Kendrick Lamar

mufcboy1999 · 30-06-2011 11:53am #1

if j cole has his own thread its only right lamar has his, along with cole lamar is considered one the best new talents to come through in a long time.

i personally think he has a just a small bit of an edge over cole but its mainly just my personal preference, i just think he can switch it up a bit more than cole also its great to hear a proper new talent from the west.

he's dropping a debut digital album called section 80 july 2nd, he's put out a bit for it already. A bit strange that his debut is going to be just digital only available on itunes, im not a fan of this online only stuff id rather a cd copy anyday to be honest.

the tracklist and album cover has been released, its a bit strange dr dre isnt one of the exec producers on the album considering its his debut, infact there's no dre beats at all and he was on video with dre in the studio working on this album..

Kendrick Lamar – Section 80 Tracklist

01. **** Your Ethnicity
02. Hol’ Up
03. A.D.H.D.
04. No Makeup (Her Vice) (feat. Colin Munroe)
05. Tammy’s Song (Her Evils)
06. Chapter Six
07. Ronald Reagan Era (His Evils) (feat. RZA)
08. Poe Man Dreams (His Vice) (feat. GLC)
09. The Spiteful Chant (feat. Schoolboy Q)
10. Chapter Ten
11. Keisha’s Song (Her Pain) (feat. Astro Bot)
12. Rigamortis
13. Kush & Corinthians (His Pain) (feat. BJ The Chicago Kid)
14. Members Only
15. Ab-Soul’s Outro
16. HiiiiPoWeR

Read more: http://www.killerhiphop.com/kendrick-lamar-section-80-tracklist-cover/#ixzz1Qkt9OiVZ

most of ye probably heard this, 1st single of the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep0hay4Qw54

this is one of my fav songs so far this year its of the album too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9u0DkoBPlM

horsebox09 · 30-06-2011 12:05pm

HiiPoWer is incredible, can't wait for this album to drop

I heard J-Cole was supposed to be producing 90% of this project, he only has one beat on here though

On Dre and Kendrick working together, I read somewhere that he's saving those tracks for his next project

mufcboy1999 · 30-06-2011 12:14pm

horsebox09 wrote: »

HiiPoWer is incredible, can't wait for this album to drop

I heard J-Cole was supposed to be producing 90% of this project, he only has one beat on here though

On Dre and Kendrick working together, I read somewhere that he's saving those tracks for his next project

ye it is isnt it, its refreshing to hear this kind of music in todays hip hop, in fairness all the stuff he has released in the past has been quaility.

On Dre and Kendrick working together, I read somewhere that he's saving those tracks for his next project

ye it has to be, very strange for dre to put out a debut album from one of his new artists and not at least co-produce it i mean look at snoop,em,50,game etc they all had dre as a co-producer on there debuts.

im just wondering though is this actually going to be classed as his debut album? or is it like a teaser to his aftermath release... i mean it doesnt look like this is being released on aftermath/interscope maybe it is but he's getting little or no support from the label..

horsebox09 · 30-06-2011 1:07pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

ye it is isnt it, its refreshing to hear this kind of music in todays hip hop, in fairness all the stuff he has released in the past has been quaility.

ye it has to be, very strange for dre to put out a debut album from one of his new artists and not at least co-produce it i mean look at snoop,em,50,game etc they all had dre as a co-producer on there debuts.

im just wondering though is this actually going to be classed as his debut album? or is it like a teaser to his aftermath release... i mean it doesnt look like this is being released on aftermath/interscope maybe it is but he's getting little or no support from the label..

Definitely man, it's especially refreshing to hear some quality West Coast hip hop again too

Thats true, Dre in the past had a hands on approach with his new artists and tried to do as much for them as he could, seems like he's reluctant to give much away about where his sound is at before Detox drops

See thats the thing, I don't have a clue whether these digital albums can be classed as debuts, I'm assuming it is his debut, BUT his retail debut (his 1st album that will be sold in stores) will the one to get more backing from the label, and some Dre beats :cool:

Makaveli · 30-06-2011 1:18pm

Looking at the back of the album there's no mention of Aftermath so I'd say this isn't considered a label release. Maybe it's more like a tape.

