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12 weeks in Jail for offensive web posts about poor April Jones

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    #92
    hardCopy
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    lukesmom wrote: »
    hardCopy wrote: »
    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    dave1982 wrote: »
    Good

    I have no idea what the joke was and don't agree with it but neither do I agree with taking people to court over posts on Internet sites.
    I think a talking to from the police would be enough.

    It shouldn't even take up police time.

    It's never too soon for jokes.

    Nice

    And you would mind if your little girl was missing and some twat decides to post a highly offensive sexually explicit 'joke' about her? Come off it.

    Of course I'd mind, I'd be disgusted.

    That doesn't mean someone should go to jail for it.


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    #93
    steve9859
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    If he had stood on the street, gathered a sizeable crowd around him, and then made those jokes, he would have been arrested (that's if he wasn't beaten to death first)

    The internet should be no different...it certainly shouldn't be somewhere you can hide. Some seem to think it should be an 'anything goes' environment...and I fundamentally disagree with that


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    #94
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    steve9859 wrote: »
    If he had stood on the street, gathered a sizeable crowd around him, and then made those jokes, he would have been arrested (that's if he wasn't beaten to death first)

    Bollocks. What exactly would he have been arrested for?

    Do comedians not do exactly the same thing every night of the week?


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    #95
    up for anything
    Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Kolton Gray Peephole wrote: »
    So why do you think the girl's family should be "biding their time" over this joke?

    Once again you're putting words in my mouth. I said if I were a member of her family - not that they should.


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    #96
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    steve9859 wrote: »
    If he had stood on the street, gathered a sizeable crowd around him, and then made those jokes, he would have been arrested (that's if he wasn't beaten to death first)

    The internet should be no different...it certainly shouldn't be somewhere you can hide. Some seem to think it should be an 'anything goes' environment...and I fundamentally disagree with that

    And how do you legislate? Is it legislated from your point of view, from conservative point of view or a liberal point of view? How do you decide what is acceptable, or where the line is exactly? You either believe in free speech or you don't.


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    #97
    Allyall
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    The Biggest mistake that he made, apart from the obvious, was his timing.

    Had he waited a couple of weeks/months, he probably would've gone by unnoticed. That makes the sentencing even more ridiculous.

    I think this is the same guy that had a facebook page telling sick jokes, and when people got up in arms against him a few months ago about another news story at the time, he told them all to fúck off, and that they didn't have to read them, or go out of their way to find his page. I think that's why his sentence was so harsh.

    Still does not justify it one single bit.

    I presume he is appealing it? Does anyone know?


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    #98
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    steve9859 wrote: »
    If he had stood on the street, gathered a sizeable crowd around him, and then made those jokes, he would have been arrested (that's if he wasn't beaten to death first)

    The internet should be no different...it certainly shouldn't be somewhere you can hide. Some seem to think it should be an 'anything goes' environment...and I fundamentally disagree with that

    I think what you are saying is if its not acceptable to say in reality then it's not acceptable to post it on the Internet.
    Lots of people will say things on line they would not say in RL.


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    #99
    Allyall
    Registered Users Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    steve9859 wrote: »
    If he had stood on the street, gathered a sizeable crowd around him, and then made those jokes, he would have been arrested (that's if he wasn't beaten to death first)

    Maybe, but you have to remember, there was a large amount of people who weren't making any noise, and wouldn't allow him to have been beaten, although doubt many would've jumped in, as he's not worth getting in a fight over.
    But it wouldn't be as basic as you envisage, as most people thankfully, believe our basic rights, are definitely worth defending.
    steve9859 wrote: »
    The internet should be no different...it certainly shouldn't be somewhere you can hide. Some seem to think it should be an 'anything goes' environment...and I fundamentally disagree with that

    Because it is what it is, you are allowed to fundamentally disagree with anything you want.

    However, some people aren't as lucky.


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    #100
    lukesmom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    hardCopy wrote: »
    lukesmom wrote: »
    hardCopy wrote: »
    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    dave1982 wrote: »
    Good

    I have no idea what the joke was and don't agree with it but neither do I agree with taking people to court over posts on Internet sites.
    I think a talking to from the police would be enough.

    It shouldn't even take up police time.

    It's never too soon for jokes.

    Nice

    And you would mind if your little girl was missing and some twat decides to post a highly offensive sexually explicit 'joke' about her? Come off it.

    Of course I'd mind, I'd be disgusted.

    That doesn't mean someone should go to jail for it.


    Yeah but I am agreeing with you that he shouldn't go yo jail! I've said that several times


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    #101
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Many people on this have alluded to hoping the suspect (who has been found guilty of nothing) is violently and repeatedly raped in prison.

    But hey that's ok.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #102
    lukesmom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Many people on this have alluded to hoping the suspect (who has been found guilty of nothing) is violently and repeatedly raped in prison.

    But hey that's ok.

    True that was my first thought but since then I don't believe he murdered her


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    #103
    steve9859
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    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Bollocks. What exactly would he have been arrested for?

    Do comedians not do exactly the same thing every night of the week?

    No, they don't. Don't know what comedians you watch!!

    Edit: oh....and it would be 'disturbing the peace'. same law as gets you arrested for making racist remarks. Like the guy who tweeted LOL when Muamba collapsed on the pitch....he got 2 months in jail.


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    #104
    ibarelycare
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    steve9859 wrote: »
    No, they don't. Don't know what comedians you watch!!

    Never heard of Frankie Boyle?


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    #105
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Jesus, much as I don't usually think Maddie jokes or dead baby jokes are particularly funny, I have laughed many a time at off-colour jokes.

    Emotions are running very high in the UK about this case (understandably) but an angry mob rocking up to his door? Bet there were the same types who set up RIP April pages before he'd even been arrested for murder.

