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The New Garda Drink Driving Advert on RTE

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  • #102
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    At this point I'm of the opinion that anyone who drinks and drives and ends up killing themselves deserves it and have no sympathy at all.

    If you drink and drive and kill someone, you can rot in a 4x4 jail cell for the rest of your life.

    There is literally no excuse for it.

    After that I'd say the last thing you want them in is a 4x4 :eek:


  • #103
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    The last scene should have been his wife calling him a fùcking idiot and him shouting "fùck this I'm off to the pub....has anyone seen the car keys"


  • #104
    BeardySi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Heckler wrote: »
    The liver starts processing straight away. Its a misconception to start that clock from the moment you stop drinking. The clock actually starts from the minute you start drinking.

    Of course it does, but the advice is to count from the end of the session. I'd imagine it's to account for the fact that nobody keeps a record of what was drank and when and to include a big margin for error. It's a rule of thumb not an exact measure.

    And yup, am working on UK units. tbh I didn't realise there was a different system in use in Ireland.


  • #105
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Treadhead wrote: »
    Of course it does, but the advice is to count from the end of the session. I'd imagine it's to account for the fact that nobody keeps a record of what was drank and when and to include a big margin for error. It's a rule of thumb not an exact measure.

    I keep a record mentally, unless I'm going on an absolute bender with different drink types involved. It's not that hard, particularly when in rounds, to keep a tally of the number of pints you have had.

    I personally start counting from when I start drinking, then generally add on an hour at the end, just to be safe.


  • #106
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Treadhead wrote: »
    Of course it does, but the advice is to count from the end of the session..

    It makes no sense to count from the end of the session, you are adding hours to how long it takes you to get back under the limit and you also need to factor in that the limit is not zero so the first pint doesn't even count in the calculations.

    People have things for doing and places for going we don't all have the luxury to not drive the next morning after a being out. If you go out once a month maybe you can say "well I don't drive until the evening to be sure". But those of us who go out a few times a week can't be doing that.


  • #107
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,944 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Ad in the OP is very good and a lot more realistic I think than some of the previous ads we've seen.
    rubadub wrote: »
    There are a few ads about drunk walking on tv, perhaps if there were a few more you might not think it so stupid or unfair a question.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ImpGEKRfo


    This one always left me with mixed feelings TBH..

    While I of course feel for the woman for the loss of her son, it happened because he was drunk after a night with friends and swayed out into the path of a car.

    But what about the poor guy/woman in the car that hit him? What about the impact to their lives?

    2 victims here IMO.


  • #108
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Gerardo Mysterious Tourniquet wrote: »

    You must have a terrible tolerance for alcohol if 5 pints between 9 and 12pm would make you feel unfit to drive at 7. I wouldn't even feel that I'd been drinking never mind feel unfit to drive.

    I dont have a teribble tolerance, I simply know my limits, amd whilst that limit is certainly more than 5 pints, I wont be in a hurry to go anywhere first thing the next morning.

    It doesn't make me less of a person, if my body cant recover as quickly as others, and if I am not prepared to take a chance behind the wheel.


  • #109
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Gerardo Mysterious Tourniquet wrote: »
    You must have a terrible tolerance for alcohol if 5 pints between 9 and 12pm would make you feel unfit to drive at 7. I wouldn't even feel that I'd been drinking never mind feel unfit to drive.
    I reckon I would be as impaired after those 5 pints as after a single pint during the day -i.e. not very noticeable at all.

    If driving at 7am I am probably up at 6am and so not got a decent sleep either, as drinking impairs you sleep too so its not like you even had a proper 6 hours. Tired driving is recognised as being on a par with drink driving. So if the law says I am unfit to drive after 1 pint then the same should apply.


  • #110
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭cson


    If you were borderline would the time it takes to get from where you were stopped to the station & tested there make any difference I wonder? Isn't it the machine in the station that's the key to it?


  • #111
    [Deleted User]
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    cson wrote: »
    If you were borderline would the time it takes to get from where you were stopped to the station & tested there make any difference I wonder? Isn't it the machine in the station that's the key to it?

    Because the alcohol levels fluctuate, part of the offence is that the level of alcohol in the sample exceeds the prescribed amounts within 3 hours of driving ie. the test has to be administered in that time. This can result in cases being dismissed where the test falls outside that time, especially if they are providing a blood sample and the local doctor is busy with other patients, it's a remote station etc.


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  • #112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    cson wrote: »
    If you were borderline would the time it takes to get from where you were stopped to the station & tested there make any difference I wonder? Isn't it the machine in the station that's the key to it?

    It is common I would say especially if you are just over, I've seen it happen more than once on those shows following the police around. It always takes time between the road side test and getting to the station so this time could be vital.

    Also I think you can or certainly could request a blood test, this may also buy you extra time as the doctor has to be called and if you are lucky is busy.


  • #113
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    cson wrote: »
    If you were borderline would the time it takes to get from where you were stopped to the station & tested there make any difference I wonder? Isn't it the machine in the station that's the key to it?

    The machine at the station subtracts 17% from the reading before providing a result. So if you were truly borderline on the roadside you should pass in the station.


  • #114
    kala85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭kala85


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The machine at the station subtracts 17% from the reading before providing a result. So if you were truly borderline on the roadside you should pass in the station.

    How do you know this.


  • #115
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    kala85 wrote: »
    How do you know this.

    Common knowledge.


  • #116
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    Samaris wrote: »
    I'm not watching that, I still get traumatic flashbacks to the ones from the '90s. Those things needed a watershed.

    Yes. That one with the little girl ruined "what a wonderful world" for me. Can't listen to it at all since i had children. Shame cos it is a lovely song.


  • #117
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The machine at the station subtracts 17% from the reading before providing a result. So if you were truly borderline on the roadside you should pass in the station.

    Is this true?


  • #118
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    melissak wrote: »
    Is this true?
    well if it is it is most certainly not "common knowledge" so seeing as he is certainly bullshitting about that, he could be knowling lying about the original statement too.


  • #119
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    another powerful ad - but i gets me dizy watching it ...



  • #120
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    rubadub wrote: »
    well if it is it is most certainly not "common knowledge" so seeing as he is certainly bullshitting about that, he could be knowling lying about the original statement too.

    It was one of the first things challenged when the breath machines were brought out.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/intoxilyzer-drinkdrive-case-halted-for-high-court-ruling-26129750.html

    And yes, it is common knowledge to anyone who has been involved with a drink driving case.


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