The largest ethnic cleansing in 60+ years in taking place today in Iraq

Tony EH · 08-08-2014 3:27pm

Rightwing wrote: »

They all knew it. Why did Bush senior not topple Hussein ?

Because he gave them a reason to be in the region for future resource wars.

Tony EH · 08-08-2014 3:32pm

dav3 wrote: »

Seeing as though Iraq is in a worse state than before the US and it's "allies" invaded. The very least the US should be doing is sorting out the mess they created.

Oh, they will, don't worry.

As soon as that lovely (now privatised) oil gets even remotely threatened, they'll be back over, quick as a flash.

MadYaker · 08-08-2014 3:36pm

The yanks are getting stuck in again, worked out well last time :rolleyes:

They really shouldn't have wthdrawn troops when they did a few years back. Hopefully lessons can be learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and future American leaders will be less eager to get involved in other countries affairs.

Mr.Micro · 08-08-2014 3:41pm

MadYaker wrote: »

The yanks are getting stuck in again, worked out well last time :rolleyes:

They really shouldn't have wthdrawn troops when they did a few years back. Hopefully lessons can be learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and future American leaders will be less eager to get involved in other countries affairs.

Think of all that rebuilding......again. What's thousands of lives compared to profit and turnover for the US corporations. It's just collateral damage. Bring back Blair and Bush, they would love to do it all again..

PLUG71 · 08-08-2014 3:46pm

Forget it being about peoples live's, it's all about the oil!!

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 3:48pm

leBIT wrote: »

h ttp://fitmisc.com/forum/showthread.php/76329-Breaking-News-US-begins-bombing-ISIS-with-first-strike-on-Islamists-artillery-already-confirmed

h ttp://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/iraq-options/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The difference between Irish forums and American…

90% Of Irish posters-won't no one think of the terrorists…

90% of American posters-bomb them all to hell, let god sort them out…

:pac:

bumper234 · 08-08-2014 3:49pm

mad muffin wrote: »

The difference between Irish forums and American…

90% Of Irish posters-won't no one think of the CHILDREN…

90% of American posters-bomb them all to hell, let god sort them out…

:pac:

FYP.

comongethappy · 08-08-2014 3:50pm

PLUG71 wrote: »

Forget it being about peoples live's, it's all about the oil!!

Proof?

What oil benefit (contracts, pricing etc) is there from parachuting boxes of water to people trapped & terrified on a scorching mountainside?

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 3:51pm

bumper234 wrote: »

FYP.

I reject your reality and substitute it with my own…

leBIT · 08-08-2014 3:54pm

mad muffin wrote: »

The difference between Irish forums and American…

90% Of Irish posters-won't no one think of the terrorists…

90% of American posters-bomb them all to hell, let god sort them out…

:pac:

Murica

PLUG71 · 08-08-2014 3:54pm

comongethappy wrote: »

Proof?

What oil benefit (contracts, pricing etc) is there from parachuting boxes of water to people trapped & terrified on a scorching mountainside?

I'm talking about the bombing of ISIS!!

bumper234 · 08-08-2014 3:55pm

mad muffin wrote: »

I reject your reality and substitute it with my own…

I don't recall anyone in the thread saying "Oh the poor terrorists But i do recall plenty of people sickened by the deaths of hundreds of innocent children, or are you claiming that Hamas recruits 2 year old babies to do their dirty work for them therefore making them legitimate targets?

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 3:58pm

bumper234 wrote: »

I don't recall anyone in the thread saying "Oh the poor terrorists But i do recall plenty of people sickened by the deaths of hundreds of innocent children, or are you claiming that Hamas recruits 2 year old babies to do their dirty work for them therefore making them legitimate targets?

I'm not privy to Hamas's HR recruitments…

wes · 08-08-2014 3:59pm

mad muffin wrote: »

The difference between Irish forums and American…

90% Of Irish posters-won't no one think of the terrorists…

90% of American posters-bomb them all to hell, let god sort them out…

:pac:

Its amazing that some posters are still using the plight of innocent Iraqi's to have a go at what some other posters said in another thread. FFS, this kind of carry on, just makes you look someone taking petty potshots after losing an argument. Its neither clever nor funny.

