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X-Men: Days of Future Past (Bryan Singer)

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    #92
    McLoughlin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    If the Sentinels are around in 73 (after First Class) then how come we don't see them in the main trilogy ? Another plot hole or what ... I hate time travel stories


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    #93
    Professey Chin
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Finally!!! We get to see some actual Sentinel action. If memory serves correctly, weren't they hinted at in a previous movie? Perhaps the first X-Men, but I might have that wrong ...

    They were in the Danger Room in the Last Stand


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    #94
    paddy kerins
    Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    If the Sentinels are around in 73 (after First Class) then how come we don't see them in the main trilogy ? Another plot hole or what ... I hate time travel stories

    I'm gonna guess that this is an alternate universe, considering Trask was played by Bill Duke in the Last Stand, who's just about about as far from Peter Dinklage as you can get


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    #95
    [Deleted User]
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    McLoughlin wrote: »
    If the Sentinels are around in 73 (after First Class) then how come we don't see them in the main trilogy ? Another plot hole or what ... I hate time travel stories

    As Chinpool pointed out.. they were in the Danger Room in the Last Stand (I had a feeling it wasn't the first movie), so perhaps they were around, but just not introduced at that point. Or maybe they were no longer there at that point?


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    #96
    Handsome Bob
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    McLoughlin wrote: »
    If the Sentinels are around in 73 (after First Class) then how come we don't see them in the main trilogy ? Another plot hole or what ... I hate time travel stories

    There's been a load of stuff released, including a timeline of the evolvement of the sentinels, culminating in the release of the 'mark x' model in 2020.

    I'm guessing the 70s team defeat the original models after they turn on both mutants and humans. Production is then stopped and the sentinels are consigned to history until something happens that results in Trask Industries producing the x model.

    The x model decimates the mutant race in 2020 which results in Bishop jumping back in time.


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    #97
    Kylo Ren
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    #98
    pixelburp
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    For those wanting a better look at the Sentinels, Bryan Singer tweeted a shot of him posing beside one. It's nice to see they actually built a full-scale (animatronic?) version of the robots, so clearly it won't all be CGI:

    https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/362993850438000640/
    Deleted User wrote: »
    As Chinpool pointed out.. they were in the Danger Room in the Last Stand (I had a feeling it wasn't the first movie), so perhaps they were around, but just not introduced at that point. Or maybe they were no longer there at that point?

    Their inclusion in that Danger Room scene was nothing more than a sop to the comic fans in the middle of a cheap, illogical bait & switch sequence. I wouldn't count that as an appearance tbh; I remember watching that scene in the cinema and quickly realising what an awful film this was going to be. Besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the rumours are that 'Future Past' will
    erase Last Stand from the canon using some timey-wimey?


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    #99
    paddy kerins
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    For those wanting a better look at the Sentinels, Bryan Singer tweeted a shot of him posing beside one. It's nice to see they actually built a full-scale (animatronic?) version of the robots, so clearly it won't all be CGI:

    https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/362993850438000640/



    Their inclusion in that Danger Room scene was nothing more than a sop to the comic fans in the middle of a cheap, illogical bait & switch sequence. I wouldn't count that as an appearance tbh; I remember watching that scene in the cinema and quickly realising what an awful film this was going to be. Besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the rumours are that 'Future Past' will
    erase Last Stand from the canon using some timey-wimey?

    Since Peter Dinklage is playing Bolivar Trask, who was played by Bill Duke in 3, I'd say it's more than likely 3 will be erased. Possibly even the whole trilogy


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    #100
    brianregan09
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    Can they even do that now after Wolverine 2 because its pretty clear he did kill Jean


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    #101
    Sad Professor
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the rumours are that 'Future Past' will
    erase Last Stand from the canon using some timey-wimey?
    Please please let this be true!


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    #102
    Professey Chin
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Please please let this be true!

    Apparently its more a case of righting some wrongs then erasing completely such as giving cyclops a proper shot & showing a properly powerful rogue.


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    #103
    [Deleted User]
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Please please let this be true!

    Problem with doing that, is that it would make a lot of The Wolverine pointless.


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    #104
    Sad Professor
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Problem with doing that, is that it would make a lot of The Wolverine pointless.

    Which would be... good, no?


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    #105
    [Deleted User]
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Which would be... good, no?

    Much as I felt the Wolverine was a disappointment I did like the manner in which they portrayed Wolverine and his inner demons. There's a lot to be said for ignoring The Last Stand though I do like that so many of the characters were killed off. Hopefully Singer will do something interesting with this and concentrate once more on story over spectacle.


