Water Filters

Cole · 19-07-2008 4:38pm #1

Is there much of a difference between the different types of water filter jugs? They seem to vary quite a bit in price.

I've never used one before, but I drink water regularly and reckon it might be the safest way to consume it. I buy bottled water at the moment (Aldi/Lidl) but am still sceptical as to the 'purity' of bottled water.

Khannie · 21-07-2008 3:13pm

Reverse osmosis is the way to go if you're looking for really pure water but it costs a fair bit to get installed (after that the filters cost about the same as brita). I'd say have a look around and you should find some for semi-reasonable money (250-350). In the long run you'll definitely save money v's bottled water (not to mention the environmental benefits).

rubadub · 22-07-2008 10:36am

If you are in a area with decent enough water then a bog standard brita or brita clone will do you fine, or get an inline filter.

Filtered tap water is usually a lot better than bottled waters too, there are many sites about it. In the catering & beverage industry this is common knowledge. Bottled water is one of the biggest marketing scams of all time.

Transform · 22-07-2008 7:56pm

www.simplywater.ie

have used them for over 10years and have to say they do great filters, easy to buy, install and replace the filter when its used up

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 11:01am

Sorry to rehash old threads, but does anyone know if that reverse osmosis system takes the sodium fluoride out of the water? Or if not that, is there any cheap option that will do so?

gctest50 · 02-09-2014 11:16am

Connollacken wrote: »

Sorry to rehash old threads, but does anyone know if that reverse osmosis system takes the sodium fluoride out of the water? ...

you'd have a bit of reverse osmosis first to take the load off a ion-exchange unit

very important bit : you'd need a re-hardener afterwards for the drinking water to protect the missus from osteoporosis

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 11:37am

Good to know.. is that an extra thing that you'd have to buy?

Wouldn't want her getting that. I'd never hear the end of it

jh79 · 02-09-2014 11:45am

According to wiki they are only 5-15% efficient so your water bill could increase 6 fold.

This type of water is only meant for use in laboratories it isn't good for your health.

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 11:52am

Weird how they market it domestically then.. bastards.

Would you have any alternative solution to this, in terms of filtering out sodium fluoride and the likes?

jh79 · 02-09-2014 11:53am

Connollacken wrote: »

Weird how they market it domestically then.. bastards.

Would you have any alternative solution to this, in terms of filtering out sodium fluoride and the likes?

No reason to remove fluoride it is at a perfectly safe level.

Would you drink San Pellingrino water? It has practically the same level of fluoride as Irish water.

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 12:06pm

Granted a certain level of it is perfectly safe, but there's no possible way of controlling the varying degrees of fluoride across the whole country. I'd just prefer to decide for myself how much I want to consume. An excess amount of it can be really harmful in so many different ways and in my opinion shouldn't be in our waters at all. However this is out of my hands, so all I can do is look after my own ass.

I have read though that there are filters that can remove it from the water. The water jug filters however do not do this

jh79 · 02-09-2014 12:11pm

Connollacken wrote: »

Granted a certain level of it is perfectly safe, but there's no possible way of controlling the varying degrees of fluoride across the whole country. I'd just prefer to decide for myself how much I want to consume. An excess amount of it can be really harmful in so many different ways and in my opinion shouldn't be in our waters at all. However this is out of my hands, so all I can do is look after my own ass.

I have read though that there are filters that can remove it from the water. The water jug filters however do not do this

The levels of fluoride are controlled across the country, the results of the lab analysis are available on the county council websites. These are done in the state labs and by external contract labs on a regular basis. Very little variation maybe 1mg/L.

jh79 · 02-09-2014 12:19pm

Do you drink tea?

If so, have 1-2 less cups of tea a day this will give you a drop in fluoride intake equivalent to installing a reverse osmosis filter and it won't cost you a penny.

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 12:25pm

Maybe there is very little variation, but they can hardly test every drop of water in our system. I know I'm being pedantic here, but to be honest I just wouldn't trust something that was first introduced in America, then rejected by nearly every country in Europe. Except for Ireland of course.

I've read too much about it to trust it and I would just prefer to medicate myself if I need to

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 12:27pm

haha.. I don't drink tea no. Valuable point though

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 1:19pm

I see this argument/debate has been repeated time and time again on Boards.. Not here to argue my point or anything, because clearly it'll get us nowhere. I see you were heavily involved in the other side of the debate, which is absolutely fine, but I just wanted to know if there was a filter that could remove this from the water

taidghbaby · 02-09-2014 1:42pm

There's no point in using a filter...because ya know water remembers stuff like!

