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Yamakasi Catleap monitor club.

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    this. so much this.

    seriously, the most understated point of these monitors.

    everyone shies away from it when I mention the dullness of the u2312hm, but it's so true. im spoilt in that i don't have a window behind me, but glossy makes colour come alive. most people don't realise what they're missing cause everything is matte anyway. it's a shame what they're missing.

    edit: to visualise it, put some Vaseline on your glasses. that's matte.

    I dunno, the colours,vibrancy on my U2412 is better than the catleap and its a matte finish.
    When both are turned off you can see the difference alright and the U2412 looks more dull but when powered on the U2412 looks more alive, a lot more vibrant.
    I wonder does the U2412 have a semi matte screen maybe? and the U23 full matte?

    Just reading some more it seems the contrast ratio might be whats making the difference and why the U2312HM looks dull compared to the catleap but for me the Catleap looks dull compared to my U2412M.

    According to TFT centrals reviews the U2312HM has an average contrast ratio of 848-1 where as the U2412M has 1139-1.

    Im far from and expert so any of the above may well mean feck all lol but it might go some way in explaining why the U2312HM looks dull to the catleap for tea bag and why the catleap looks dull to me compared to my U2412M, jaysus im not good with figures and comparisons right in the middle of the xmas holidays :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Dcully wrote: »
    I dunno, the colours,vibrancy on my U2412 is better than the catleap and its a matte finish.
    When both are turned off you can see the difference alright and the U2412 looks more dull but when powered on the U2412 looks more alive, a lot more vibrant.
    I wonder does the U2412 have a semi matte screen maybe? and the U23 full matte?
    I've honestly never seen the u24, but I don't think it'd be very different.

    not to doubt you, but are you sure the brightness settings were similar?

    I just don't see how matte can compare to glossy, even on the same screen.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    I've honestly never seen the u24, but I don't think it'd be very different.

    not to doubt you, but are you sure the brightness settings were similar?

    I just don't see how matte can compare to glossy, even on the same screen.


    Yeah mate, i put brightness and contrast up full on the U24 and brightness on the catleap, the other buttons to left of brightness done nothing.
    Same settings for both monitors in nvidia control panel again as above purely for comparisons.

    Just to be sure i got the missus, my son and two friends to check them out side by side and all agreed the U2412M was more alive than the catleap in terms of colours/vibrancy.

    see above mate where i edited in some contrast ratio results from TFT central, could make a big difference? again im no expert :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    well if everyone agreed, I guess the u24 must be better than the u23.

    I can tell a huge difference between 19*12 vs 25*14 though. maybe it's cause I work in Excel and word, but I'm much more preductive on the higher.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    well if everyone agreed, I guess the u24 must be better than the u23.

    I can tell a huge difference between 19*12 vs 25*14 though. maybe it's cause I work in Excel and word, but I'm much more preductive on the higher.
    Isn't the U23 1920x1080 native ? I'm not at PC at the moment so can't check.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I think it is yeah cos I use it in work and seem to recall that was the res.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    u23 is 1920x1080 u24 is 1920x1200.

    u23 is one dpi higher :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    correct. I was more referring to 2560 vs 1920 though. the fact I can view 2 perfectly acceptable workbooks next to each other is of massive benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pixel-Perfect-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-Quad-HD-2560x1440-DVI-Free-shipping-/221120082842?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item337bc8b39a#ht_9047wt_1111

    worth a punt @ €290?

    hmmmmm, input appreciated. have read entire thread and done some googling but still undecided!


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Finally cleared the being asked questions stage, hopefully the monitor will ship in the next day or 2, was hoping to get this while i'm off work for Christmas but will probably be January now. Guess a trip to Finglas will be in order.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    jive wrote: »
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pixel-Perfect-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-Quad-HD-2560x1440-DVI-Free-shipping-/221120082842?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item337bc8b39a#ht_9047wt_1111

    worth a punt @ €290?

    hmmmmm, input appreciated. have read entire thread and done some googling but still undecided!
    Posted a similar one recently for 350 dolla


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Posted a similar one recently for 350 dolla

    got a link or is she gone?! Perfect pixel for €290 seems a good enough deal though. Tis harsh on the brain trawling through all the top rated sellers items!

