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Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    - Weathers been nice, can head out for walks in the sun without getting soaked or blown away
    - only a few days till I get to open my Easter egg :)

    Hope your getting on alright, plenty more fishies in that big sea & ye never know a certain fish might swim back

    Some warmer weather and stuffing our faces with chocolate, I suppose we can't ask for too much more than that. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Got dumped tonight. :(

    Sorry to hear that WFY :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I've had the two extreme extremes over the last two weeks or so. Both I ended up getting myself out one night (after talking to nobody at all bar my mam during the week) and with the help of ecstasy, for the first time since I was in my teens, rediscovered my personality, the funny me, the one people want to be around, the cheeky gurrier. Also connected with people more now.

    But as some might have seen I've also had the near-unbearable paralysis and tension, doom-feeling, pass me the rope hell.

    I am somewhat on edge but have been basking in the memories of my last two nights out which has giving me some comfort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Got a wave of sudden dread and panic this morning. Wish it would just **** off


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I'm busy writing out most of my phone contacts, boring boring but keeping me from goin high or crashing at the minute..
    Trying to steer clear of too much caffeine and sugar as I often get the munchies when it's late and no one around to talk to.. Don't need anymore weight..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    bout when we first stared going out with girls/boys I'd have been about 16 ish, I can remember that if it lasted over a week it was serious,, and over two weeks got you the status of Going Steady lol Looking back at it I can see we weren't looking for relationships at all, we just had to have a boyfriend or girlfriend. Crazy Compatability all the other things were out of the window, and "We Knew Everything" then. Now I know less and less about more and more


    ooops I meant to ask, Gremlinterria said she'd be on here latr last night to chat, does thjat mean skype or something, or pming back and for


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    colrow wrote: »
    bout when we first stared going out with girls/boys I'd have been about 16 ish, I can remember that if it lasted over a week it was serious,, and over two weeks got you the status of Going Steady lol Looking back at it I can see we weren't looking for relationships at all, we just had to have a boyfriend or girlfriend. Crazy Compatability all the other things were out of the window, and "We Knew Everything" then. Now I know less and less about more and more


    ooops I meant to ask, Gremlinterria said she'd be on here latr last night to chat, does thjat mean skype or something, or pming back and for

    Pm since I was workin all night.

    Remember the days of the schoolyard fortnight special on relationships - even then I wasn't involved, oh dear..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    ol thanks for the info.

    I am so glad thdat my relationship has ended, it was really toxic, my oh was a very domineering woman, but it ended up with me having no freedom of thought, everything in the house and the small holding had to be done her way, so as I was worn down by this process, I ended up putting no input to anything, and its my property lol I do get feelings of sadness and maybe it'll work if we try again, I know it won't, I looked into why I left it until the pain was unbearable, and I have to own up cto fear of the unknown, can I cope on my own etc stopped me. I was a single parent of three kids, and it was after theyd flown away, my life became empty, there was no-one who needed me, except of course there was someone, and that was me, ................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Finally made an appointment with my doctor. Still no guarantee I'll go.
    But it's the first tiny step.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Definitely go anyway. I know it's daunting, you're just not sure what will happen but the doctor has dealt with all kinds of situations similar and otherwise to you. They wont be shocked with anything you say or look at you strangely. Just tell your story and they'll offer advice, you can discuss what to do from there. After you'll be delighted you went and wonder what you were worrying about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Definitely go anyway. I know it's daunting, you're just not sure what will happen but the doctor has dealt with all kinds of situations similar and otherwise to you. They wont be shocked with anything you say or look at you strangely. Just tell your story and they'll offer advice, you can discuss what to do from there. After you'll be delighted you went and wonder what you were worrying about.

