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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭Blueprint


    I feed my guy Orijen because I found it to suit him best. He's just been to the vets for his annual check up and I was told he was in fantastic condition with really good teeth. It costs me less than a fiver a week to feed him and I reckon it's money well spent and I don't regret a single penny of it.

    My late cat was on cheap food all her life and died of kidney failure after a dental aged twelve. She was never in as good shape as she could have been and I can really see the difference good food makes to my present cat and dog family.

    People think nothing of spending that much on a couple of pints and they bring me far more pleasure and joy than that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    i like you dont drink just occasionally, but i do like to give them treats, they still do prefer home cooking, dont we all


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Sigma Force


    When I tell folk the price of the dog food I use they're shocked..which is a bit silly because they don't realise it lasts 6 weeks, feeds 3 dogs and works out per week at around 10 euro which lets face it is pretty good.

    If I were feeding ped chum or the like esp. tins I'd be spending a fortune. Years ago it used to cost me 10 old pounds to feed one dog for a week of ped chum wet and a bit of dry.

    I feed Burns for many reasons, mainly because one of our dogs genuinely has a sensative tum and she tolerates the pork and potatoe best. Since one dog is on it might as well be feeding them all the same thing, plus they love the taste.

    Sometimes it's hard to come up with the money every few weeks but then you have to remind yourself that it's actually covering you for the next 6 weeks.
    I store ours in a large dog food container with lid in their food press and is still fresh to the last bit.

    I've just ordered another bag now from zooplus.co.uk and I've saved myself €7.50 compared to what I was paying locally. So it's costing me 50 quid every 6 odd weeks at the mo. It depends on wether other dogs have been visiting because they love the flavour too and can't help helping themselves lol.

    I also thing that it's pretty obvious the better the quality of ingredients the healthier wether it's for animal or people food. I know plenty of dogs that have lived long lives on cheaper food with table scraps thrown in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Lucyx


    peasant wrote: »
    You do realise that even dry dog food, once opened, can go off?

    Do you have an airtight container for it? If not, you should get one.

    well i always make sure that i get a good best before date on the bag and i have one of those cereal containers and fill that up each week and i keep the 15kg bag closed fairly tightly.

    geez i hope thats enough to keep the grub ok for my dog :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭Blueprint


    Yeah, went I got my guy he was on Pedigree puppy and it cost around 8 Euro for 1.5 kilos. Which would have worked out way more expensive than what I'm feeding now. Plus he was hyper as anything on it... I also find his eyes get very gunky on anything with grain it.

    Goat, I agree about the home cooking, but since none of the humans in this house eat meat and some of them would have a heart attack if I prepared anything containing it in the kitchen, I have to make do with processed.

    They do all get the occasional chicken wing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Lucyx wrote: »
    geez i hope thats enough to keep the grub ok for my dog :confused:

    If you're keeping the bag for several months, the bag itself should really be in an airtight container.

    Left open, the kibble can go rancid after a (long) while, but due to all the preservatives you'll hardly notice it ..your dog's tummy will though.

    We feed from 15 kg bags as well, but as we have three dogs one bag only lasts about a fortnight.

    (found a few kibbles under a shelf once that had been there approx. two months and they were definetly very much off)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    Blueprint wrote: »
    Yeah, went I got my guy he was on Pedigree puppy and it cost around 8 Euro for 1.5 kilos. Which would have worked out way more expensive than what I'm feeding now. Plus he was hyper as anything on it... I also find his eyes get very gunky on anything with grain it.

    Goat, I agree about the home cooking, but since none of the humans in this house eat meat and some of them would have a heart attack if I prepared anything containing it in the kitchen, I have to make do with processed.

    They do all get the occasional chicken wing.



    thought you NEVER give bird bones to dogs cos they're hollow and can splinter?????

    {i never have anyway}


    we give ours Hills Science Plan.

    best of stuff-regulated ingredients.
    and cheaper than Ped Chum,Madra,Winstons{?}

    etc.

    etc

    when i go on a really long walk the odd time i buy a pouch/tin of Ped Chum if i forget to bring some of the Hills......you notice the difference in the dog straight away.....Hyper-Runny,stinky Stools,and then a"Come down" if you like..


    i'm sure Royal Canin,Hills,James Wellbeloved are very similar tbh...