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    #106
    jill_valentine
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    I like the Sentinal designs, but the heads do cut a little close to the nu-Cylons, IMHO.


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    #107
    constitutionus
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    ahem.

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/178577-bryan-singer-reveals-full-size-sentinel-on-the-set-of-x-men-days-of-future-past

    squeeee !

    theres a viral vid on the site too showing some of it.


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    #108
    senordingdong
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    Really sounds like he's cramming ALOT into it.
    Hope the film doesn't suffer from it.


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    #109
    Mitch Connor
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Problem with doing that, is that it would make a lot of The Wolverine pointless.

    It would surely depend on the way the time travel stuff works on the characters involved. if they still remember the original time line, then everything that did happen would still have happened for them - so Logan would still have experienced all he did including
    killing Jean
    and the issues he had over it.


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    #110
    Bacchus
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    senordingdong wrote: »
    Really sounds like he's cramming ALOT into it.
    Hope the film doesn't suffer from it.

    If there's one director you'd trust to handle this movie with its huge cast and complex plot it's Singer.


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    #111
    Nervous Wreck
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    Bacchus wrote: »
    If there's one director you'd trust to handle this movie with its huge cast and complex plot it's Singer.

    There's plenty of directors I'd trust much more with it tbh. He's got a few decent films under his belt but I don't really get where all the love comes from tbh.


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    #112
    Bacchus
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    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    There's plenty of directors I'd trust much more with it tbh. He's got a few decent films under his belt but I don't really get where all the love comes from tbh.

    X-Men, X-2 & First Class were all a cut above any of the other X-men movies and their spin offs. He just gets the balance right when it comes to the X-Men. Safe hands imo.


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    #113
    Deano7788
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    Bacchus wrote: »
    X-Men, X-2 & First Class were all a cut above any of the other X-men movies and their spin offs. He just gets the balance right when it comes to the X-Men. Safe hands imo.

    But he didn't direct First Class, Matthew Vaughn did.


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    #114
    Otacon
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    Bacchus wrote: »
    X-Men, X-2 & First Class were all a cut above any of the other X-men movies and their spin offs. He just gets the balance right when it comes to the X-Men. Safe hands imo.

    Since then, he has made Superman Returns and Jack the Giant Slayer...


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    #115
    Loughc
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    Otacon wrote: »
    Since then, he has made Superman Returns and Jack the Giant Slayer...

    Yea but to be fair what director hasn't made a bad movie? His work on X-Men and X2 shows he can handle the X-Men universe.


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    #116
    Deano7788
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    I'm not entirely convinced that they have shown that though. As much as I love them, X2 especially, they've always come across to me slightly as Wolverine feat. the X-Men. I don't think they ever really showed him handling a large cast particularly well. There's a touch of that this time as well, with the reveal he'll be the one going back in time.

    I'm just naturally worried whenever I see these massive casts as well, and this one is really big. There was a period of time where there a new member or 2 was revealed every week. It can just make the movie feel too full.

    Nothing would please me more if he could pull if off though.


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    #117
    Otacon
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    Loughc wrote: »
    Yea but to be fair what director hasn't made a bad movie?

    Matthew Vaughn?

    X-Men: First Class
    Kick-Ass
    Stardust
    Layer Cake


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    #118
    Loughc
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    Otacon wrote: »
    Matthew Vaughn?

    X-Men: First Class
    Kick-Ass
    Stardust
    Layer Cake


    You win, I've nothing to say back to that. Well played sir, well played. :o


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    #119
    Bacchus
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    Deano7788 wrote: »
    But he didn't direct First Class, Matthew Vaughn did.

    Oops yeah, but he was producer on it so it's only other X-Men movie he's had an input to. My point being that the X-Men movies he's been involved with so far have been far superior to the rest. With him at the helm, I think this could be a great X-Men movie.

    Regarding Superman Returns. I quite enjoyed that but it was far too wrapped up in trying to be like the Donner films.


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    #120
    Corholio
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    Otacon wrote: »
    Matthew Vaughn?

    X-Men: First Class
    Kick-Ass
    Stardust
    Layer Cake

    Kick Ass was pretty meh to be honest. Never got the hype about it. It seemed a very young girl cursing seemed to be its ultimate aim.


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    #121
    Nervous Wreck
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    Watched the first X-Men last night for the first time in ages and it's awful. X2 saved the bacon big style. Singer has in no way shown that he can handle the big cast. X-Men was terrible, save some cool moments. X2 is defo an enjoyable flick but can not be forgiven for dispatching Cyclops and Prof X so early on and not utilising two of the main characters of the universe properly. I hope DOFP is great, trust me, but Singer is definitely not the *best* man for the job.


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