Padraig Harrington.....2015 Honda Classic Champion

First Up · 14-10-2014 11:54am

charlieIRL wrote: »

Lets leave politics out of the golf forum lads.

I think those posts were intended as jokes.

charlieIRL · 14-10-2014 11:59am

First Up wrote: »

I think those posts were intended as jokes.

Maybe, but best nip it in the bud just in case.

gladrags · 15-10-2014 7:42pm

Tee time 11:40 for Padraig tomorrow.

19:40 GMT

Speak Now · 15-10-2014 7:47pm

gladrags wrote: »

Tee time 11:40 for Padraig tomorrow.

19:40 GMT

Is that 20:40 our time so? Might see some late coverage.

mrkiscool2 · 15-10-2014 7:54pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Is that 20:40 our time so? Might see some late coverage.

No we are GMT so 19:40 is when he starts. They mightn't cover him at all

First Up · 15-10-2014 8:01pm

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

No we are GMT so 19:40 is when he starts. They mightn't cover him at all

Are we not still on summer time? As in GMT+1?

gladrags · 15-10-2014 8:05pm

First Up wrote: »

Are we not still on summer time? As in GMT+1?

The time in Nevada now id 12:04

Not sure if there is another timeline.

mrkiscool2 · 15-10-2014 8:06pm

First Up wrote: »

Are we not still on summer time? As in GMT+1?

Vegas is currently 8 hours behind us so 11:40 over there is 19:40 over here

Speak Now · 15-10-2014 8:11pm

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Vegas is currently 8 hours behind us so 11:40 over there is 19:40 over here

Yeah I checked it is 19:40 our time. 18:40 GMT ;-)
He doesnt have a top draw, probably wont see him unless he goes low unfortunately.
Was it a sponsors invite he got into the field?
A few top 10s state side would do him the world of good.
Such a shame we wont see him in any of the final series events over here.

slave1 · 16-10-2014 9:54am

Perhaps it's been mentioned but I didn't notice, is Paddy on invites or is he using his one time exemption for 2015?

AGC · 16-10-2014 10:13am

slave1 wrote: »

Perhaps it's been mentioned but I didn't notice, is Paddy on invites or is he using his one time exemption for 2015?

Did he not say he would not be using that this season?

An event like that in Vegas would have no issue inviting a 3 time major winner and I wouldn't be surprised if he got in on last years rankings no matter how bad. It's not that strong a field.

mrkiscool2 · 16-10-2014 8:31pm

1 over after 3 holes. It's a low scoring field so anything under par during the two rounds should get him past the cut. Bad second shot on the 11th left him with a lot of work to do so he did well to only bogey.

Dero123 · 16-10-2014 9:35pm

I think his finish in the money list for 2014 gets him into certain lesser events, he is playing four of the next five weeks over there and planning on using the seven allowed sponsors invites spring time.

mrkiscool2 · 16-10-2014 9:36pm

Back-to-back birdies to put him -1 after 8. He's also got two of the hardest 3 holes down.

gladrags · 16-10-2014 9:37pm

Birdied 16&17

-1

abff · 16-10-2014 10:42pm

Just dropped a shot on 3 to go back to level par. Dropped from tied 41st to tied 77th!

cairny · 16-10-2014 11:10pm

Got it back with nice 12 footer.

abff · 16-10-2014 11:11pm

cairny wrote: »

Got it back with nice 12 footer.

Nice to see him getting a bit of coverage.

gladrags · 16-10-2014 11:13pm

abff wrote: »

Nice to see him getting a bit of coverage.

-1 ?

abff · 16-10-2014 11:19pm

gladrags wrote: »

-1 ?

Yes. Tied 46th with 4 holes to play.

gladrags · 16-10-2014 11:23pm

abff wrote: »

Yes. Tied 46th with 4 holes to play.

Good,the PGA site is slow to update.

Hopefully one or two more.

Thanks

mrkiscool2 · 16-10-2014 11:25pm

Yeah he has a chance to pick up a shot or two now. Decent par 4, tricky enough par 3 followed by a nice par 5. If he can make a par on the par 3 he should get a birdie on the last hole leave himself 2 under for the day

Ed Winchester · 17-10-2014 12:21am

Finished with a one under round of 70 for a tie for 54th.

gladrags · 17-10-2014 9:31am

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Finished with a one under round of 70 for a tie for 54th.

Early start today 11:50

Speak Now · 17-10-2014 9:45am

gladrags wrote: »

Early start today 11:50

14:50 our time.

gladrags · 17-10-2014 3:32pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

14:50 our time.

Was reading over "Journey to the Open" a few days ago.

Carnoustie 2007 blow by blow brought back vivid memories.

Round 2, Paddy is -1 after 2 .

abff · 17-10-2014 6:29pm

Birdie 2 at the 14th to get back to level par for the day. Currently on the cut mark at 1 under, but may need to get to 2 under to make the weekend.

charlieIRL · 17-10-2014 6:33pm

Is the pga app not working for anyone else? Mine still says he's on the 12th hole of his first round!!!

gladrags · 17-10-2014 6:39pm

charlieIRL wrote: »

Is the pga app not working for anyone else? Mine still says he's on the 12th hole of his first round!!!