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 2:00pm

Good point taidgh, I'm glad you were here to help

jh79 · 02-09-2014 2:24pm

Connollacken wrote: »

I see this argument/debate has been repeated time and time again on Boards.. Not here to argue my point or anything, because clearly it'll get us nowhere. I see you were heavily involved in the other side of the debate, which is absolutely fine, but I just wanted to know if there was a filter that could remove this from the water

The reverse osmosis system is your only option.

It will remove the minerals from your water which is obviously not good and will require the input of up to 10L of water to produce 1L of filtered water and regular maintenance.

Because this filtered water is of a lesser quality than the mains water you will also have to change your diet to make up for the minerals lost in the filtration process.

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 2:40pm

I thought you said reverse osmosis was not a suitable option, as the soft water is meant to be used in labs only?

Seems like a lot of effort for clean water.. Thanks though for the heads up

jh79 · 02-09-2014 3:26pm

Connollacken wrote: »

I thought you said reverse osmosis was not a suitable option, as the soft water is meant to be used in labs only?

Seems like a lot of effort for clean water.. Thanks though for the heads up

This type of water is meant for laboratory use and I wouldn't drink it but if you want to remove fluoride it is the only option. 100% pure water is not meant for human consumption. We need the impurities (nutrients) in mains / spring water both of which contain fluoride at varying amounts.

You already have clean , safe water get a britta filter if you want to improve the taste.

papu · 02-09-2014 3:56pm

Connollacken wrote: »

I thought you said reverse osmosis was not a suitable option, as the soft water is meant to be used in labs only?

Seems like a lot of effort for clean water.. Thanks though for the heads up

You seem to have done the research on what "shouldn't" be in the water , but nothing on what should and needs to be?

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 4:10pm

Not really no.. I was just reading a few things about sodium fluoride - both for and against - and came to the conclusion that I didn't like the idea of it.

That is why I addressed Boards though isn't. To learn more about a topic that I know nothing about, in the hopes that someone like jh79 might have some experience in this area. I wouldn't entirely agree with everything he has said, but nonetheless he's given me a very well educated answer on the matter. Something that I would definitely take into consideration

Connollacken · 02-09-2014 4:15pm

After doing the research though, there does seem to be plenty of filters focused around removing fluoride from the water. Clearly I'm not the only crack pot...

You probably are right about it removing all those other minerals though, so yea a changed diet to balance the loss of minerals received from unfiltered water seems to be the only option

taidghbaby · 02-09-2014 6:02pm

Connollacken wrote: »

After doing the research though, there does seem to be plenty of filters focused around removing fluoride from the water. Clearly I'm not the only crack pot...

You probably are right about it removing all those other minerals though, so yea a changed diet to balance the loss of minerals received from unfiltered water seems to be the only option

I think you'll find those "crackpots" have figured out a way of making money through deceitful scare mongering

Connollacken · 03-09-2014 12:55pm

Hardly scare mongering.. They're selling filters not warheads. And they're reputable businesses also that sell water filtration units, not Nazi propagandists. You act like people wanting to remove fluoride from their water is like them wanting to put sarin gas in your porridge. I've made the decision for myself, I didn't come here to try and force it on anybody else. Simply wanted to know if anybody knew of a cheap option.

Maybe some people don't want fluoride in their water, it's a perfectly reasonable request in my opinion. Regardless of any possible effects it may have, it's the simple fact of freedom to treat your own water however one wants to. Shouldn't be another's decision, no? That's exactly why the majority of Europe rejected it.

Cool down with accusative finger pointing please

jh79 · 03-09-2014 1:50pm

Connollacken wrote: »

Hardly scare mongering.. They're selling filters not warheads. And they're reputable businesses also that sell water filtration units, not Nazi propagandists. You act like people wanting to remove fluoride from their water is like them wanting to put sarin gas in your porridge. I've made the decision for myself, I didn't come here to try and force it on anybody else. Simply wanted to know if anybody knew of a cheap option.

Maybe some people don't want fluoride in their water, it's a perfectly reasonable request in my opinion. Regardless of any possible effects it may have, it's the simple fact of freedom to treat your own water however one wants to. Shouldn't be another's decision, no? That's exactly why the majority of Europe rejected it.

