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***2015 LC Chemistry - Higher Level - June 16th***

  • 16-06-2015 5:26pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 12


    Did anyone else find that tough? Think I did better in the mocks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    That was pretty difficult


  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭ImRebecca


    135083 wrote: »
    Did anyone else find that tough? Think I did better in the mocks!

    I thought it was the worst chemistry test I ever did! Kissed my A1 goodbye


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    I loved ittttttttti


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 12hello345


    That was so hard worst exam ever was hoping for A definitely only managed a C , ffs I hate the sec


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭dazzadazza


    I thought the questions were asked in an awkward way. For example instead of asking for the trends across and down a group they asked for bigger and smaller atoms.

    I still felt like I gave everything a decent shot. I'm thinking B1 A2.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭dazzadazza


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    I loved ittttttttti

    Do you reckon you got that A1?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    Could anyone do the formation of ethanol question?I couldn't get the right equation for combustion of ethanol


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Noire


    Pretty hard paper, all the experiment questions were pretty tricky imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭dazzadazza


    Could anyone do the formation of ethanol question?I couldn't get the right equation for combustion of ethanol

    I think it was C2H5OH + 3O2 ---> 2CO2 + 3H2O


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    dazzadazza wrote: »
    Do you reckon you got that A1?

    I hope re , u ??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 135083


    Hopefully still got the A1, but didn't like the paper at all. Was less of a "throw down everything you know off by heart paper" and moreso one where you had to really work them out IMO. What did you guys do for the equilibrium question, multiply Kc by 10 then solve the quadratic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭dazzadazza


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    I hope re , u ??

    Not too sure about an A1 because there were a few parts where I relied on waffle. I'll settle for an A2 B1 though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    135083 wrote: »
    Hopefully still got the A1, but didn't like the paper at all. Was less of a "throw down everything you know off by heart paper" and moreso one where you had to really work them out IMO. What did you guys do for the equilibrium question, multiply Kc by 10 then solve the quadratic?

    Yeah, what did you get for 'x'? I think I got like 15.32 or something


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    That was a harder paper than I thought it would be. Was going for an A1 but i would be happy with a A2/B1 on that paper.

    Anyone else get 20 for the x value in question 11? Cant remember exactky but was a nice whole number


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    What talk get for the value oh heat of formation ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    What talk get for the value oh heat of formation ??

    Around -270 kJ/mol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    It could have been worse was my first thought. Roughly added up my marks at the end of the exam and I reckon I got a B1/B2. I'm just happy to be finished :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    dazzadazza wrote: »
    I think it was C2H5OH + 3O2 ---> 2CO2 + 3H2O

    I had that! Just couldn't get the question to work out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Alex Meier


    Yeah, what did you get for 'x'? I think I got like 15.32 or something

    X = 20

    Number of gaseous moles = 5 mol/L or 50 mol/10L


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Ima_mokster


    Worst paper ive seen in terms of wording, was hoping for a definite A1, I'll take an A2 now tbh.. anyone know the initial appearance of phenylmethanol before KMNO4^-1? Paper was much like what I heard about the biology in that it wasn't as accessible as previously imo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    Alex Meier wrote: »
    X = 20

    Number of gaseous moles = 5 mol/L or 50 mol/10L

    Think thats right. I got x to be 2 because I divided by 10, and got 5 overall :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Deranged96


    Hard but not cruel.

    I know of two calculations I messed up already :(

    But sure be grand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭expiiplus1


    Why would you multiply by 10 in the equilibrium problem? I'm really nervous about that part of the paper.
    My reasoning was that the only thing that could affect Kc was temperature and that remained the same...


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 Bah_Humbug


    kindof crying, never not gotton an A1 in chemistry and then BAM


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Iamtheduchess


    No A1, more like a C1. So disappointed!
    Thankfully had gone over catalysts etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    Can someone do the solution to that equillibrium question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Doctorhopeful


    The_N4sir wrote: »
    That was a harder paper than I thought it would be. Was going for an A1 but i would be happy with a A2/B1 on that paper.

