'48' Mobile operator - Prepaid offer - 3000mins & 5000 texts €10per month

Sponge Bob · 28-01-2012 6:58pm

http://www.48months.ie/index/pricing

Ouch

1890 numbers 50c per minute*
076 (VOIP) 50c per minute*
Call forwarding 50c per minute*
0818 universal access number 50c per minute*

Oracle · 28-01-2012 8:23pm

There was a mobile MVNO in the UK similar to this called Blyk. The gimmick was Blyk offered free calls and texts, in return for accepting advertising messages being sent to your phone.

Blyk was also age restricted, under 24 only, they confirmed your age using your passport number, which they requested at sign-up. Of course, this then spawned an Ebay market in "fake" passport numbers that people of any age could buy to sign up for Blyk.

m4r10 · 29-01-2012 2:19am

My 48 cent on this one, it's too good to be true, even if I just turned 18 a ....while ago :rolleyes:

arrianalexander · 29-01-2012 4:24pm

only thing holding me back is the data plans..its fine at moment... 2 euro for 500mb for a week... don't see the point of daily rates for people with smart phones...

ShooterSF · 29-01-2012 4:25pm

Strange to market at a young crowd but have poor data pricing. I would have thought a good deal on data could be up there with the original meteor to meteor free text in popularity with that age group.

JTMan · 29-01-2012 4:38pm

arrianalexander wrote: »

only thing holding me back is the data plans..its fine at moment... 2 euro for 500mb for a week... don't see the point of daily rates for people with smart phones...

Worse still, it is going to be hourly rates rather than daily rates.

This package is really only for those that don't use data on the go, which is an increasingly smaller percentage of the population.

The package is also not for those that call internationally regularly, those that call landlines regularly, those that like webtexts, those who use customer care and those that like subsidised operator phones.

Having said that, if it is for you, then it is a great deal.

arrianalexander · 29-01-2012 5:24pm

i would of thought that 18- 22 wold be using internet all the time... facebook etc..

TheZohanS · 29-01-2012 5:40pm

Seems to be a pathetic attempt to try and win back some of the customers they lost to Meteor/Three.

o2 must be haemorrhaging market share.

Beware the small print!

JTMan · 29-01-2012 5:49pm

arrianalexander wrote: »

i would of thought that 18- 22 wold be using internet all the time... facebook etc..

Thats exactly the point.

Telefonica hook young people in with a cheap headline call and text rate and then screw you on data costs. The exact demographic that is most likely to use data.

Avoid like the plague if you have an always on smartphone.

BlueCam · 30-01-2012 3:59am

This appears to be a reaction to "Free Mobile" which was launched in France two weeks ago to much fanfare, offering unlimited voice, texts and data for €20 a month and another restricted plan for just €2 a month.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/248848/french_telecom_regulator_steps_into_dispute_over_free_mobiles_coverage.html

The impact of Free Mobile's launch could be felt across Europe, even though the company has no operations outside France. With many countries auctioning off spectrum to operate 4G mobile services over LTE (Long Term Evolution), new market entrants will be keeping a close eye on Free Mobile's low-cost business model. It may also affect mobile pricing across Europe by providing a new benchmark for regulators, particularly the European Commission in its mission to lower the cost of roaming: One element keeping roaming fees high is the cost of network access in the country visited.

Tea_Bag · 30-01-2012 4:55am

subbing to thread.

Oracle · 30-01-2012 12:41pm

Just got this reply from an admin on O2.ie regarding 48 Months.ie:

.... 48 is independent from O2 but it is part of the Telefónica Digital family.

irishgrover · 30-01-2012 12:59pm

The business model seems to have two core and diverging assumptions

a.) Most young people don't user the internet on their phone
b.) Most your people who do use the internet are too dumb to figure out they will be screwed on data charges.

Not sure I would bet a lot of money on either being true....

paulcdub85 · 31-01-2012 12:49am

i for one, and there are many like me, never use a phone for anything but calls and texts so this is a great deal...sims in the post!

cyberspider · 31-01-2012 12:14pm

Oracle wrote: »

There was a mobile MVNO in the UK similar to this called Blyk. The gimmick was Blyk offered free calls and texts, in return for accepting advertising messages being sent to your phone.

Blyk was also age restricted, under 24 only, they confirmed your age using your passport number, which they requested at sign-up. Of course, this then spawned an Ebay market in "fake" passport numbers that people of any age could buy to sign up for Blyk.

In the UK Blyk was an ad funded MVNO that gave youth customers a certain value of credit per month for use on calls, SMS and internet. In return they sent the customers SMS and MMS based ads that were targeted based on customer preferences, age and gender. At the sign up customers had to answer a load of questions about their interests.

Blyk ended up closing because customers only used their free credit for outbound calls and text. Once they were finished they swapped back to their main SIM card.

This is quiet a different proposition as they are looking to get customers to port their number over thus using 48months as their main line. In addition they are give a very large amount of credit in return for a low monthly charge. payment.

