worst ever! I had 4 bottles of franiskaner two different days and the next day the head was a bit rough. Love the taste and will continue to drink it but its possible I actually got less of a hangover on other non german stuff


    yeah weissbier tends to give nasty headaches, that lies in the nature of the stuff, top fermented and all…some fermentation by-products are to blame afaik…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    Where did the myth come from about german beer not giving severe hangovers, erdinger gave me one of the worst ever! I had 4 bottles of franiskaner two different days and the next day the head was a bit rough. Love the taste and will continue to drink it but its possible I actually got less of a hangover on other non german stuff

    I think its some of the lighter pils that it applies to.

    When I drink Erdinger in rounds on a proper session it can give me black outs never mind hangovers when im into double figures!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Niall_daaS


    Trond wrote: »
    I think its some of the lighter pils that it applies to.

    I don't think it really depends on the type of beer. There might be differences, but I guess it's rather about what you eat & drink beside than the beer itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Niall_daaS wrote: »
    I don't think it really depends on the type of beer. There might be differences, but I guess it's rather about what you eat & drink beside than the beer itself.

    And mostly, how much you drink and its strength.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Ah feck the wheat beer anyway.. Love the taste but 4 bottles and ive a pounding headache the next day, Erdinger.. Fransizkaner.. Paulener.. Kill me!

    Im able to have 5 maybe 6 pints of carlsberg and dodge the headaches but that wheat beer gets me everytime now without fail. May have to revert back when im planning on drinking more than 4 pints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Curry Addict


    Well i have tasted 5 or 6 german brews since my first post and I think we have a winner

    weihenstephaner. Just beautiful, went down so well.

    And yet the most expensive at 3.20 a bottle sadly it will be the last time I buy this but it was dam tasty booze. I think no matter how good any of them are, ill only at best afford the Erdinger pack from tesco at 2.50 a bottle. The other stuff is just too expensive any nearly the same price as a pint in a pub

    I used to order beer from german websites and get cases of augustiner helles shipped over. It worked out around €2 a bottle all inclusive when ordering a certain amount. I havent done it in about 5 years so i cant make a recommendation.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    The thing about a lot of German beers is they're normally over 5% so if you have 4 or 5, it's the equivalent of having a few more regular session strength beers (4.3%).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭a_non_a_mouse


    Why did no1 warn me about this piss water :(

    yeah, in a moment of weakness I picked up a 6 pack of Perlenbacher Premium Pils over the holidays in Lidl
    Had 1 bottle, the rest are still in the fridge, can't imaging drinking them unless mixed with some lemonade while waiting for pay day....


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    yeah, in a moment of weakness I picked up a 6 pack of Perlenbacher Premium Pils over the holidays in Lidl
    Had 1 bottle, the rest are still in the fridge, can't imaging drinking them unless mixed with some lemonade while waiting for pay day....

    I still have my 5 bottles left.. Keep them sure if your ever having a session an someone is stuck fora few beers.. Serve it ice cold aswel to help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    My stash of Augustiner Hells ran out over the Christmas period after being a bit too generous handing them out to family and friends and had to make a visit to Dunnes to stock up. Wasn't much there when I went over(Would usually pick up Spaten if its on offer). Ended up with a a crate of Miller. All I can say is I'm ruined, will never drink another Heineken or Miller again. Number one Priority is replenishing the stash!


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    _Puma_ wrote: »
    My stash of Augustiner Hells ran out over the Christmas period after being a bit too generous handing them out to family and friends and had to make a visit to Dunnes to stock up. Wasn't much there when I went over(Would usually pick up Spaten if its on offer). Ended up with a a crate of Miller. All I can say is I'm ruined, will never drink another Heineken or Miller again. Number one Priority is replenishing the stash!

    Augustiner Hells too expensive for my wallet. I think I seen a bottle of that stuff for 4 euro in sweeneys and id never give one away if I had some haha franziskaner in lidl is my best bet.. And if treated myself to the Augustiner stuff id find it hard to go back to my usual

    I hear ya on the miller, hieny however ill be resorting back to carlsberg when im going on a long session as I find even a few bottles of wheat beer killss me the next day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Niall_daaS


    I wonder how you guys see those German beer mixtures. Since I was young I remember people drinking pils mixed with coke, fanta or sprite (called Pils-Cola, Alsterwasser and Radler) and Alt with coke (Krefelder) and White with banana juice. The last say 10 yrs this got a little bit out of control and you can buy beer mixed with everything. I'd say here in Gemany in a regular shop the department of mixed beers is as big as the depart of pures. I never saw someone mixing beer with anything in Ireland so far. Does that ever happen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Niall_daaS wrote: »
    I wonder how you guys see those German beer mixtures. Since I was young I remember people drinking pils mixed with coke, fanta or sprite (called Pils-Cola, Alsterwasser and Radler) and Alt with coke (Krefelder) and White with banana juice. The last say 10 yrs this got a little bit out of control and you can buy beer mixed with everything. I'd say here in Gemany in a regular shop the department of mixed beers is as big as the depart of pures. I never saw someone mixing beer with anything in Ireland so far. Does that ever happen?

    I liked radlers when I was in Germany - lovely on a hot summers day.

    I suppose a shandy (half beer, half lemonade) is the closest here - available in a pub. Not sure if any on sale in shops that are premixed. There might be one or two that others know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    I liked radlers when I was in Germany - lovely on a hot summers day.

    I suppose a shandy (half beer, half lemonade) is the closest here - available in a pub. Not sure if any on sale in shops that are premixed. There might be one or two that others know.

    I used to love cans of Club Shandy as a kid.
    Afair it had a very small percentage alcohol in it but was legally considered alcohol free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    had some andechser (andechs vollbier hell) last night…great stuff as always, up there with augustiner imo…


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    had some andechser (andechs vollbier hell) last night…great stuff as always, up there with augustiner imo…

    Had a bottle of that the other night for the first time. Very impressed with it, I'll definitely be buying it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Niall_daaS


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    I liked radlers when I was in Germany - lovely on a hot summers day.

    It is really more refreshing (maybe that's where the name is from). And we used it when hungover to get in the mood again. Gives you an easier start to another drinking session.


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