Guide to Sea Fishing(shore)

Dano954 · 29-08-2008 2:33pm

Im in North Cork and work in Limerick, was out in Kilkee again with a friend, it was his first day fishing and he thoroughly enjoyed it and we got plenty mackerel some of whom ended up on the plate last night. Now that theres plenty mackerel in the freezer (both bait and food) Im definitely going on the search for Bass and flatfish if possible.

Popanddrop · 29-08-2008 9:58pm

Good luck hope you do well.

Cormdogg · 02-09-2008 10:09am

Here's a question for yis. Is there anyway to "not" catch dogfish? I usually go to a spot in Dalkey in the evening.If I get a a mackerel I like to bait up a 2 hook rig and see what I can get. On the mackerel Ive got pollock,rockling,a tiny dab and once a pink starfish that must have been stuck to the rock with araldite it nearly snapped my rod! But again and agin I keep getting doggies, so whats a man to do?

coolwings · 02-09-2008 2:51pm

Cormdogg wrote: »

Here's a question for yis. Is there anyway to "not" catch dogfish?......

Aaah, if only there were .......

Popanddrop · 02-09-2008 7:05pm

Dogfish are unfortunetly the pest of the irish waters, there is no real way to avoid but maybe a switch in baits will deter them some bit like lugworm ore peeler crab.

gafarrell · 02-09-2008 7:13pm

Best post i'v seen on boards in a lomg time

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Any hints on putting together your own rigs for bass etc..
Is it better to buy the beads/swivils/crimps etc in a tackle shop or do you know of any good on-line resources. Or am i just been a cheap skate and prob better off buying them

Popanddrop · 02-09-2008 8:15pm

personally there is nothing wrong with premade rigs, I prefer to make my own because I feel its all apart of fishing, plus it allos you to experiment with your oen versions of certain rigs. Thanks for the comment.:D

keen · 03-09-2008 3:51pm

Thanks for all the info, you've really done a decent job.

Popanddrop · 03-09-2008 4:22pm

thanks keen,:D

growler · 04-09-2008 2:20pm

any good suggestions on how best to target wrasse (from teh shire) rig / bait etc and how to stop them nicking everything off your hooks ?

keen · 04-09-2008 2:48pm

growler wrote: »

any good suggestions on how best to target wrasse (from teh shire) rig / bait etc and how to stop them nicking everything off your hooks ?

I've seen them being caught around rocky areas using the float method with nice big rag worm, hook the rag so it's body is all the way up the hook nearly at the line and experiment with different depths by adjusting you stop knot.

Popanddrop · 04-09-2008 6:27pm

the best and easiest way to catch them, try using hard back crabs also.

growler · 04-09-2008 7:53pm

i usually float fish about 5-10 feet down, have caught them on lug (rare enough to rag on the west coast) but they're bloody fast and i seem to hook up 1 in ten times, used a treble for a while at had a better success rate but smaller fish.

what hook size is best ish ?
any artificial baits that will stay on and get the bites ?

i really enjoy fishing for them as its such close up action, but its incredibly frustrating missing bite and bite

Popanddrop · 06-09-2008 2:29pm

anything from a 1/0 all the ways up to even a 3/0. Great to hear about your love of fishing for wrasse, its whats fishing is all about.

Degsy · 07-09-2008 10:40pm

I prefer to use quite for bass,size 1 or thereabouts as the mouths are quite small.A very good,and easily available bait is a limpet.Knock it off with a rock and pull the thng out of the shell.Wrass go mad for them and they have the advantage of staying on the hook very well when the wrasse are nibbling.

Popanddrop · 08-09-2008 6:23pm

yes I have noticed that also.

Huff · 09-09-2008 9:15pm

Popanddrop thanks a million for all the info, if I have any more questions regarding any fish I know I will be asking you for your taughts.

Keep up the work. Cheers:D:D

Popanddrop · 09-09-2008 9:35pm

:Dcheers thanks

Popanddrop · 12-09-2008 6:50pm

Organsing a trip out to do some rock mark fishing next weekend with a few people( a class) if anyone one else is interesting it is a class with 15 euro per person.

okmqaz42 · 14-09-2008 6:34pm

Popanddrop, your info is fantastic. Thank you very much. I have started to do a bit of shore fishing and I am finding your posts very helpful.

