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MotoGP 2014 News & Chat

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    #32
    frostie500
    Registered Users Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    gears wrote: »
    Has any one else seen that there will now be 3 classes in Moto GP...... :confused:

    There's the possibility of three classes....it's a big mess created cos Honda are throwing their toys out of the pram at Ducati going Open. For Ducati (or any other bike) to be "Factory 2" they would need to win races, get lots of podiums and from their starting point I cant see it coming anytime soon. Saying that there shouldn't be two classes at all


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    #33
    gears
    Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭gears


    frostie500 wrote: »
    there shouldn't be two classes at all

    Completely agree here, it's a prototype class, or at least was until the world economics went mad and only a few teams could come up with the budgets to run a team and the powers that be got scared of having only a handful of bikes on the grid.

    I think from that perspective it's a low point in Moto GP history, we can only look forward to Suzuki coming back and hopefully Kawasaki or maybe Aprilia and BMW in years to come, what a grid that would be. We can dream I guess... :)


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    #34
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    I respect HRC a lot for the stuff they have done in the past and their racing history, I can also see where they are coming from with this as they are the only manufacturer that has actually built a customer MotoGP bike for the production based series.
    That said until I see a load of Honda signs around the track then they can take their bikes and go until they are prepared to accept that racing is more than just engineering put into practice but also entertainment.
    They have walked before and took them over 10 years to come back but they ultimately returned.
    Let them go if they want to.


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    #35
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    Itv4 are rumoured to be showing highlights on the monday evening after the races.
    That cant be a bad thing.
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    #36
    jpb14
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭jpb14


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    I respect HRC a lot for the stuff they have done in the past and their racing history, I can also see where they are coming from with this as they are the only manufacturer that has actually built a customer MotoGP bike for the production based series.
    That said until I see a load of Honda signs around the track then they can take their bikes and go until they are prepared to accept that racing is more than just engineering put into practice but also entertainment.
    They have walked before and took them over 10 years to come back but they ultimately returned.
    Let them go if they want to.
    So Ducati will racing in the "open class".Does that mean they have failed to produce a proper competitive factory prototype race bike for 2014 then.Seems that way going by testing and times.


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    #37
    jpb14
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    lolie wrote: »
    Itv4 are rumoured to be showing highlights on the monday evening after the races.
    That cant be a bad thing.
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    1 word and 4 letters that will give you all the live MotoGP that you can handle from BT Sports and Arab Bein Sports network via an internet connection hooked up to your TV.All for free.
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    #38
    EB_2013
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    lolie wrote: »
    Itv4 are rumoured to be showing highlights on the monday evening after the races.
    That cant be a bad thing.
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    Can't see them covering much or even any Moto2 and 3 if they only have an hour :( Much more entertaining watching them over the big bikes. Still it's better than nothing.


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    #39
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    jpb14 wrote: »
    So Ducati will racing in the "open class".Does that mean they have failed to produce a proper competitive factory prototype race bike for 2014 then.Seems that way going by testing and times.

    They have been uncompetitive for quite a few seasons now.
    Going Open instead of factory is a smart move as it allows them to develop the bike over the season much more than the factory option.
    More fuel, softer tyres and more engines and modifications permitted over the year and testing would mean a greatly accelerated development time.


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    #40
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Pol Espargaro has broken his collarbone during Sunday evening testing - should be ok for Qatar in 2 weeks time


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    #41
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    BT Sport now running promos for Moto GP - not to impressed so far...


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    #42
    jpb14
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭jpb14


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    They have been uncompetitive for quite a few seasons now.
    Going Open instead of factory is a smart move as it allows them to develop the bike over the season much more than the factory option.
    More fuel, softer tyres and more engines and modifications permitted over the year and testing would mean a greatly accelerated development time.
    Cals gonna be in for a very long and tough season then.To me the Ducati move to open class is an admission of failure on their part and being unable to give Cal and Dovi a competitive factory machine for 2104.But I think Cal is really only interested in one thing now,lots of money.He said so himself last season when interviewed about the wizeness of moving to Ducati.He openly said on camera to the BBC that hes getting older,he wont race bikes forever and he now has to think of his families financial future.
    It would be nice to see Cal on the podium again this year,but I think its going to be a very long hard battle to get near the podium for him this year.