PrettyBoy · 30-06-2011 2:42pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

the tracklist and album cover has been released, its a bit strange dr dre isnt one of the exec producers on the album considering its his debut, infact there's no dre beats at all and he was on video with dre in the studio working on this album..

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

very strange for dre to put out a debut album from one of his new artists and not at least co-produce it i mean look at snoop,em,50,game etc they all had dre as a co-producer on there debuts.

im just wondering though is this actually going to be classed as his debut album? or is it like a teaser to his aftermath release... i mean it doesnt look like this is being released on aftermath/interscope maybe it is but he's getting little or no support from the label..

Section 80 is not a debut album/major label release, it's an independent release..more of a mixtape than anything else to be fair.

Also, I might have missed it, but is Lamar actually signed to a major label (Interscope/Aftermath)?

Zero-Cool · 01-07-2011 5:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91uDzcXtpNs

Hugh Cream · 01-07-2011 9:22pm

just listening to this, quite good so far, beats are good .

mufcboy1999 · 01-07-2011 11:21pm

yep thats a banger alright i love it, i am a big jay rock fan its mad beause a few years ago jay, bishop and nipsey were considered the next big things from the west but they never really blew up, i hope the same doesnt happen for lamar although he is hugely talented and in fairness a step above jay and nipsey in my opinion ( i think bishop lamont is a beast i love his music) but never the less there is a good chance he could rot on the shelf with aftermath just like a lot of previous rappers have, we all know how fickle dre is.

Zero-Cool · 01-07-2011 11:42pm

Gonna check this out, I think he's name has been putting me off, very rnb sounding haha.

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mufcboy1999 · 01-07-2011 11:58pm

they just keep coming this is just different very original sound to it, this album is shaping up very nicely i must say im buzzin for it.

http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/

Gonna check this out, I think he's name has been putting me off, very rnb sounding haha.

LOL, trust me bud id say you would like him i highly recommend him, he's my fav rapper at the moment. check out the kendrick lamar EP and the OD mixtape they are quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysvu6MRxuDE

mufcboy1999 · 06-07-2011 2:38pm

lemar talks the album,detox, j cole and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lPa0Grubw

mufcboy1999 · 09-07-2011 2:34pm

did anyone listen or get the album yet?

iv downloaded it but i cant open the *****n folder for itunes.

lamar done this rocawear add lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5ONX-TsB8

Raekwon · 09-07-2011 4:33pm

Section 80 is an amazing album, I've been listening to it none stop all week, I can't get enough of it!

I'm really looking forward to Good Kid in a Mad City now!

The guy is a monster on the mic! :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlnLn7aBlo

mufcboy1999 · 09-07-2011 8:58pm

Section 80 is an amazing album, I've been listening to it none stop all week, I can't get enough of it!

I'm really looking forward to Good Kid in a Mad City now!

The guy is a monster on the mic! :pac:

thats what i like to hear, im going to buy it on itunes monday cant wait to hear it.

looks like your going to get another album before good kid in a mad city, j cole has just confirmed that him and lamar are doing a collab album it was meant to be a mixtape but now its an album he says hip hop needs this.

cole and lamar duet album i can pretty much say it will be unreal and it isnt even out yet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuZKw93aZ9E

mufcboy1999 · 11-07-2011 1:17pm

just listned to it dismornin its quality the best iv heard so far this year without a doubt.

lovin this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3D2hk-BjjU

mufcboy1999 · 21-08-2011 1:31am

good video, game,snoop and dre passing down the torch to lamar the new king of the west coast

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raps his verse from the city on the red album too, nice video he deserves it his music is quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVhkplp0suY

conor.hogan.2 · 23-08-2011 4:20pm

Just my opinion this is all fairly average, the beats are nice and some of the lyrics are nice but its drowned out by the repetition and random **** bars.

After reading most the thread if its more a mixtape then its not bad, he has potential as there was some very good bars but he needs to stop with the random repetition and **** bars he needs to cut it down and make it better in general but shorter.

Tammys Song (Her Evils) is garbage.