Popanddrop · 14-09-2008 9:08pm

no problem glad to be of help. if anyone has any questions please just ask.

mintt · 16-09-2008 11:23pm

hi popanddrop.
nice one i do a lot of beach fishing , your doing a grand job here keep it up . might get more people out fishing.

Doc Farrell · 17-09-2008 12:08am

to be honest i was hoping for a few more personal tips that might seem a bit more unorthodox, or nuts, for example,

do u ever add a bit of bread to the hook if ur getting no bites,
what do u do to ward off bad luck,
do u let a middler go free to catch a bigger one.

all the info here is 100% valuable but i'm looking for the highly dodgy personal stuff with no scientific basis....!

give me 10 dodgy tips or i will decry this thread to the night wind!

stevecrow74 · 17-09-2008 3:06am

Doc Farrell wrote: »

to be honest i was hoping for a few more personal tips that might seem a bit more unorthodox, or nuts, for example,

do u ever add a bit of bread to the hook if ur getting no bites,
what do u do to ward off bad luck,
do u let a middler go free to catch a bigger one.

all the info here is 100% valuable but i'm looking for the highly dodgy personal stuff with no scientific basis....!

give me 10 dodgy tips or i will decry this thread to the night wind!

hehe... there are things i have done that whould make you go WTF!!!

if i'm not getting bites i drop hook size to either 4 or 6 and use a small piece of bait (usually mackerel or sandel) the size of a little fingernail.. usually pick up a small flattie/goby/5bearded rockling or something of the likes

i know a few lads that have certain shirts and caps they wear for good luck..

have often released a good fish for a bigger one.. rather annoying especially knowing i'll probably not catch anything for the rest of the night..

a few strange tips...
Lugworm that is near to the point of being mush can sometimes out fish fresh lug

small pouting cut in half is a killer bait for conger

bacon rind can be used to catch fish

holding a fish out at arms length makes it look bigger in a photo

mix pilchard oil and vaseline and put a bit on your lures to give them a better scent

small jif lemom containers make great floats

Cd wallets make cheap rig cases

the tops off bic biro's make good sliding booms

tent waterproofing spray can also be used on fishing jackets

stevenmu · 17-09-2008 10:17am

stevecrow74 wrote: »

mix pilchard oil and vaseline and put a bit on your lures to give them a better scent

I've heard of people spraying a little WD40 as well :eek:

Popanddrop · 17-09-2008 3:22pm

mintt wrote: »

hi popanddrop.
nice one i do a lot of beach fishing , your doing a grand job here keep it up . might get more people out fishing.

Thanks. Always nice to hear that people like my work.:D

Once again this is my last call for this weekend if anybody would like to do a bit of learning and join me on a session out to the balck head, I am taking a few other people out already so its definet. Cost is 15 euro per person for the day. I will be showing how to make rigs, proper bait presentation, casting, etc.

stevecrow74 · 17-09-2008 3:58pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I've heard of people spraying a little WD40 as well :eek:

spraying WD40 on fish baits helps breaks down the oils faster, which release the scent quicker..
putting WD40 on anything else wont work (to my knowledge any ways);)

Popanddrop · 17-09-2008 8:06pm

good for reels also:D

Doc Farrell · 17-09-2008 10:59pm

what did u do with the turtle u caught Steve?

and what happened when u saw the weaver on the end of the line?

howmany of the different species do u eat or keep?

tx for the replies.

d.

edit: popanddrop how many of the species u catch do u eat?

Popanddrop · 17-09-2008 11:17pm

I release about 90% of my catch, normally a nice bass would do the trick but a nice fresh pollock/cod is also very nice.

stevecrow74 · 18-09-2008 12:47am

Doc Farrell wrote: »

what did u do with the turtle u caught Steve?

and what happened when u saw the weaver on the end of the line?

howmany of the different species do u eat or keep?

tx for the replies.

d.

edit: popanddrop how many of the species u catch do u eat?

turtle was released safely

when i saw weaver i though.. oh goodie another species for the year..

i'll keep the odd fish, but release possibly 95% of what i catch
i'll give anything a go as long as its big enough for the plate (and not protected) love pollock wrasse and rockling

Popanddrop · 18-09-2008 9:30am

never tried wrasse or rockling, any good?

stevecrow74 · 19-09-2008 12:06am

Popanddrop wrote: »

never tried wrasse or rockling, any good?

plenty of meat on wrasse, grilled with a squeeze of lemon

rockling baked in tinfoil (same as you'ld do for ling)

Doc Farrell · 19-09-2008 12:17am

i hooked a Giant Scallop recently, 6-700lbs. Went under the boat, smart fish, very smart fish.

really enjoyed this thread lads, hope to catch u later on sea angling ireland.

d.

