Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Woman denied entry to church

  • 24-05-2015 6:23pm
    #1
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

    I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

    when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

    So after hours have we really come that far ?
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M


«134567…15

Comments

  • #2
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.


  • #3
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Her attire is fairly tame going by big fat gypsy weddings


  • #4
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Zero context to the suggestively edited clip very similar to the iw protest videos.

    And if it's on Facebook it must be true
    360_F_102352090_ie3kLjDIvgrT1sxVDknWCUh8PxgMYzM7.jpg




  • #5
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.

    Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?


  • #6
    Dangerous Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

    But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

    Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

    Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble


  • Advertisement
  • #7
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    In the Philippines they will cover a woman's shoulder's before she goes into the church. There are shawls available at the door to protect modesty.

    The girl was dressed a bit provocatively but I've seen a lot worse. I really hate the wanton discrimination that travellers have to put up with. The majority of them are good people.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.


  • #9
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

    But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

    Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

    Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

    In your rush to judge my post you seem to have missed the part where his behaviour as a human to human goes past you ..


  • #10
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I'd give her one


  • #11
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Any travellers on here?


  • Advertisement
  • #12
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,206 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

    I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

    when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

    So after hours have we really come that far ?
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M


    What's this 'we' business exactly?

    It's impossible to know what's going on there so it's impossible to make any sort of judgment about anything.


  • #13
    Geniass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Compo claim incoming.


  • #14
    Not a NSA agent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    That channel is hilarious. The UTV guy has let himself go
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSiz747xMnU

    The dress seemed fine to me, Ive seen far far worse.


  • #15
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Didn't watch the video but generally speaking, surely it's about time that the right to express oneself in tarty, electric pink taffeta was enshrined as a basic human right?


  • #16
    Silverfish
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.

    She was dressed no different than how people might dress for a wedding, but of course for a wedding they pay the priest.


  • #17
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    The comments on the video show the person who posted it in a lovely light altogether. :rolleyes:


  • #18
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I turned off the video early because I couldn't bare to listen to those accents any longer


  • #19
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.


  • #20
    Geniass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    Depends on your definition of pious.


  • #21
    _Whimsical_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    You're right,by the same token though it's possible they've just had a much more heated argument about something and now that she's pulled the camera out he is afraid to engage her too much. I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

    The dress looks grand if that's what it's genuinely about.


  • Advertisement
  • #22
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Tonight, two of the hardest hitting topics take each other on in one thread, who will emerge victorious? It's the Catholic Church VS The Travellers and it's live right now in After Hours...


  • #23
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    . I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

    Same here with me too, or at least I hope I would be,

    Not quite a fan of this business of pulling out the video phone.

    In this case, I don't get the point to it anyway, as it shows nothing more than a woman getting mouthy and having a go at a priest. The rest is left to our imagination.


  • #24
    Jaxxon Easy Radium
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jaxxon Easy Radium


    they used to not let you in if your shoulders weren't covered sure


  • #25
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    I live in Ennistymon. The Communion was on Saturday. It was just about the dress. The guards were called as well.


  • #26
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    The guards were called as well.

    For what crime, out of interest?


  • #27
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?

    Yes. And like I said, you cannot know why he refused to let her in other than what she said he said.


  • #28
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    whatismyname wrote: »
    For what crime, out of interest?

    I don't know why they were called but two guards from the local station came down to the church.


  • #29
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code

    Going to church isn't a right.


  • #30
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    It was just about the dress.

    And this is based on you seeing / hearing this personally, rather than hearsay locally, yeah?


  • Advertisement
  • #31
    Neyite
    Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    whatismyname wrote: »
    For what crime, out of interest?

    Crimes against Fashion?


  • #32
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Good for her!


  • #33
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    whatismyname wrote: »
    And this is based on you seeing / hearing this personally, rather than hearsay locally, yeah?

    It's a small village and people talk.....One person I know saw the incident.


  • #34
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    It's a small village and people talk.....One person I know saw the incident.

    Cool. So all still just hearsay then, and we're none the wise really either way.


  • #35
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    Terrible. Dont blame her for being in a sulky mood. Amiright?


  • #36
    omerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭omerin


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    lol


    mutton dressed as mutton, nothing to see here, let's move on


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    Reoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    While the dress appears to be "figure-hugging" I think it might look different in real life rather than through a (vertical :rolleyes:) iPhone video.
    That said, at my parish, if people can get away with wearing a Liverpool top, for example, I don't see why she wouldn't be allowed in.

    I think there is more to this than is let on...


  • #38
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Aineoil wrote: »
    I live in Ennistymon. The Communion was on Saturday. It was just about the dress. The guards were called as well.

    Thanks for continuing to tell the rest of the story.


  • #39
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    whatismyname wrote: »
    Same here with me too, or at least I hope I would be,

    Not quite a fan of this business of pulling out the video phone.

    In this case, I don't get the point to it anyway, as it shows nothing more than a woman getting mouthy and having a go at a priest. The rest is left to our imagination.


    Neither am I a fan of the phone pulling out
    But I remember what happened when they have been pointed at people who covered up crime ( I'm thinking police USA )

    Getting back to the post , I think it's the smugness and the line .. "Tell them I laughed at you "
    Is about power and control

    The fact it was a communion day and could have been dealt with better ( a quiet word saying to consider covering up or maybe next time hand out the guidelines)

    Im sure the priest knows his flock well enough and indeed if he is aware of the different groups of children making communion ( I'm guessing he directs or the ethos of the school is Catholic) which could have allowed him to say discreetly to parents what's expected of that was his need

    I was watching pentecost sunday services on the bbc this morning and it struck me as welcoming and inclusive service and had many different types of people in all different type of clothes from all over the planet


  • #40
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    'I have tax and insurance on that car'...lols

    What's that got to do with her predicament?


  • #41
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »
    Thanks for continuing to tell the rest of the story.

    There isn't any more to the story. It was about the dress being too short.


  • Advertisement
  • #42
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    The real crime here is that it was filmed in portrait mode


  • #43
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    There isn't any more to the story. It was about the dress being too short.

    But my mate was there and said differently, as were some of my other mates and that's not what they said :rolleyes:


  • #44
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Reveal all then.


  • #45
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Reveal all then.
    That was the priests main concern about the dress.


  • #46
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    bluewolf wrote: »
    they used to not let you in if your shoulders weren't covered sure

    Still do in lots of mainland europe AFAIK, been ages but its hard enough not to think about sex in mass without some wicked harlots seductive shoulders and delectable knees tempting your mind away from righteous thoughts :-P


  • #47
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    psinno wrote: »
    Going to church isn't a right.

    It is actually.


  • #48
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Lady: I have a divine right to enter this church!

    Priest: You have a divine left too, but youre still not getting in!


  • #49
    mackeire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    Next video is of her and her family calling out the priest and his family.

    Up Joyce!


  • #50
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    . Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    Well except for the 8th commandment


  • #51
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I saw only part of the film and she is saying 'us' women so there might be more if them around.

    Personally I don't give a damn about the inappropriate clothing in church but some Travellers are responsible for serious crimes against good taste. So I think that priest is actually my hero. :D


  • Advertisement
Advertisement