Oracle wrote: »

Just got this reply from an admin on O2.ie regarding 48 Months.ie:

Quote:
.... 48 is independent from O2 but it is part of the Telefónica Digital family.

It will be very interesting to to see if they start to target these 48month customers with adverts, considering it is being managed by "Telefónica Digital" . I am assuming that Telefonica digital is the same as O2 Media in the UK (http://www.o2media.co.uk/). This 18-22 year old audience is notoriously difficult to advertise to so a mobile based advertising media service would certainly be something O2 are looking at here.

cyberspider · 31-01-2012 12:47pm

14.2 We may also use your information and personal details to contact you with marketing messages by SMS, email, phone or post. We will do this for so long as you continue to use the 48 Services and for a reasonable period of time after you cease to use the 48 Services in order to inform you about products and services and promotions and special offers which we feel may be of interest to you. These marketing messages will provide you with information about our own products and services and information about products and services provided by our selected partners and third parties. If you do not wish to receive such information please contact us in the ways we allow via www.48months.ie to amend your preference.

This is the part of their T&C's that say they may use the customers details for advertising

Oracle · 31-01-2012 1:59pm

cyberspider wrote: »

.... This is quiet a different proposition as they are looking to get customers to port their number over thus using 48months as their main line. In addition they are give a very large amount of credit in return for a low monthly charge. payment ....

That brings up a question; it's not clear to me whether 48 Months give you a SIM with a usable number, or you have to port an existing number.

About Blyk, I was saying it was similar to Blyk, only in the sense of being age restricted or age marketed. I wouldn't imagine 48 Months are going to send their users advert texts. After all the calls and texts may be cheap, but they're not free. Also I think if they were planning anything like that, they'd have to make it very clear from the outset. Even if they did you could opt out, as you've quoted from the terms and conditions above.

RangeR · 31-01-2012 2:10pm

Oracle wrote: »

That brings up a question; it's not clear to me whether 48 Months give you a SIM with a usable number, or you have to port an existing number.

48 uses the 089 number prefix so you can get a proper number from them. At this stage the website is exceptionally unclear as to how you port or just get a new number.

bittihuduga · 31-01-2012 2:19pm

how would they check the age of the customer who signs up?

Kenny Logins · 31-01-2012 2:33pm

Tea_Bag wrote: »

subbing to thread.

Thread tools, top of page. ^^

Tea_Bag · 31-01-2012 2:54pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Thread tools, top of page. ^^

on mobile running a browser without Java script...

doxy · 31-01-2012 2:56pm

Has anyone over the age of 22 successfully availed of this offer?

Oracle · 31-01-2012 3:55pm

doxy wrote: »

Has anyone over the age of 22 successfully availed of this offer?

Not yet, we're all waiting for the SIMs to arrive!

RangeR · 31-01-2012 3:59pm

They are being dispatched today.

Oracle · 31-01-2012 4:16pm

bittihuduga wrote: »

how would they check the age of the customer who signs up?

Good question, that's what we'd all like to know ......

My theory is this network is just a "yoof" network in name only, in practice it's just a way for O2 to offer super cheap calls and texts, at a bargain basement subscription level, while keeping their premium O2 brand intact. That's why they're operating it at arms length, keeping even the Telefonica logo off the website.

In other words, my granny could be on 48, and they don't know she's 88 ... or care .... as long as she pays her subscription.

machalla · 31-01-2012 4:27pm

Heres a link from the Sunday Business Post about this

O2 starts mobile network for ages 18-22

O2 has launched a mobile network aimed specifically at those aged between 18 and 33.

Called 48, it's being marketed as a service for the "reckless" years.

Terms are as follows: a monthly €10 membership fee covering unlimited calls and texts to any mobile network, at any time (with some conditions). Just 20 minutes of landline calls are covered.

"We're way cheaper because we don't have an army of customer care folk waiting to take your call," the service's site declares. "But you're big enough to know that you can get us here on our website, read our FAQs, join the 48 community or ask an agent."

Bummer1234 · 31-01-2012 5:08pm

machalla wrote: »

Heres a link from the Sunday Business Post about this

O2 starts mobile network for ages 18-22

I assume 33 age and error on the page??

machalla · 31-01-2012 5:16pm

Bummer1234 wrote: »

I assume 33 age and error on the page??

It looked like it.

Hmm, this might be a nice offer for a lot of older folks who have no need of data but might be ringing each others mobiles for a chat.

Get all your parents signed up. For those "reckless" types who are still young at heart.

doxy · 31-01-2012 5:25pm

When I try to order a SIM it asks me for my phone number, are they asking me for a number that I want to port over, or do they give you a new number?

deiseindublin · 31-01-2012 8:44pm

Does anybody know if it will have webtext? Much handier when sending group messages.

JTMan · 31-01-2012 8:52pm

deiseindublin wrote: »

Does anybody know if it will have webtext? Much handier when sending group messages.

