Gardaí struggling to pay bills - AGSI

Bosco boy · 25-04-2011 10:18pm

end a eknny wrote: »

i would bet my life that 90% of the people on here who are backing the gardai in there quest to mantain a better lifestyle than the common muck that they are supposed to serve, is either married, related or a member themselves of the fine upstanding organanisation that is the gardai suichana. strange that very few ordinary hard working decent folk hold the gardai in the same high estemm which they see themselves

your the one calling people common muck, I know from walking the beat and dealing with people and incidents that the vast majority of people of all classes are decent, there are pricks in all classes in fact if anything the upper classes can have a higher percentage of pricks, I don't make a god of anyone and I deal with everyone the same.

tayto lover · 25-04-2011 10:23pm

end a eknny wrote: »

i would bet my life that 90% of the people on here who are backing the gardai in there quest to mantain a better lifestyle than the common muck that they are supposed to serve, is either married, related or a member themselves of the fine upstanding organanisation that is the gardai suichana. strange that very few ordinary hard working decent folk hold the gardai in the same high estemm which they see themselves

Well you must mix with strange people yourself because i do not find that at all. Nor am i related to a garda. I do not believe the common people of Ireland to be "muck" either and i am one of the common people.
Get it off your chest lad as it is eating away at you and making you bitter. Why don't you call into your nearest Garda station and have a chat with someone. Tell them how you feel about them and maybe he will talk it through with you over a wee cup of tea and a bun. Don't be afraid.

K-9 · 25-04-2011 10:32pm

The Gardai are a reflection of society of course, hence a few bad apples and a few in debt.

end a eknny · 25-04-2011 10:37pm

cordub wrote: »

ever think that its a REFLECTION on the type of people YOU are friendly with:mad::mad: and that you hang around with !!!Maybe WE ARE the normal hardworking decent folk on this thrend and you are the MINORITY :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: BTW I am neither a garda , married or related to a garda :o IM just a normal ordinary decent working person :D:D

strange but ive worked in loads of different jobs with loads of different people from loads of different walks of life some who went on to become gardai and the general feeling about gardai ranged from at best apathy through to supicion and mistrust to a complete hatred. sure i can tell stories of things the gardai done which where good and decent and involved common sense but unfortunately for every one of these there are three times as many where they done themselves no favours. but all this aside it still comes down to the fact that a normal gardai wage should be the same as any other general worker

cordub · 25-04-2011 10:39pm

endae k nny I think all of us normal people out here have you sussed ,

;);) get rid of those chips before they drag you down too far

;)

tayto lover · 25-04-2011 10:41pm

end a eknny wrote: »

strange but ive worked in loads of different jobs with loads of different people from loads of different walks of life some who went on to become gardai and the general feeling about gardai ranged from at best apathy through to supicion and mistrust to a complete hatred. sure i can tell stories of things the gardai done which where good and decent and involved common sense but unfortunately for every one of these there are three times as many where they done themselves no favours. but all this aside it still comes down to the fact that a normal gardai wage should be the same as any other general worker

Just more of the same innuendo and supposition.
You are again scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Have you got anything concrete at all that someone on here could check out?
Of course as everyone said there are bad apples but your barrel is full of them.

end a eknny · 25-04-2011 10:42pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Well you must mix with strange people yourself because i do not find that at all. Nor am i related to a garda. I do not believe the common people of Ireland to be "muck" either and i am one of the common people.
Get it off your chest lad as it is eating away at you and making you bitter. Why don't you call into your nearest Garda station and have a chat with someone. Tell them how you feel about them and maybe HE will talk it through with you over a wee cup of tea and a bun. Don't be afraid.

somebody should tell you that they let women join the gardai now. have even seen some driving squad cars. as for the cup of tea and a bun i have spent a halr hour at the window just waiting for them to appear how long would i have to wait for tea and a bun

end a eknny · 25-04-2011 10:46pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Just more of the same innuendo and supposition.
You are again scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Have you got anything concrete at all that someone on here could check out?
Of course as everyone said there are bad apples but your barrel is full of them.

i could write a book and i am just an ordinary joe soap. imagine if i was a criminal, a lawyer, a garda, a teacher or a nurse somebody who came into contact with the gardai a lot. but sure if i did half the people wouldnt believe it and the other half probably have seen it all themselves

tayto lover · 25-04-2011 10:48pm

end a eknny wrote: »

somebody should tell you that they let women join the gardai now. have even seen some driving squad cars. as for the cup of tea and a bun i have spent a halr hour at the window just waiting for them to appear how long would i have to wait for tea and a bun

So you have gone to speak to them. Good. Thats the first step. Get it all off your chest now. I bet it was worth the little wait.
I'd say women were a very welcome addition to the Garda force.

end a eknny · 25-04-2011 10:53pm

tayto lover wrote: »

So you have gone to speak to them. Good. Thats the first step. Get it all off your chest now. I bet it was worth the little wait.
I'd say women were a very welcome addition to the Garda force.

i have spoken to them on manys an occasion and have nearly always came away with a smile on my face.

tayto lover · 25-04-2011 11:00pm

end a eknny wrote: »

i have spoken to them on manys an occasion and have nearly always came away with a smile on my face.