    Thanks, I'll try. I've never said it to anyone out loud before. It doesn't feel real


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    phi3 wrote: »
    Thanks, I'll try. I've never said it to anyone out loud before. It doesn't feel real

    Saying it could take a huge weight off your shoulders. Hopefully they're a really nice doctor. It's all about the steps, going to the Doctors is a huge one and hopefully you'll make even more giant leaps afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Hi all. Well after a mentally exhausting 2 weeks with chronic anxiety I'm back to the psych doctor in the morning. I'm back on mirtazapine 1 week. I think the psych doc is adding in seroquel during the day time (I'm already on it at night) seeing as it knocks out my anxiety so fingers crossed. My mood is good otherwise, I'm not depressed just this generalised anxiety disorder of mine rearing its ugly head. Don't know where I have pulled the strength from to keep going the last few weeks its been like climbing a mountain and looking after 3 young kids at the same time, being mammy coupled with being an anxious wreck from morning to night. Anyway I'm still here, I'm alive and I'm fighting this. Had session with psychologist today who tells me on top of my anxiety disorder I also have obsessive tendencies, great stuff :eek:
    Swear to God its been brutal from morning to night anxiety, brain not switching off and thoughts racing, when my husband tells me hes off to work early in the morning my stomach churns at the thought of being alone but there you have it. hopefully the extra seroquel helps me:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Mister_Happy


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Hi all. Well after a mentally exhausting 2 weeks with chronic anxiety I'm back to the psych doctor in the morning. I'm back on mirtazapine 1 week. I think the psych doc is adding in seroquel during the day time (I'm already on it at night) seeing as it knocks out my anxiety so fingers crossed. My mood is good otherwise, I'm not depressed just this generalised anxiety disorder of mine rearing its ugly head. Don't know where I have pulled the strength from to keep going the last few weeks its been like climbing a mountain and looking after 3 young kids at the same time, being mammy coupled with being an anxious wreck from morning to night. Anyway I'm still here, I'm alive and I'm fighting this. Had session with psychologist today who tells me on top of my anxiety disorder I also have obsessive tendencies, great stuff :eek:
    Swear to God its been brutal from morning to night anxiety, brain not switching off and thoughts racing, when my husband tells me hes off to work early in the morning my stomach churns at the thought of being alone but there you have it. hopefully the extra seroquel helps me:)

    'Anyway I'm still here, I'm alive and I'm fighting this' - Great line. From the above post Your kicking it's ar*e.
    You should say that to yourself every morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    Word to the wise...be careful who you talk to online. not from this site i may add

    I knew there was something holding me back from meeting him.

    Excuse my French.... But what a prick.
    Better off on my own.
    Will take someone very special to change that!!!
    Trying to keep in positive frame of mind


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Hi all. Well after a mentally exhausting 2 weeks with chronic anxiety I'm back to the psych doctor in the morning. I'm back on mirtazapine 1 week. I think the psych doc is adding in seroquel during the day time (I'm already on it at night) seeing as it knocks out my anxiety so fingers crossed. My mood is good otherwise, I'm not depressed just this generalised anxiety disorder of mine rearing its ugly head. Don't know where I have pulled the strength from to keep going the last few weeks its been like climbing a mountain and looking after 3 young kids at the same time, being mammy coupled with being an anxious wreck from morning to night. Anyway I'm still here, I'm alive and I'm fighting this. Had session with psychologist today who tells me on top of my anxiety disorder I also have obsessive tendencies, great stuff :eek:
    Swear to God its been brutal from morning to night anxiety, brain not switching off and thoughts racing, when my husband tells me hes off to work early in the morning my stomach churns at the thought of being alone but there you have it. hopefully the extra seroquel helps me:)

    Struggling big time, am on 300 mg effexor, doc stopped 300mg zyban (wellbutrin) over the last week and started me on mirtazapine 2 days ago along with seroquel at night. I am barely functioning and sleep in the afternoons. Thankfully am on hols for 2 weeks. Mood is absolutely dreadful I feel dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Been really up for the past two weeks and been okay-ish for a while now but I'm on the verge of a spectacular come down, I can feel it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    I've been reading these threads concerning depression and anxiety etc. and think that medication from doctors or narcotics are not a long term solution.

    Many of the causes of depression and anxiety are the result of having too much time on ones hands and not knowing what to do with it. Sitting down and thinking about this, that and the other and worrying unnecessarily about matters.