Monster Freestyle is nice, but with that ammount of cockiness you need better bars imo.

mufcboy1999 · 25-08-2011 5:40pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Just my opinion this is all fairly average, the beats are nice and some of the lyrics are nice but its drowned out by the repetition and random **** bars.

After reading most the thread if its more a mixtape then its not bad, he has potential as there was some very good bars but he needs to stop with the random repetition and **** bars he needs to cut it down and make it better in general but shorter.

Tammys Song (Her Evils) is garbage.

Monster Freestyle is nice, but with that ammount of cockiness you need better bars imo.

im not just saying it because im a big fan of his but i actually think he has a lot of substance behind his lyrics more so than a hell of a lot of rappers out right now.

but i respect your opinion im not going to slate it or debate it, everyone to there own.:)

the video for a.d.h.d is out now too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEIkwH9STCc

conor.hogan.2 · 25-08-2011 7:05pm

Sure I suppose that depends on who place in the "lot of rappers out now".

I don't see him being seriously rated on any level besides snoop, game and dre backing him.
But they back money, I doubt snoop is actually listening to it for content.

Danow247 · 26-08-2011 12:47am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Sure I suppose that depends on who place in the "lot of rappers out now".

I don't see him being seriously rated on any level besides snoop, game and dre backing him.
But they back money, I doubt snoop is actually listening to it for content.

snoop would want to be listening to it for content & dre aswell.

they havent dropped a good record in years. especially snoop.

kendrick lamar will be huge regardless who is backing him. he is 1 of the hottest rap artists in the game right now. (j cole just ahead of him imo) and with the 2 of them set to release an album together next year they about to takeover. here is 2 snippets from there joint album or mixtape not confirmed yet. sounds amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQDF3NUheZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6DAIFRqfbw

conor.hogan.2 · 26-08-2011 1:18am

No offence but if you think either of these artists is even top 10 atm then you need to listen to better hip-hop (I would struggle to even call this hip-hop but thats me).

At best they are like Akon, Timbaland or maybe William. As in these are fairly average as far as rapping goes, and j cole and lamar are barely on their level even.

mufcboy1999 · 26-08-2011 5:23pm

now i know your talking sh*t or just trying to stir up, to put lamar and cole in the same category as 2 glorified hook men in akon and william and a man better known for his beats than his rapping ability in timbaland is beyond stupid, akon is more of a singer than rapper, william is a pop star/bubblegum rapper and timbo produces music/pop star.

im starting to think you'v never listened to lamar properly after that comment.

but who in your opinion is in the top 10 atm? this should be interesting...

conor.hogan.2 · 26-08-2011 5:44pm

I have listened to everything in this thread, which is his best work (?) and have listened to some of j cole because he is mentioned so much.

Also the thrash "one liners" in the other thread.

Are you saying this is anything more than pop rap or club music mostly?
Because thats what it sounds like, even the freestyles.

mufcboy1999 · 26-08-2011 7:22pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I have listened to everything in this thread, which is his best work (?) and have listened to some of j cole because he is mentioned so much.

Also the thrash "one liners" in the other thread.

Are you saying this is anything more than pop rap or club music mostly?
Because thats what it sounds like, even the freestyles.

this thread is mostly if not all lamars work of his section 80 lp a digital album released about a month or so ago, in which has gotten great reviews throughout hip hop the reason for it not being recognized commercially is probably due to the fact that lamar isnt a commercial rapper.

i wouldn't class lamars music pop rap or club music how could you? the most commercialized piece of music lamar has ever released was hii power which is a solid hip hop track with no pop or techno ft,hook,beat etc.

for me lamar's best work is section 80 but thats just my personal opinion tracks like a.d.h.d, hii power, fu*k your ethnicity etc are imo some of the best material iv heard in 2011, section 80 turned me from a fan to a very big fan.

his older work is really good imo aswell, most people would probably consider his older stuff prior section 80 his best work the kendrick lamar EP and the overly Dedicated mixtape are quality and id recommend them to anyone, he has released a few more before them but i haven't heard them yet.

but iv got a problem with your previous comment i think its beyond stupid to put lamar and cole in the likes of william and the akon category when both are 2 of the most talked about young mc's in the game known for the substance and meaning behind there music which cant be said about 99.9 per cent of rappers out these days including the likes of snoop and jay z etc who constantly put out repetitive music aswell as pop and techno rubbish that cant be called hip hop.

conor.hogan.2 · 26-08-2011 7:44pm

"**** dowt **** dowt" (the accent and the style he says it is very commercial and club) I would say it is very club orientated the reason it not being commercial is its not particularly good. Several of his songs have great beats and good hooks.

