Driver Check - lets taxi users check their driver

ah here some details this industry app was started last year http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=22234.0

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail2013021200082

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/taxi-industry-portal/id590676209?mt=8
https://taxi.nationaltransport.ie/


i guess temporary changes account for some of the missing info, but still ?

this app is meant to reassure public but the minister goes then tells the public they don't have 30% of the info which just begs concern

do commerical taxi apps have api access to this nta database?

funny review on the taxi check app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.osds.cabs2

update on this app http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/taxi-driver-check/ use and cost by Mark Tighe and Stephen O'Brien 'Agency spends €434,000 on app to monitor taxis' http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1420066.ece

its not clear in the article but the cost includes the taxi industry portal app where taximen update their details https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.osds.cabs2.industry or they can use another company that delas with taxi men who prefer to use the phone the old way

may be part of or as follow on of this NTA awards €1.4m software deal to Open Sky Data http://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/item/28762-nta-awards-1-4m-software-d

the web version isn't working for me http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/check-if-a-taxi-driver-is-properly-licensed/ not everything has to be an 'app' hmm maybe becuase of complaints from drivers see here http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php/topic,23436.30.html

talking to taximen says the web version was taken down because as it wasn't connected to people phones they deemed it open to anonymous abuse of false reporting, of course we all know that the anonymity of the web is exaggerated, but maybe people could make false reports at web cafes and it would take longer to track down..., still not everyone has a smartphone, they could keep the check part and remove the report button and leave a phone number.

Taxi drivers say transport authorities put them at risk http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/taxi-drivers-say-transport-authorities-put-them-at-risk-1.1888404
Representatives claim release of home addresses leaves them open to violent attacks (and then gives examples that don't back up that point)

....you can get a taxi operators address with €25

is the listing of sole traders address so strange?


Section 38 of the Taxi Regulation Act
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/act/pub/0025/sec0038.html

this issue coming up in america http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/neil-mitchell-blog/taxi-register-confusion-clarified/20140723-3ceuo.html they suggest they but down their accountants address

expectationlost wrote: »

if you going to target a business person is it really going to taxi man? is there really a possibility they'd have that much money on them, all the attacks and robberies they suffered seem to be sponstaneous

After a weekend a taxi driver will have a few hundred euro cash to hand which can't be lodged into a bank until Monday at the earliest; longer if it's a holiday weekend. I know a driver friend who had a chancer try his house one night years ago assuming there was loose cash to be had. Granted it is a small risk that a gouger will use it to source larceny locations but it's one that is made a little easier through a state register that isn't really benefiting anybody by being there.

As a side note, the majority of hold ups tend to be planned and follow a set plan of action. Most astute drivers know what to look out for from the get go; some of the greener lads aren't as wise

Losty Dublin wrote: »

After a weekend a taxi driver will have a few hundred euro cash to hand which can't be lodged into a bank until Monday at the earliest; longer if it's a holiday weekend. I know a driver friend who had a chancer try his house one night years ago assuming there was loose cash to be had. Granted it is a small risk that a gouger will use it to source larceny locations but it's one that is made a little easier through a state register that isn't really benefiting anybody by being there.

how does he know he was targeted because he was taximan?

what 'gouger' is going go to the offices and pay 25 quid and get names and then rob those addresses???

and anybody who serious about robbing businessmen I've only read of them targetting people for 1000s if not 10,000s of Euros.

I think you can get the information from the council or gardai or perhaps the courts http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/act/pub/0025/sec0038.html

Losty Dublin wrote: »

a state register that isn't really benefiting anybody by being there.

Licensed businesses need addresses, thats the benefit.

As a side note, the majority of hold ups tend to be planned and follow a set plan of action. Most astute drivers know what to look out for from the get go; some of the greener lads aren't as wise [/QUOTE]

are these hold ups targetting specific taximen?

again there is no evidence that anybody has ever used this to rob taximen.

nature of the information contained on the online SPSV register maintained by the National Transport Authority https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2014-10-16a.632&s=tabular#g636.q where is it?

this http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/check-if-a-taxi-driver-is-properly-licensed/ what info does it show about a driver?

