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Old Irish Coins

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭celtboy1888


    i found this in the foundations of my house on the monaghan/fermanagh border>>

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    HENRIETTA MARIA, Queen of Charles I of England, born on the 25th of November 1609, was the daughter of Henry IV of France. When the first serious overtures for her hand were made on behalf of Charles, Prince of Wales, in the spring of 1624, she was little more than fourteen years of age. Her brother, Louis XIII, only consented to the marriage on the condition that the English Roman Catholics were relieved from the operation of the penal laws. When therefore she set out for her new home in June 1625, she had already pledged the husband to whom she had been married by proxy on the 1st of May to a course of action which was certain to bring unpopularity on him as well as upon herself.

    That husband was now King of England. The early years of the married life of Charles I were most unhappy. He soon found an excuse for breaking his promise to relieve the English Catholics. His young wife was deeply offended by treatment which she naturally regarded as unhandsome. The favourite, Buckingham, stirred the flames of his master's discontent. Charles in vain strove to reduce her to tame submission. After the assassination of Buckingham in 1628, the barrier between the married pair was broken down, and the bond of affection which from that moment united them was never loosened. The children of the marriage were Charles II (b. 1630), Mary, Princess of Orange (b. 1631), James II (b. 1633), Elizabeth (b. 1636), Henry, Duke of Gloucester (b. 1640), and Henrietta, duchess of Orleans (b. 1644).

    For some years Henrietta Maria's chief interests lay in her young family, and in the amusements of a gay and brilliant court. She loved to be present at dramatic entertainments, and her participation in the private rehearsals of the Shepherd's Pastoral, written by her favourite Walter Montague, probably drew down upon her the savage attack of Prynne. With political matters she hardly meddled as yet. Even her co-religionists found little aid from her till the summer of 1637. She had then recently opened a diplomatic communication with the see of Rome. She appointed an agent to reside at Rome, and a papal agent, a Scotsman named George Conn, accredited to her, was soon engaged in effecting conversions amongst the English gentry and nobility. Henrietta Maria was well pleased to become a patroness of so holy a work, especially as she was not asked to take any personal trouble in the matter.

    Protestant England took alarm at the proceedings of a Queen who associated herself so closely with the doings of "the grim wolf with privy paw." When the Scottish troubles broke out, she raised money from her fellow-Catholics to support the king's army on the borders in 1639. During the session of the Short Parliament in the spring of 1640, the queen urged the king to oppose himself to the House of Commons in defence of the Catholics. When the Long Parliament met, the Catholics were believed to be the authors and agents of every arbitrary scheme which was supposed to have entered into the plans of Strafford or Laud. Before the Long Parliament had sat for two months, the queen was urging upon the pope the duty of lending money to enable her to restore her husband's authority. She threw herself heart and soul into the schemes for rescuing Strafford and coercing the parliament. The army plot, the scheme for using Scotland against England, and the attempt upon the five members were the fruits of her political activity.

    In the next year the queen effected her passage to the Continent. In February 1643 she landed at Burlington Quay, placed herself at the head of a force of loyalists, and marched through England to join the King near Oxford. After little more than a year's residence there, on the 3rd of April 1644, she left her husband, to see his face no more. Henrietta Maria found a refuge in France. Richelieu was dead, and Anne of Austria was compassionate. As long as her husband was alive the Queen never ceased to encourage him to resistance.

    During her exile in France she had much to suffer. Her husband's execution in 1649 was a terrible blow. She brought up her youngest child Henrietta in her own faith, but her efforts to induce her youngest son, the Duke of Gloucester, to take the same course only produced discomfort in the exiled family. The story of her marriage with her attached servant Lord Jermyn needs more confirmation than it has yet received to be accepted, but all the information which has reached us of her relations with her children points to the estrangement which had grown up between them. When after the Restoration she returned to England, she found that she had no place in the new world. She received from parliament a grant of 30,000 a year in compensation for the loss of her dower-lands, and the King added a similar sum as a pension from himself. In January 1661 she returned to France to be present at the marriage of her daughter Henrietta to the Duke of Orleans. In July 1662 she set out again for England, and took up her residence once more at Somerset House. Her health failed her, and on the 24th of June 1665, she departed in search of the clearer air of her native country. She died on the 31st of August 1666, at Colombes, not far from Paris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    i found this in the foundations of my house on the monaghan/fermanagh border>>

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    All you need is good metal detector now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭nowuckenfurries


    Quick question.. are Millenium pound coins (circulated) worth any more than face value??