Lyrical content is severely lacking.

Can you post up some of their best quotable lyrics that they are known for? Ones that show meaning and substance?

mufcboy1999 · 26-08-2011 9:20pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

"**** dowt **** dowt" (the accent and the style he says it is very commercial and club) I would say it is very club orientated the reason it not being commercial is its not particularly good. Several of his songs have great beats and good hooks.

Lyrical content is severely lacking.

Can you post up some of their best quotable lyrics that they are known for? Ones that show meaning and substance?

i can and i will as soon as you give me your top 10 hip hop artists atm in which you say lamar and cole aren't worthy of.....

also your definition of real hip hop come on man you'l have to back that up...

you do that and back up your previous comments and il post up some lamar lryics and cole if you want that are worthy of being quotable...

conor.hogan.2 · 26-08-2011 9:32pm

This is a lamar kendrick thread, his top lyrics are suited to be posted here not my top hip-hop of 2011.

Off the top of my head I would say:
swollen members, saigon, sahtyre, canibus, lupe fiasco, bad meets evil, the Game, slaughterhouse, sage francis, scroobius pip, immortal technique, flight distance and og hindu kush. Many from the "battle" scene make good music and lots of others.
I dont do a top 10, it is impossible even if you don't do it in order.

This is nowhere near a complete or best list (mostly because they collaborated recently or i seen them in this forum recently).

mufcboy1999 · 27-08-2011 10:39pm

This is a lamar kendrick thread, his top lyrics are suited to be posted here not my top hip-hop of 2011.

what are you on about? are you trying to say that because this is a lamar thread that we have to quote his lyrics....

Off the top of my head I would say:
swollen members, saigon, sahtyre, canibus, lupe fiasco, bad meets evil, the Game, slaughterhouse, sage francis, scroobius pip, immortal technique, flight distance and og hindu kush. Many from the "battle" scene make good music and lots of others.
I dont do a top 10, it is impossible even if you don't do it in order.

No offence but if you think either of these artists is even top 10 atm

your words not mine ^^^

half of those rappers you named above iv never heard of. To suggest the game is in the top 10 is a joke he's been struggling years and has just released a very average album, lupe's last album was poor, slaughterhouse have released fu*k all so far in 2011 really and bad meets evil is not a rapper just to let you know...

swollen members, sahtyre, scroobius pip, flight distance etc are all acts iv never heard of and with names like that i don't want to hear them to be honest.

im not a fan of canibus and don't listen to much of saigons new stuff to be honest so i cant say much...

im gona leave it here with you, if you don't like lamar its your own choice i couldn't care less really but you obviously don't know much about his music or hip hop music in general if your going to put him in akon and willams category.

conor.hogan.2 · 28-08-2011 2:58pm

I am not responding to you anymore, you obviously went through that whole post and looked for easy things to pick against.

Swollen members or bad meets evil is not an artist despite the fact I never said they were.

mufcboy1999 · 28-08-2011 7:24pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I am not responding to you anymore, you obviously went through that whole post and looked for easy things to pick against.

Swollen members or bad meets evil is not an artist despite the fact I never said they were.

ok no problem we will leave it here:).

CiaranMT · 07-10-2011 12:03am

Got Section 80 after someone posted Rigamortus in another thread somewhere :eek: Track is ridiculous!

I'd got his EP but had forgotten about him, can't wait to listen to this album now. Best way to get over a hangover slump!

PrettyBoy · 07-10-2011 3:36am

CiaranMT wrote: »

Got Section 80 after someone posted Rigamortus in another thread somewhere :eek: Track is ridiculous!