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    #43
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    ahhh....MotoGP....i remember it well.........:o


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    #44
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    The way the series has moved with limited testing and no in-season engine development has meant if you fall behind for any reason then its almost impossible to regain any kind of parity.
    Ducati's problems in this class have been obvious since Stoner left, and seeing as they couldn't or wouldn't accept that the bike was the problem not the rider/s then they have fallen behind the Honda and Yamaha machines.
    Now with Luigi in charge they seem to be willing for the first time in years to actually be serious about modifying the bike, not sending riders like Melandri to a Psychiatrist!
    Really though having three separate divisions in the same class is ridiculous.


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    #45
    jpb14
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭jpb14


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    The way the series has moved with limited testing and no in-season engine development has meant if you fall behind for any reason then its almost impossible to regain any kind of parity.
    Ducati's problems in this class have been obvious since Stoner left, and seeing as they couldn't or wouldn't accept that the bike was the problem not the rider/s then they have fallen behind the Honda and Yamaha machines.
    Now with Luigi in charge they seem to be willing for the first time in years to actually be serious about modifying the bike, not sending riders like Melandri to a Psychiatrist!
    Really though having three separate divisions in the same class is ridiculous.
    Or telling Rossi that he will ride with an all carbon frame and swingarm and thats that.Maybe if Ducati had have listened a few years ago then they would be better off for it now.
    Any news on JB now that Rossi has fired him as his crew chief.
    Is he going to remain on in MotoGP or is he retiring completely now?
    Rossi owes that man so much for his success and 9 titles.


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    #46
    RezwoK
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭RezwoK


    jpb14 wrote: »
    1 word and 4 letters that will give you all the live MotoGP that you can handle from BT Sports and Arab Bein Sports network via an internet connection hooked up to your TV.All for free.
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    Really? Is it stream or do you download first? Free? That's interesting.


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    #47
    RezwoK
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭RezwoK


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    The way the series has moved with limited testing and no in-season engine development has meant if you fall behind for any reason then its almost impossible to regain any kind of parity.
    Ducati's problems in this class have been obvious since Stoner left, and seeing as they couldn't or wouldn't accept that the bike was the problem not the rider/s then they have fallen behind the Honda and Yamaha machines.
    Now with Luigi in charge they seem to be willing for the first time in years to actually be serious about modifying the bike, not sending riders like Melandri to a Psychiatrist!
    Really though having three separate divisions in the same class is ridiculous.


    Good point, yet I still feel Ducati will struggle again this year. Bad moove by Cal Crutchlow


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    #48
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    jpb14 wrote: »
    Any news on JB now that Rossi has fired him as his crew chief.
    Is he going to remain on in MotoGP or is he retiring completely now?
    Rossi owes that man so much for his success and 9 titles.
    JB. is kicking back for the year, still on a 1 year contract with Yamaha until the end of the season but having to do sweet FA!
    Rossi, Doohan and Gardner all owe JB a debt of gratitude for their success.
    Yamaha as well for getting them up to pace after the Honda years.
    He said in an interview that he is just enjoying life, and if Yamaha need him to step in at any point during the season he would discuss it and see if it was mutually beneficial.
    Good luck to him I say, he has earned his retirement.


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    #49
    jpb14
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 322 ✭✭jpb14


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    JB. is kicking back for the year, still on a 1 year contract with Yamaha until the end of the season but having to do sweet FA!
    Rossi, Doohan and Gardner all owe JB a debt of gratitude for their success.
    Yamaha as well for getting them up to pace after the Honda years.
    He said in an interview that he is just enjoying life, and if Yamaha need him to step in at any point during the season he would discuss it and see if it was mutually beneficial.
    Good luck to him I say, he has earned his retirement.
    A true mechanical and engineering genius,a once in a lifteime guy indeed.I would love to see him jelp out Rossi again,or more so that Rossi HAS to ask for JBs help again.:)
    I dont think Rossi was very nice in how he parted comapny with JB,not fair to do it like that.:(


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    #50
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    jpb14 wrote: »
    A true mechanical and engineering genius,a once in a lifteime guy indeed.I would love to see him jelp out Rossi again,or more so that Rossi HAS to ask for JBs help again.:)
    I dont think Rossi was very nice in how he parted comapny with JB,not fair to do it like that.:(
    JB said that Rossi is still in love with the racing, not the winning.
    JB also said that winning was the reason he went to the paddock not to race but to win.