    Edit:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-LED-Quad-HD-DVI-2560x1440-16-9-6ms-PC-Monitor-/110833856200?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce366ec8 this one I see!

    I think I'll pay the extra 25 or so for the perfect pixel thing. I'm just going to assume that the ones that aren't perfect pixel they sell on as the non-tested monitors. A few pixels are probably unnoticeable but for €25 I think I'll take the chance of getting a perfect monitor (unlikely but worth the squeeze i think)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    jive wrote: »
    got a link or is she gone?! Perfect pixel for €290 seems a good enough deal though. Tis harsh on the brain trawling through all the top rated sellers items!

    Edit:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-LED-Quad-HD-DVI-2560x1440-16-9-6ms-PC-Monitor-/110833856200?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce366ec8 this one I see!

    I think I'll pay the extra 25 or so for the perfect pixel thing. I'm just going to assume that the ones that aren't perfect pixel they sell on as the non-tested monitors. A few pixels are probably unnoticeable but for €25 I think I'll take the chance of getting a perfect monitor (unlikely but worth the squeeze i think)


    Dont quote me but i think someone mentioned in this thread or could be another forum that the pixel perfect thingy is a waste of money,i dont recall why however but just remember reading it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Squeaky the Squirrel


    Dcully wrote: »
    Dont quote me but i think someone mentioned in this thread or could be another forum that the pixel perfect thingy is a waste of money,i dont recall why however but just remember reading it.
    20 stuck pixels is still classed as perfect. Or maybe it was 15.

    Too many anyway.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    jive wrote: »

    got a link or is she gone?! Perfect pixel for €290 seems a good enough deal though. Tis harsh on the brain trawling through all the top rated sellers items!

    Edit:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-LED-Quad-HD-DVI-2560x1440-16-9-6ms-PC-Monitor-/110833856200?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce366ec8 this one I see!

    I think I'll pay the extra 25 or so for the perfect pixel thing. I'm just going to assume that the ones that aren't perfect pixel they sell on as the non-tested monitors. A few pixels are probably unnoticeable but for €25 I think I'll take the chance of getting a perfect monitor (unlikely but worth the squeeze i think)
    AFAIK there is no difference, you can still get dead ones, better off with the cheaper 1/5 dead pixels policy, a lot of people get no dead ones anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    AFAIK there is no difference, you can still get dead ones, better off with the cheaper 1/5 dead pixels policy, a lot of people get no dead ones anyway

    Cool I'll go for the cheaper one then. Thanks for the advice folks


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I'll probably end up getting the same one, let me know how it goes. I emailed the seller, if 10 people buy together they give a discount, he is getting back to me on price. Probably can't organise that many but just seeing is there much off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Will do if I take the plunge. Will be another week yet though as I'll have to get the funds into paypal and I'm away over the next few days. If you get anywhere close to 10 give me a shout and I'll see if I can scrape a few more... 10 is some number to get for a discount though ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭platinums


    from reading the reactions to this monitor I'm well and truly sold on one, 27 inches and amazing res I'll finally have a decent monitor again. I currently have a 10 year old Dell 1903FP @1280x1024 which is amazing in itself that it still works but was the best available at the time.

    Some of you haven't had that many dead pixels but im worried my luck will be as it usually is and ill end up with the full amount of allowed dead pixels. Considering the screen has soo many pixels though, are the dead ones really noticeable to the naked eye?

    Also the price seems to have steadily been on the rise since they were released has anyone got any recommendations of where to purchase?
    Its clear Big Cloth Craft and Green Sum are the most reliable but just looking on ebay there I see they have about 40 variants between them.
    To narrow it down;
    Don't want tempered Glass
    Don't mind speakers included or not as they wont be used,
    Don't want to plug my phone into the screen (MHL)
    Don't really need it to Pivot. (-P variants)
    Matte - have seen glossy screens in well lit rooms tend to relfect too much light and obstruct the screen
    So this leaves about 10 I'd say.

    So out of Crossover, Catleap, Shimian, Qnix then.