I'd got his EP but had forgotten about him, can't wait to listen to this album now. Best way to get over a hangover slump!

One of the best MC's in the industry right now, Section.80 is great but I can't wait to hear what he comes up with next.

mufcboy1999 · 07-10-2011 9:17pm

ye most def my favourite piece of hip hop so far this year.

not a bad song, just released the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7tthGdCTE

mufcboy1999 · 13-01-2012 11:53pm

lamar talks his debut album and how its almost finished, also says he will build on the sound that was section 80 which sounds good to me.

confirms just blaze will have some production, surprised there was no mention of some dre production.

talks tour with drake and the black hippy album with jay rock.

http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2012/01/kendrick-lamar-gives-update-on-his-debut-album/

Sl!mCharles · 14-01-2012 12:23am

excellent!

conor.hogan.2 · 14-01-2012 12:47am

What the hell was section 80 if this is his debut?

Very commercially accepted/discussed if it was only a mixtape...

Bobby Baccala · 14-01-2012 12:56am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

What the hell was section 80 if this is his debut?

Very commercially accepted/discussed if it was only a mixtape...

A digital album i think, don't know to much about him but i think it was only a digital album.

conor.hogan.2 · 14-01-2012 1:26am

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

A digital album i think, don't know to much about him but i think it was only a digital album.

Alri cheers, oddly they do not count that as a full album?

Sl!mCharles · 14-01-2012 1:26am

yeah twas only released on iTunes as far as I'm aware.

PrettyBoy · 14-01-2012 1:53am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

confirms just blaze will have some production, surprised there was no mention of some dre production.

Really starting to wonder what kind of involvement, if any, Dre will have on this album. When the two started working together I thought it would only be a matter of time before he would sign to Aftermath but looks like that won't be happening and Kendrick hasn't mentioned anything about any production from Dre on the album.

Dre did say he wanted to work with Kendrick and Slim before he takes his break from music so hopefully he means they've done something for this album and not Detox (in which case, we would never get to hear it).

mufcboy1999 · 15-01-2012 7:19pm

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Really starting to wonder what kind of involvement, if any, Dre will have on this album. When the two started working together I thought it would only be a matter of time before he would sign to Aftermath but looks like that won't be happening and Kendrick hasn't mentioned anything about any production from Dre on the album.

Dre did say he wanted to work with Kendrick and Slim before he takes his break from music so hopefully he means they've done something for this album and not Detox (in which case, we would never get to hear it).

i know a bit strange, tbh i think if lamar had some dre production on the album he would of said it by now just like he confirmed just blaze will.

its not looking likely if that's the case, i actually taught up until a while ago lamar was on aftermath and that his debut would be released through aftermath/interscope.

its looking like to me dre is just going to over see this album and offer lamar some guidance just like he did with the game for the red album where he didn't contribute any beats just stupid skits nor was game actually back on aftermath it was for publicity, i can see lamar going down the same route with dre the connection with aftermath will do him no harm.

its probably a good thing as you know man most rappers who sign to aftermath their albums never see the light of day.

we saw dre and snoop giving their approval of jay rocks album a few months ago, wouldn't be surprised if it was just that for lamar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi8LZmJuh-w

PrettyBoy · 15-01-2012 7:57pm

Yeah for a while I thought Dre would be serving as executive producer for Kendrick's album, thought there would have been a few Dre beats on the album. I know what happens with Aftermath artists but a while back Dre seemed really eager to work on the album (an impression I never got when Dre talked about Bishop or Slim).

I thought Kendrick was going to be "Dre's" next big artist (Snoop, Em, 50, Game, etc.) but if he has little to no involvement in the albums production I'm really unsure whether Kendricks album will get the attention it deserves. A Dr. Dre co-sign is nice but it doesn't sell records - Jay Rocks album only sold 5,000 copies in its first week despite getting Dre's approval. Kendrick needs a Dre beat (In Da Club, How We Do, etc.), something for the radio and the club. Section.80 was a great album but there was nothing on there for the masses.

mufcboy1999 · 16-01-2012 10:11pm

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Yeah for a while I thought Dre would be serving as executive producer for Kendrick's album, thought there would have been a few Dre beats on the album. I know what happens with Aftermath artists but a while back Dre seemed really eager to work on the album (an impression I never got when Dre talked about Bishop or Slim).

