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Gamsat 2012

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    Hey everybody!
    I thought I'd share my story too. Just graduated from a BA (French and English) in NUIG with honors so sorted for entry purposes, just the GAMSAT to get through ;)

    I have no science background bar LC Biology, with the normal JC sciences. According to the Griffith book a good A-Level knowledge of all three sciences will suffice so I've launched into a LC Chemistry book just as a general base, about half way through at the moment, and when I'm done (hopefully before the end of the month) I'm going to tackle the chemistry questions on the GAMSAT practice papers and also tap up any areas that the Griffith book mentions and are lacking in my knowledge with a Uni level chemistry book.

    Plan is to hit physics for december (LC level as is stated on GAMSAT site) and then Biology revision and upscaling of detail for the exam.

    I'm hoping to have my sciences pretty much solid by the end of January. (I'm in the lucky position that I am on a year out so I can devote considerable time everyday, so I think that this is doable.)

    How does this sound to people? Comments? Ideas?

    Plan is to focus on the other two sections closer to the exam. I'm usually good with essays under pressure so I'm not too worried about that section (yet), but I'm not going to be stupid about it, as the exam approaches I will spend enough time practicing and working under exam conditions.
    Section one looks challenging too, lots of lateral thinking. Practice, practice, practice methinks!

    If anybody from Galway is looking to do a bit of group study I'd be all up for that. I'm in NUIG most days. Would be glad even to have somebody in the same position to meet for a cupán tae or lunch! Let me know :)

    you have easily enough time to get your science chops up to scratch.

    I only did 3 months of light study (read hapazard bad study) and got a 61 (which on this year's exam was 90th percentile).
    From talking to a few of the other RCSI Geps who got in on their first attempt, the general consensus is be REALLY good at essays if you're not from a science background. It's not uncommon to hear of people getting 80+ scores on the essay section (I got 79).
    I know it's only 25% of the total mark, but because of the curve marking it can completely offset a not-so-great section 3 mark.
    I completely fell apart about ten minutes into section 3 and miraculously managed to pull a 50. which is an awful score for that section but a good section one and two put me in the top 10% of people who took the test overall.
    For a reasonably bright person who did well in a humanities degree, a 70 and 80 in sections 1 and 2 really isn't too much of an impossibility (getting close enough to those targets is plausible), and should you get that type of score you can afford to only get 46/47 in section 3 and you'll end up with an overall score of over 60.

    Because of the amount of people doing the gamsat with absolutely zero preparation for section 3, and the fact it's marked from a mysterious curve, you'd really have to pull off some sort of miracle to get less than 45 in section 3 with some good prep and practice (UNDER EXAM CONDITIONS - can't emphasise that enough: I thought i was great getting all the practice papers nailed while lounging around under no time constraints. On the day, 15 minutes into section 3 my brain completely collapsed).

    So, to sum up,
    1. Yes, it's easily doable for you to be prepared for the gamsat in march.
    2. Really tweak your essay and argument skills to offset any potential disasters in section 3.
    3. Realise that it's not about how smart or skilled you are, it's a competition. There is no 'you have to be this smart to study medicine' line. There is a 'you have to be this much smarter than the rest of the exam takers' line. And for that reason, I wouldn't recommend a study group at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭tiredcity


    jtsuited wrote: »
    From talking to a few of the other RCSI Geps who got in on their first attempt, the general consensus is be REALLY good at essays if you're not from a science background. It's not uncommon to hear of people getting 80+ scores on the essay section (I got 79).