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 3:59pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

ISIS are a great bunch of lads when it comes to rousting out near-defenceless civilians, somehow I think they might balk at attacking one of the best equipped armies on Earth, who have a reputation for not exactly holding back...

I'd like to see them try, the only time I would support the Israelis.

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 4:03pm

wes wrote: »

Its amazing that some posters are still using the plight of innocent Iraqi's to have a go at what some other posters said in another thread. FFS, this kind of carry on, just makes you look someone taking petty potshots after losing an argument. Its neither clever nor funny.

I was just making an observation after reading the American forum. Am I not allowed?

comongethappy · 08-08-2014 4:05pm

PLUG71 wrote: »

I'm talking about the bombing of ISIS!!

The query still stands.... Proof?

So the US drops 2 bombs on an ISIS artillery position that was shelling Kurdish peshmerga.

You say this is for oil.

Stopping the slaughter of 40,000+ christians is nowhere in their mind.

I'm just asking what proof you have?

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:06pm

Everlong1 wrote: »

Shame on you ! What about your oppressed Northern Nationalist fellow countrymen/women ! Oh hang on, they're alright now, aren't they?

Big difference, how can you equate the two?

wes · 08-08-2014 4:07pm

mad muffin wrote: »

I was just making an observation after reading the American forum. Am I not allowed?

If you want to use the plight of Iraqi's to have a go at other posters. You know what, go ahead. All your doing is making yourself look petty.

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 4:08pm

wes wrote: »

If you want to use the plight of Iraqi's to have a go at other posters. You know what, go ahead. All your doing is making yourself look petty.

Me thinks you protest to much…

I Heart Internet · 08-08-2014 4:09pm

Good mapping in this report:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11018298/Islamic-State-pulls-down-church-crosses-in-northern-Iraq-as-200000-flee.html

also:

“This is a humanitarian disaster. The churches are occupied, their crosses
were taken down,” said Sako. He added that up to 1,500 manuscripts were burnt.

The United Nations put the number of people who have fled as high as 200,000,

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:10pm

bumper234 wrote: »

Nuanced look is fine but when you look at the hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by British and American troops plus the thousands killed by Israel. I don't think your ISIS or AQ figures would come even close.

So ISIS are the good guys then?

PLUG71 · 08-08-2014 4:11pm

comongethappy wrote: »

The query still stands.... Proof?

So the US drops 2 bombs on an ISIS artillery position that was shelling Kurdish peshmerga.

You say this is for oil.

Stopping the slaughter of 40,000+ christians is nowhere in their mind.

I'm just asking what proof you have?

Ok I see your point I do not have proof.

Its common opinion isnt it?

Can you provide proof that their actions are not oil related?

FTA69 · 08-08-2014 4:12pm

Jamsiek wrote: »

So ISIS are the good guys then?

No, they're all c*nts. Why people feel the need to boil situations down to "cops v robbers" levels of morality is beyond me.

bumper234 · 08-08-2014 4:12pm

Jamsiek wrote: »

So ISIS are the good guys then?

Where did i say isis are in any way shape or form "the good guys"?

Awkward Badger · 08-08-2014 4:12pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Me thinks you protest to much…

Me thinks you trolls too much.

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:13pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I find myself too often wondering what is the point in the UN? Ethnic cleansing across Africa, Palestine and Iraq and nothing being done. Did nothing to secure the plane crash in Ukraine. Veto power for the two biggest warmongers and one of the worst countries for human rights.

I agree, they should scrap the UN and replace it with a more democratic organization. The veto powers are unjust and stifle the the UN

humanji · 08-08-2014 4:13pm

This thread is not about Hamas, Israel or Gaze. There's a separate thread for that. I don't want to have to thread ban people for not being able tot tell the difference.

comongethappy · 08-08-2014 4:15pm

PLUG71 wrote: »

Ok I see your point I do not have proof.

Its common opinion isnt it?

Can you provide proof that their actions are not oil related?

Can't prove a negative friend.
Try it.... It ain't easy

And a commonly held opinion is not the same as fact, no matter how cynical you might be.

If a few air sorties help push ISIS back & literally save the necks of tens of thousands of Christians, then good.

Nodin · 08-08-2014 4:16pm

FTA69 wrote: »

No, they're all c*nts. Why people feel the need to boil situations down to "cops v robbers" levels of morality is beyond me.

Indeed. There are no saints, only sinners.

