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23-11-2014 10:54am#1For total clarity, the off-topic thread can be used for users of the Xbox forum to discuss mostly anything, in a not so detailed manner. What that means is if you want to comment on a football match here, go for it. But don't forget we have actual Football forums, so turning this thread into a 10 page debate about inter-team politics isn't idea & would be better suited elsewhere
So anything that regular users of this forum want to talk about, go for it. Threads like this have proven very successful & popular in other forums as it allows users who are used to interacting together, to talk about other subjects too, & so is good for the forum community.
Further, if there's no better suited thread for a post here, & it is Xbox related, that's fine too. The one year prizes MS are offering for example, seem to fit here better. As always, pm myself or FutureGuy is you don't understand or have any suggestions etc.
Feedback thread created, better to have the discussion in it's own thread at this point (!)1
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For total clarity, this off-topic thread can be used for users of the Xbox forum to discuss mostly anything, in a not so detailed manner. What that means is if you want to comment on a football match here, go for it. But don't forget we have actual Football forums, so turning this thread into a 10 page debate about inter-team politics isn't idea & would be better suited elsewhere So anything that regular users of this forum want to talk about, go for it. Threads like this have proven very successful & popular in other forums as it allows users who are used to interacting together, to talk about other subjects too, & so is good for the forum community.
Further, if there's no better suited thread for a post here, & it is Xbox related, that's fine too. The one year prizes MS are offering for example, seem to fit here better. As always, pm myself or FutureGuy is you don't understand or have any suggestions etc.
no offense intended and I know you're spending a lot of time separating all the posts out to individual threads. but can we not have a thread where anything and everything goes. the natural flow of discussion is being killed as the nature of conversation is meandering. the ps4 forum has a mega thread where everything can be discussed all in one spot. could we have something like that here?0 -
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Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »no offense intended and I know you're spending a lot of time separating all the posts out to individual threads. but can we not have a thread where anything and everything goes. the natural flow of discussion is being killed as the nature of conversation is meandering. the ps4 forum has a mega thread where everything can be discussed all in one spot. could we have something like that here?
couldn't agree more
this separate thread for everything, is killing any discussion and making this place inactive
Xbox One Mega thread polz 0 -
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Sure why don't we just close the forum & keep an Xbox megathread in the Games forum at that rate? A thread where anything & everything goes is fine if there aren't already threads set up for those topics. The flow of discussion doesn't need to be killed or diverted, just have that discussion in the right threads & there won't be an issue. The headset thread is a nice example of a thread staying on topic, while keeping discussion flowing.
Why the need to have everything stuck in one big disaster of a thread that tries to cover everything from bargains to nat issues? It's a total mess. Honestly, we've a full dedicated forum for a reason. I don't understand why, like in every other forum on boards, users can't post in the appropriate thread? Yes the PS4 forum has a megathread, but as can be seen in that forum, the users there know they have a full forum & use it as intended...all other threads are active & healthy. That's not what is happening here, we've a full forum Where the users seem to want to cram all aspects of discussion into one thread.
It's not a great way of making information easy to find, read, keep track of, & we end up with the same information being touted time & again because nobody has seen it's already posted. This notion of posting any query into the busiest thread just so that it gets a faster response is a problem. Doing that is not using the forum the correct way, & not giving other threads the traffic their due. I've no problem with a megathread, but not at the expense of a dedicated forum.
Make life easier for people who post once in the sub forum and never come back but stop discussions for members who are actively trying to chat with each other about anything and everything xbox related.
Theirs no flow in this sub forum, its constantly being broken up,
at the end of the day the forum will just go dead.
All were asking for is a megathread
sure keep all the other threads if it makes you happy we just want to chat about random xbox ****e to each other
I have to double check which thread I am in on this sub forum just to make sure I am talking about the topic incase I recieve an infraction for going off topic :pac:
Not to mention it would give you less work to do, you're constantly stressing about moving posts from one thread to another, make life easier for yourself. Its not messy it works, if questions are asked, we will answer them.
Does not matter how many threads their is, their will always be new members who still post in the most active thread or create a new one altogether to get their answer.0 -
2Mad2BeMad wrote: »Make life easier for people who post once in the sub forum and never come back but stop discussions for members who are actively trying to chat with each other about anything and everything xbox related.