    If the mind and body are involved in hard physical activities then one has little time for over thinking which can cause both anxiety and consequent depression.
    Many years ago depression was less of a problem in the population because people were much more active than they are today, sedentary lifestyle seems to be the norm now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I really need to find another solution than this, another night in A&E isn't fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Markhor wrote: »
    I've been reading these threads concerning depression and anxiety etc. and think that medication from doctors or narcotics are not a long term solution.

    Many of the causes of depression and anxiety are the result of having too much time on ones hands and not knowing what to do with it. Sitting down and thinking about this, that and the other and worrying unnecessarily about matters.

    If the mind and body are involved in hard physical activities then one has little time for over thinking which can cause both anxiety and consequent depression.
    Many years ago depression was less of a problem in the population because people were much more active than they are today, sedentary lifestyle seems to be the norm now.


    You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Yes being active can help a bit but it is often a chemical imbalance which causes mental illness. Its nowhere near as straightforward as you say and is a major insult to myself and others on this thread who suffer with all sorts of different disorders and mental illnesses, for you to say that more activity would prevent them occuring, that is simply untrue.:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    noah45 wrote: »
    Struggling big time, am on 300 mg effexor, doc stopped 300mg zyban (wellbutrin) over the last week and started me on mirtazapine 2 days ago along with seroquel at night. I am barely functioning and sleep in the afternoons. Thankfully am on hols for 2 weeks. Mood is absolutely dreadful I feel dead.

    Hey sorry to hear your not feeling so well. Give the mirtazapine a couple of weeks its a great medication. I also take it along with cymbalta which is an snri like the effexor you take. I too take seroquel at night and the doctor has just added it in in the morning time and its doing the trick to kill the setback ive had the past two weeks. Hang in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    cloud493

    The solution is within yourself with the aid of your family and friends, not in A&E.

    Change your own behaviour gradually by being active and altering your outlook on your situation by degrees. It may not be accomplished instantly but by a process over time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    Lukesmom

    How could you be right when taking a cocktail of drugs, most of those mind altering drugs given out as medication are more destructive to proper brain function that the medical profession would have you believe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Are you the same person that was talking crap about all this a few days ago?

    Things have been disastrous for me since I went off drugs a few weeks ago, maybe it's a coincidence but my mood has gone way down, everything has got more difficult and my girlfriend has left me. I don't know what to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Yes I'l just forget about the 9 stitches in my arm and ask my non existent friends/family for help. Thanks :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    Markhor wrote: »
    I've been reading these threads concerning depression and anxiety etc. and think that medication from doctors or narcotics are not a long term solution.

    Many of the causes of depression and anxiety are the result of having too much time on ones hands and not knowing what to do with it. Sitting down and thinking about this, that and the other and worrying unnecessarily about matters.

    If the mind and body are involved in hard physical activities then one has little time for over thinking which can cause both anxiety and consequent depression.
    Many years ago depression was less of a problem in the population because people were much more active than they are today, sedentary lifestyle seems to be the norm now.

    Its not as simple as this! If it were then we'd all be fine. Dep
    ression takes control of your life and its nearly impossible to take control of the depression


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    I did not say over-coming depression or anxiety is easy, if you read the post, you
    will observe that I stated, it is a process and takes time.

    Occupation of the mind and body together are the solutions.

    Idleness, sitting down and mulling over things creates the anxiety and depression in the first place.

    If depressed people want to improve their mental condition without
    the recourse to drugs, then they must take action and try and get control of their own lives by getting involved in work or activities which take their mind off their
    irrational and unfounded fears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    Cloud493

    I am sorry to hear your arm was injured. If you have no friends or family that is a sad situation
    but is reversible because the world is full of people and if you seek friends you will find them.

    There are probably plenty of people on this forum who would be very happy to be your friend,
    you just have to reach out a little and usually people will respond.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Yeah alright :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Markhor wrote: »
    Lukesmom

    How could you be right when taking a cocktail of drugs, most of those mind altering drugs given out as medication are more destructive to proper brain function that the medical profession would have you believe.

    Markhor,

    Do not post in this manner on this thread again. You are not qualified to assess the severity of posters illness or to advise on prescription medications, and some of the posters here are very vulnerable and very unwell.