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Quick question.. are Millenium pound coins (circulated) worth any more than face value??

    Very little over face if you can even manage to sell them. Not much demand as theres buckets of them about, remember everyone kept these aside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭nowuckenfurries


    Blade wrote: »
    Very little over face if you can even manage to sell them. Not much demand as theres buckets of them about, remember everyone kept these aside.

    Pity that :( I saw 2 sell on adverts for 10.00 the other day & then today found 38 of them in a house clearout... got my hopes up!! lol :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Pity that :( I saw 2 sell on adverts for 10.00 the other day & then today found 38 of them in a house clearout... got my hopes up!! lol :pac:

    LOL chance your arm on adverts so, I won't ban you for profiteering I promise! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 NeillNI


    Except for here (and the brilliant advice offered) is there no where for Irish people to gather online? Or clubs around the Island? I have been looking online for a while now, and found broken links etc


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    NeillNI wrote: »
    Except for here (and the brilliant advice offered) is there no where for Irish people to gather online? Or clubs around the Island? I have been looking online for a while now, and found broken links etc

    See my reply to you on the other thread about the Numismatic Society of Ireland. Meetings in Dublin, but theres another society up North too. Can get details if you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 sharpshooter murphy


    i have a charles ii guinea. is it worth anything?? could anyone give me even a ballpark idea of the value of this? also can someone please tell me how i can add photos to my posts? Thank you in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    i have a charles ii guinea. is it worth anything?? could anyone give me even a ballpark idea of the value of this? also can someone please tell me how i can add photos to my posts? Thank you in advance.

    Hi sharpshooter murphy,

    an easy way to add images to a post is to use the "attachments" function a little bit below the reply area when you respond to a post. If that doesn't work you can always use one of the free image storing facilities like www.photobucket.com or www.imageshack.com etc. There you can upload different image files and store them in albums. The images will be stored with different "link" options which you can use to post an image here (just copy and past the forum link options and paste them directly into your reply post....use the preview function to make sure your reply and image looks the way you want it).


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Heres a couple that I just found in the dads attic.

    One is a George II Rex with a picture of a Harp on the back of it with the word Hibernia dated 1760.

    The other one is probably for a different thread

    Latvian 5 Lati dated 1929.Seems like a solid silver coin.

    Would these be worth anything you lot reckon?

    Last pic is a better sample of the Rex one above only mine is more coppery coloured.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 sharpshooter murphy


    Can anyone help me?
    Im looking for some information on george ii gunea that i have ive looked it up online and seen its worth somewhere in the region of 2500 euro, is there anywhere in south east of ireland that i could bring it to be valued or to even have some light shed on it??


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Remember it's all about condition, your Irish one is worth about a fiver and your Latvian one would be worth from 20 to 40 euro if that was an original picture of your actual coin.
    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Heres a couple that I just found in the dads attic.

    One is a George II Rex with a picture of a Harp on the back of it with the word Hibernia dated 1760.

    The other one is probably for a different thread

    Latvian 5 Lati dated 1929.Seems like a solid silver coin.

    Would these be worth anything you lot reckon?

    Last pic is a better sample of the Rex one above only mine is more coppery coloured.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 JVSS


    Some great reading there guys , was wondering if anyone knew of a genuine valuer in the Limerick area , i have had a box of coins for many years now and have a vague idea of the value , i aint finished listing the years etc yet but i do know that i have 1,062 old irish and English penny's , wow (-: , threepence etc etc , cheers thanks for reading and looking forward to your words .

    Dates from 1906 to 1968 i think and as far as i know i dont have any 1940 in all that )-:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    JVSS wrote: »
    Some great reading there guys , was wondering if anyone knew of a genuine valuer in the Limerick area , i have had a box of coins for many years now and have a vague idea of the value , i aint finished listing the years etc yet but i do know that i have 1,062 old irish and English penny's , wow (-: , threepence etc etc , cheers thanks for reading and looking forward to your words .