    As an aside, much as it was a nice gesture to release balloons and lanterns, they're actually awful for the environment. Those lanterns have been banned from a lot of wedding venues due to the hazard they cause.


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    #106
    vicwatson
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    Some people are very very very very weird:(

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-admits-offensive-april-facebook-posts-124921397.html


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    #107
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    steve9859 wrote: »
    Edit: oh....and it would be 'disturbing the peace'. same law as gets you arrested for making racist remarks. Like the guy who tweeted LOL when Muamba collapsed on the pitch....he got 2 months in jail.
    I really don't think that you know what you're on about. Making racist remarks does not get you arrested for "disturbing the peace"

    And that guy didn't get 2 months for tweeting "LOL". He was sentenced with a racially aggravated public order offence, iirc.


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    #108
    SunnyDub1
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    attention seeking , disturbed scumbag trying to impress his mates! Lil Sh*t should have got longer. He will be out in 3 weeks :rolleyes:


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    #109
    saiint
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    attention seeking , disturbed scumbag trying to impress his mates! Lil Sh*t should have got longer. He will be out in 3 weeks :rolleyes:

    he'll be out ina few days
    guarrenteed
    but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out


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    #110
    super_furry
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    He's a scumbag no doubt and he'll never be able to show his face in that town again, but should he really be locked up for three months because of a sick joke?


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    #111
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Okay, what I'm going to do is move all the posts out of the April Missing thread into here as they are dragging that thread off-topic.

    I'll do that and then re-open this one so just give me a few minutes.

    Cheers.


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    #112
    steve9859
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    El Weirdo wrote: »
    I really don't think that you know what you're on about. Making racist remarks does not get you arrested for "disturbing the peace"

    And that guy didn't get 2 months for tweeting "LOL". He was sentenced with a racially aggravated public order offence, iirc.

    yeh....an aggravated public order offence which was all carried out on twitter. He gave racist abuse to those who challenged his original 'LOL' tweet. And deservedly got jailed, as I have said before, the virtual world should have the same rules as the real world

    And yes you can get arrested for racist abuse....maybe do some research next time you tell me that I dont know what I'm on about. Only recently a woman was arrested in London for racially abusing tube passengers

    Off topic, so i'll leave it now.


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    #113
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Okay, what I'm going to do is move all the posts out of the April Missing thread into here as they are dragging that thread off-topic.

    I'll do that and then re-open this one so just give me a few minutes.

    Cheers.
    Done. Thanks for your patience.


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    #114
    Fishooks12
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    Scioch wrote: »
    Is the moral of this story to start getting together in angry mods and descending on the homes of all the dirt bag TD's and bankers to get them arrested ? Cos I'll do it.

    Where would you go first? Who's house? I bet you'd say Bertie and Sean Quinn

    After that you probably couldn't give me another name

    Take your faux outrage elsewhere


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    #115
    ibarelycare
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    saiint wrote: »
    he'll be out ina few days
    guarrenteed
    but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out

    The hypocrisy in this post :rolleyes:


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    #116
    IzzyWizzy
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    This is how the UK is now. A joke. People getting thrown into prison for having an opinion and making a comment. Did I find his comment funny? No, but he posted it on his own Facebook page. He didn't say it to the mother's face and even if he had, it wasn't worthy of jail time, IMO.

    I find it really, really disturbing the way the UK is going with this sh*t. It's so over-PC, it's ridiculous. Everyone has to be punished with jail or fines. In any other country, stuff like this would just be frowned upon for being in bad taste. Now, the 'masses' will form a vigilante mob and attack anyone who dares to have a different opinion and the weak judges will cave in and placate them.

    This is one step away from 'thought police', IMO. You're basically not allowed to voice your opinion in the UK anymore, in public or in private, without fearing being thrown into jail.


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    #117
    _feedback_
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    saiint wrote: »
    he'll be out ina few days
    guarrenteed
    but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out

    Wow.

    Someone call the joke police.


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    #118
    Lingua Franca
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    saiint wrote: »
    he'll be out ina few days
    guarrenteed
    but lets hope he gets butt f*cked before he gets out


    This post is just as sick in the head as his were. Would you like 3 weeks in jail for that? Do you reckon you deserve to get 3 weeks in jail, your name and photo splashed all over the papers and anally raped for it?


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    #119
    Madam_X
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    Jail - for any amount of time let alone 12 weeks - is absolutely ridiculous. However, I wish people would quit spewing thick nonsense about "police state herpa nazis derp." They haven't the faintest clue if they think that's what it is - the guy was not jailed for being anti government, people are free to criticise the jailing. This was more to do with mob policing than actual police policing. I know people think they seem real intelligent saying that Britain is turning into a dictatorship, but they obviously have no accurate conception of what a dictatorship is. And it really belittles the experiences of people living under nightmare regimes to say Britain is along the same lines.

    Absolute free speech does not exist and never did. And thankfully. No, people shouldn't be able to broadcast/publish whatever they like - then there would be all kinds of bullying and harassment allowed. But his comments deleted and Facebook account suspended would have sufficed, not jail. Ridiculous cause for imprisonment.

    Re thought crime: it's not anything near punishment for what people think - that's melodramatic IMO. It's social media, which is a new thing and is proving difficult to regulate.

    I find it bizarre too that there is so little concern for the people on the receiving end of "free speech" (i.e. being a cuntt) and only the rights of those who harass them.


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    #120
    123balltv
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    facebook is nothing but trouble :mad:
    If I was related to April Jones I would'nt even look at social networking sites


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    #121
    _feedback_
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    123balltv wrote: »
    facebook is nothing but trouble :mad:
    If I was related to April Jones I would'nt even look at social networking sites

    But it's ok for the suspects family (and this silly feckin young lads) to have to endure it?


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