    Red-Cap Sells Shimian, seems to be the only one on offer that is Matte, also has No Dead-Pixel and €355 Here

    BigCLoth Sells Crossover, is Glossy, has max 5 dead pixels, €279 Here

    I'm tempted to go with the Crossover because of the apparent better build quality.
    Any help on this is greatly appreciated.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    One thing to look at is the delivery charges some listings have the same monitor listed multiple times sometimes the delivery is included but the original price is more. When I ordered mine I ordered the slightly more expensive version but with free delivery. It worked out cheaper than the pay delivery separately version.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    platinums wrote: »
    from reading the reactions to this monitor I'm well and truly sold on one, 27 inches and amazing res I'll finally have a decent monitor again. I currently have a 10 year old Dell 1903FP @1280x1024 which is amazing in itself that it still works but was the best available at the time.

    Some of you haven't had that many dead pixels but im worried my luck will be as it usually is and ill end up with the full amount of allowed dead pixels. Considering the screen has soo many pixels though, are the dead ones really noticeable to the naked eye?

    Also the price seems to have steadily been on the rise since they were released has anyone got any recommendations of where to purchase?
    Its clear Big Cloth Craft and Green Sum are the most reliable but just looking on ebay there I see they have about 40 variants between them.
    To narrow it down;
    Don't want tempered Glass
    Don't mind speakers included or not as they wont be used,
    Don't want to plug my phone into the screen (MHL)
    Don't really need it to Pivot. (-P variants)
    Matte - have seen glossy screens in well lit rooms tend to relfect too much light and obstruct the screen
    So this leaves about 10 I'd say.

    So out of Crossover, Catleap, Shimian, Qnix then.

    Red-Cap Sells Shimian, seems to be the only one on offer that is Matte, also has No Dead-Pixel and €355 Here

    BigCLoth Sells Crossover, is Glossy, has max 5 dead pixels, €279 Here

    I'm tempted to go with the Crossover because of the apparent better build quality.
    Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-LED-Quad-HD-DVI-2560x1440-16-9-6ms-PC-Monitor-/110833856200?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce366ec8

    about 265E on xe.com also that crossover has 35$ shipping, 26 euro more.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭platinums



    Yeah Red-Cap seems to allow up to 5 dead pix in the centre area, where as the other see's 1 in the dead center as a fault.

    Its hard to choose cause i suppose it comes down to pot luck in the end from all the sellers whether or not you get a dead pixel.

    Bulk buy you say? Would that reduce the ebay fee cost of 10% up to a maximum of €95.00. more than 3 would have to be bought to see a saving. I'd say customs would definitely hit you for a fee buying in this manner.

    I'd be interested though, moneys there just hesitant to buy.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Here are the list of FOB prices for a bulk order of 10+

    Don't know the difference in some monitors but the 269.7 achieva and 264 crossover are pretty sweet deals.
    Also those 30 inch IPS monitors for 441$.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Cutsoms would be harsh. Be about 280E per crossover monitor if hit by customs for them all.
    If you somehow managed to avoid that it's 190E each, doesn't seem like you'd save enough for a bulk order if hit by customs. Maybe on the 30 Inch ones but no way 10 people are gonna buy those.

    Total customs value: €1990.65
    - Duty: €278.69
    - VAT: €521.95
    Total import duty & taxes due: €800.64
    Total landed cost: €2791.29

    Still somebody could buy them in and sell them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    what does FOB stand for?

    there is no way 10 monitors slip through customs... I don't know of anyone getting away at all in recent times?

    what you could do is arrange to pay in 2 parts. customs always asks for your PayPal receipt, so you send them a low value one (say €100 per monitor)

    I have no problem low balling customs on this. customs is meant to be there to protect the Irish economy, or essentially give you more of an incentive to buy locally, however, these monitors cannot be bought here at any price, so they should be customs exempt.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    basically it's that they pay for shipment etc, i'd have to ask in more detail as it varies around the world and sometimes i think they transfer the goods rights to you at shipment, so faults would be on you. But I'm sue their same return policy would apply in this case. I think they just mean including shipment.