Had they a big grin too? I bet !!

end a eknny · 25-04-2011 11:05pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Had they a big grin too? I bet !!

dont know, i dont have eyes on the back o me head.

Bosco boy · 25-04-2011 11:12pm

end a eknny wrote: »

dont know, i dont have eyes on the back o me head.

When your parnoid you don't need eyes in the back of your head!

fighterman · 25-04-2011 11:36pm

Bosco boy wrote: »

When your parnoid you don't need eyes in the back of your head!

Sorry to be pedantic

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

Bosco boy · 25-04-2011 11:42pm

fighterman wrote: »

Sorry to be pedantic

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

now I'm paranoid!

molequidgallus · 26-04-2011 10:57am

end a eknny wrote: »

i already said there is never a time when i would ever want or need the gardai thats just stating the facts you might not like them but that your problem im over forty have never needed them never been caught as you put it and never been in court. but i could give you a list of things about the gardai which i could list that have happened to me first hand and stories told to me by reliable people i trust, that would show the gardai up for what they truly are and most people who are not gardai or not married or related to one would sit thinking yes what a bunch of overpaid arrogant muppets

Here Here end a eknny:cool:

They are muppets, I'm currently getting the book thrown at me by a copper from whitehall garda station. For running an amber light he is now trying to do me for Allegedly driving under the influence of cannabis. His detective skills failed to observe enough for a spliff flying out the window as i ran the amber light. Its a farcical charge that will probably cost me my licence & there is nothing I can do about it as far as solicitors have told me. They deserve what they get. Falsely accusing me because he could get a smell in the car and no evidence is outrageous and now I'm going to loose my licence because his powers of observation failed him. Its outrageous, they only serve and protect their own & that shower of b@stards above their little blue circle in the golden circle.:mad:

angelfire9 · 26-04-2011 11:08am

molequidgallus wrote: »

Here Here end a eknny:cool:

They are muppets, I'm currently getting the book thrown at me by a copper from whitehall garda station. For running an amber light he is now trying to do me for Allegedly driving under the influence of cannabis. His detective skills failed to observe enough for a spliff flying out the window as i ran the amber light. Its a farcical charge that will probably cost me my licence & there is nothing I can do about it as far as solicitors have told me. They deserve what they get. Falsely accusing me because he could get a smell in the car and no evidence is outrageous and now I'm going to loose my licence because his powers of observation failed him. Its outrageous, they only serve and protect their own & that shower of b@stards above their little blue circle in the golden circle.:mad:

Oh right
So firstly he was right you were driving under the influence but you threw the spliff out the window before you were pulled over so he doesn't have evidence?
Mmmmm

How is that falsely accusing you?
You did it, you admit doing it, you destroyed the evidence but you still committed the crime
Not only is driving under the influence illegal but also, in case you hadn't noticed, failure to stop at an amber light when you have time & space to stop safely is also illegal!

Funny how most Garda bashers are actually criminals :rolleyes:
And make no mistake, if you are convicted that makes you a criminal!!!!!!!!!!

(As a side note i didn't think you'd lose your licence for a first offence, have a few points already do you?)

Bosco boy · 26-04-2011 11:41am

molequidgallus wrote: »

Here Here end a eknny:cool:

They are muppets, I'm currently getting the book thrown at me by a copper from whitehall garda station. For running an amber light he is now trying to do me for Allegedly driving under the influence of cannabis. His detective skills failed to observe enough for a spliff flying out the window as i ran the amber light. Its a farcical charge that will probably cost me my licence & there is nothing I can do about it as far as solicitors have told me. They deserve what they get. Falsely accusing me because he could get a smell in the car and no evidence is outrageous and now I'm going to loose my licence because his powers of observation failed him. Its outrageous, they only serve and protect their own & that shower of b@stards above their little blue circle in the golden circle.:mad:

just as I thought, I rest my case!

torrentgallus · 26-04-2011 11:56am

I am a re-reg. look at me go.

angelfire9 · 26-04-2011 12:03pm

torrentgallus wrote: »

AS I said enough for a spliff out the window!! Not A spliff, enough for one!! There is a difference, one is rolled, smoking or ready to be smoked!!
The other isn't rolled or ready to be smoked!!
Yes I got 2 points for running the amber light so technically when it comes to court i will have 2 points. And I'm looking at a farcical ban!!

did you re-register after a ban?
naughty

reported

tayto lover · 26-04-2011 12:07pm

angelfire9 wrote: »

did you re-register after a ban?
naughty

reported

AND he didn't even leave the "777" in his new name.
Another one sussed.

