Hannibal [NBC/Sky Living] [ Spoilers ]

Staplor · 15-04-2013 3:12pm

First episode was a bit meh, second episode ramped up a good bit, looking forward to episode 3 now!

Duck Soup · 15-04-2013 6:40pm

I'm enjoying it. Mads Mikkelsen plays it just right as Lecter - although I suspect he could do softly-spoken psychopaths in his sleep by now - and the support cast is solid.

I have a few things that I'll be interested to see work out. I'm probably the opposite of Ipso, insofar as I prefer to see a case of the week rather than an overarching season storyline. It always reminds me of how the X Files in their later years went from their patented Spooky of The Week (Tooms, the Peacock Family etc) to the grand conspiracies. It just feels like a show running out of ideas.

So it'll be interesting to see what structure the show takes. Also whether Will starts to twig that Lecter is not the full shilling (or rather, when). A lot will depend on the quality of the baddies du jour. They need to be varied and surprising.

We'll also see how the visual tricks pan out. Some shows use them successfully for years - Cold Case and its flashbacks for example - so I wonder how well the Will-in-the-killer's-place device will hold up. Dancy will do well to stand up on screen to Mikkelsen on one side and Fishburne on the other. It's vital to the show that Will holds the attention in the same way Lecter does.

JP Liz V1 · 16-04-2013 2:23pm

Starts 7th of May 2013 on Sky Living

conorhal · 17-04-2013 12:01pm

I'm not that impressed so far. The show feels like a bog standard 'Criminal Minds' procedural with a serial killer of the week format when it could have been so much more.
I hate what the producers have done with Graham. Making references to him as Asperger's sufferer feels cheap and reductive, it just reaks of some producer pacing around a room shouting, 'but what's his hook? People love a flawed detective with a quirk, like that 'Monk' show! I know, make him the autistic detective!' It's that kind of blundering stupidity that sorta ignores the fact that people that suffer from autism and aspergers tend to have a great deal of difficulty with empathy and emotional intelligence.
In fact the whole 'empath' thing really bugged me, Graham seems to use it like a super power to magically pluck clues out of the air in a manner that feels more like a lazy writer using a crap plot device to write himself out of a corner then it does a brilliant detective intuiting a pattern in the chaos of a murder scene.

As for where the show might go. Who knows. I had been sort of hoping that it would center around Hannibal's practice, with Wil refered to him as his psychiatrist, who is supposed to help him deal with the stresses of his caseload, as well as the some of the ancillary characters that he treats in the books. There would be endless scope for mind games and clever detective work, instead we get a routine procedural.

Padraig Mor · 17-04-2013 12:44pm

Sitec wrote: »

Going to give this a watch, I'm enjoying the show so far but some bits are a bit cringe. Nice to have something fresh to watch every week again. All I watch is crime/cop shows!

Manhunter? You should! It's relatively unknown, but still the best 'Hannibal Lecter' movie. Unfortunately it's the Anthony Hopkins versions that get the attention, but Manhunter is Michael Mann at the top of his game.

Richard Dower · 18-04-2013 3:05am

Gillian Anderson still looks great! http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/17/gillian-anderson-hannibal-photo/

opr · 18-04-2013 2:17pm

Agree completely with Conorhal. This show could have been something great. Stellar cast, wonderful material and so far from the first two episodes a very good production team behind the show. I really think whoever made this has missed a huge trick for what could have been by trying to turn it into yet another police procedural admittedly with a slightly cool twist. It's almost a complete ripoff of that other paint by numbers procedural show called Criminal Minds.

Saying all that for what it is then it has been quite decent but it had the potential with the ingredients to be something special which is what's so infuriating. I guess it's hard to argue that it's just giving audiences what they want as the sheer number of them airing will testify towards. Mads Mikkelsen is fantastic in the role, shame that such great fit is going to go to waste.

Opr

expectationlost · 18-04-2013 2:30pm

one presumes all those shows were all trying to copy manhunter/silence of the lambs

opr · 19-04-2013 7:43pm

Third episode was really good. Veered away from the motw narrative and kept the story moving at a good pace. The production value and acting are a cut above in this show.

Opr

19-04-2013 9:27pm

Watched the first episode and enjoyed it. It's very much a procedural with all the usual tropes and cliches on display but visually it's leagues ahead of any other.