It appears that they do not offer webtexts based on the fact that it is mentioned nowhere on their website.

bittihuduga wrote: »

how would they check the age of the customer who signs up?

They can't. It is a gimmick to try and ensure that only 18-22 year olds sign up but anyone can.

Jesus Wept · 01-02-2012 2:43am

If landlines are for losers, why offer any minutes to landlines? Losers.
Landlines are for losers.

doxy wrote: »

When I try to order a SIM it asks me for my phone number, are they asking me for a number that I want to port over, or do they give you a new number?

You get an 089 number (how amazing is that? Like being in the 90's again!).
If you want, you can get them to move your old number to the new 48 sim.

I'm wondering how much it costs to txt non Irish mobiles.

Jesus Wept · 01-02-2012 3:33am

Hang tough? Crew?
I feel like a proper youth.

Oracle · 01-02-2012 3:34am

The-Rigger wrote: »

I'm wondering how much it costs to txt non Irish mobiles.

25c http://www.48months.ie/index/pricing

They've just posted a seriously stylish and expensive ad on YouTube, wow ..... :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_xcA_0VypQ

Oracle · 01-02-2012 3:38am

The-Rigger wrote: »

Hang tough? Crew?
I feel like a proper youth.

Great. Just for info, when did you order the SIM?

Jesus Wept · 01-02-2012 4:01am

25c to txt a UK mobile is pretty steep.

Just on that, for the 10e membership per month, are you left with 10e phone credit or would you have to buy additional credit in order to send a txt abroad or if you so wanted - call a landline (once your 20 minutes had elapsed)?

Oracle wrote: »

25c http://www.48months.ie/index/pricing

They've just posted a seriously stylish and expensive ad on YouTube, wow ..... :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_xcA_0VypQ

Wonder what that ad was originally for.

Oracle wrote: »

Great. Just for info, when did you order the SIM?

Tonight.

Jesus Wept · 01-02-2012 4:27am

Weirding me out now. Bit ominous.

/conquers.

stacexD · 01-02-2012 5:00am

So is this just a scam or is it real?
Too lazy to read the whole thread in the middle of the night

Oracle · 01-02-2012 6:33am

The-Rigger wrote: »

Weirding me out now. Bit ominous.

/conquers.

Yeah that's the email I got as well. Although O2 take ages to send free SIMs so I wouldn't worry.

Your question about making international texts, or extra calls to landlines, I assume you need additional credit for those calls. That's why the top-up page is on the web site. Looks to me that the €10 per month is a membership fee only. That allows you make lots of calls and texts to mobiles, but it's not available as call credit for other calls.

Kevin! · 01-02-2012 6:02pm

If people are after unlimited data, and not so much unlimited calling three are still far superior imo -

top up by 20e and get free unlimited internet for the month, unlimited texts to any network, unlimited three to three calls and free weekend calls to any network

not to mention the 20e credit you still have left

JTMan · 01-02-2012 7:11pm

The-Rigger wrote: »

Just on that, for the 10e membership per month, are you left with 10e phone credit or would you have to buy additional credit in order to send a txt abroad or if you so wanted - call a landline (once your 20 minutes had elapsed)?

You need to buy additional credit.

padocon · 01-02-2012 9:04pm

Grindylow wrote: »

Very suspicious tbh..

My thoughts exactly, they are referring to you paying for a "membership", unusual. I could be completely wrong but I wouldn't change over just yet.

PressTheButton · 02-02-2012 10:59am

The-Rigger wrote: »

... Wonder what that ad was originally for. ...

Video was apparently made by this Irish advertising company specifically for '48'.

drunkmonkey · 02-02-2012 8:44pm

The-Rigger wrote: »

Wonder what that ad was originally for.

Play the fist 40 seconds of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo in the background while watching the ad form the start. Works well

Walter White · 02-02-2012 9:49pm

10 euro a month for unlimited calls and texts to any network.... That is a great deal, better than any deal that has ever been offered in Ireland before and people on here just keep knocking it !!!

Why ???

Do they not like a real Bargain.....

Oracle · 02-02-2012 9:54pm

I ain't knocking it I think it's great. If I get the SIM, can get on the network and actually get the deal, it'll be fantastic .......

doxy · 02-02-2012 10:22pm

So, if I already have an o2 account where they have my real date of birth on file, won't telefonica and 48months be able to access that data too?

Oracle · 02-02-2012 10:25pm

Yeah but sssshhh .... don't tell them they mightn't have thought of that!

JTMan · 02-02-2012 10:42pm

doxy wrote: »

So, if I already have an o2 account where they have my real date of birth on file, won't telefonica and 48months be able to access that data too?

They wont be able to. They have you date of birth for data protection purposes not for age validation purposes.

doxy · 02-02-2012 10:48pm

Sweet

, I ordered one anyway, so fingers crossed it all goes smooth.

'48' Mobile operator - Prepaid offer - 3000mins & 5000 texts €10per month

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