    Completely agree with this. I'm a 2nd year GEP in RCSI whose first degree was English & History. I got 64 following three months study on my first (and thankfully only!) attempt in UK thanks to an 87 in S2. Read the New Yorker and something like the Economist and the broadsheet Sunday papers every week. It was the single best thing that I did and very enjoyable when science was getting to me! Other than that I only had a background of C3s in the Leaving in Physics and Chem so taught myself Org Chem via the for Dummies books, read up on a bit of biology, physical chemistry and physics. I would say bother less with the finicky bits and make sure you grasp the overall concept because in the exam itself, you're going to be extremely stuck for time and need to be able to think on your feet. Practise papers and focusing on your natural strong points are the way to go. I also messed up the science section on the day 'cause I got no lunch, but my S1 and S2 got me in. I'm not going to lie, catching up on all the science stuff in first year was a manic nightmare but I did grand in everything come exam time so it can be done, and the type of science involved from the second you get through your GAMSAT successfully is very different (and much more interesting). Work hard, stick your bum in the chair and focus every day and it should pay off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭PeadarGalway


    Thanks for the advice guys, really appreciate it! :) Fingers crossed I'll be in the same position as you next year - I'm aiming for either UCD or RCSI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭tiredcity


    No prob, best of luck in March! It can seem incredibly daunting at this stage in the game, but if you really want it and are willing to work for it, in the majority of cases that'll see you through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    tiredcity wrote: »
    I'm not going to lie, catching up on all the science stuff in first year was a manic nightmare but I did grand in everything come exam time so it can be done, QUOTE]

    amen to that.....what's particularly frustrating is finding out most of the class (because of the North Americans) have at least touched on such monstrosities as the Coag cascade in their previous studies. The staff are very understanding if you've zero science background though and constantly reassure you that you'll catch up eventually (and slowly).


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Poppo4


    Hi,

    Does anyone happen to know around when the GAMSAT papers are set? Just trying to get a step-up on possible themes that may come up in S2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Roger_that


    Poppo4 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Does anyone happen to know around when the GAMSAT papers are set? Just trying to get a step-up on possible themes that may come up in S2.

    Its good that you're thinking ahead but the topics are usually so general and not guaranteed to be at all timely or representative of current affairs. I sat it in London in September and the essay themes were space travel and humour so it really is pot luck. I would never have expected space travel to come up as a theme. The humour one was brilliant though. It all depends on what you can draw from in your own knowledge and experience.

    I'd recommend a book called 'the meaning of things' by A.C. Grayling. Its full of short essays on a whole range of themes and I found it very useful.

    Also the essay writing tips in Griffith's GAMSAT guide were good for how to structure and plan. I'm sure everyone has their own way of preparing... timing is paramount also but those two sources were invaluable to me. My essays basically saved me.

    Good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Poppo4


    Thanks for the book titles, will give them a look

    Would space travel question not have been in relation to the US government cancelling the funding for NASA and looking at new space travel projects!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Roger_that


    Poppo4 wrote: »
    Thanks for the book titles, will give them a look

    Would space travel question not have been in relation to the US government cancelling the funding for NASA and looking at new space travel projects!?

    No it was more to do the the reason for space travel in the first place. The quote that I responded to was 'We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard'. It was based around the merits of space travel itself and the reason for going.

    Same with the humour one... I said that humour was invented by man to help endure the suffering of everyday life. You could have also argued the contrary.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 scgun500


    Hi just interested to find out if anyone has started or is interested in starting a GAMSAT study group in UL?

    Are you still interested in starting a GAMSAT study group in UL, I don't go to UL but I live close by.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    Hey,
    am thinking of sitting the GAMSAT in March.I am currently doing a masters degree but to be honest the amount of work as part of it would allow me to put 10 weeks study into the gamsat.My sister done it in 2008 and literally done 2 hours a day for 8 weeks and done extremely well in it and she came from a non science degree..Im also living with someone who done it in 2007 and he worked full time whilst studying and told me he spent 2 hours a night for the first 8 weeks study den 5 hours a day for the last 2 weeks before the exam..both of these people would have been very strong on the essays so id say with a bit of study on the sciences it could easily be possible to do in 3 months