Graham is quite a poor character, gone is the resourceful, intelligent, hard ass of Michael Mann's exceptional Manhunter and replaced by a whiny, broken man who has all the tics and social anxieties that producers love. He's such a cliched character here that one can't help but think of a dozen others, thankfully at least he's a little more interesting than Reed from Criminsl Minds.

The killer of the week angle is disappointing but I'm hoping that the overall story will come to the fore early on. Would be nice to see each season adapt one of the novels and expand upon them.

Hannibal himself is a really interesting character and far more likeable and charismatic than Joe from The Following. Hannibal has a lot in common with the Following yet succeeds where the Following fails. There's a lot of vicious, nasty violence on display here but it feels necessary and there's never a sense that its there to titillate or that the show revels in its depravity.

expectationlost · 19-04-2013 10:09pm

was pyscho chaser could become pyscho killer ever a part of the books, or was it just hannibal lectors character that had that element, it did confuse me that they kinda spread that to both characters in this

ps some suggestion from producer of postponing next week hannibal ep too

QikBax · 19-04-2013 10:19pm

Spoilered in case anyone hasn't seen Manhunter:

Don't forget that in Manhunter Graham had captured Lecter and was further along in his FBI career. He had learned to deal with some of his psychological problems.

Although I would agree that this portrayal is a bit too tortured and precious but it's early days

I'm enjoying it. It's fantastic visually. At least it's not exploitative or schlocky like other recent Serial Killer dramas namely The Following.

19-04-2013 10:23pm

expectationlost wrote: »

was pyscho chaser could become pyscho killer ever a part of the books, or was it just hannibal lectors character that had that element, it did confuse me that they kinda spread that to both characters in this

ps some suggestion from producer of postponing next week hannibel ep too

It's been years since I read the books but I don't recall there bring anything about Graham fearing he may become a killer.

As for postponing an episode, I expect its in light of events in the US this past week and considering some of the reaction to violent shows after the spree killings lady year it may be best if they do postpone till the week after. The media will take every opportunity to create uproar and will latch on to violent films, TV and games in a few days.

expectationlost · 19-04-2013 11:43pm

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/nbc-pulls-episode-4-of-hannibal-in-wake-of-newtown-boston-bombings-1200390579/

Fourth episode of the grisly serial killer drama featured Molly Shannon’s character brainwashing kids, leading them to kill other children.

Decision arose after series creator Bryan Fuller phoned NBC and told the net that, “given the cultural climate right now in the U.S., I think we shouldn’t air the episode in its entirety.”

shock horror nbc couldn't committ to following through on a horror show.

its realworld horrors that inspired these further horros not a tv show

Sitec · 20-04-2013 4:52pm

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Manhunter? You should! It's relatively unknown, but still the best 'Hannibal Lecter' movie. Unfortunately it's the Anthony Hopkins versions that get the attention, but Manhunter is Michael Mann at the top of his game.

Watched Manhunter today, excellent film! Weirdo with the deaf bird

20-04-2013 6:53pm

Watched episode 2 last night and it was something of a let down. Visually it was still gorgeous and there were a few interesting ideas in play, the mushroom garden was one of the most disgustingly brilliant images in a long time. The killer was caught far too quickly and the final confrontation was about as interesting and thrilling as watching a paper bag caught in a sewer grate. The final ten minutes were far too rushed and the episode in general played out as a procedural going through the motions.

The character of Freddie Lounds is terrible and ara Jean Chorostecki gives a very poor performance though I imagine that much of that is due to how poorly written the character is. Compare the portrayal to that of Stephan Lang in Mann's Manhunter and they could not be worlds apart. Lang played Lounds as a sleazy, vile rat who was inherently unlikeable yet you sympathized with him. Here the character is just unlikeable and not at all interesting.

Graham also hasn't improved. He comes across like a teenager trying to be angry and deep, kind of like a poor mans Frank Black. Millennium is quite an apt comparison as both shows deal with good men who face the worst of the world and try not to let it pollute their lives. Black was one of TV's most interesting and challenging characters, he felt like a fully rounded and flawed character whereas Graham feels like something whipped together in a boardroom. It's clear that those involved felt that they had to find a niche for him so that he could fit in around every other flawed investigator on TV atm. It's a real shame that they got rid of his wife and child but I suppose they want to introduce a generic love story involving a coworker at some stage and if he was already married then we may lose sympathy for him.