    { a lot are vendor driven/commission based or so the rumours say:rolleyes:}

    used to have a boxer.....on hills......christ he ate a bag a week.....couldn't afford it in the end---switched to Aldi Complete food.....checked with 3 different vets---no problems

    BUT..


    for puppies if you can buy the best thendo it.

    our dog is a member of our family...

    and treated accordingly.


    rant over;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    You should never feed COOKED bones to a dog but RAW is fine, hence feeding a BARF diet as some people do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Lucyx


    thebullkf wrote: »
    thought you NEVER give bird bones to dogs cos they're hollow and can splinter?????

    when i go on a really long walk the odd time i buy a pouch/tin of Ped Chum if i forget to bring some of the Hills......you notice the difference in the dog straight away.....Hyper-Runny,stinky Stools,and then a"Come down" if you like..

    I agree on both scores.

    No chicken wings for dogs. They'd love them, but NO.

    I've done the exact same thing a few times re the pedigree food and you've only to see the 'stools' to see that its just not good food.

    (PS I've never seen a post written that way before, its so spread out:D)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Lucyx wrote: »
    I agree on both scores.

    No chicken wings for dogs. They'd love them, but NO.

    Sorry, but you are wrong, raw bones are fine for dogs,even chicken wings, its the cooked ones you cannot feed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    Lucyx wrote: »
    I agree on both scores.

    No chicken wings for dogs. They'd love them, but NO.

    I've done the exact same thing a few times re the pedigree food and you've only to see the 'stools' to see that its just not good food.

    (PS I've never seen a post written that way before, its so spread out:D)

    thanks lucy ;)



    Took a spin up to Petmania earlier this evening.{santry}
    ....great shop,
    great staff.....


    Petfood is dearer than the vets on Malahide Road:confused::confused::confused::confused:


    its only 4e per 3kg bag but still..

    in fairness i'd still buy in Petmania to show support,
    shops either side of them are closed..so not much passing traffic :(



    they'll quite happily show you their lizards,rabbits Parrots and tons of fish,gerbils hamsters etc etc.

    i don't work there,own it or affilliated with it in any way.

    I just think its the Dogs Nuts.:)


    seriously....if you haven't been.......GO!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    andreac wrote: »
    Sorry, but you are wrong, raw bones are fine for dogs,even chicken wings, its the cooked ones you cannot feed.




    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭lrushe


    Generally what I do is feed a pup on a really good puppy food until around a year old to form good building blocks for the rest of its life as I do believe pups need specialised and correctly balance food, after that I will down scale to a cheaper food and add raw meat and oils to it. I have found an animal food wholesalers where I can buy a 15kg bag of food tailored to working / sporting dogs for between €10-15 to which I will add a spoon of fish oil and depending on what I am cooking that day some raw meat and veg.
    Food - €15
    Oil - €5
    / 6 weeks
    = €3.30 per week to feed 3 dogs, no bad really, my dogs are vet checked yearly and always get a clean bill of health. My 9 year old has always been feed this way and he is as fit as he was at a year old, health coat, sparkling eyes and full of energy. The dog in my sig is fed the same and she is the absolute picture of health.
    At the end of the day its each to their own and if someone wants or needs to feed their dogs an expensive food then thats their choice but I have never felt the need and my dogs have never suffered for this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    "The best" is what is best for them; nothing to do with cost.

    Which is as well for many of us on very low incomes....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭lrushe


    thebullkf wrote: »
    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Once you cook a bone you take out all the moisture in it leading it to splinter when the dog chews it up potentially causing stomach and intestine damage, uncooked bones don't tend to do this as the moisture in them keep them softer , less likely to splinter and more digestable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭LBD


    andreac wrote: »
    Sorry, but you are wrong, raw bones are fine for dogs,even chicken wings, its the cooked ones you cannot feed.

    Sorry.....but I dont think there is a wrong or right on this matter. It's an age old controversial issue and for each owner to decide on. Personally I wouldn't give our dogs any chicken bones, raw or otherwise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Hi all, whats best for a golden puppy 8 weeks old, i dont mind paying a bit extra on him


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Raw chicken wings are very good for dogs, they help to clear out the anal glands.

    Cooked chicken bones no, raw ones, great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Hi all, whats best for a golden puppy 8 weeks old, i dont mind paying a bit extra on him

    There are plenty of good brands of food. What did the breeder have the pup on as you should probably stick with that if its a good one.