Bosco boy · 26-04-2011 12:08pm

He should be done for littering as well as the other offences.

angelfire9 · 26-04-2011 12:10pm

Bosco boy wrote: »

He should be done for littering as well as the other offences.

:D:D

Pixied · 26-04-2011 12:11pm

God help us all. Of course if you've had a run in with the Gardai you're not going to want to see them paid properly!!

<And by the way, as far as i know, smoking a spliff is not the only way to take hash leading to driving under the influence of a drug>

Anyway, I'm off, this thread is now way beyond worth contributing to..

Take it easy good folks

angelfire9 · 26-04-2011 12:13pm

tayto lover wrote: »

AND he didn't even leave the "777" in his new name.
Another one sussed.

Dub777, molequidgallus, torrentgallus all the same person and SO easy to spot as well!
How many garda haters on boards get done for driving under the influence of cannabis after running an amber in Dublin city centre and then whinge about it in 3 different threads! :rolleyes:

Now where has offy gone? I wasn't finished with him

Bosco boy · 26-04-2011 12:19pm

Pixied wrote: »

God help us all. Of course if you've had a run in with the Gardai you're not going to want to see them paid properly!!

<And by the way, as far as i know, smoking a spliff is not the only way to take hash leading to driving under the influence of a drug>

Anyway, I'm off, this thread is now way beyond worth contributing to..

Take it easy good folks

Hang on there I'll be with you! I'm sick of it as well, good luck everyone especially those with pending court cases!

end a eknny · 26-04-2011 7:31pm

Bosco boy wrote: »

Hang on there I'll be with you! I'm sick of it as well, good luck everyone especially those with pending court cases!

of course only people with cases pending can see the gardai for what they are. the thing i would like to know from the gardai on line here. where they like that when they entered the force or is it some sort of conditioning that comes with the believe that you hold some sort of power over people. put simply is it just that this type of job attracts a certain type of person or do they change to fit in with the rest when they have the job

tayto lover · 26-04-2011 7:53pm

end a eknny wrote: »

of course only people with cases pending can see the gardai for what they are. the thing i would like to know from the gardai on line here. where they like that when they entered the force or is it some sort of conditioning that comes with the believe that you hold some sort of power over people. put simply is it just that this type of job attracts a certain type of person or do they change to fit in with the rest when they have the job

None of you gardai should answer this poster. He has an agenda which even i could see from a long way off. He is only using this forum to try and get even but everyone is on to him. He probably features numerous times on the Garda computer. I don't be far wrong.

end a eknny · 26-04-2011 10:13pm

tayto lover wrote: »

None of you gardai should answer this poster. He has an agenda which even i could see from a long way off. He is only using this forum to try and get even but everyone is on to him. He probably features numerous times on the Garda computer. I don't be far wrong.

what does " i dont be far wrong " mean. the only agenda i have is to see the gardai getting the pay they deserve after all we do pay their wages and dont think we are getting value for or money

tayto lover · 26-04-2011 10:14pm

end a eknny wrote: »

what does " i dont be far wrong " mean. the only agenda i have is to see the gardai getting the pay they deserve after all we do pay their wages and dont think we are getting value for or money

Whats this "we" business paleface?
Speak for yourself.

end a eknny · 26-04-2011 10:23pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Whats this "we" business paleface?
Speak for yourself.

whats with the racist comments and the "we" refers to the majority of tax payers

tayto lover · 26-04-2011 10:34pm

end a eknny wrote: »

whats with the racist comments and the "we" refers to the majority of tax payers

Have you done a poll of all Ireland' taxpayers as thats the only way you can claim to speak for the majority of taxpayers. You could have said many though.

Nothing racist at all as i'm only quoting an old t.v. advert as you probably knew anyway.
I think this thread is played out at this stage as there seems to be only the two of us left.
Draw ?

end a eknny · 26-04-2011 10:44pm

whats the ad for

tayto lover · 26-04-2011 10:48pm

end a eknny wrote: »

whats the ad for

I think it was for some alcoholic beverage. Not sure now as it was a long time age.
It was also used for a joke regarding Brian Cowan
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/analysis-overview/lise-hand-hostile-enemies-circle-for-lone-ranger-and-tontos-last-stand-2452037.html

Melanoma · 30-04-2013 7:18pm

The people arguing against garda pay are mostly just trawling for arguments.

There needs to be people that actually see both sides and come up with what is what.

jester77 · 30-04-2013 7:29pm

Melanoma wrote: »

The people arguing against garda pay are mostly just trawling for arguments.