I'm still very much enjoying the show. Hannibal is a fantastic character and Mikkelson's performance is superb. Based on the two episodes I've seen to date, I'd go so far as to call him the most chilling and humane incarnation so far. Gone are the pantomime theatrics of Hopkins, replaced by a cold, calculating and evil character whose ever moment on screen is a joy to behold.

The Black Oil · 20-04-2013 8:55pm

conorhal wrote: »

I'm not that impressed so far. The show feels like a bog standard 'Criminal Minds' procedural with a serial killer of the week format when it could have been so much more.
I hate what the producers have done with Graham. Making references to him as Asperger's sufferer feels cheap and reductive, it just reaks of some producer pacing around a room shouting, 'but what's his hook? People love a flawed detective with a quirk, like that 'Monk' show! I know, make him the autistic detective!' It's that kind of blundering stupidity that sorta ignores the fact that people that suffer from autism and aspergers tend to have a great deal of difficulty with empathy and emotional intelligence.
In fact the whole 'empath' thing really bugged me, Graham seems to use it like a super power to magically pluck clues out of the air in a manner that feels more like a lazy writer using a crap plot device to write himself out of a corner then it does a brilliant detective intuiting a pattern in the chaos of a murder scene.

I suppose it's a bit of a gimmick, but as I said earlier, it's somewhat of the 'go to' diagnosis in popular culture. It's in a certain Danish/Swedish show and is handled with maturity, without hitting the viewer over head whilst still being a core part of the character. As to the empathy aspect, my interpretation from the pilot is that they wanted to take an inherently negative trait associated with the condition and flip it to turn it into a positive. Hence him having 'pure empathy', or whatever they called it. Even though in some sense he can't really connect empathetically that much in the day to day human sphere, or at least his alleged diagnosis is supposed to suggest that, he can use empathy in his consultation work.

1.03 was solid enough. Reporter's still annoying and gets behind police cordons too easily. Focused on the main story rather than MOTW, which was good. At least they gave that other psychiatrist a bit to do other worry about Graham.

TwoShedsJackson · 22-04-2013 11:37am

Enjoyed the first three episodes. Mikkelsen is great and although Freddie is getting into crime scenes etc way too easily that's the only notably bad thing so far.

So episode 4 will not be broadcast in the US due to it's

children brainwashing and killing children

storyline, guess we may have to wait until Sky Living show it unless it leaks somewhere?

Basq · 22-04-2013 2:47pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

So episode 4 will not be broadcast in the US due to it's
children brainwashing and killing children
storyline, guess we may have to wait until Sky Living show it unless it leaks somewhere?

Probably will just be postponed, and shown later in the season.

Richard Dower · 24-04-2013 9:40pm

A shortened version of the pulled from schedule episode 4 will air online as a webseries, i'm told other countries will air the full episode and will no doubt surface online: http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/abridged-version-of-pulled-hannibal-episode-to-run-as-web-series/

24-04-2013 10:20pm

Richard Dower wrote: »

, i'm told other countries will air the full/[/url]

You write that as if you have some inside knowledge of the decision making when in fact you're just reiterating information from the linked article.

Duck Soup · 24-04-2013 10:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm still very much enjoying the show. Hannibal is a fantastic character and Mikkelson's performance is superb. Based on the two episodes I've seen to date, I'd go so far as to call him the most chilling and humane incarnation so far. Gone are the pantomime theatrics of Hopkins, replaced by a cold, calculating and evil character whose ever moment on screen is a joy to behold.

Mikkelsen definitely raises the show up a level. Take him out of it and it could dip alarmingly. I still worry about the strength of Hugh Dancy as a presence to fill the central role. He's emoting intensity, it's coming across as mildly miffed.

Still plenty of time for things to coalesce of course. Virtually every show that's had legs in any TV genre - from ER and Grey's Anatomy to X-Files and CSI and Law & Order - succeeded because it had a strong ecosystem of well-developed supporting characters.

I don't get that feeling from Hannibal yet, but like I say, early days.

Richard Dower · 25-04-2013 4:59pm

A webrip of the unaired episode 4 is now out there.....
....episode 5 will air on NBC tonight.

expectationlost · 02-05-2013 2:12pm

watching the third ep still don't know why the brunette shrink is so worried about the main guy, and what she is to him.