Popanddrop · 19-09-2008 7:55am

maybe, soon.

Cormdogg · 19-09-2008 11:52am

Ha ha Pop, Your little tricks are the best post so far! I used WD40 for the first time last Sat and again last night and it worked a treat,Greatly improves shop bought dull mackerel. I never think to use a smaller piece of bait when Im drawing a blank for a spirit lifting little dab.

An 11 year old showed me how to catch wrasse on the pier in Dun Laoighre last Sat and he gave me an empty coke bottle to use as a float. Always more to learn!

I have a lucky hat but what you want to watch out for is unlucky people!

Popanddrop · 19-09-2008 6:06pm

thanks for that

Popanddrop · 23-09-2008 10:47pm

well took someone (jargha) for his fishing lesson the other day, the weather was against with bright blue skies, crystal clear water but we still pulled up a few fish, plenty was both thought and learned.

benoit08 · 24-09-2008 1:29pm

Just reading through thread here, great stuff.Very new to sea angling but enjoy it.Popand drop, I know you do the occasional class for people but presume in Cork,anybody know anything similar around Dublin...(preferably Northsideish)

Thanks..

Popanddrop · 24-09-2008 3:55pm

sorry dont know of any in Dublin, why dont you start a thread asking for someone to teach you?

Popanddrop · 11-10-2008 4:13pm

Any body have any fishing news?

justoneman · 06-04-2009 3:17am

Wow thats some thread. A+++++

SuperSean11 · 09-04-2009 4:49pm

Popanddrop banned:(

justoneman · 15-06-2009 2:58am

Since this is the summer and more people are fishing I think it should be at the top of the page so people can learn from it.

jArgHA · 15-06-2009 12:28pm

Anyone know why popanddrop got banned? This is still a great thread.

Ockham · 09-07-2009 9:54pm

Hello everyone. Just looking for a bit of advice on shock leader.Im attaching a 50lb shock leader to my 15lb main line. Ive used a few different knots but the same story.....CRACK.... and off goes my gear :mad:. Dont know am i using too much shock leader or not enough? Is it possibly the difference in the diameter of the shock leader and main line causing lots of rubbing off the eyes at the knot?? should i just spool up some 30lb line and be done with this shock leader business never want to be a champion caster or anything.Any advice appreciated guys.

jArgHA · 10-07-2009 12:47pm

Ockham wrote: »

Hello everyone. Just looking for a bit of advice on shock leader.Im attaching a 50lb shock leader to my 15lb main line. Ive used a few different knots but the same story.....CRACK.... and off goes my gear :mad:. Dont know am i using too much shock leader or not enough? Is it possibly the difference in the diameter of the shock leader and main line causing lots of rubbing off the eyes at the knot?? should i just spool up some 30lb line and be done with this shock leader business never want to be a champion caster or anything.Any advice appreciated guys.

Try this knot for attaching the 50lb shock leader to your 15lb main line:
http://www.hatterasoutfitters.com/images/shocker_knot.gif

Also a drop of super glue over the knot gives it extra strength (not really necessary but will definitely make it more secure).

Ockham · 10-07-2009 1:50pm

Cheers ill give that a go.Think a 50lb braid might be worth it?Gonna get a load of nuts of a suitable weight from woodies and go practice this evening.

KAZ0077 · 10-07-2009 2:13pm

Wouldnt use braid for a shockleader as it has no stretch so puts a direct strain on the knot and line in a cast.
Use 50lb mono or 60lb and go to this site, http://neilmackellow.sea-angler.org/ it'll show you a good safe shockleader knot.
Your knot shouldnt be breaking every cast.
I would have 7 turns of leader on my reel then enough to go up the length of the rod and back halfway down again.

Golden rule is 10lb of shockleader for every oz of lead..also, it could be your casting style..maybe its very erratic and snatchy and not smooth...this wouldnt be very knot friendly either.

Hope this helps?

Ockham · 10-07-2009 2:53pm

yeah my casting is anything but stylish.ill try the knot and practice.thanks

Guide to Sea Fishing(shore)

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