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Free Climote heating / hot water control

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  • #102
    BionicRasher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭BionicRasher


    moodrater wrote: »
    Ours is an older model rev12 which we use with a landis and staefa controller. The new models with PID are rev12, rev17, rev24 and are more expensive.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/dsc/i.html?_sop=15&_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_nkw=%28rev12%2C+rev13%2C+rev17%2C+rev24%2C+rev-12%2C+rev-13%2C+rev-17%2C+rev-24%29+siemens&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X%28rev12%2C+rev13%2C+rev17%2C+rev24%2C+rev-12%2C+rev-13%2C+rev-17%2C+rev-24%29+siemens&_odkw=%28rev12%2C+rev13%2C+rev17%2C+rev24%29+siemens&_osacat=0


    https://hit.sbt.siemens.com/HIT/fs_global.aspx?RC=HQEU&lang=en&TITLE=Electronic-room-temperature-controllers-with-time-switch%2c-LCD-and-selection-slider&ACTION=ShowProduct&KEY=BPZ:REV..&MODULE=Catalog

    They'll only switch a couple of amps so you use zone valve contacts etc. for higher currents.

    Ok sorry for Noob questions but these would replace my current room stats (which are these ones) and do what exactly?


  • #103
    moodrater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    tui0hcg wrote: »
    Ok sorry for Noob questions but these would replace my current room stats (which are these ones) and do what exactly?

    If your thermostats is operating zone valves then you can really reducce your heating bills.

    For example if you have bedrooms upstairs theres no point inheating the whole house during the night. You set the thermostat to turn heating off from 8 until 5/6pm while everyone is at school, work, you might have it come on at 6.30pm at 17degrees if putting smallies to bed or 11pm if no smallies. Then you can set another temperature say 20degrees from 6.30-7.30 in morning to help with getting out of bed and geting into the shower.

    Then you might set the downstairs one to 19 degrees to come on from 5pm until 12pm so the house is warm when you get home and set it for 20degrees from 7-8 for breakfast until.

    There is are other modes for example then your home all day or away. If you temporarily want it warmer/colder you just click the plus minus button, it resets next cycle.

    When a normal thermostat turns off the heating but the radiators are still hot so the temperature continues to rise past the set point, the thermostat has built in hysteresis which means that it won't turn on the heating again until its dropped a degree or two below the set temperature.This means that say you set the thermostat to 20C the temperature might vary from 18c to 22c. Which is wasteful. Also at 22c people start taking off jumpers then at 18c they complain about the cold cause they're in their t shirt and boost the heating costing more money.

    With PID control the thermostat learns to turn off the heating before the set temperature is reached so that the residual heat in the radiators finishes raising the temperature. After a while you'll get a very consistent temperature. Which means you don't have people putting on and taking off clothes and boosting the heating.


  • #104
    brightkane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭brightkane


    sorry if this is a nonsence question

    I have a timer unit under my Gas boiler that has boost and 3 digital time zones programmable.

    Is there a unit I can replace this with that gives me remote access through android or apple to turn the heat on and off and to set up the timer function?


  • #105
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    brightkane wrote: »
    sorry if this is a nonsence question

    I have a timer unit under my Gas boiler that has boost and 3 digital time zones programmable.

    Is there a unit I can replace this with that gives me remote access through android or apple to turn the heat on and off and to set up the timer function?

    The Climote does three zones and has this functionality


  • #106
    brightkane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭brightkane


    anthing more reasonable and non subscription?


  • #107
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    brightkane wrote: »
    anthing more reasonable and non subscription?
    maybe wait till the next ideal home show and hop thy are giving them out free again..


  • #108
    cerastes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    tui0hcg wrote: »
    We had 1 timer in by the gas boiler and 1 thermostat out in the hallway
    They put in a new timer with 3 zone controls (2 for heating and 1 for water) and then wired up a new thermostat up in the master bedroom (this entailed lifting some floorboards and running cables etc. New thermostat on the hot water cylinder also (this is located in hotpress beside master bedroom so not much extra work to run the cables in there)
    After that they installed motorized valves 1 for downstairs heating zone (located this near the gas boiler) 1 for upstairs heating zone (located this in the hotpress as that’s where the pipes appear for upstairs)
    We had some TRVs already on some rads so that helps but I hope to upgrade to some ‘smart’ TRVs for all the rads around the house.

    So now we have Zone 1 downstairs which is controlled off the thermostat in the hall. This fires up heating in the lounge, playroom, hallway and also a plinth heater under the kitchen counter

    Zone 2 is upstairs heating (all bedrooms and bathrooms etc) and that’s controlled by the thermostat in the master bedroom

    Water heating is on zone 3 essentially

    So all are controlled by the master timer next to the gas boiler and can have different time settings for each zone so it means for example we have water turn on at 6am to heat water for a shower if someone wants to use the main bathroom and not the electric shower in the master bedroom for a shower. We have the downstairs heating kick in at 7am and the upstairs heating kicks in at 6.30am to make the place nice and cosy for when we roll out of bed. Prior to this we had to turn on the heating all over the house to be able to get hot water to bath the kids in the evening hence it cost a fortune.

    I can PM you the name of the builder and the electrician he had do the work if you want but he is local enough so not sure what area you are in as I don’t imagine he will do too much travelling outside the area he is.


    So no re-piping work? that would seem to be the biggest thing to do.
    Id rezone upstairs/downstairs separately but the work/inconvenience/mess in getting that done puts me off.if I knew were the pipes were under the floor Id have a starting point but i suspect they work their way around between the ceiling/upstairs floor and are tapped off for rads upstairs/downstairs where convenient,


  • #109
    35x
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭35x


    I have been trying to source a Heatmiser TM4 4-zone Programmer but nobody in the area Athlone-Limerick-Galway has them and contacting Irish H/O links you to UK which is somewhat frustrating also. Has anybody installed such a model or know where to get one - other than Amazon or eBay?
    The main difference for me is that it has four On/Off options per day whereas the others have three.
    I wonder also if there is any good knowledge source for all heating control data incl remote and retrofit options as most personnel in shops seem to have limited advice/information.


  • #110
    moodrater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    35x wrote: »
    I have been trying to source a Heatmiser TM4 4-zone Programmer but nobody in the area Athlone-Limerick-Galway has them and contacting Irish H/O links you to UK which is somewhat frustrating also. Has anybody installed such a model or know where to get one - other than Amazon or eBay?
    The main difference for me is that it has four On/Off options per day whereas the others have three.
    I wonder also if there is any good knowledge source for all heating control data incl remote and retrofit options as most personnel in shops seem to have limited advice/information.

    Whats wrong with amazon and ebay do you prefer the thrill of the chase :confused:

    Don't bother with heat merchants in athlone anyway, most apathetic bunch of eejits I ever came across. The last times i was in there once they had no pipe, no olives and couldn't tell me when they might have some. And also told me they never stocked stuff I bought there before. The general air about the place has always been **** off so we can go back to our tea break.

    Have you tried searching google for 'heatmiser tm4 site:.ie'

    http://premierplastics.ie/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=128
    http://www.plumbingproducts.ie/product.php?id_product=2518


  • #111
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Guys

    I got this offer for Free Climote from Airtricity last Friday, little did I realise even thou I signed up for Electric Ireland in November last year it was not processed till December so I have a get out of contract fee of 50 euro

    Just wondering do we think this offer will be available in the new year? or should I just pay the 50 euro and suck it up as getting a Climote system for a 50 euro fee


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