Richard Dower · 02-05-2013 6:49pm

Brian Fuller has five seasons planned out.....how many times have i heard this before :rolleyes:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/interviews/a477252/hugh-dancy-hannibal-qa-bryan-fuller-has-planned-out-five-seasons.html

^ um....NO he dosen't you muppet!....he has major bullet points thought up, he has NO IDEA what each and every script is. Now if he had written 100 full scripts before the show launched the fair dues.

Network honchos always ask...what happens in season 5 etc., they really got no feckin clue!, they just want a job and will say anything for a pickup.

FYI--> episode 6 is out there...

02-05-2013 7:01pm

Richard Dower wrote: »

Brian Fuller has five seasons planned out.....how many times have i heard this before :rolleyes:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/interviews/a477252/hugh-dancy-hannibal-qa-bryan-fuller-has-planned-out-five-seasons.html

^ um....NO he dosen't you muppet!....he has major bullet points thought up, he has NO IDEA what each and every script is. Now if he had written 100 full scripts before the show launched the fair dues.

Network honchos always ask...what happens in season 5 etc., they really got no feckin clue!, they just want a job and will say anything for a pickup.

Just because he doesn't have scripts for five seasons does not mean that he hasn't them planned out. Most writers who create a show of their own know the story they want to tell and will have a good idea of how long it will take. Eric Kripke started Supernatural and had the entire narrative mapped out. Few writers would have the time or ability to sit down and write five seasons worth of material before a show was commissioned but what they will have is how they see it playing out.

Richard Dower · 02-05-2013 7:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because he doesn't have scripts for five seasons does not mean that he hasn't them planned out. Most writers who create a show of their own know the story they want to tell and will have a good idea of how long it will take. Eric Kripke started Supernatural and had the entire narrative mapped out. Few writers would have the time or ability to sit down and write five seasons worth of material before a show was commissioned but what they will have is how they see it playing out.

^ let me direct you to three writers who write everything, Michael Hirst = vikings/Camelot. Jim Sherridan = The Borgias......and as cheesy and bad as it is: Brenda Hampton on The Secret Life Of The American Teenager writes every script!

So they can do it, but they don't because many of them are of the JJ ilk....get your name attached and a paycheck, they have 6 feckin shows on the hop at once :rolleyes:

Oh and TVBTN has this earmarked this as on the bubble....even the Cancellation Bear is giving it a facepalm

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/30/nbc-hannibal-tumbles-to-a-toss-up-to-be-canceled-or-renewed/179994/

02-05-2013 7:48pm

Richard Dower wrote: »

^ let me direct you to three writers who write everything, Michael Hirst = vikings/Camelot. Jim Sherridan = The Borgias......and as cheesy and bad as it is: Brenda Hampton on The Secret Life Of The American Teenager writes every script!

So they can do it, but they don't because many of them are of the JJ ilk....get your name attached and a paycheck, they have 6 feckin shows on the hop at once :rolleyes:

Oh and TVBTN has this earmarked this as on the bubble....even the Cancellation Bear is giving it a facepalm

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/30/nbc-hannibal-tumbles-to-a-toss-up-to-be-canceled-or-renewed/179994/

Last time I checked it was Neil Jordan was writing the Borgias alongside 3 or 4 other writers. There is a difference between writing all the episodes of a show, (J. Michael Straczynski did it with Babylon 5) and having all the seasons scripts written before it goes into production which was what your post was mocking him for. There is no writer out there, bar J. Michael Straczynski who got a multi season show planned out and had most/all the scripts written before that pilot was shot. It's simply too time consuming.

expectationlost · 05-05-2013 2:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's been years since I read the books but I don't recall there bring anything about Graham fearing he may become a killer.

As for postponing an episode, I expect its in light of events in the US this past week and considering some of the reaction to violent shows after the spree killings lady year it may be best if they do postpone till the week after. The media will take every opportunity to create uproar and will latch on to violent films, TV and games in a few days.

so finally got around to watching manhunter, the process of thinking like the killer so much so that a) catches them b) fears for his own sanity is put in mental institution and himself and others are afraid of him is there in the film, but actor william petterson is an achingly cool dude in the film not so much like this aspergers like dweeb we have, and dr bloom is there and says a few concerned things to him but not much.

dubscottie · 08-05-2013 1:35am

Crapp.. Then again if its on Sky means no other station will touch it..

Was looking good till they used mobile phones..

Mr Lector did not have them in 1980's..

But wait.. He is come back and has lost weight.

