Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Dempsey · 24-04-2012 4:52pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

He's not our owner anymore, luckily.

And the fact he doesn't show up and treats them with contempt should have no bearing on the club itself.

I also never said that Rangers should not be punished by the maximum punishments, but that doesn't mean I have to like it or agree with it.

He is still the owner of Rangers, he just cant sit on the board of directors.

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 4:55pm

Madam wrote: »

As English is Jelle's second language I think you may want to explain the term 'greeting'(I usually spell it as 'greetin':))

I know well enough what greetin' is.

:pac:

Madam · 24-04-2012 4:58pm

I've been thinking(I know it's a dangerous thing for a woman to do;))but I'm beginning to think Craig Whyte is being used as the scapegoat(a compliant one at that) here! After all one man can't run a business into the ground he must have had help from somewhere or someone within the club - no?

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 4:58pm

I'm sure Murray was aware, but just didn't give a ****.

As long as he managed to get out before it all came crashing down.

bobbysands81 · 24-04-2012 5:02pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

He's not our owner anymore, luckily.

I posted earlier that I thought that maybe you didn't quite have a hold on what's happening at RFC, after the above comment i'm convinced of it.

Who do you think owns Rangers if it's not Whyte?

Madam · 24-04-2012 5:09pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Who do you think owns Rangers if it's not Whyte?

But if he bought the club under dubious circumstances,
would that be true?

bobbysands81 · 24-04-2012 5:11pm

Madam wrote: »

I've been thinking(I know it's a dangerous thing for a woman to do;))but I'm beginning to think Craig Whyte is being used as the scapegoat(a compliant one at that) here! After all one man can't run a business into the ground he must have had help from somewhere or someone within the club - no?

I am absolutely convinced that Whyte's plan all along was what's happening now. He is an opportunist that saw a way to make a killing for the princely sum of £1.

He has intentionally financially run Rangers into the ground and I'll offer an example as proof.

He renegotiated the top earners contracts spending money doing so on increased wages and fees totalling millions to agents at a time when he wasn't paying those players' National Insurance and Income Tax! Why would he do that???

He wanted Rangers to run out of money and enter administration (knowing that the Big Tax Case and other creditors were lurking), he could then sit it out throwing accusations at the previous owners, hell even firing the likes of Bain knowing that Bain would take him to court thus speeding up process.

Whyte is exactly where he wants to be and where he intended to be. All he has to do is sit back, wait for a final deal to be struck, and then sell his shares to whomever the owners will be for many millions.

Dempsey · 24-04-2012 5:20pm

I've just being reading the rules which Rangers have been found guilty of. Jelle, Rangers didnt receive the maximum punishment possible.

Madam · 24-04-2012 5:22pm

Hmm, I'm not so sure! Yes he may have wanted to make a quick buck but even he couldn't have envisaged this outcome.

Sorry that was in reply to BobbyS.

RoryMac · 24-04-2012 5:25pm

Madam wrote: »

Hmm, I'm not so sure! Yes he may have wanted to make a quick buck but even he couldn't have envisaged this outcome.

I think by withholding tax payments while the club was firmly in the HMRC's sights he knew quite well what the outcome would be.

He's sitting pretty at the minute and shows no sign of handing over his control of the club without being paid handsomely for it!

Madam · 24-04-2012 5:28pm

Ah well if he's brought the great Glasgow Rangers to their knees all on his own - perhaps he's to be admired as the greatest con man of all time;)

Dempsey · 24-04-2012 5:40pm

He's turned £1 into potentially millions and all he had to do was be inept at his job. He has crazy business skillz

Old Gill · 24-04-2012 5:54pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Really ?
Care to give any examples ?

buying players with money you never had and had no intention of paying (Wallace), withholding money from clubs over gate receipts (dundee utd, dunfermiline) knowing that the above would cause severe problems to these clubs. Id have said this was cheating other clubs, wouldnt you? There seems little sympathy on the rangers forums for the smaller clubs you stole from (and in fact a supposed boycott was arranged for dundee utd for having the audacity to ask for their money)

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 6:47pm

Old Gill wrote: »

buying players with money you never had and had no intention of paying (Wallace), withholding money from clubs over gate receipts (dundee utd, dunfermiline) knowing that the above would cause severe problems to these clubs. Id have said this was cheating other clubs, wouldnt you? There seems little sympathy on the rangers forums for the smaller clubs you stole from (and in fact a supposed boycott was arranged for dundee utd for having the audacity to ask for their money)

Another one who doesn't get it.

I was talking about fans who are according to some still don't admit they've done anything wrong.

Also, we have paid all the money owed so far for Wallace.
The last payment (due this summer) could potentially be missed yes, but that doesn't mean anything at this point.