    Yeah that receipt idea would be good. the customs is quite excessive. Great deal with lower customs. I'd say there would be no problem selling them even if somebody just bought 10 themselves but who would do this madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Customs can be quite trusting of PP receipts....thats all I'll say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I've been circling around this like a vulture and I reckon it's about time I swoop.

    I have no experience with eBay. Do I need paypal? One option is doing it through my dad. I think he has a paypal account.

    I'm sold on the general concept but I've seen a few different brands bandied about. Which is the best make/model and which is the best seller?

    Just to be clear, does it come with the correct DVI cable? Will the power lead off any other monitor work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Moon54


    My Yamakasi Q270 finally arrived today!

    6034073


    First impressions are, wow, awesome colours and huge screen real estate.

    Here is a side-by-side photo of my old BenQ Q2400W and the Yamakasi.

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    Good news too, I've Zero dead pixels. I've done the Pixel Check on the doihaveadeadpixel.com website a few times and all looks good.

    Also, the monitor worked perfect with my Sapphire 5850 graphics card, despite all the eBay ads saying it isn't compatible.
    The supplied Dual-Link DVI lead is a bit short for my taste (I'm guessing it's 1.5m), but I can get a longer one sometime later, no biggy.

    There is some back-light bleed which is noticable at the corners, especially on the highest brightness setting (black screen, in a dark room),

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    ...but gets much reduced as you take the brightness down a bit.

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    Anyway, during normal usage I've never noticed it or worried about it.
    I just left the brightness down a few notches from the max setting and it's just right.

    Now onto the stand. It's shaky, yes I knew that when I was buying it.
    But it is bad.
    Luckily for me it's not an issue as I've it propped against an attic roof, but I'm going to have Vesa mount this someday.

    Photos really look great on this monitor and the extra screen real estate is welcome,
    ....notice the Recycle Bin in the pic below.... it used to be on the bottom right on my BenQ monitor. Overall Photos and Text are sharp and readable.

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    A Good Tip: If you find browser text too small, a good tip is to hold down Control and use the mouse scroll wheel, to zoom in or out, until you find a happy medium. ( Control +/- works as well)

    I just tried a bit of gaming with the recently purchased Dead Island on the 2560x1440 resolution, and it looked great, super-detailed.
    I can only imagine what it would be like in a good game, lol, or a game like Skyrim with the HD texture pack etc.

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    Overall, I'm extremely pleased with the purchase. :D
    No word about import duty cost yet. It was FedEx'ed from Korea and NightLine delivered it today,
    but I guess I can expect an invoice in the door at some stage, hopefully not too big a bill.

    Thanks to all the fellow Boardsies for all the advice & info.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Think I'm going to make the purchase later today, any advice regarding customs or anything else that I should consider before payment?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-LED-Quad-HD-DVI-2560x1440-16-9-6ms-PC-Monitor-/110833856200?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce366ec8
    Seems to be the best deal about atm


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Ask them to ensure that when they mark the value they include the shipping cost as well. If they only place the item value then customs will estimate a shipping cost and charge you vat on the cost.

    They seem to use estimates based on using a sherpa to personally carry it half way around the world for you. (I.e. they massively overcharge)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Moon54 wrote: »
    Now onto the stand. It's shaky, yes I knew that when I was buying it.
    But it is bad.
    Luckily for me it's not an issue as I've it propped against an attic roof, but I'm going to have Vesa mount this someday.

    A flatscreen strap might keep it safe in the meantime ?

    You could screw it to the roof ?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Babydan-Anti-Tip-TV-Strap/dp/B00442IDEK


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Still sitting on the bench like a big wuss I am....but the end is nigh.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Moon54, which one did you buy? was it a perfect pixel model or anything?

    don't forget to add yourself to the google doc in the OP.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Still sitting on the bench like a big wuss I am....but the end is nigh.....