    If you post in this manner again, you will be banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    Sam34

    I thought this was a chat forum, why should a person be banned and silenced just because others do not agree with them and do not want to hear the truth.

    You sound just like the government, ban this, ban that, ban the other, a typical reaction from a dictatorship.

    There is an old Roman maxim ''if you tell the truth you will be hated''.

    Why dont you ask the other contributors on here should I be banned if they say yes then I will not post here again.

    I was only offering sensible advice to people, one of which even stated they had no family or friends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Yes you should, that advice is unhelpful, and ludicrous.
    If it was as simple as going out and meeting people, or having a bit of exercise to cure whatever's wrong, I'm sure we'd all do it. But it isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I don't have a problem with anything you've said that I can remember. I am actually in agreement with you to a point. I think it is very easy to be misunderstood and I think you are not one of those 'ah just walk it off' types who are uninformed, quite the opposite. But it is easy for people to read your posts (wrongly) as that.

    EDIT: hadn't read all the posts, didn't see the direct med advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    Cloud493

    I didnt say going out and meeting people and taking exercise alone would cure depression and anxiety, but both would help.

    The causes of depression are numerous, such as abuse, loss of employment, financial worries, loss of status or death of a loved one or close friend.

    A person must break out from the cycle by actually doing little things and building up by degrees to what would be considered a normal existence.

    I know people with severe depression, they wont even wash themselves, wont do anything in their homes which results in making their lives much worse.

    All I am suggesting is that people with depression should make a conscious effort
    to keep occupied and as a result it will help them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Markhor wrote: »
    Sam34

    I thought this was a chat forum, why should a person be banned and silenced just because others do not agree with them and do not want to hear the truth.

    You sound just like the government, ban this, ban that, ban the other, a typical reaction from a dictatorship.

    There is an old Roman maxim ''if you tell the truth you will be hated''.

    Why dont you ask the other contributors on here should I be banned if they say yes then I will not post here again.

    I was only offering sensible advice to people, one of which even stated they had no family or friends.

    A) please read site wide rules re discussing mod actions on thread

    B) there is a site wide rule re giving medical advice, and what you were doing breached that rule

    C) a number of other posters here had reported your posts as they were concerned about the content and it being inappropriate

    D) your 'advice' was far from sensible and was downright irresponsible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Markhor


    Sam34

    You and others say its irresponsible, but many around the world have the same
    views as myself concerning the over use of drugs as medication.

    I know numerous people who are out of their head on drugs given out by doctors and their behaviour is not what would be considered normal.

    Medication has is place in the treatment of mental illness but its over reliance is very prevalent today.

    Surely other methods should be tried to beat depression if at all possible, what is wrong with telling people to take fresh air, exercise and stay occupied throughout
    life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Yes you should be banned. You clearly know very little about depression and anxiety and what causes them. Aimlessness and mulling things over can make my depression worse at times but it does not cause it, a chemical imbalance in the brain does. If I could be rid of this by simply taking my mind off of it I would be now. I've tried to distract myself out of this, think my way out of it, ignore my way out of it but it doesn't work that way. The likelihood of getting through depression without some form of professional treatment is very very very low and saying people just need to 'take control' is very dangerous thing to do. Depression can be treated without anti-depressants (depending on the severity of the condition) but even then there's more too it than just being engaged in physical activity. Exercise helps me but do you know what helps me more? Seeing a counsellor twice a month. And even then I have truly awful periods where I don't want to be alive. So please don't come in here claiming if we had more active lifestyles we'd all be healthy because it's trivialising, upsetting and just plain wrong.

    You say telling the truth and you will be hated well here's some truth for you, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Lightbulb Sun


    Markhor wrote: »
    Cloud493

    I didnt say going out and meeting people and taking exercise alone would cure depression and anxiety, but both would help.

    The causes of depression are numerous, such as abuse, loss of employment, financial worries, loss of status or death of a loved one or close friend.

    A person must break out from the cycle by actually doing little things and building up by degrees to what would be considered a normal existence.

    I know people with severe depression, they wont even wash themselves, wont do anything in their homes which results in making their lives much worse.