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    #51
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    jpb14 wrote: »
    .:)
    I dont think Rossi was very nice in how he parted comapny with JB,not fair to do it like that.:(


    Rossi is numero uno in Rossiworld.....no one else matters, he'd shoot his own father if it meant him winning again...


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    #52
    Stevo105
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    jpb14 wrote: »
    1 word and 4 letters that will give you all the live MotoGP that you can handle from BT Sports and Arab Bein Sports network via an internet connection hooked up to your TV.All for free.
    Android
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    You sir are a legend. i have been using XBMC for years as a Media server and I never know about the Navi-x plugin to stream BT Sports :)


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    #53
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    EB_2013 wrote: »
    Can't see them covering much or even any Moto2 and 3 if they only have an hour :( Much more entertaining watching them over the big bikes. Still it's better than nothing.

    I'd say the'll show some moto 2 and 3.
    There's as much action in a few laps of moto 3 than the whole moto gp race.


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    #54
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2014/March/mar1114-motogp-itv/

    A statement about ITV motogp coverage.

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    #55
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    RezwoK wrote: »
    Good point, yet I still feel Ducati will struggle again this year. Bad moove by Cal Crutchlow

    Apparently its still to be finalised which category Ducati will race in after Hondas hissy fit.

    1 week to go !


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    #56
    Stevo105
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    RezwoK wrote: »
    Good point, yet I still feel Ducati will struggle again this year. Bad moove by Cal Crutchlow

    Crutchlow is an old man in motogp terms. he needs to think about the money and in that respect. Ducati is a good move for him.


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    #57
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    MotoGP rules updated. It could make for very interesting times ahead.

    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Grand+Prix+Commission+decision+on+updated+regulations
    MotoGP wrote:
    1. The Championship ECU and software will be mandatory for all entries with effect from 2016.

    All current and prospective participants in the MotoGP class will collaborate to assist with the design and development of the Championship ECU software.

    During the development of the software a closed user web site will be set up to enable participants to monitor software development and to input their suggested modifications.

    2. With immediate effect, a Manufacturer with entries under the factory option who has not achieved a win in dry conditions in the previous year, or new Manufacturer entering the Championship, is entitled to use 12 engines per rider per season (no design freezing), 24 litres of fuel and the same tyres allocation and testing opportunities as the Open category. This concession is valid until the start of the 2016 season.

    3. The above concessions will be reduced under the following circumstances:

    Should any rider, or combination of riders nominated by the same Manufacturer, participating under the conditions of described in clause 2 above, achieve a race win, two second places or three podium places in dry conditions during the 2014 season then for that Manufacturer the fuel tank capacity will be reduced to 22 litres. Furthermore, should the same Manufacturer achieve three race wins in the 2014 season the manufacturer would also lose the right to use the soft tyres available to Open category entries.

    In each case the reduced concessions will apply to the remaining events of the 2014 season and the whole of the 2015 season.



    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Grand+Prix+Commission+decision+on+updated+regulations

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    #58
    valerossi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭valerossi


    So who's signed up to BT? I'm undecided a quick google provided some links to streaming and it is a great excuse to head to a pub on a sleepy Sunday morning if I don't get.


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    #59
    XsApollo
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    I've signed up to BT.
    Nice programs on yesterday, good snippets from all the riders about races over the last decade and about the rivalries.

    On race weekends Motogp will be running all day, unlike previous channels where we got the race and nothing else.

    Looking good so far.


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    #60
    Stevo105
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    valerossi wrote: »
    So who's signed up to BT? I'm undecided a quick google provided some links to streaming and it is a great excuse to head to a pub on a sleepy Sunday morning if I don't get.

    I signed up to motogp video pass for 99 euro for the year. i can watch all of last years racing plus all the other videos on the motogp website. Since i'm not into any other sport its the best option for me


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    #61
    h3000
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    valerossi wrote: »
    So who's signed up to BT? I'm undecided a quick google provided some links to streaming and it is a great excuse to head to a pub on a sleepy Sunday morning if I don't get.

    I signed up alright, I went with the 12 month sub for €199. I follow the WRC too so with both sports there it made me justify it. Plus my internet connection can be really slow at times so the video pass could have led to violence :o

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