    Did you say you had a U2412M?
    If so id stick with that tbh.
    Much better colours,vibrancy,contrast and brightness than the catleap not to mention a lot more features and the difference between 1200 and 1440 isnt as huge as you might think.
    Going from 1080 to 1440 is quite big but i found going from 1200 to 1440 not so.
    For sure if you want a bargain 1440 monitor its a great monitor but for gaming in particular the games were just so much more alive on the Dell thanks to its better contrast and brightness range and faster response time and less input lag [although after 20 mins on the catleap and adjusting to the difference all was well].
    The catleaps screen real estate is fecking awesome,it really is a great monitor for the price but for me everything was just so dull compared to the U2412M again only really noticeable side by side.
    It seemed pointless to keep the catleap when the U24 offered so much and i found myself using it more than the catleap when set up together.
    The catleap etc are lovely if you want 1440 for a decent price but from my experience atleast the catleap i had was just too dull compared to the U24.
    Some people dont mind this and maybe prefer it this way but me personally i love high contrast/brightness and vivid colours above anything else.

    If you already have a good 1200 IPS it might be wise to hold on to your cash or maybe save some more and get the Dell U27 1440 or Asus 1440 if you really want to go with 1440.

    As always it boils down to personal taste.

    If your hell bent on a cheap 1440 id suggest one of the others as the catleaps stand is really terrible although i stopped the wobble and shaking when i propped it beside the U24 :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Thing that appeals to me is that it is 27 inches (main thing) and the resolution. The colours are going to be fantastic on either monitor so it doesn't matter to me. Having seen the apple panel I thought it was brilliant personally.

    I'd stay away from the more expensive dell U27 with it's antiglare destroying the image.

    Catleaps are dearer than the others, have a worse stand and have to dismantle it to get to the VESA mount...I'd get a crossover or a shimian, unless the custom 120hz pcb becomes anything more than a pipe dream.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive



    Ahh decisions decisions. It's the weekend anyway so I have time to think about it a bit more, have the funds in paypal ready for action though :~D Serious value in the shimian's atm though, depending on customs too I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Dcully wrote: »
    Did you say you had a U2412M?
    If so id stick with that tbh.
    Much better colours,vibrancy,contrast and brightness than the catleap not to mention a lot more features and the difference between 1200 and 1440 isnt as huge as you might think.
    Going from 1080 to 1440 is quite big but i found going from 1200 to 1440 not so.
    For sure if you want a bargain 1440 monitor its a great monitor but for gaming in particular the games were just so much more alive on the Dell thanks to its better contrast and brightness range and faster response time and less input lag [although after 20 mins on the catleap and adjusting to the difference all was well].
    The catleaps screen real estate is fecking awesome,it really is a great monitor for the price but for me everything was just so dull compared to the U2412M again only really noticeable side by side.
    It seemed pointless to keep the catleap when the U24 offered so much and i found myself using it more than the catleap when set up together.
    The catleap etc are lovely if you want 1440 for a decent price but from my experience atleast the catleap i had was just too dull compared to the U24.
    Some people dont mind this and maybe prefer it this way but me personally i love high contrast/brightness and vivid colours above anything else.

    If you already have a good 1200 IPS it might be wise to hold on to your cash or maybe save some more and get the Dell U27 1440 or Asus 1440 if you really want to go with 1440.

    As always it boils down to personal taste.

    If your hell bent on a cheap 1440 id suggest one of the others as the catleaps stand is really terrible although i stopped the wobble and shaking when i propped it beside the U24 :)

    No Cully I have the BenQ 24" was the business at the time...still does a great job TBH

    http://http://www.trustedreviews.com/BenQ-FP241W-24in-Widescreen-Monitor_Monitor_review


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭God Father


    Dcully wrote: »
    the difference between 1200 and 1440 isnt as huge as you might think.
    Going from 1080 to 1440 is quite big but i found going from 1200 to 1440 not so.

    That really doesn't add up though.

    1920*1080 vs 1920*1200 =

    A gain of 120 pixels on the Y axis. (so 120*1920=230,400 more pixels. (11%)

    1920*1200 vs 2560*1440=

    A gain of 640 pixels in width on the X-Axis and 240 pixels in height on the Y-Axis.

    That is 1,382,400 extra pixels or 60% more.

    Now to say that an increase in resolution from 1080 to 1200 is big at an 11% increase and 1200 to 1440 is not so at a 60% increase is a bit ridiculous and misleading.