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Roger_that


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Hey,
    am thinking of sitting the GAMSAT in March.I am currently doing a masters degree but to be honest the amount of work as part of it would allow me to put 10 weeks study into the gamsat.My sister done it in 2008 and literally done 2 hours a day for 8 weeks and done extremely well in it and she came from a non science degree..Im also living with someone who done it in 2007 and he worked full time whilst studying and told me he spent 2 hours a night for the first 8 weeks study den 5 hours a day for the last 2 weeks before the exam..both of these people would have been very strong on the essays so id say with a bit of study on the sciences it could easily be possible to do in 3 months

    IMO its really not practical to compare x's 2hrs study a night for whatever months to yourself. Different people are at different levels at different subjects.

    Simply put, if you want to do medicine, you should give it a go. You can always do it again and if you REALLY want it, that won't bother you one bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Adeline07


    Is anyone living in Dublin who is sitting in March 2012? I'll like an exchange of ideas and/or study contacts.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Hey, Yeah Im doing it in March and I live in Dublin, I live near UCD so could meet there or somewhere city centre, whatever suits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Adeline07


    Hey, Yeah Im doing it in March and I live in Dublin, I live near UCD so could meet there or somewhere city centre, whatever suits.

    Thank you for your response.
    Please drop me a line at ade.oluborode@gmail.com. We can arrange to meet at ucd or dit city centre.

    Cheers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 CATRYAN


    Hey! Im doing gamsats this march are u interested in starting a study group!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    horsemeat, cop on. dont post like that here again.
    post deleted


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 LoveSick


    To say that illness and medicine have had profound impact in my life is an underestimation of the highest form.I have lost my boyfriend and my Dad to cancer, and for as long as I can remember I have wanted to be a doctor.
    I just want to share my GAMSAT story with you and hope that you can give me some help please.
    Realising I would not get enough points in my Leaving Cert I settled on primary teaching...During the 2nd year of my 3 year B.Ed degree I began researching how I could access medicine as a mature student. Graduate entry medicine was just being set up and although I was going to complete my teaching degree, I set myself the goal of achieving a 2.1 to ensure I meet the graduate medicine requirements.
    As I began my final year my beautiful boyfriend was diagnosed with synovial sarcoma, a rare soft tissue sarcoma, or cancer. I was completing 3rd year as my sweetheart endured treatments aimed at arresting his disease by cutting, burning and poisoning. All of his suffering and sacrifices were not enough.
    After graduation I did not want to accept any teaching job. I was devastated and completely heart-broken. Yet on my parents and my boyfriend’s parent’s advice I took a job in a local primary school.
    My best friend and deepest love slipped away in March 2009.

    In August 2009 my Dad was diagnosed with adenocarcinoma, lung cancer with metastases to brain and bone. A terminal diagnosis. My Dad’s illness was even more complicated that my boyfriends...
    My lovely Dad slipped away in June 2011.

    I have lost so much; I have felt pain and sadness beyond words and anything I ever dared to imagine. My world has been turned upside down.

    In spite of this, I managed, at a whim, to sit the GAMSAT in London in 2010, just as sort of a practice and to see how I would actually get on. Between my grief at losing my boyfriend and caring for my Dad I did not have much time or energy for preparing or for studying for the exam. I didn’t tell anyone that my dream to study medicine was still in focus. I think it’s a bit like doing your driving test; it you tell people you’re doing the exam, not getting a place is basically like failing... But my desire to become a doctor is even stronger than ever....

    Anyway I scored a 53. (S1 = 56, S2 = 70 and S3 = 43)
    It was not good enough, but almost.... I think Limerick was 54 last year? I had not even written one full essay. I didn’t do any courses. I got the Griffiths Gamsat Review book, became familiar with the exam, kindly got some help from my friends with the science section, and that’s about all. So I was very actually very happy with my score. There was/is hope that one day I would/will make it.