    All I am suggesting is that people with depression should make a conscious effort
    to keep occupied and as a result it will help them.

    You're not incorrect with any of this general advice, you overstepped the line with your advice to lukesmom though. That's for her doctor to decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Yes you should be banned. You clearly know very little about depression and anxiety and what causes them. Aimlessness and mulling things over can make my depression worse at times but it does not cause it, a chemical imbalance in the brain does. If I could be rid of this by simply taking my mind off of it I would be now. I've tried to distract myself out of this, think my way out of it, ignore my way out of it but it doesn't work that way. The likelihood of getting through depression without some form of professional treatment is very very very low and saying people just need to 'take control' is very dangerous thing to do. Depression can be treated without anti-depressants (depending on the severity of the condition) but even then there's more too it than just being engaged in physical activity. Exercise helps me but do you know what helps me more? Seeing a counsellor twice a month. And even then I have truly awful periods where I don't want to be alive. So please don't come in here claiming if we had more active lifestyles we'd all be healthy because it's trivialising, upsetting and just plain wrong.

    You say telling the truth and you will be hated well here's some truth for you, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

    The chemical imbalance has not been proven and SSRI's action results are based on the subjective opinions of patients. I'm not saying it isn't true or anything I'm just saying to keep that in mind. You have not been tested for seratonin levels.

    Also, diet and activities effect seratonin levels this is a fact, to say as definitively as you do that someone has a chronic lack of seratonin is misrepresentative. It kind of sneaked into common discourse to just say 'chemical imbalance'. Social validation for example is one our main sources of seratonin, so seratonin levels are changing all the time based on the things you do and what you eat. Naturally if you do activities and eat foods that positively effect seratonin someone with depression is capable of having any seratonin level. There is no evidence to suggest that depression fixes it at a lower limit.

    Apologies if that seems like I am attacking you, I completely am not! I just don't like the disinformation around this because someone reads it and thinks 'oh well if its a chemical imbalance then I have to be on medication my whole life' and this is not proven.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Markhor wrote: »
    I know people with severe depression, they wont even wash themselves, wont do anything in their homes which results in making their lives much worse.

    All I am suggesting is that people with depression should make a conscious effort
    to keep occupied and as a result it will help them.

    The reason they don't wash themselves etc. is because they have severe depression. If you see no point in living it's very hard to see a point in looking after yourself at all. I've struggled to see the point in getting out of bed many times and I know staying in bed makes it worse but if my depression is bad enough that logic alone isn't enough to just get me out of bed. Making an effort to do thing can help but you do not seem to realise not everyone is in a position where they can force themselves to do things. Sometimes the illness is just too severe to be able to fight it without professional help.
    Markhor wrote: »
    Sam34

    You and others say its irresponsible, but many around the world have the same
    views as myself concerning the over use of drugs as medication.

    I know numerous people who are out of their head on drugs given out by doctors and their behaviour is not what would be considered normal.

    Medication has is place in the treatment of mental illness but its over reliance is very prevalent today.

    Surely other methods should be tried to beat depression if at all possible, what is wrong with telling people to take fresh air, exercise and stay occupied throughout
    life.

    The problem is the phrasing of your posts suggest that these methods will cure depression and that medication has no place in its treatment. Maybe you did not mean it but that is what it came across as and that is damaging advice. I do agree that to a degree their is an over reliance on medication in the treatment of mental illness by some GPs but it should not be discounted totally and is still a useful form of treatment and vital for a lot of people. You actively told other posters on here that they're on 'cocktails' of drugs and need to engage in physical activity instead. Firstly you nothing about them and are not a medical professional so you have no way of knowing just how necessary and/or helpful their medications are to them. You also do not know if they are in fact participating in physical activity, getting fresh air, seeing people etc. and how much they actually help them because their effects are different for all. If you want to discuss alternative forms of treatment to medication do so but do it in a respectful manner and understand that some people cannot get through without medication.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    When I started this thread. The idea was that it was a suppost forum. That we could talk to like minded people about things that nobody else can understand unless they've been through it themselves. To let your feelings out without being judged, misunderstood or ridoculed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    The chemical imbalance has not been proven and SSRI's action results are based on the subjective opinions of patients. I'm not saying it isn't true or anything I'm just saying to keep that in mind. You have not been tested for seratonin levels.