Big let down. As per Sky. Made to look better than it is..

Nuttzz · 08-05-2013 12:18pm

dubscottie wrote: »

Crapp.. Then again if its on Sky means no other station will touch it..

Was looking good till they used mobile phones..

Mr Lector did not have them in 1980's..

But wait.. He is come back and has lost weight.

Big let down. As per Sky. Made to look better than it is..

I'm not sure it is supposed to be set in the 80's.

To me its not designed to be some sort of precursor to Red Dragon, there are a few hat tips to Red Dragon in the dialogue.

For a first episode it wasnt bad, I'm not going to write it off after 1 episode, far to early to do that

any theories why lector tipped off hobbs?

08-05-2013 2:55pm

dubscottie wrote: »

Crapp.. Then again if its on Sky means no other station will touch it..

No what it means is that Sky outbid everyone else or else they have a first option on that networks shows.

dubscottie wrote: »

Was looking good till they used mobile phones..

Mr Lector did not have them in 1980's..

Considering that the show is set now the use of mobiles is more than acceptable.

dubscottie wrote: »

But wait.. He is come back and has lost weight.

No idea what the hell you are on about there.

dubscottie wrote: »

Big let down. As per Sky. Made to look better than it is..

Made to look to better than it is? You mean that it has slick production values but there's not much going on? That's more than acceptable considering it's not marketed as a high brow show

Nuttzz wrote: »

any theories why lector tipped off hobbs?

Being insane explains away that though I think it was because he wanted to create a situation where will would be forced to use extreme force.

DavidHabsburg · 08-05-2013 3:17pm

I have watched a few episodes online and I am actually enjoying it.

I went into it with an open mind and I think that Mads Mikkelsen is perfect for the role of Dr. Lecter. I think it is best to view this series as completely independent of any other adaptations of Harris' work.

I think the show is quite extreme and graphic in its violence but it works quite well. I love the inclusion of Freddie Lounds (and the sex-change!)

I really hope they don't screw this up though, I worry that this show will get tired and boring very soon...(hope I'm wrong though)

betonit · 08-05-2013 9:29pm

I think lector looks all wrong and is actually hard to understand. graham is over intense

irishthump · 09-05-2013 8:47pm

I watched the first episode on Sky on Tuesday night and was not overly impressed.

Don't get me wrong it's slick, well made and it has a fine cast, but I was very disappointed with the portrayal of the main characters and their back stories and this stems from being a huge fan of the novels.

While I found Mikkelsen and Fishburne excellent my biggest gripe was with the portrayal of Will Graham. While there's nothing wrong Dancy's
acting I just could'nt take the character seriously. (Why would you let this guy have a gun?!)

The trouble is you've got what is basically another CSI series with Lecter's name tagged onto it, the producers of the show have twisted the characters to fit them into the context of their story. Mind you, Brett Ratner is partly to blame for starting the ball rolling with Red Dragon but that's another rant!

The Black Oil · 10-05-2013 11:21am

1.07

So, who wants Mads to come cook for them? :pac:
The cooking montage was entertaining, pornographic even, a little OTT, but fun.

Lecter's clearly using what leverage he has to mess with Crawford's head. Wonder if Graham twigged something in the ambulance scene.

10-05-2013 11:22am

Great to finally see Hannibal do some killing.

Miprocin · 10-05-2013 11:51am

I'm enjoying this. For those who didn't like the first couple of episodes, stick with it, it gets better.

The cooking montage was entertaining, pornographic even, a little OTT, but fun.

Yeah, that was great.

MJ23 · 12-05-2013 6:17pm

I love this new show. Seen 7 episodes so far. Mads Mikkelsen is brilliant as Hannibal. Always a big fan of Morpheus too.
The show is very well made and the cookery scenes are great.
Looking forward to seeing more.
Does anyone know how many series there are going to be?

Richard Dower · 12-05-2013 6:20pm

MJ23 wrote: »

I love this new show. Seen 7 episodes so far. Mads Mikkelsen is brilliant as Hannibal. Always a big fan of Morpheus too.
The show is very well made and the cookery scenes are great.
Looking forward to seeing more.
Does anyone know how many series there are going to be?

well it hasent been cancelled yet....we're waiting to see what nbc decides.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/05/10/list-of-renewedcanceled-broadcast-scripted-shows-from-2012-13-season-updated/182190/

Charlie19 · 14-05-2013 1:26pm

I watched the first episode on Sky Living last night. Interesting show, I liked it.

sydthebeat · 14-05-2013 11:31pm

After the second one tonight, I'm hooked. Hannibal is genuinely unnerving. will grahame IS the character from red dragon and the actor plays him so well. Cerebral and creepy... Excellent stuff

TheUsual · 15-05-2013 12:54am

Same here, on episode 2 so far.