    I decided that I did not have a lot of time left with my Dad, but a lot of time to get into medicine, so I dropped the idea after doing the exam in Sep 2010, only feeling strong enough to try to take it up now again. But I need your help.
    When I did the exam last year, I did not put any pressure on myself; it was just a trial run. Now though I am very serious about trying to get a place for college in Sep 2012. I am applying for a career break from my teaching job; I have to do that by a certain deadline which is actually before I sit the exam. I have to do well enough this time around...

    I do have some good Biology books belonging to my sister who is a nurse, as well as access to the UCC library, a leaving cert Chemistry book, Chemistry for Dummies, Organic Chemistry for Dummies and Rapid Revision Physics. But I am completely overwhelmed with all the other resources available.
    I am planning on doing the GradMed intensive revision course for Biology, Chemistry, and Written Communication. Although the only thing putting me off is that I’m not from Dublin, so it will mean travelling and staying overnight etc...for 3 weekends. Do you think it will be worth the time and effort and loss in time for study??
    I am also thinking of getting the Des O’Neill notes on the verbal reasoning and the essay practice package. Or I have just read about the new essay preparation package offered by Griffiths Gamsat Review, though this is new, so there is no real feedback. It’s hard to know which one to go for?
    I will buy the Examkrackers for the verbal reasoning... What else can or should I do?
    I am just seriously worried about section 3, especially all of the chemistry. 43 is such a poor result, I’m hoping the extra notes from the courses will be a help as it is very hard opening up books and studying blind.
    Hopefully having sat the exam already will stand to me, but what if my score actually goes down this time?

    My experiences have brought me to the furthest reaches of sorrow. Everything has been impossibly difficult the past few years.
    Doctors watch the wheel of life and death turn in front of their eyes as they welcome newborns into the world and hold the hands of others as they leave. I want to be a part of it all, the science, the care, the ugly, and the joy.
    I am determined to draw from my personal experiences and develop the skills I have already acquired and to transfer them into a future career in medicine. I may have been powerless when I lost loved ones to cancer, but I refuse to be helpless in what I can do to perpetuate purpose in my own life.


    This is the first time in so long that I am a little hopeful for the year ahead. I am not content as a teacher; I want to be a doctor more than ever. I would really appreciate any help you could offer. Thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Adeline07


    Hi Catryan,

    Are you still interestyed in a study group? Do you live in Dublin?
    CATRYAN wrote: »
    Hey! Im doing gamsats this march are u interested in starting a study group!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Hey guys, i might join that group if there's space.

    Another quick question, this could be more so for current GEMs. I read a few people saying they did the 1001 questions in MCAT org chem, Im currently trying to do that myself and find the going really tough. Im doing it in conjunction with the book as well and its really tough. Did ye find it the same when ye were practising them. Like some of the questions seem to assume a fair bit of prior knowledge.

    Thanks guys


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    folks, just a reminder- there's a sticky on this forum for Gamsat notes for sale/wanted.

    please keep all requests/offers to that thread only, to prevent cluttering up other threads.

    thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 cnileochain87


    Hi all,

    I have taken the plunge and decided to do the GAMSAT's in March too. Would be really interested in meeting up with a few of you to even discuss what the best plan of attack is! I have no science at all.. and I mean at all!! I am also planning on doing GradMed intensive revision course. I live within 10 mins of DIT and the same of UCD, if ye were on for meeting even for a bit of support.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 declanmoffit


    Hi there,

    Can anyone give me a link to the marking scheme for the GAMSAT exam. I have heard a lot of information regarding weighting of questions dependant on proportion of candidates answering them correctly, as well as well as there being "trial" questions included in the exam which don't neccessarily contribute anything to your final mark.

    Can anybody share a link to how the GAMSAT is really marked? I haven't yet been able to find one.

    Thanks in advance!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 declanmoffit


    Hi there,

    Can anyone give me a link to the marking scheme for the GAMSAT exam. I have heard a lot of information regarding weighting of questions dependant on proportion of candidates answering them correctly, as well as well as there being "trial" questions included in the exam which don't necessarily contribute anything to your final mark.