There needs to be people that actually see both sides and come up with what is what.

It's been 2 years, must have surely paid those bills by now.

mikom · 30-04-2013 7:32pm

jester77 wrote: »

It's been 2 years, must have surely paid those bills by now.

The Old Bill?

Nabber · 30-04-2013 7:34pm

I know 2 Garda couples.

the 2 Garda couples own 3 properties. One ovesea and property in Dublin.

I also know people in the private sector who are the same.

When we are out and talk turns work/money/recession, both sides feel very hard done by. What people tend to forget is that public/private sector are all the same. Blind fools to the good fortunes they have.

I don't care what the AGS are paid, I wouldn't do their job, so I'm not going to say what i think they should be paid.

kerry4sam · 30-04-2013 7:59pm

end a eknny wrote: »

of course only people with cases pending can see the gardai for what they are. the thing i would like to know from the gardai on line here. where they like that when they entered the force or is it some sort of conditioning that comes with the believe that you hold some sort of power over people. put simply is it just that this type of job attracts a certain type of person or do they change to fit in with the rest when they have the job

tayto lover wrote: »

None of you gardai should answer this poster. He has an agenda which even i could see from a long way off. He is only using this forum to try and get even but everyone is on to him. He probably features numerous times on the Garda computer. I don't be far wrong.

I think that is an interesting question: Are Gardaí like that before spending time on the job or do they change their manner and way of thinking just to fit in and be part of the crowd and to not risk being ostracised or moving up the ranks?!

Nabber wrote: »

...

I don't care what the AGS are paid, I wouldn't do their job, so I'm not going to say what i think they should be paid.

I personally don't know of many people who are content with the current financial situation. I don't particularly care what any member of An Garda Síochána are paid either and no pay would be high enough to have me work in that environment 40hrs a week, every week, until I retire tbh!

I won't ever be applying for a full-time position within An Garda Síochána and don't ever want to be associated as being a full-time member of An Garda Síochána. It's not an environment that I would be happy working in on a full-time basis.

All the Best to those members reading in here who are struggling in any way, shape or form within the working envions of An Garda Siochána. Just know that you are not on your own

kerry4sam

Melanoma · 30-04-2013 9:56pm

jester77 wrote: »

It's been 2 years, must have surely paid those bills by now.

Thanks for pointing that out being current issue i did not think to check the date.

Pappa Charlie · 30-04-2013 10:03pm

Melanoma wrote: »

The people arguing against garda pay are mostly just trawling for arguments.

There needs to be people that actually see both sides and come up with what is what.

I'd say you care alright!

Pappa Charlie · 30-04-2013 10:06pm

kerry4sam wrote: »

I think that is an interesting question: Are Gardaí like that before spending time on the job or do they change their manner and way of thinking just to fit in and be part of the crowd and to not risk being ostracised or moving up the ranks?!

I personally don't know of many people who are content with the current financial situation. I don't particularly care what any member of An Garda Síochána are paid either and no pay would be high enough to have me work in that environment 40hrs a week, every week, until I retire tbh!

I won't ever be applying for a full-time position within An Garda Síochána and don't ever want to be associated as being a full-time member of An Garda Síochána. It's not an environment that I would be happy working in on a full-time basis.

All the Best to those members reading in here who are struggling in any way, shape or form within the working envions of An Garda Siochána. Just know that you are not on your own

kerry4sam

It's not for everyone!

davetherave · 30-04-2013 10:13pm

That is an "average" salary. If you have 3 bottom of the ladder bods on 22k and family income supplement, you just need one top brass bod to pull in 100k and suddenly bam, every guard is taking home 41k, quick get the pitchforks.

Melanoma · 30-04-2013 11:05pm

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

I'd say you care alright!

I'd say you are finding a way of saying something without being very clear.

Pappa Charlie · 30-04-2013 11:23pm

Melanoma wrote: »

I'd say you are finding a way of saying something without being very clear.

I'll get back to you in 2 years

Potential-Monke · 01-05-2013 1:27am

kerry4sam wrote: »

I think that is an interesting question: Are Gardaí like that before spending time on the job or do they change their manner and way of thinking just to fit in and be part of the crowd and to not risk being ostracised or moving up the ranks?!

Every job has those people who abuse their position in it. Some people join jobs with those manners, some get it from their colleagues, most are neither, but you never hear about them. It is unfortunate that due to our role and responsibilities that come with it, that those people are easier to pick out.

There are bullies and people with small man syndrome in every job.

kerry4sam wrote: »

All the Best to those members reading in here who are struggling in any way, shape or form within the working envions of An Garda Siochána. Just know that you are not on your own

kerry4sam

Thank you!

Gardaí struggling to pay bills - AGSI

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