Spook_ie wrote: »

Name address etc. Sort of stuff that phishing emails start looking for identity theft

really did you enter a number, I've no number to check what information comes back

Spook_ie wrote: »

Whether it's FOI or license is there any circumstance that you can think of where the home address of a taxi driver would/should be required? I can't

you don't think business addresses should be available? even with a fee?

The Official MANUAL for Operating in the SPSV Industry page 8
http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Official-MANUAL-for-Operating-in-the-SPSV-Industry-4th-Edition.pdf

National SPSV registers (licence database)
Under Section 38 of the Taxi Regulation Act, the National Transport Authority is required to
maintain a national register of licences. There are currently three separate registers
– a register of licensed SPSVs, a register of licensed SPSV drivers, and a register of licensed dispatch
operators. The National Transport Authority makes these registers available to other agencies
to facilitate law enforcement and regulatory compliance as may be required.
As required by statute, a limited subset of licence record information is made available to the
public. This is known as the ‘public register’ or ‘online register’, as it is available on the
Authority’s website.

The registers include the following details:
The name and address of the licence holder;
The date on which the licence was granted;
Details of any suspension applying to a licence, including the period of the suspension, a
reference to the reason for the suspension, and particulars of all removals of such suspensions; and
Details of the revocation of a licence and the reasons for revocation.
In relation to vehicle licences, the registers include the following details:

The vehicle licence number;
The registration number of the licensed vehicle;
The category of SPSV to which the licence applies;
The name and SPSV driver licence number of the driver currently linked with the vehicle;
Details of any transfer of a taxi licence from one person to another; and
Details of any changes of vehicle associated with the licence.

In relation to SPSV driver licences, the registers include the following details:

The SPSV driver licence number; and
The county or counties for which the SPSV driver licence has been granted; and
Vehicle licence number and registration number of the vehicle with which the driver is currently linked;

In relation to dispatch operator licences, the registers include the following details:

Business name;
Opening hours;
Contact details and booking methods;
Number of vehicles in each SPSV category, owned and affiliated; and
Number of drivers
employed and affiliated.

Public (online) register
Some of the information in the registers must be made available to the general public from the National Transport Authority’s consumer-facing website,
www.transportforireland.ie. While the Authority will not publish on its website the address details of licence holders or details of
suspensions or revocations of licences or certain personal details about the licence holder, it is
obliged under Section 38 of the Taxi Regulation Act to supply details (including address details)
regarding any licence holder on receipt of a written request for a certificate of information. (Any
such request must be accompanied by the relevant fee.)

The abridged registers published on the Authority’s website include the following:

SPSV driver licence information
–
SPSV driver licence number, the holder’s name, licence
areas, licence status and licence expiry date;

Vehicle licence information
–
vehicle licence number, licence type, vehicle registration
number of the associated vehicle, the vehicle licence holder’s name, licence status and
licence expiry date;

Dispatch operator information
–
dispatch operator licence number, company name, contact
name, licence status and licence expiry date.

Spook_ie wrote: »

If the business is being run from there, as in having planning permission from the local council, maybe. But as it is my family home and the adress is there purely for correspondence from the NTA then no, not really.
As I've said if someone can give me a reason why someone would actually need my address rather than contacting the NTA or Garda with a complaint/query then maybe I'd agree in principle but I see no genuine reason why anyone needs my address to be available to them

and I can't think of a reason why a business would exist without a listed address

couldn't taxi drivers sent up a PO box as a business contact address.

Spook_ie wrote: »

Don't know, I don't think you can use. P.O Boxes because if the Gardai wish to trace your plate number. It comes down to, is there a reason that members of the public have a genuine need to access a taxi drivers home address, I can't see any reason why they would

I think theres many genuine reasons for people to be able to get the address, for a fee, of a licensed business operator.

Spook_ie wrote: »

Give me a genuine reason why you would be looking for a taxivdrivers home address?

because that is where they are likely to have their business registered to if they are a sole trader or even a small company.