    Can anybody share a link to how the GAMSAT is really marked? I haven't yet been able to find one.

    Thanks in advance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 cnileochain87


    Hey,

    With regard to the marking system I think they are very hush hush on how they mark..

    I think basically it doesn't matter if you get it right / wrong if everyone else in the hall gets it right / wrong you are relying on getting those questions that others fall down on correct... I would have thought this was the same for any exam but I am doing the gradmed course and they keep emphasising this...

    What they keep saying is your biggest enemy are the smart ones in the hall with you!!!!

    I'm not sure this is much help but apparently that's how they roll!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Poppo4


    From what I've heard the exam is marked so that the questions people get correct most are worth the lowest and vice versa.

    Also, unless you've taken the exam already you won't know but there are a number of exam papers on the day. The exam paper that you get will have questions in different orders and completely different questions to the exam papers given to the people around you. Obviously to ensure no one can cheat by copying someone beside them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 LNH86


    hey does anybody know how many places are available for the grad med courses in the 4 uni's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Surprised by how quiet this thread is with less than a month to go before the big day. Hopefully thats a sign of falling interest in the courses and thus lower points in 2012 :D

    Ok, Im around UCD, anyone want to meet up to exchange ideas one of the days?


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    Flange/Flanders I would like to meet up but I'm abroad unfortunately and just coming back for the exam.

    Getting a bit concerned at not having heard anything with regard to the day itself, the location and timetable for the exam etc. I got a fair few emails from the London Gamsat team in the month leading up to it... Have you or anybody else heard anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭cliona88


    I haven't gotten anything either, does anyone know where it is normally held? Hopefully the lack action on the thread means there's not too many doing the exam, it could also mean that they're all really busy studying though!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Poppo4


    If I remember correctly last year we heard nothing until two weeks before the exam and it was just to issue us with the exam ticket and with the details of the exam.

    Starting to get stressed now, it seems like the kettle is constantly on with me needing fresh cups of coffee!


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Roger_that


    Yeah things seem v.quiet alright compared to previous years. Here's hoping my 62 from London last year us good enough for UCD as I'm not sitting it again.

    Best of luck to you all. It's not as bad as you think but practice under exam conditions is essential!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    "It could mean they're all really busy studying though."

    Shhh of course they're not... That's reassuring that you haven't heard from them either then. With London there was definitely official emails 2 weeks before the date. I'm only flying in on the Friday night so I am pretty screwed if I'm not in Dublin to be honest...

    How is your studying going Cliona? First time doing the exam? My gut feeling is the cut-offs will come down (posted about it here:http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=77251104 ).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Hi guys,

    I did it in RCSI last year and i dont think i got the entry ticket until about 3 days before hand so Im not stressed about that yet. I packed in my job on friday there to concentrate on it properly so here's hoping it all goes well. This is complete idle speculation by me but Doc2be said on her blog that there seemed less interest in the GEM at the RCSI open day and I thought the numbers at the UCD open day were down (only a small bit down but down none the less!). So Roger, thats great score to have.

    Im really hoping and praying that the numbers hold this year again or preferably go down cos i REALLY want to be in GEM in september, wherever....though preferably UCD....cos i always wanted to go there....tho I'll go to RCSI, Limerick or Cork no bother.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    I don't mind where I go, putting UCD ahead of RCSI though so that pretty much rules RCSI out completely.

    Anyone going to the open days in UCD? I'm going to one on the 26th of April. Will be the first one I've got to go to, excited!

    Also it seems to me that wherever people go for the open days they immediately make it their first choice, I'm expecting the same to happen to me and I'll probably be disappointed if I don't get UCD come August. Anybody here been to all (or at least more than one) of them and can give a more balanced opinion by any chance?

    Best of luck to all in the exam by the way!