It makes life easier for everyone, not just non regular users. This is observed all over boards, & can't be denied...it's what a forum is & why we have it.Theirs no flow in this sub forum, its constantly being broken up,
at the end of the day the forum will just go dead.
Flow from what to what? Bargains to NAT issues? That's not flow, it's a mess.All were asking for is a megathread
sure keep all the other threads if it makes you happy we just want to chat about random xbox ****e to each other
It's not what makes me happy, it's what's best for the forum & its users. One active thread with the same questions coming up time & again & no structure at all to it doesn't work, & will 100% make the forum go dead if left unchecked. I have zero issue with a megathread/general chat thread, just not at the expense of the rest of the forum. I'm open to suggestions about how we can have the best of both worlds...I have to double check which thread I am in on this sub forum just to make sure I am talking about the topic incase I recieve an infraction for going off topic :pac:
You must struggle all across boards then do you? Because that's how every other forum works. You don't post anything you want regardless of subject in any other forum because you can't be arsed using the right thread, so why do it here? Plus nobody has ever been infracted for doing this on this forum.Not to mention it would give you less work to do, you're constantly stressing about moving posts from one thread to another, make life easier for yourself. Its not messy it works, if questions are asked, we will answer them.
I don't mind work, but going around in circles I do mind. Users have been requested to just post in the right thread, surely that isn't too much to ask?Does not matter how many threads their is, their will always be new members who still post in the most active thread or create a new one altogether to get their answer.
Moving posts by new users who aren't familiar with a forum is an every day thing & not at all a problem. Doing it for regular members who, from what I'm reading, just can't be arsed using the proper threads, is a problem.
I hear what you're all saying, I really do. But a full forum just to house a general megathread isn't a model that works. I'm open to suggestions about how to have both a healthy forum where posts go in the right threads, & a megathread for general chat/info...ala the PS forum. What we have currently isn't working the same way, & is also a fairly new trend. A few months ago this wasn't an issue, so I'm confused why it is now.0 -
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I get the the moving of posts to the correct threads, and it was a big + in my book and made the forum easier to read imo but only if the relevant threads stayed on the 1st page so folks could see them and post to them. That said you need to PM some users some of the time to tell them discussions have been moved as on numerous occasions I've gone back to follow up on posts I've given advice to and had no idea which thread posts had been moved to.
closing the general discussion thread to have an off topic one was pointless imo as both seem to have the same discussion going on so a simple rename would have been best there.
I suggest an amnesty for not regular posters and the non movement of their posts / new threads from now until xmas to accommodate the usual influx of 'santy' questions perhaps ?
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Ok, I've had a good long think about things today & I think I see where you guys are coming from. When you talk about the flow of discussion being stopped, previously I didn't understand what you were talking about. I think now, I do. When you talk about the flow of discussion being stopped, are you referring to say a topic that comes up in the general chat thread, which gets discussed, someone then makes a point about a different aspect, & the conversation moves towards that point, then another, then another etc? I'd then arrive to the thread later on in the day & see posts about various different subjects & move them all accordingly which results in the killing of the conversation as you describe it.
Guys, it's a very valid observation if this is what you're getting at. From my perspective, as I touched on above, I'd arrive to the thread much later than the posts were made & see things going from one topic to the next, & think to myself "we have a thread for this", "we have a thread for that" etc, "why aren't users just having this conversation in the right thread?". Also, similar to my own perspective in that regard, is the perspective of a new user, who arrives to the forum & see's this lack of structure & could potentially put people off posting.
So what can we do about it? First off, we'll begin by reinstating the general chat thread (rapturous applause). I think I see now why you all want it back, whereas I didn't previously. Well, that's not exactly correct, I did see it's value, I just blamed it for the fractured nature of the conversation. So we'll bring it back to be the central hub again. However, is there any way we can have a conceited effort from the regulars here to try use the other threads where suitable? Those threads shouldn't be viewed as any 'less important', than a general thread, & if used as they should be, can be every bit as active as a megathread.
Having several popular threads being used correctly helps the forum to grow, & avoid stagnation and falling into disarray. The likes of bargain alerts, & gaming discussion should be easily posted about in their respective threads. So what do you say guys, can you work with me on this?
It's actually quite interesting if you take a step back and look at it. I think that this generation of consoles has less true exclusives than any previously, and that means that most dedicated threads about games should really end up in the main games forum. That's what I've seen so far, and it's reflected in the fact that the Xbox forum has been a little quiet (IMO) in comparison.