Every time Hannibal cooks food, or acts nice just gives me the creeps. Very good so far.

stevenmu · 15-05-2013 10:59am

I have mixed feelings about this show. Sometimes it does manage to be genuinely disturbing, which is great. But there's just way too many shows at the moment where the lead is some kind of crime-solving genius with autism or some personality disorder, and so far Will is nowhere near the best of them.

Richard Dower · 15-05-2013 8:58pm

stiil no word on renewal?...this years Awake?

niallon · 16-05-2013 8:19pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I have mixed feelings about this show. Sometimes it does manage to be genuinely disturbing, which is great. But there's just way too many shows at the moment where the lead is some kind of crime-solving genius with autism or some personality disorder, and so far Will is nowhere near the best of them.

Could argue Thomas Harris first made that character type popular with Red Dragon. Swings and roundabouts.

I really can't cope with the fact this could be cancelled, it's not groundbreaking but damn if it isn't solid TV. Mads is the perfect Lecter, sinister yet when he's being "normal" you'd nearly love to sit down and have a chat with him! Totally messes with the viewers perceptions perfectly I think.

The Black Oil · 17-05-2013 11:33am

1.08

Again, the visuals were strong, and I generally liked it, although it did feel like they were just showing off with this one. And why not, I suppose. The body laid out on the stage/in the theatre was pretty impressive for the scale of that scene.

Not the first time there's been a death or two in Hannibal's office. Credit to the make up team as he looked pretty messed up after the fight. I don't think it's insignificant that he killed Tobias with a statue of the animal Will keeps dreaming about - an elk?

niallon · 17-05-2013 11:49am

The Black Oil wrote: »

1.08

Again, the visuals were strong, and I generally liked it, although it did feel like they were just showing off with this one. And why not, I suppose. The body laid out on the stage/in the theatre was pretty impressive for the scale of that scene.

Not the first time there's been a death or two in Hannibal's office. Credit to the make up team as he looked pretty messed up after the fight. I don't think it's insignificant that he killed Tobias with a statue of the animal Will keeps dreaming about - an elk?

Never copped that, well played! Why did he cover hus prints if he was going to allow the cops come and play it out as self defense is my question? When I saw the hankie come out I was thinking cover up.... And that Tobias and Franklin were going in the freezer!

Two main gripes with this episode:

Hannibal played a dangerous game tipping off Will. What was stopping Tobias ratting him out as revenge whilst captured? Seemed to be a very strange gamble that Hannibal just hoped Tobias would be killed in pursuit. He would have been better served poisoning the food after all!

Also Crawford suddenly growing suspicions over Lester thwarting Tobias.... Until now he has been lodged in Lecter's rectum gushing over his food and confiding in him, now he suddenly isn't too sure.... Bit of a leap as until now I've been seeing the Crawford character in a somewhat incompetent light tbh.

Again Mads and Anderson were the best thing in the episode, great back and forth and a nice slow reveal of their relationship through the episode.

And I'll second the above, kudos on the makeup!

The Black Oil · 17-05-2013 12:01pm

Yeah, I didn't think he was going to leave the bodies lying around. That puts him too much on the FBI's radar, surely.

niallon · 17-05-2013 12:20pm

The Black Oil wrote: »

Yeah, I didn't think he was going to leave the bodies lying around. That puts him too much on the FBI's radar, surely.

Thought that myself. Also escalates suspicion around him way too quickly given that Fuller has said he would like to tackle Red Dragon in season four, doesn't that mean then that Graham can't ever get too suspicious of Lecter until then?

Doesn't Lecter have a combat/martial arts background thanks to Hannibal Rising? Or is that just the movie? (never read the book, movie was bad enough). If that could have been a reveal along the lines of "I was scared but knew I could handle myself cause of blah blah" then suspicions wouldn't be so high. He could simply tell the FBI he has the required training to defend himself. As it stands they're wondering how this namby pamby dandy doctor killed a psychopath

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