    Also in relation to the increase in size from the 24" to 27". The PPI is still a lot better at 108.79 vs 94.34


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Moon54



    Thanks Tar, yeah that was the one I got.
    It had a 5 dead pixel maximum I believe.

    No word yet on what the customs duty will be, it was FedEx'ed from Korea,
    so I believe FedEx will probably send out an invoice for it.

    I'd agree with Dcully, the screen is wonderful... but the stand is bad,
    it might be a deal breaker for some people.
    In fairness the Catleap is not too bad on a solid table maybe on a solid floor,
    but in room with wooden rafters under the floor, the screen can jiggy around slightly when walking around the room.

    If anyone is worried maybe check out the Achieva Shimian which seem to be
    a good equivalent to the Yamakasi Catleaps ("It has an LG IPS LCD panel found in 27" iMacs");
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    God Father wrote: »
    That really doesn't add up though.

    1920*1080 vs 1920*1200 =

    A gain of 120 pixels on the Y axis. (so 120*1920=230,400 more pixels. (11%)

    1920*1200 vs 2560*1440=

    A gain of 640 pixels in width on the X-Axis and 240 pixels in height on the Y-Axis.

    That is 1,382,400 extra pixels or 60% more.

    Now to say that an increase in resolution from 1080 to 1200 is big at an 11% increase and 1200 to 1440 is not so at a 60% increase is a bit ridiculous and misleading.

    Also in relation to the increase in size from the 24" to 27". The PPI is still a lot better at 108.79 vs 94.34

    In real world terms and actual ingame the difference is minute.
    Also the higher you go on the res scale the difference gets smaller infact, for example theres feck all to the naked eye between 1440 and 1600 while gaming.

    I could see little to no difference while gaming between 1200 and 1440 but the difference in image quality,colours,contrast and brightness etc was very big between the two and ultimately was what made games look better to me on the U2412M.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭platinums


    just saw this - LG being fined for LCD price Fixing.
    LG being the makers of these fine 2560 panels hopefully this will shake up the price of them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Squeaky the Squirrel


    56 Million between the 6, pfft, chump change to Samsung alone.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    Started emailing a few sellers, got a few replies from them, they are situated very close to me, but I never followed up with them. Thinking I might do so now though. I'm just ansy about ending up buying the wrong seller and product to test.

    So, Catleaps are out, Crossovers and Shimians in? Who are the best sellers pixel guarantee and stand wise? If I could find one with a HDMI in that would be great too. Cheapest sellers possible would also be great. :) Then I can start talking to them about buying in bulk.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    cs[at]astrobileDOTcom is the person who emailed me the price list above for bulk to ireland, maybe talk to them. His name is kevin and I saw that email on a few seller pages. Anyway, send me a cheap monitor :P

    any shimian or crossover is fine. Sellers are greensum, bigclothcraft etc I just look at the amount sold on ebay and the reviews of them.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭platinums


    Was in the Apple store Section at Arnots earlier, spotted a 27" iMac so hovered around for ten minutes waiting for the couple on it to move along.
    Eventually i got a look at it, first thoughts are holy bat**** tits its BIG.

    Maybe too big though, if its going to be on a desk around 3 feet in front of my face.
    On the plus side of this though, I can imagine being totally immersed in what ever game I play on it what with not seeing the edges of the screen.

    Does anyone else have it at around 2/3/4 feet in front of them and find it too close?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    platinums wrote: »
    Was in the Apple store Section at Arnots earlier, spotted a 27" iMac so hovered around for ten minutes waiting for the couple on it to move along.
    Eventually i got a look at it, first thoughts are holy bat**** tits its BIG.

    Maybe too big though, if its going to be on a desk around 3 feet in front of my face.
    On the plus side of this though, I can imagine being totally immersed in what ever game I play on it what with not seeing the edges of the screen.

    Does anyone else have it at around 2/3/4 feet in front of them and find it too close?

    Not a catleap/etc, but I've my new Syncmaster S27A650 about 2-3ft infront of me, and yeah, it is a bit "holy **** big" at first. Does actually require a bit of effort to look around the screen now :D But it is totally usable day to day, no issues at all IMO


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