    Anyone else get 20 for the x value in question 11? Cant remember exactky but was a nice whole number

    I got about 12ish, i saw how the quadratic would be 20/60 but the equation didn't work out so i had to use the quadratic formula. Is x=20 would you not have gotten a negative figure for A as A was 30 -2x at equil??


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Ima_mokster


    Im pretty sure x=10?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Doctorhopeful


    Hard exam, the way they asked for stuff was really convoluted sometimes. Did 9 Qs but did them well, still think i'm on track for an A, whether it's an A1 or A2 depends on the marking scheme i think. Glad it's over. The experiments were perfect btw, did all three!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    I got about 12ish, i saw how the quadratic would be 20/60 but the equation didn't work out so i had to use the quadratic formula. Is x=20 would you not have gotten a negative figure for A as A was 30 -2x at equil??

    I took A as 30-x so I guess i'll have to see what others got


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    What was the percentage yield for benzoic acid?I think I got around 43%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Doctorhopeful


    The_N4sir wrote: »
    I took A as 30-x so I guess i'll have to see what others got

    Ah **** i did X for both idk which is right... probably why it didn't work out so cleanly....


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    I got about 12ish, i saw how the quadratic would be 20/60 but the equation didn't work out so i had to use the quadratic formula. Is x=20 would you not have gotten a negative figure for A as A was 30 -2x at equil??

    No it wouldn't be minus 2 as they were all in the same ratio


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭Fiona G


    Whyyy do I look at these threads? Already seeing mistakes I made. Yet I'll still continue to read the thread...:p

    Was an okay paper. Bit trickier than other years in that there was a lot of reasoning to do instead of learned off stuff. Can't really predict my grade at all tbh. I loved the short questions and the rates question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    Ah **** i did X for both idk which is right... probably why it didn't work out so cleanly....

    You should still get a lot of the marks for the calculation anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Doctorhopeful


    What was the percentage yield for benzoic acid?I think I got around 43%

    I got 42.42% without rounding during the Q so i imagine anywhere around 42-43 is right


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    I got 42.42% without rounding during the Q so i imagine anywhere around 42-43 is right

    I definitely got that wrong I got around 60%:P
    Not having the equation threw me off for that part


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 DexterXX


    I got 50 overall for the equilibrium gas question. What did ye say for the effect of an increase in storage temperature on pressure?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    The_N4sir wrote: »
    Around -270 kJ/mol

    Got that as well :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭AlfaJack


    DexterXX wrote: »
    What did ye say for the effect of an increase in storage temperature on pressure?

    Increase in temperature favours the forwards reacting and the forwards reaction produces the greater number of moles so the pressure would increase? That's what I said anyways...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Doctorhopeful


    The_N4sir wrote: »
    I definitely got that wrong I got around 60%:P
    Not having the equation threw me off for that part

    Yeah that was indicative of how the paper was oddly worded! You had to read in the question that it was 1:1 took me ages to realise


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Seanh966


    Yeah that was indicative of how the paper was oddly worded! You had to read in the question that it was 1:1 took me ages to realise

    Pretty confident answer was 56 or 57% , several A1 candidates in my class got this


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Dingle123


    Seanh966 wrote: »
    Pretty confident answer was 56 or 57% , several A1 candidates in my class got this

    I got about 57% aswell


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Kerrypike


    Dingle123 wrote: »
    I got about 57% aswell

    How was it supposed to be done?


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    In the equilibrium question I got x=9.135. Any one esle get that


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    Yeah I think the answer is 57 good few in my class got that


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Seanh966


    Kerrypike wrote: »
    How was it supposed to be done?

    Grams of phenylmethanol Divided by molecular mass of phenylmethanol to get number of moles, ratio is one is to one so multiply this number by the molecular mass of benzoic acid for theoretical yield, put actual yield over theoretical for percentage yield


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    Kerrypike wrote: »
    How was it supposed to be done?

    N = 6.35all over 108 (mr ) = 0.026 0.026 X 122(mr of benzoic acid ) = 3.172 1.83 all over 3.172 x100 = 57٪


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Thebabyjesus


    Got 57.7% for percentage, what did people get for grams pf crystalised sodium thiasulfate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Kerrypike


    Oh right I see.. I just used grams dang it


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