    The brands you could feed are Orijen, Royal Canin, James Well Beloved, Arden Grange, Clinivet, RedMills etc. Plenty to choose from. Any good pet shop will stock most of the above.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Hi all, whats best for a golden puppy 8 weeks old, i dont mind paying a bit extra on him


    hills science plan.

    royal canin (they do 'breed specific' food)

    whatever suits your dog ;)

    best of luck:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    lrushe wrote: »
    Generally what I do is feed a pup on a really good puppy food until around a year old to form good building blocks for the rest of its life as I do believe pups need specialised and correctly balance food, after that I will down scale to a cheaper food and add raw meat and oils to it. I have found an animal food wholesalers where I can buy a 15kg bag of food tailored to working / sporting dogs for between €10-15 to which I will add a spoon of fish oil and depending on what I am cooking that day some raw meat and veg.
    Food - €15
    Oil - €5
    / 6 weeks
    = €3.30 per week to feed 3 dogs, no bad really, my dogs are vet checked yearly and always get a clean bill of health. My 9 year old has always been feed this way and he is as fit as he was at a year old, health coat, sparkling eyes and full of energy. The dog in my sig is fed the same and she is the absolute picture of health.
    At the end of the day its each to their own and if someone wants or needs to feed their dogs an expensive food then thats their choice but I have never felt the need and my dogs have never suffered for this.



    +1000:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    We feed a huge mix of things.

    A base diet of royal canin. One day a week of just some liver and rice, kongs stuffed with whatever we have had for our dinner as a snack, we give raw beef bones too. We also give him cheaper own brand stuff if we get stuck. The only thing we rarely feed is tinned food of any brand unless in a kong.

    He gets a sausage if Kieran is having a fry and if he is having something like a chicken breast for dinner, he will cook an extra one and Harley will get this.

    He begs at the chopping board and I'll alway give him a small taste of whatever it is I'm chopping. He loves peppers! He likes to play with cherry tomatoes if you leave them whole. He does the same with malteasers (probably the funniest thing he has ever done involved a malteaser and a cup of tea). I know he shouldn't have choc, but I figure a malteaser once every couple of weeks wont do a large dog much harm.

    All in all we're very relaxed with his diet. We watch his condition and his weight and make changes as we need to. We're often complimented on his condition. He's muscular, very fit and has a shiny coat.

    The only time I notice a problem, is if he's off the royal canin for more than 1 bag of own brand. He develops problems with his anal glands and it's not worth the hassle.

    EDIT: Just wanted to ad, different food were added slowly so we could determine if something didn't agree with him, what it was to avoid it in future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    thanks guys, the breeder has them on ready break, does that sound right, i'll find out exactly when i go to collect him, will it be ok to change him straight away to new food or should i do it gradually


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    niallo27 wrote: »
    thanks guys, the breeder has them on ready break, does that sound right, i'll find out exactly when i go to collect him, will it be ok to change him straight away to new food or should i do it gradually

    Ready brek? at 8 weeks? sorry no, the pups should be on a good quality puppy/weaning food. Ready brek wouldnt have any nutritional value for them at all really so you need to get him on a good puppy food when you get him.

    If hes not on any puppy food then gradually introduce the new food to him over a few days and wean him off the ready brek.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    niallo27 wrote: »
    thanks guys, the breeder has them on ready break, does that sound right, i'll find out exactly when i go to collect him, will it be ok to change him straight away to new food or should i do it gradually
    no


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    andreac wrote: »
    Ready brek? at 8 weeks? sorry no, the pups should be on a good quality puppy/weaning food. Ready brek wouldnt have any nutritional value for them at all really so you need to get him on a good puppy food when you get him.

    If hes not on any puppy food then gradually introduce the new food to him over a few days and wean him off the ready brek.

    I might be wrong about the ready break, they looked very healthy and active and clean when i saw them


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭lrushe


    niallo27 wrote: »
    thanks guys, the breeder has them on ready break, does that sound right,

    Definately not, Ready Break would have no nutriental value to him and is far too high in salt, your cheapest puppy food would be better for him than this. You have been given a list of good puppy foods please try one of these and introduce it slowly to his diet, what you feed him now can determine his entire lifes health.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    lrushe wrote: »
    Definately not, Ready Break would have no nutriental value to him and is far too high in salt, your cheapest puppy food would be better for him than this. You have been given a list of good puppy foods please try one of these and introduce it slowly to his diet, what you feed him now can determine his entire lifes health.

    Dont worry he will get the best of everything off me, i was looking at this
    http://www.zooplus.ie/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/hills_science_plan/puppy_junior/128147

    its got some good reviews


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Im not a fan of Hills myself, my dog and other dogs i know broke out in hot spots (wet excema) from Hills so i will never feed it again but a lot of dogs do well on it.

    Burns is another good food too.


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