I am using site,same problem he is level on 12.

markthespark77 · 17-10-2014 6:44pm

2 birdies in a row 2 under now, hopefully he'll make the cut

abff · 17-10-2014 7:15pm

Now 3 under with one to play.

markthespark77 · 17-10-2014 7:20pm

projected cut up to -2, hopefully a good last hole to get him to the weekend..

gladrags · 17-10-2014 7:28pm

abff wrote: »

Now 3 under with one to play.

How is it that the cut is -2,and the leader is -8?

abff · 17-10-2014 7:29pm

Finished -3 and should definitely make the weekend. Cut mark looks like being -2 or -3.

charlieIRL · 17-10-2014 7:30pm

gladrags wrote: »

How is it that the cut is -2,and the leader is -8?

As it is there are 71 players at -2 or better

abff · 17-10-2014 7:31pm

gladrags wrote: »

How is it that the cut is -2,and the leader is -8?

Lead is now -9 and the joint overnight leaders on -7 haven't started their second round.

gladrags · 17-10-2014 7:46pm

abff wrote: »

Now 3 under with one to play.

How is it that the cut is -2,and the leader is -8?

cairny · 17-10-2014 8:02pm

gladrags wrote: »

How is it that the cut is -2,and the leader is -8?

Are you referring to the 10 shot rule? If so it was scrapped some time ago.

gladrags · 17-10-2014 8:48pm

cairny wrote: »

Are you referring to the 10 shot rule? If so it was scrapped some time ago.

No

PH finished -3

The leader was -9

That is only 6 shot difference.

Thanks
I must be missing something.

Unless there is a small field numerically.

PARlance · 17-10-2014 8:58pm

gladrags wrote: »

No

PH finished -3

The leader was -9

That is only 6 shot difference.

Thanks
I must be missing something.

Unless there is a small field numerically.

Field is standard at 142 players.
There are 76 (T63rd and better) players at -2 or better.

First Up · 17-10-2014 9:17pm

gladrags wrote: »

No

PH finished -3

The leader was -9

That is only 6 shot difference.

Thanks
I must be missing something.

Unless there is a small field numerically.

Not sure what you are asking about. The 65 players (and ties) with the best scores make the cut. What the leader is at is irrelevant.

abff · 17-10-2014 9:24pm

First Up wrote: »

Not sure what you are asking about. The 65 players (and ties) with the best scores make the cut. What the leader is at is irrelevant.

In the PGA Tour it's top 70 and ties.

I think the point he's making is that the spread between the leader and the cut mark is a lot less than he would expect. I think 6 shots between first and last of those making the cut would be on the low side, but not without precedent. Anyway, it remains to be seen what the final spread will be.

gladrags · 17-10-2014 9:25pm

First Up wrote: »

Not sure what you are asking about. The 65 players (and ties) with the best scores make the cut. What the leader is at is irrelevant.

Ok

It may be that it is a small field.

Thanks

abff · 17-10-2014 9:32pm

gladrags wrote: »

Ok

It may be that it is a small field.

Thanks

You can get a large spread with a small field and a small spread with a large field. As someone pointed out a couple of posts ago, the filed for this event is not that small - it's 144 players, which is fairly standard for PGA Tour events.

First Up · 17-10-2014 9:34pm

gladrags wrote: »

Ok

It may be that it is a small field.

Thanks

Still don't get your point - or your question.

abff · 17-10-2014 10:12pm

OK, I'm not sure why I'm bothering to try to explain this as I'm not sure anyone is seriously interested in the answer, but here goes.

The more players in a filed, the greater the chance that there will be one or more outliers who shoot exceptionally low scores. There is also likely to be a greater number of players clustered around the mid point in the field, assuming scores are more or less normally distributed. As the half way cut tends to eliminate approximately 50% of the filed (based on a standard 144 or 156 man filed), it is likely that there will be a significant number of players clustered around the cut mark.

Statistically speaking, there is likely to be some correlation between the number of players and the spread between the halfway leader and the cut mark. But other factors also come into play, including the strength in depth of the field, how easy or difficult the course is playing and whether there is any great variation in the weather over the first two days. There is also a lot of randomness about whether one or more players will have an exceptional couple of days when almost everything seems to go right for them.

So, while it's reasonable to say that a smaller spread in scores might on average be expected if there is a smaller field, it is a bit of a leap to suggest that a relatively tight spread implies that there must be a small field.

EDIT: By the way, the leader is now on -10 and it's looking likely that the cut will remain at -2, so there is likely to be a spread of 8 shots (or more, as there are a number of -7s still having 9 or more holes to play).

First Up · 17-10-2014 10:28pm

OK, your initial posts suggested you were talking about how the cut was decided rather than how the scores were panning out.
Its a standard field so I guess its just an unusual scoring pattern.

abff · 18-10-2014 9:48am

79 players made the cut on -2 or better. Two tee start today with a third round cut. Harrington in the first group off from the 10th at 9:50 local time (17:50 BST).

REBELSAFC · 18-10-2014 9:51am

Back on topic it was a super closing few holes for Padraig. Birdies on 14,15 and 17 ensured he made the cut. And it could have been better--he only parred the par 5 16th, the easiest hole on the course

First Up · 18-10-2014 10:11am

REBELSAFC wrote: »

Back on topic it was a super closing few holes for Padraig. Birdies on 14,15 and 17 ensured he made the cut. And it could have been better--he only parred the par 5 16th, the easiest hole on the course

He'll need to make his putts today if he is to make it through to Sunday. Big ask.

Padraig Harrington.....2015 Honda Classic Champion

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