The rest is bollocks, all fans were happy that the money from the RFFF was used to pay Dunfermline.
Dundee Utd can go **** themselves, they got a double gate receipt when they refused to let fans use their previous tickets for a game that was abandoned, of course we're not gonna like them now.
They have also never let a chance go by to put the boot in.

weldoninhio · 24-04-2012 7:04pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Old Gill wrote: »

buying players with money you never had and had no intention of paying (Wallace), withholding money from clubs over gate receipts (dundee utd, dunfermiline) knowing that the above would cause severe problems to these clubs. Id have said this was cheating other clubs, wouldnt you? There seems little sympathy on the rangers forums for the smaller clubs you stole from (and in fact a supposed boycott was arranged for dundee utd for having the audacity to ask for their money)

Another one who doesn't get it.

I was talking about fans who are according to some still don't admit they've done anything wrong.

Also, we have paid all the money owed so far for Wallace.
The last payment (due this summer) could potentially be missed yes, but that doesn't mean anything at this point.

The rest is bollocks, all fans were happy that the money from the RFFF was used to pay Dunfermline.
Dundee Utd can go **** themselves, they got a double gate receipt when they refused to let fans use their previous tickets for a game that was abandoned, of course we're not gonna like them now.
They have also never let a chance go by to put the boot in.

Aluko, McKay, Bocanegra, Bartley, Goian, Bedoya, Afolab, Wallace, Ortiz and Celik. Players Rangers brought in whilst not paying PAYE & NI. This is why rangers should be punished. Doesn't matter what affect they had/had not on the team. These were players brought in to give you an advantage while not being able to afford them.

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 7:12pm

Nicely copied from Kerrydale Street, who is Afolab btw ?

Or did you mean Afolabi, who would have been able to come on a free transfer but never actually signed ?

weldoninhio · 24-04-2012 7:35pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Nicely copied from Kerrydale Street, who is Afolab btw ?

Or did you mean Afolabi, who would have been able to come on a free transfer but never actually signed ?

So your only retort is that I made one mistake and misspelt one of the names?? What about the others?? Pure head buried in the sand!!!

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 7:41pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

So your only retort is that I made one mistake and misspelt one of the names?? What about the others?? Pure head buried in the sand!!!

Aye, keep telling yourself that.

http://www.thelawyer.com/full-extent-of-rangers-fc-claims-against-collyer-bristow-laid-bare/1012303.article

Hopefully that means that criminal charges can be brought to them.
I guess that can also put to rest the accusations that D&P are working together with Whyte.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-04-2012 8:07pm

When will it be decided what division Rangers will be playing next season?

Eirebear · 24-04-2012 8:10pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

When will it be decided what division Rangers will be playing next season?

Whenever Regan get's word from his masters at Peter Lawwel's proffesional Game Board.

I've only just realised he was on that - yet for months i;ve read Bobby and Co. getting annoyed about the fact an EXRangers Board Member was involved.
Now if anyone has a conflict of interests....

Dempsey · 24-04-2012 8:17pm

Its Eric Riley thats on the SPL board, what committee is Lawwell on?

Jelle1880 · 24-04-2012 8:23pm

Regan's twitter account follows many people, yet only one single supporters club from a football team.

TheSmallestCSC.

Odd. :pac:

Eirebear · 24-04-2012 8:46pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Its Eric Riley thats on the SPL board, what committee is Lawwell on?

the same one as Ogilvie!
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_football.cfm?page=2560

Eirebear · 24-04-2012 8:47pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Regan's twitter account follows many people, yet only one single supporters club from a football team.

TheSmallestCSC.

Odd. :pac:

I wouldnt know - He's blocked my account for asking why he walked out of the meeting with Rangers fans a few weeks ago.

blahfckingblah · 24-04-2012 8:48pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Regan's twitter account follows many people, yet only one single supporters club from a football team.

TheSmallestCSC.

Odd. :pac:

so all celtic fans or suspected celtic fans are rangers haters, sounds to me like conspiracy RSC

Eirebear · 24-04-2012 8:52pm

blahfckingblah wrote: »

so all celtic fans or suspected celtic fans are rangers haters, sounds to me like conspiracy RSC

Nah - He's just a spineless **** who is stuck between a Lawell and a hard place.

Dempsey · 24-04-2012 9:16pm

Eirebear wrote: »

the same one as Ogilvie!
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_football.cfm?page=2560

You'd have to have the chief executive of the best run club in scottish football involved in corporate strategy and top-line decision-making of the professional game. Silly not to...

Eirebear · 24-04-2012 9:20pm

Dempsey wrote: »

You'd have to have the chief executive of the best run club in scottish football involved in corporate strategy and top-line decision-making of the professional game. Silly not to...

Not biting!