    Dates from 1906 to 1968 i think and as far as i know i dont have any 1940 in all that )-:

    Sounds like a random lot of pennies as there's no 1940's, it's not something a collector kept aside. It's doubtful then that there'd be anything rare in the English ones either. Doesn't sound like theres anything there of value if they are indeed a random lot of circulated/used coins. You might find you'll also be a bit low on the 1962 Irish pennies, not rare but just typically low in a random lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 JVSS


    Blade wrote: »
    Sounds like a random lot of pennies as there's no 1940's, it's not something a collector kept aside. It's doubtful then that there'd be anything rare in the English ones either. Doesn't sound like theres anything there of value if they are indeed a random lot of circulated/used coins. You might find you'll also be a bit low on the 1962 Irish pennies, not rare but just typically low in a random lot.


    Ok so far 3 x 1940 but English , 13 x 1962 = 3 x Irish 13 x English , about close to quater the way trough , 30/40 pre 1920 so far back to 1900 not in great nick , 1968 seems to big the largest year will have well over a hundread of these id say and most in presteen condition some like new , i do have history for these coins and i can say for 100% that they were never in the hands of any collector , they were in fact out of gaming machines , some of the coins may have come straight from the bank into the machines and never left them .

    Thanks blade , going to be a long weekend to get to the end of the box as im away today , tommorow and monday but will get an hour or so at them every night .


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    JVSS: I know exactly the type of lot you have there from everything you've said, that's how I knew there'd be a disproportionately low number of 1962 Irish pennies. I'm afraid there doesn't sound like theres anything there worth writing home about and you'll be hard pushed trying to sell them to anyone, especially to a dealer. All you can really do is try to make a few complete sets for yourself by buying the missing coins, most likely the 1940 Irish. The English ones are a different story, you'll be missing quite a few of those. I might be able to help you out with some of your missing ones.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 JVSS


    cheers Blade , i wonder would you stretch yourself to putting a rough guess on what the general person should pay for the lot , thanks


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    I'll tell you by PM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 JVSS


    Thank you , not finished listing yet , close to 2/3 , only 2 x 1962 irish so far one close to mint bright copper as if it never saw the light lol

    100 or so pre 1920 , back to 1889


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 londonmunster


    I have an old Irish Punt note serial no. 80J348038, dated 28.6.72

    any idea what that is worth? It is in pretty good condition, a bit of red staining on the back but front is in reasonably good shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Anthony O Brien


    I have an old Irish Punt note serial no. 80J348038, dated 28.6.72

    any idea what that is worth? It is in pretty good condition, a bit of red staining on the back but front is in reasonably good shape.

    around five euros


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 londonmunster


    Is that all?! thought it might be worth more... I think I will just hang on to it, it looks quite cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Mylesie


    there's only one millenium pound coin, the one with the viking boat on it.

    the other one your are thinking of (the 1987 one) is a 50p coin.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 gerard974


    Hi to all friends collectors
    is one collector on this forum collect world coins ??.
    i ask because i collect this and i have many for to swapp.
    I am intersted by some Irish coins. I can sended my doubles list ,the list of coins that i have for your country or the list of coins missing
    greeting from Reunion island Gerard


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 stevethefish


    i hav a edward vii 1902 low tide coin how much is it worth


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    i hav a edward vii 1902 low tide coin how much is it worth

    Depends the condition, if you put up a clear scan I'll tell you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Robinho11


    I'm wondering does anyone know how much a 1967 Irish £5 Banknote in immaculate condition is worth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Irishmaster


    Well not too old but are these rare and worth any money at all?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Well not too old but are these rare and worth any money at all?

    Nope.

    That 20p beside it might be if it's 1985 :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Irishmaster


    Blade wrote: »
    Nope.

    That 20p beside it might be if it's 1985 :P
    The 20p beside it is 1998. Oh well! I have a massive 10p thats 1976 and a massive 5p thats 1978. Thought the pingin might have been worth something, oh well in the bin we go! Lol!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    The 20p beside it is 1998. Oh well! I have a massive 10p thats 1976 and a massive 5p thats 1978. Thought the pingin might have been worth something, oh well in the bin we go! Lol!