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Roger_that


    I'd go along with that... Even though it is speculation I've been keeping an eye on this forum and the GEM world for about 18 months and this is definitely as quiet as I've seen it. Great news for everyone who wants to get in but I'd also be curious to know why. Do others know something that we don't? That sounds so paranoid lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Poppo4


    I've been to both UCD & RSCI open days in the past year, both were really impressive. Still trying to decide in which order I'll put them. I'm a former UCD student so I'll have the benefit of knowing the place inside out but the prestige of RSCI is massive...but it is a little more expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Havent been to Limerick but I hope to get down in April sometime, even just to see the college and hopefully one of the staff will show me around.

    Yeah, definitely agree that its really quiet here, maybe its the cost thats putting people off. I think this time last year the forum was up to about 10 or 15 pages at this stage, tho that could be GAMSAT induced madness gripping my long term memory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    All other things being equal I hate that RCSI have post Xmas exams... Much prefer the pre-Xmas stress/madness and then having a relaxing week or two over Xmas where you don't have to feel guilty about not studying :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Biologic


    All other things being equal I hate that RCSI have post Xmas exams... Much prefer the pre-Xmas stress/madness and then having a relaxing week or two over Xmas where you don't have to feel guilty about not studying :D

    1st year has xmas exams in January, 2nd year has them in early December. I didn't mind the timing of 1st year exams too much because you still get 3 weeks off after them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    Good to know that! Thanks Biologic :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 bill05


    Hi I dont know If any body noticed this or not .. that we are not allowed to bring any type of calculator into the exam ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Just wondering where in previous years, has the exam been held in Dublin? I'm reading Blackrock in the UCD venue there, but has it ever been anywhere else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Biologic


    It was held in RCSI Stephen's Green my year, and every other year I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lonelywanderer


    bill05 wrote: »
    Hi I dont know If any body noticed this or not .. that we are not allowed to bring any type of calculator into the exam ..


    I noticed that all right. Not too concerned, thought I'd definitely need it in London but only used it once or twice and that was just to double check something. It's really not a maths heavy exam at all, so much more about your fundamental understanding of the concepts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    I really and truly hope that the fall in posting activity on boards this year is in direct proportion to the fall in entry score in September 2012 :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭etymon


    I really and truly hope that the fall in posting activity on boards this year is in direct proportion to the fall in entry score in September 2012 :D

    wasn't as much interest in the Open Day this year at all, I think it's safe to say interest in dwindling, think our year (2010) was the peak of interest in terms of competition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 mcdonnellk02


    I have sent this to a few of my friends interested in doing it so i said i would just paste it to here.

    This is Just a summary about the exam and my opinions on what you should focus on from what i have learned,

    about the GAMSAT then. ya i sat them in september cause i was studying for the during the summer. the study ddint go to well for them at all, like id say i was up in the library for maybe 6 hours a day before it and i prob literally only did maybe a half hour out of those 6 for study. the rest i was just online on facebook and playing games, so i was really only doing them in september as a practice run cause i was sure i was goinng to do terrible. it turns out though i did well enough and got a 64. as ya know id say, the GAMSAT has 3 sections, first is reading, second is essays and the third is science. the only reason i got that score was cause of the science section. it was def my strongest area and it is worth twice as much as the other 2 sections. i got like a 50 in the essays, 60 in the reading and then 73 in the science so that really brought me up.

    i decided i wouldnt sit it then in march cause i hoped 64 would be enough to get me in as the cut of for ucd was 60 the year before and i hoped the cut off wouldnt raise that much. turns out the cut off actually went down this year due to there being more places so that will give ya a better chance aswell.

    if your willing to take a year out just to study for the gamsat id say go right ahead, but i honestly think if ya just start now and just do an hour a day until march ya would do really well even with the exams coming up. with all my dossing over the summer id say i really only did 2 full weeks of study when ya add it all up together. so if ya put your mind to it i think ya should aim to get in march. if your not going to study for it, i would def say do it anyway just so ya can have an attempt at it and get a feel for the exam. and just to know where your kinda at in relation to the 3 sections.