I thought Kendrick was going to be "Dre's" next big artist (Snoop, Em, 50, Game, etc.) but if he has little to no involvement in the albums production I'm really unsure whether Kendricks album will get the attention it deserves. A Dr. Dre co-sign is nice but it doesn't sell records - Jay Rocks album only sold 5,000 copies in its first week despite getting Dre's approval. Kendrick needs a Dre beat (In Da Club, How We Do, etc.), something for the radio and the club. Section.80 was a great album but there was nothing on there for the masses.

tbh i never taught lamar was going to be the next big rapper from dre, he doesn't have the same commercial appeal as a eminem, snoop, 50, game etc his music isn't as appealing to the public and he has a completely different sound to previous dre artists maybe that's why he isn't actually signed to interscope/aftermath and this is where i personally think someone like jimmy iovine might have blocked/advised dre that he maybe wouldn't want an artist with no real huge commercial appeal/profit especially outside america to say some other relatively new artist like a drake, wiz khalifa etc.

imo lamar isn't your typical aftermath artist he has a lot more substance and intelligence behind his music, that's not to take anything away from other aftermath artists both past and present especially someone like a rakim but maybe there's a reason his album wasn't released under interscope/aftermath maybe the point i made in the first paragraph about commercial appeal etc has a lot to do with it, afterall aftermath is on a major through interscope and we know jimmy wont let dre just put anything out without a buzz behind it just ask bishop and i personally see slim da mobster going down the same route as bishop lamont.

i think even if dre or em ft'd on a lamar track he still wouldn't have a big commercial impact certainty not on the level of say snoop or g unit etc, its not because he isn't talented enough because most of us know he is arguably more talented than all those listed above.

For me it has a lot to do with the current direction of hip hop and its current sound, i don't really have lamar down as the commercial type thats not to say he wont lean in that hip pop direction as say a drake, wiz etc when it comes to that radio single etc to gain more of a buzz but i really think lamars sound is unique and we saw his efforts for singles on section 80 with hii power etc great music but as you said it aint for the masses and it wont put him on the map commercially as big as previous aftermath artists...

jay rock went in the same direction, kept it really strictly gangsta hip hop. dre gave it the nod yes but really if that album was released on aftermath the lead singles would have been a lot more radio friendly especially in todays hip hop climate. Dre had nothing to lose it was a good gangsta hip hop album and i think thats the way jay rock wanted it to sound and i admire him for it.

but look that was a digital album, the next one is his official debut so lets see what he comes with hopefully the wait wont be too long.

mufcboy1999 · 18-01-2012 7:29pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPrbCQD1vec

conor.hogan.2 · 20-01-2012 12:09pm

Section.80, after listening to it fully, and after reading the story behind it is a very solid album.

He has an ear for good beats and lyrics are good. I still stand behind my original point of a lot of the good parts being drowned out by the bad songs and some songs being too long and repetitive while others being way too short. But he is way way way better than I gave him credit for.

Cole I am still feeling a bit "meh" about him, some good songs but with him the amount of average songs is really drowning out the good ones - but again lots of people could be loving those exact songs. If some of his songs were shorter I would love a lot of them - 5 minutes songs with 3 minutes of content or less imo.

Does Cole produce? The beats of Lamar and Cole are always deadly, I don't think I heard a bad beat they rapped over yet.

PrettyBoy · 20-01-2012 1:16pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Does Cole produce? The beats of Lamar and Cole are always deadly, I don't think I heard a bad beat they rapped over yet.

Yep, Cole produces most of his own stuff and has done a few tracks for Kendrick. The two of them were working on a collab album at one point but not sure what the status of that project is at the moment.

Here's a snippet of a song the two did together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQDF3NUheZM

mufcboy1999 · 20-01-2012 2:27pm

Does Cole produce? The beats of Lamar and Cole are always deadly, I don't think I heard a bad beat they rapped over yet.