A lot of the issues with the general thread were people who had just bought an Xbox One, and were now running into problems, meaning they'd come in and just post without regard to the thread. Now that the thread is gone, perhaps we should build an FAQ style thread, and sticky that. I think that a thread like that would catch a lot of the people asking the same questions over and over. (I'd be happy help out with a thread like that)
As to the mods shutting the regional discussion thread, there was a warning in there, near the start. It's also in keeping with what boards do on anything even nearing illegality (they're kept on their toes because of the Sean Sherlock debacle). Fair enough about the lack of clarity regarding discussion of the topic though, I'd suggest holding off on any discussion until they've cleared it up.
So very accurate & astute observations there, & I really like the sound of a catch all FAQ thread. Definitely I'd like to see something like that implemented, it could even replace our 'useful links' sticky by assimilating the info within. We can organise such a thread here in this one, so by all means, lets hear some ideas & everyone is welcome to pitch in
Regards the marketplace regional discussion thread, I thought the closing post in that thread explained our position sufficiently, perhaps not though. The thread is temporarily locked while we (the Cmods) seek clarification on the nature of the discussion and whether it's to be allowed or not. This clarification can only come from above, & there are many factors to consider, such as the relationship with our policy on Netflix, then to consider are we setting precedent for other forums etc. As it stands, Sony et all aren't putting much in the way of users buying from other markets, so it would seem they currently don't have an issue with it. MS on the other hand, seem to be clamping down, signifying a change in perception of the whole thing. The discussion is on going, & I will, by all means, update everyone when I have something to update them with 0 -
I get the the moving of posts to the correct threads, and it was a big + in my book and made the forum easier to read imo but only if the relevant threads stayed on the 1st page so folks could see them and post to them. That said you need to PM some users some of the time to tell them discussions have been moved as on numerous occasions I've gone back to follow up on posts I've given advice to and had no idea which thread posts had been moved to.
closing the general discussion thread to have an off topic one was pointless imo as both seem to have the same discussion going on so a simple rename would have been best there.
I suggest an amnesty for not regular posters and the non movement of their posts / new threads from now until xmas to accommodate the usual influx of 'santy' questions perhaps ?
Sorry Calex I forgot to multiquote this. Yes, agreed there on the above. In terms of pm'ing users about where posts had been moved to, it's good in theory but putting it into practice tended to be quite time consuming, as often there would be several users (sometimes loads) who's posts I'd need to move, & pm'ing everyone soon became a problem. What I figured was a better approach, was to move the posts, & then bump the thread with an advisory note in it which links to where the posts had been moved to. Not ideal, but a good compromise.
Good point about the influx of Santy related posts, that's business as usual for around this time of year. Newer, less familiar users never bothered me though. That's normal in terms of forum grounds keeping, it's when a culture sets in & even the regulars begin to develop a cycle of perpetuation by using one thread & one thread only, that was a bigger issue.0 -
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So very accurate & astute observations there, & I really like the sound of a catch all FAQ thread. Definitely I'd like to see something like that implemented, it could even replace our 'useful links' sticky by assimilating the info within. We can organise such a thread here in this one, so by all means, lets hear some ideas & everyone is welcome to pitch in
Sounds great. I'll start throwing some stuff together tomorrow.
Thanks for taking the time to think about all this, by the way, I think that we all want a healthy forum for Xbox stuff, so hopefully this all helps out.0 -
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Sorry Calex I forgot to multiquote this. Yes, agreed there on the above. In terms of pm'ing users about where posts had been moved to, it's good in theory but putting it into practice tended to be quite time consuming, as often there would be several users (sometimes loads) who's posts I'd need to move, & pm'ing everyone soon became a problem. What I figured was a better approach, was to move the posts, & then bump the thread with an advisory note in it which links to where the posts had been moved to. Not ideal, but a good compromise.
Good point about the influx of Santy related posts, that's business as usual for around this time of year. Newer, less familiar users never bothered me though. That's normal in terms of forum grounds keeping, it's when a culture sets in & even the regulars begin to develop a cycle of perpetuation by using one thread & one thread only, that was a bigger issue.
Yeah I had that as an after thought later on yesterday, I'm used to moving 1 or max 2 posts 0 -
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