    Don't bin them - toss them in to your local charity shop - there's always the chance that someone starting out collecting will want them. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Robinho11


    Blade wrote: »
    Depends the condition, if you put up a clear scan I'll tell you.
    can i send you it in e-mail?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Sorry Robinho11, my response there was to stevethefish about his coin. I don't know enough about notes to give you an evaluation. Someone else might be able to help you out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Anthony O Brien


    Robinho11 wrote: »
    I'm wondering does anyone know how much a 1967 Irish £5 Banknote in immaculate condition is worth?

    it would depend on its condition, immaculate in one persons eyes could be different to anothers, id really have to see it but if it is in unc condition it would be worth ~€45-€50, if it is in pristine bunc condition it would be worth a bit more probably €65,
    one in very good condition would be worth €30


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 dyna2010


    hi cud sumone help me out, i woz cleaning out my gran attic and found a big bag of old irish coin prob bout 300 2p with dates from 1979 upwards also a prob the same in 1p, theres some 5p big and small, 10p big and small, also 12 pound in old money in 20p 1986 upwards ,does anyone if its worth anything, thanks chris


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    dyna2010 wrote: »
    hi cud sumone help me out, i woz cleaning out my gran attic and found a big bag of old irish coin prob bout 300 2p with dates from 1979 upwards also a prob the same in 1p, theres some 5p big and small, 10p big and small, also 12 pound in old money in 20p 1986 upwards ,does anyone if its worth anything, thanks chris

    Little or nothing over face value would be my guess from what you're saying...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 dyna2010


    thanks for the reply,can i bring it a any bank?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    dyna2010 wrote: »
    thanks for the reply,can i bring it a any bank?

    No, only the Central Bank will exchange notes and coins but unfortunately the coins must be bagged in set amounts, so you'll always be left over with something. I think the best thing is to sell them to a dealer for face value, or just stick them up on Adverts.ie and ask for a bit more than face. Take the total of what you have and divide that by .787564 to get your Euro face value.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 declanm42


    just wondering if any one could help me value these notes
    http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n485/Declan_Mccarthy/decnotes001.jpg
    x1 9-3-39 ploughman 5 pound munster leinster band 03mk067895

    x1 3-1-39 irish 5 pound note 33t063996

    x1 6-4-64 10 shillings note 45p640767

    x1 1-7-94 bank of ireland 5 pound sterling note r832044

    x1 31-12-58 irish 1 pound note 14f982516

    x1 17-5-74 irish 1 pound note 26k904000

    x1 21-4-75 irish 1 pound note 16L408031

    x5 30-9-76 irish 1 pound notes 35L425515
    56L271302
    56L271554
    66L983282
    70L338964

    x2 10-06-77 irish 1 pound notes ilb 41452
    ilb 446810

    x1 21-09-81 irish 1 pound note dcg 373584

    x1 10-07-84 irish 1 pound note kki 452483

    x1 12-04-89 irish 1 pound note agk 837710

    x2 17-07-89 irish 1 pound note ljk 109663
    aak 174980

    also a amercian 1 dollar bill series 1935f silver crest u07529831i

    would appericiate any help with values


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    If you can watch a repeat of Sybill and Martin (today) on TV3 website there was a guy on it and he was auctioning a mint ploughmans note for a few hundred. There's an auction in rathmines tomorrow - I wasn't paying much attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭blackbird98


    this is probably what you heard about

    http://www.hermanwilkinson.ie/auctions/fineart_antiques.html

    auction tomorrow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Chopper71


    HI,

    Would anyone be able to point be in the right direction for the next Irish Coin Auction ?

    Googled the subject and could not find any specific dates.

    I'm looking to buy Irish coins in bulk as opposed to selling them.

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 carddub


    Hi all, I'm just wondering does anyone know where I can get 200 irish 1p coins not the really old ones just the 1969-2000 ones??
    Thanks :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Chopper71 wrote: »
    Would anyone be able to point be in the right direction for the next Irish Coin Auction ?

    You'll need to be put on a mailing list to be notified of these auctions. Give this guy a call: Mike Kelly 089 4138474


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    carddub wrote: »
    Hi all, I'm just wondering does anyone know where I can get 200 irish 1p coins not the really old ones just the 1969-2000 ones??
    Thanks :)

    Any dealer should be able to get them. There's 2 in the Grafton arcade, Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Anthony O Brien


    carddub wrote: »
    Hi all, I'm just wondering does anyone know where I can get 200 irish 1p coins not the really old ones just the 1969-2000 ones??
    Thanks :)

    pm sent


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Gaudizeit


    out of curiosity...how much would the 1985 20p coin be worth?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Gaudizeit wrote: »
    out of curiosity...how much would the 1985 20p coin be worth?

    Around 10,000 Euro in reality. Though I have seen higher asking prices.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Gaudizeit


    Blade wrote: »
    Around 10,000 Euro in reality. Though I have seen higher asking prices.

    Christ almighty. Time to rip open the couches!


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