    Also, diet and activities effect seratonin levels this is a fact, to say as definitively as you do that someone has a chronic lack of seratonin is misrepresentative. It kind of sneaked into common discourse to just say 'chemical imbalance'. Social validation for example is one our main sources of seratonin, so seratonin levels are changing all the time based on the things you do and what you eat. Naturally if you do activities and eat foods that positively effect seratonin someone with depression is capable of having any seratonin level. There is no evidence to suggest that depression fixes it at a lower limit.

    Apologies if that seems like I am attacking you, I completely am not! I just don't like the disinformation around this because someone reads it and thinks 'oh well if its a chemical imbalance then I have to be on medication my whole life' and this is not proven.

    :)

    I know diet, exercise, social contact etc. can raise seratonin levels and I know they can be helpful in treating it. I also know that it's possible to live without medication for some (I'm one of them). However I do not think it's helpful to suggest medication should not be used and is in fact detrimental. It seems now that was not the poster's intention but it came across that way in the initial posts. Also he seems to lack understanding of how the severe depression can affect people by saying those who wash themselves would improve if they took better care of themselves. It's not that simple at all and insulting to those who have or are experiencing depression that severe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I agree, I was just addressing the chemical imbalance point because I hear it so often.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    It is very much a support thread. And I'm sure there's a fair amount of truth in what Jimmy is saying in fact, one of the reasons why I exercise twice a day(that sand the fact that if I didn't I'd swell up like a balloon) Just the way the other poster presented it was quite unhelpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Markhor wrote: »
    Lukesmom

    How could you be right when taking a cocktail of drugs, most of those mind altering drugs given out as medication are more destructive to proper brain function that the medical profession would have you believe.

    So am I right in thinking by your advice I should stop the medications I take, that my psychiatrist has prescribed for me to take ALONG with seeing a therapist regularly. I also exercise, push myself to get out and about even though it may be the last thing I feel like doing. So what am I doing so wrong???:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Markhor wrote: »
    Sam34

    You and others say its irresponsible, but many around the world have the same
    views as myself concerning the over use of drugs as medication.

    I know numerous people who are out of their head on drugs given out by doctors and their behaviour is not what would be considered normal.

    Medication has is place in the treatment of mental illness but its over reliance is very prevalent today.

    Surely other methods should be tried to beat depression if at all possible, what is wrong with telling people to take fresh air, exercise and stay occupied throughout
    life.

    Advising people whom you do not know and have not assessed in a professional medical capacity not to take medication which has been prescribed by someone who has assessed them in a professional capacity IS irresponsible, whether you acknowledge it or not.

    This is a thread which is there to support those with anxiety or depression. It is not a place for them to have to justify the treatment choices they have made with their treating doctors, or to have those choices criticised or ridiculed.

    If you are unable or unwilling to see that, and to post in the spirit of this thread, then simply don't post here again.

    Final warning. If you post to justify your earlier posts, or your opinion, or in a similar fashion again, or if you breach the charter in any fashion again, you'll be banned. Don't say you weren't warned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    This thread had been of fantastic value for those of us to vent share and support.

    Please do not let that fade so many genuine people here helping each other.

    Lets get back on track.
    Ill start, having positive few days, dispite the fact im I'll with sore throat
    I think the bit of sunshine the last while has helped lift the mood a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Doctor in the morning- can't believe I'm doing this :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    As I said yesterday feel on the verge of a come down. Been studying today and fell more or less alright so think staying busy and focused is the key. Hopefully won't have a post exams crash like last year. Although if it does happen at least this time I'll be prepared. Last year was the first depressive episode I'd had in about three years and the worst I'd had (have had worse since).

    Speaking of which what defines a depressive episode because I've been up and down a million times since then. Am I having lots of little/medium episodes or is it all just one year long episode?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Good luck in the morning Phi3! Try not to worry too much, easier said than done I know but try to think of it as the first step in making things better.


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