Yep, Cole produces most of his own stuff and has done a few tracks for Kendrick.

as far as i know they only have officially collabed once and that was on hii power, what other songs do you know of lads?... i cant think of anymore songs

on the cole/lamar collab album, it isn't going to happen this year imo because of lamars debut but also the group he is in black hippy have an album this year too... very unlikely we would see 3 lamar projects in one year, you never know though.

He has an ear for good beats and lyrics are good. I still stand behind my original point of a lot of the good parts being drowned out by the bad songs and some songs being too long and repetitive while others being way too short. But he is way way way better than I gave him credit for.

i think he got the balance perfect tbh considering the story he was trying to tell, i think some of the interludes/skits before songs were a nice fit too, it allowed some songs to blend into one another nicely.

a perfect example of an album that's over cooked and repetitive is kanye's mbdtf, there were just some pointless unnecessary moments on that album, i personally don't see how lamar can be accused of being repetitive or drowned out by bad songs that were too long on section 80, it was to me a very unique album with a very original sound and topic.

conor.hogan.2 · 20-01-2012 6:00pm

Cheers.

Definitely like both of their beats, not a bad one between them and some absolute quality ones also.

Ye the hiiiipower movement or whatever you want to call it is very interesting, inspired by 2pacs TL and tbh it is a lot easier to "sell" as it can not be misconstrued as much as TL was.

No not drowned out on section.80, most songs are quality or at least good. But in general I find some of the material to be bad and some of his songs should be longer and some should be shorter.

But definitely for Cole he is very hit at miss rapping wise - pretty much all of his songs are 2 minutes longer than they should be with him singing the hook several times and other random repetitiveness but overall much better than I initially gave them credit for.

PrettyBoy · 21-01-2012 12:58am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

as far as i know they only have officially collabed once and that was on hii power, what other songs do you know of lads?... i cant think of anymore songs

I only know of the 2 leaked songs ('Temptations' and 'Shock The World') but I read somewhere that they've recorded 10 tracks together for their project, will try to find a link.

PrettyBoy · 22-01-2012 6:53pm

Are Kendrick Lamar and Game Working On a Mixtape?

Game and fellow Compton, Ca., native Kendrick Lamar have been making music together for six years now. Most recently, Kendrick appeared on Game’s “The City” off of last year’s The R.E.D. Album. But, could the friends be gearing up for a bigger collaboration? Word on the street is that the two have clandestinely been working on a joint mixtape.

“Oh man, that sounds tight,” Kendrick told XXLMag.com about the collabo last week in Los Angeles. “That’s a good rumor.”

While Kendrick denies a mixtape for now, he did give an insight as to what it is like working with his older homie.

“Me and game in the studio is war,” Kendrick said with a smile. “Game is out to be the best. I’m out to be the best. When you have two people in the lab that has the chemistry… Sometimes you’ll have two good artists in the lab and they don’t have the chemistry. Sometimes you have to [distinguish] people from being rap friends and real friends. But we have the best of both worlds. When you have two of us in there trying to write the craziest verse, it’s going to come out to a crazy song at the end of the day. That’s what’s needed in hip-hop: friendly competition.”

Kendrick says away from the mic, Game drops jewels on him constantly.

“I got in the lab with Game in ’06,” Kendrick shared, “I go all the way back. I was on one of his mixtapes. He gave me the opportunity to showcase my skills. Just the vibe around him, he plays the role of big homie. He obviously done touched spots in this industry that I’m trying to touch. Every time I’m around him he schools me on different aspects of what to do and what not to do. He’s made mistakes that he’s manned up to and admits. Just being a man and coming to me at that just shows me the ropes. It’s all love. It lets me know I have genuine people that are in it for my best interests.”

But back to the Kendrick and Game mixtape rumor. If that project ever comes to fruition, would Dr. Dre give the duo a track?

“Hell yeah!” Kendrick said emphatically. “If this was a good rumor, all the way past rumor times two, you would definitely get one of them [Dre beats]. I’m just now hearing about [the rumored mixtape] truthfully.” —Shaheem Reid

LINK: http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2012/01/are-kendrick-lamar-and-game-working-on-a-mixtape/

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