    if your practicing for section one id say just get some obscure technical scientific journals and just start reading those as they would be difficult to understand but they would get ya used to reading complicated passages so there would be no shocks in the exam. also im sure there are websites online where ya just read extracts and then answer questions on them after. i really didnt do that much for that section, just tried to read alot. There are particular ways on maximising your time in this section, like reading the questions first and then reading the passage, so you are not wasting time going back over the passage to find the answer. There are def loads of these sort of tips online if ya just want to check for them.

    for section 2, this was by far my worst section. im terrible at wirting essays and it really showed. i didnt do much practice for it at all and this is the section were with practice is the one ya can really improve your score the most. i would say try to get 3 essays done a week. chose a random quote or topic from some websites( im sure there are a few which generate random quotes or topics and ya have to write an essay on them ). and try to do them in half an hour. just keep doing that and ya will get better with time managment and better with structure and brain storming. i didnt do any of that cause i just was too lazy but since if your sitting it in march i would say to start as soon as ya can so that your workload doesnt pile up. Also I remember cash you were pretty good at English anyway so you might be able to do better in the first 2 sections

    for section 3, i found that chemistry for dummies; the inorganic and organic books were extremely helpfull. they were def well worth getting and brought me up a few points on the gamsat. if ya know those 2 books you will do really well in the chemistry section of the gamsat but make sure you understand them and not just learn them off cause the gamsat questions can be abit tricky but if ya understand what is in those books ya should hve no prob. The thing I noticed is that in the science sections they give ya all the material ya would need to answer the question, so just aslong as you understood the concepts instead of learning of particular chemicals structures or names of particular compounds you should be grand. Also if ya got a leaving cert chemistry book, that wouldn’t be too bad just to look over the basics. for the physics i tried to use my sisters leaving cert book. i only got through the first few chapters and couldnt seem to learn that much of it. the physics section is only worth 20% of the science section so it isnt the most important. Hardly any physics questions came up at. Even the ones that did come up, the questions stem supplied you with everything you needed to know, so even though I hadn’t studied I was able to work it out using common sense.

    in the science section aswell they give ya info and important things to know in relation to the questions they ask. so say if some einstein came in without ever had studied science he could do really well in the test without ever have studied. it just the study helps ya to understand they info that they give ya. but in that info ya should have everything to answer the question and ya wont have to remember anything. so as long as ya understand what your studying in the physics, chemistry and biology.

    i did actually do a course, called des o niels. its not worth it though. the sciecne section isnt the best at all and the books for dummies are alot better and way way way cheaper. they also sent out reading extracts that ya have to answer questions on and they had the answers aswell but ya def can find a book in easons or online that can do the same and once again, it is way way way cheaper. the onlly really good thing about the course was that for the essay questions, they give ya topics and ya can submit them online to a marker how then corrects it and sends ya back info and where ya can improve. your able to get this byitself from des o niels but its still pretty expensive. but if your in college ya could find maybe a person in arts in english or an english lecture and email them and ask if they can maybe correct and essay for ya once a week just to see if your improving. just a thought though.

    over all though, def do the exam in march no matter what, if just for practice anyway. if your thinking about doing it seriously start your study now and only doing an hour aday or even less but try and be consistent and ya should have no probs with work load come march. and if ya are studying for it, get books for dummies on whatever topic your struggling with. there really really handy. and the science sections is worth twice as much as the other 2 so work more on this but the essay section is the one that ya can improve in the most if ya work at it abit cause ya learn to wirte good essays fast enough.

    If ya need anything else or dont understand anything, just send me a facebook message and i can answer anything ya want to know.

    also, if you put in the effort you will def get the exam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭beardedmaster


    also, if you put in the effort you will def get the exam!

    They told me that about the Leaving Cert. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Flange/Flanders


    Thanks for that mcd. Can i ask you what your undergrad was?


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