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For anyone interested in gaining a Maths qualification

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  • #102
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    theglobe wrote: »
    Hey guys, is there any update on the open university maths modules that you need to complete to be recognised by the teaching council? Any prerequisites that I should be aware of? I would have had very little maths in my commerce degree.

    It would all hinge on what the TC says.

    If you are in a school and teaching maths then this free course is still open for registration (2yrs part time). http://www.ul.ie/eps/sites/default/files/Professional%20Diploma%20in%20Mathematics%20for%20Teaching%20_%20Brochure%202016%20FINAL.pdf


  • #103
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    It would all hinge on what the TC says.

    If you are in a school and teaching maths then this free course is still open for registration (2yrs part time). http://www.ul.ie/eps/sites/default/files/Professional%20Diploma%20in%20Mathematics%20for%20Teaching%20_%20Brochure%202016%20FINAL.pdf


    Thanks. So they decide on a case by case basis? I am not teaching maths at present but was looking to do the Hibernia and study maths separately while doing it.


  • #104
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    theglobe wrote: »
    Thanks. So they decide on a case by case basis? I am not teaching maths at present but was looking to do the Hibernia and study maths separately while doing it.

    Yes you have to be teaching (and a qualified teacher of any subject + principal's signature). The DIT also do a part time maths degree but that'd be a long road before getting to ordinary level degree (3 I think!). 3 years can fly though.


  • #105
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Yes you have to be teaching (and a qualified teacher of any subject + principal's signature). The DIT also do a part time maths degree but that'd be a long road before getting to ordinary level degree (3 I think!). 3 years can fly though.

    Hopefully very fast :D If the TC told me that I could do it through the Open University that's probably the route I'd take. But I'm not sure if I'll be allowed with just my commerce degree with hardly no maths.:(


  • #106
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    theglobe wrote: »
    Hopefully very fast :D If the TC told me that I could do it through the Open University that's probably the route I'd take. But I'm not sure if I'll be allowed with just my commerce degree with hardly no maths.:(

    You'd just have to contact the Tc and they would assess your degree and see what maths you have done, then they'd recommend certain modules from OU.
    If you don't have much maths they might just recommend you do a degree, consider the costs of a degree from OU also, it can be the most expensive option.


  • #107
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭doc_17


    If you're near Dublin do the DIT degree. 3 years will fly


  • #108
    Corkgirl18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    I'm a science teacher and want to add maths to my degree. I've just 2 5 credit modules done in my degree.
    I was pretty set on doing the 2 year part time free course in UL but am just thinking about the Open University course now.
    Obviously the open university course costs but it seems shorter. Are there any other major differences between the 2?


  • #109
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    doc_17 wrote: »
    If you're near Dublin do the DIT degree. 3 years will fly

    Unfortunately I'm in Cork.


  • #110
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    You'd just have to contact the Tc and they would assess your degree and see what maths you have done, then they'd recommend certain modules from OU.
    If you don't have much maths they might just recommend you do a degree, consider the costs of a degree from OU also, it can be the most expensive option.

    Do they recommend or force you? My plan to do the Hibernia alongside the Open University seems a lot more viable.


  • #111
    Corkgirl18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    theglobe wrote: »
    Unfortunately I'm in Cork.

    Could you do the course from UL? The Cork branch is based in CIT.


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  • #112
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Could you do the course from UL? The Cork branch is based in CIT.


    The problem is by the time I'm qualified there's a good chance it would be gone, according to a friend of mine. Plus I'd be delaying everything that bit more.


  • #113
    phish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭phish


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    I'm a science teacher and want to add maths to my degree. I've just 2 5 credit modules done in my degree.
    I was pretty set on doing the 2 year part time free course in UL but am just thinking about the Open University course now.
    Obviously the open university course costs but it seems shorter. Are there any other major differences between the 2?
    I'm just starting the OU option to add maths in September. From the research I've done in to it and from talking to the people that run the module it will take roughly 3 years to complete the modules required as I'm working full time as well. Of course this could be completed quicker if you aren't working full time as well but its just another thing to think about.


  • #114
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    I'm a science teacher and want to add maths to my degree. I've just 2 5 credit modules done in my degree.
    I was pretty set on doing the 2 year part time free course in UL but am just thinking about the Open University course now.
    Obviously the open university course costs but it seems shorter. Are there any other major differences between the 2?

    Have you checked it with the Tc also?


  • #115
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Do the Tc look for maths pedagogical modules now?


  • #116
    *Angel*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭*Angel*


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Do the Tc look for maths pedagogical modules now?

    They do! On their subject declaration form they state that 5 credits of the 120 credits teacher education (PME) should have a module related to the teaching of Maths.


  • #117
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    *Angel* wrote: »
    They do! On their subject declaration form they state that 5 credits of the 120 credits teacher education (PME) should have a module related to the teaching of Maths.

    I thought that change was coming in Jan 2017? I only ask because I got Applied Maths added to my TC registration during the week and wasn't asked for pedagogy module. Granted the requirement for pedagogy modules probably applies for anyone currently looking at add on subjects if they are not going to be finished by December 2016.


  • #118
    Crazyteacher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Crazyteacher


    So are colleges going to run specific subject pedagogies part time for those adding on subjects?


  • #119
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Crazyteacher wrote: »
    So are colleges going to run specific subject pedagogies part time for those adding on subjects?

    Only if there is a demand I'd imagine. There are so many teachers looking for different module combinations to get an add on subject, all from different colleges. Maths anecdotally seems to be the most popular add on, but I can't imagine any college would have a large number of part time students studying on a modular basis that would warrant providing subject specific pedagogy modules.

    I was studying part time for an add on 2 years ago and was keen to complete before 2017 to avoid this specific problem.


  • #120
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Does anyone have a link to the 2017 thing that's being mentioned?

    Edit: Sorry I think this is it :Subject-Requirments-after-January-2017.pdf


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  • #121
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    http://www.teachingcouncil.ie/en/FAQs/Post-primary-Qualification-Assessment/

    Which curricular subjects require you to complete a specific methodology/elective in the subject as part of your initial teacher education programme?

    While the Teaching Council would expect that student teachers would complete a teaching methodology course in their teaching subject as part of their teacher education qualification, this may not be possible in some cases. There are however a number of subjects where it is compulsory. They are: Art, CSPE, Music, Religious Education, Physical Education, Engineering (Metalwork - Junior Cert), Technology, Technical Drawing, Home Economics and Construction Studies.

    For teachers registering after 1 January 2017 a teaching methodology will also be compulsory for the following subjects: Mathematics, Applied Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Physics & Chemistry and Agricultural Science.




    Seemingly the change only applies to Science and Maths. I stand corrected, however the vast majority of subjects are listed above. Languages require a 3 month stint living in the country where that language is spoken, so without subject methodology modules it looks like English, Irish, History and Geography will be some of the few subjects that will not have this add on in 2017.


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