Cool down with accusative finger pointing please

So if I want no magnesium / chloride or high levels of manganese in my water do you think I should have my own personal supply provided by the government?

taidghbaby · 03-09-2014 1:54pm

Connollacken wrote: »

Hardly scare mongering.. They're selling filters not warheads. And they're reputable businesses also that sell water filtration units, not Nazi propagandists. You act like people wanting to remove fluoride from their water is like them wanting to put sarin gas in your porridge. I've made the decision for myself, I didn't come here to try and force it on anybody else. Simply wanted to know if anybody knew of a cheap option.

Maybe some people don't want fluoride in their water, it's a perfectly reasonable request in my opinion. Regardless of any possible effects it may have, it's the simple fact of freedom to treat your own water however one wants to. Shouldn't be another's decision, no? That's exactly why the majority of Europe rejected it.

Cool down with accusative finger pointing please

What a load of ****e! I did not say, act like or intimate any of the above!

I said it was deceitful to make profits by scaring people into believing that the levels of fluoride in Irish water is unsafe for human consumption! Is that not a fair assessment of what companies selling water flouridr filters do?

You seem to have a keen interest in the reputations of such companies! Will you now do some more "research" and find us the cheapest filter available in Ireland?

cluelez · 03-09-2014 2:00pm

I will do it:

http://www.wisofnature.com/pages/multimedia/db_doc.document?id=5213

EVA are accredited by the following international quality control organisations:
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UNITED KINGDOM
IAF (International Accreditation Forum) and IIC (International Industrial Certification)
(http://www.quality-register.co.uk)
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SOUTH KOREA
Department of Analysis and Certification of Drinking Water
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Food and Drug Administration AGREMENT USA /FDA
21CRF 170.1040
EVA’s manufacture involves raw materials approved by the Food and
Drug Administration:
Certification LEBENSMITTLE CONSULTING FOOD SPECIALISTS
(
US FDA 21 CFR 177.1040
)
The manufacturer of EVA filtration systems is accredited by:
•
World Assembly Division of the Water Quality Association
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Inchon Metropolitan City Institute of Health and Environment
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Korea Water Purifier Industry Cooperative (for domestic sale)
The efficiency of EVA’s water filtration system has been scientifically
proven by independent laboratories.
EVA Micron Mineral Water Purifier at a glance
•
Healthy: purifies water and adds nutrients
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Unique 8 stage filtration process
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Removes all the harmful and unwanted substances thanks to the
ceramic pore size: 0.2 of a micron.
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Economic: Filter cartridge lasts for 9 months
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Simple to install and easy to maintain
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Eco friendly
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No electricity, no plumbing: gravity powered
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Unlimited warranty on its structure (not spare parts)

7l
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eva-Advanced-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B0055CH0U6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409749153&sr=8-2&keywords=eva+water+filter

or

12l with infrared mineral tray
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eva-Advanced-Filtration-Infrared-Mineral/dp/B0055CB6JM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1409749153&sr=8-3&keywords=eva+water+filter

Connollacken · 03-09-2014 2:16pm

jh79 wrote: »

So if I want no magnesium / chloride or high levels of manganese in my water do you think I should have my own personal supply provided by the government?

Wouldn't that be great..
My point has been misstated sorry. Is fluoride not used as a sort of oral health benefit by being added to our water? I just think it should be up to each of us whether we want to ingest it or not, in order to improve our dental hygiene. And using a filter can reduce all of these added substances, which in turn means yes you can have your own personal supply I suppose.

taidghbaby wrote: »

What a load of ****e! I did not say, act like or intimate any of the above!

I said it was deceitful to make profits by scaring people into believing that the levels of fluoride in Irish water is unsafe for human consumption! Is that not a fair assessment of what companies selling water flouridr filters do?

You seem to have a keen interest in the reputations of such companies! Will you now do some more "research" and find us the cheapest filter available in Ireland?

I genuinely don't think it is. These companies haven't scared anybody. They simply market a filtration system that rids your water of fluoride. It's the forums and the various other websites that use the scare tactics I suppose, but some people are going to feel strongly about this subject. Those people however do not sell the products.

Gladly I will.

Connollacken · 03-09-2014 2:18pm

THANK YOU! God damn it, that's all I wanted.

Great find. Have you used it yourself?

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