I heard of this incident as the video was circulated purporting to show muslims killing a woman, however this wasn't the case
http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/05/08/the-horrific-stoning-death-of-a-yazidi-girl/

The above is no more excuse to persute the Yazidi than ISIS are to persecute the muslim population.

PLUG71 · 08-08-2014 4:18pm

comongethappy wrote: »

Can't prove a negative friend.
Try it.... It ain't easy

And a commonly held opinion is not the same as fact, no matter how cynical you might be.

If a few air sorties help push ISIS back & literally save the necks of tens of thousands of Christians, then good.

Cant argue with there if thats their intention!

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:18pm

end of the road wrote: »

it does cut it because its true

How?

Moneymaker · 08-08-2014 4:20pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

I am Irish and therefore the only thing I care about is the Palestinians

I don't know what I like more, this post or your user name.

Well played sir.

08-08-2014 4:21pm

Where's ISIS's funding coming from?

wes · 08-08-2014 4:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Where's ISIS's funding coming from?

I know they got a lot of money from Iraqi banks that they robbed after they pushed back the Iraqi army. The weapons are weapons abandoned by the Iraqi army, which mean they have modern hi-tech weaponry at there disposal.

08-08-2014 4:24pm

wes wrote: »

I know they got a lot of money from Iraqi banks that they robbed after they pushed back the Iraqi army. The weapons are weapons abandoned by the Iraqi army, which mean they have modern hi-tech weaponry at there disposal.

It was more of a rhetorical question but I don't think that's where they're getting their funding. :P

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:24pm

FTA69 wrote: »

LorMal wrote: »

Wartard nonsense. Death and destruction should never be cheered.

The death and destruction of ISIS should be cheered though.
Unfortunately innocent civilians are always caught in the middle.

Harry Palmr · 08-08-2014 4:28pm

Hopefully they'll be bombed back to the 7th century....oh wait.

comongethappy · 08-08-2014 4:30pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It was more of a rhetorical question but I don't think that's where they're getting their funding. :P

They have looted a huge amount of Iraqi kit.

Money is from Saudi Arabia & Qatar I think

ScumLord · 08-08-2014 4:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Where's ISIS's funding coming from?

I think they have a big pile of cocaine.

08-08-2014 4:34pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I think they have a big pile of cocaine.

I've not finished the season, they got Pam some help in the end then?

Jamsiek · 08-08-2014 4:36pm

bumper234 wrote: »

Where did i say isis are in any way shape or form "the good guys"?

Ok I admit I misread your post

ScumLord · 08-08-2014 4:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I've not finished the season, they got Pam some help in the end then?

I don't think she needed any help getting through the cocaine.

08-08-2014 4:38pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't think she needed any help getting through the cocaine.

So where are they getting their money? Malory must have another idea up her sleeve.

Cantremember · 08-08-2014 4:38pm

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Thanks. I was born in Ireland, however, to Irish parents. Themselves of Irish descent. That's as far back as I know. You're doing ..... Ok on the usage of English yourself.

Lmao. You referred to Iraqi Christians integrating in a second. Perhaps you can't remember. Or more likely you prefer not to admit the exaggeration and silliness of your post because of an ideological stance. That's the problem with buying into that sort of thinking: you end up making ridiculous statements with no foundation in reality to advance your ideology and end losing credibility. The plus side is that open minded people see through your statements to the poverty of your ideology itself. Best of luck promoting utopia.

mad muffin · 08-08-2014 4:40pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I think they have a big pile of cocaine.

I hear they have a guy called Hussanberg making some primo blue meth.

DeadHand · 08-08-2014 4:42pm

Agree fully with calls to arm and support the Peshamerga. Perhaps the only truly moderate and moral (insofar as any force can be moral) force in the region. They have provided shelter and protection to all sects and ethnicities and locked down their regions against the barbarism happening in the rest of Iraq.

ISIS is one of the most malevolent movements to emerge in modern history. Come on, when you're so crazy Al-Queda won't get in bed with you and, more shocking still, you force the US and Iran to fully agree on something it's saying a lot.

The good news is: ISIS won't last. Not surrounded as they are on all sides by powerful forces intent on their eventual destruction (Iran, Turkey, The Kurds, USA, Assad's Syria, Israel and the remnant of the Iraqi government and army). As well as this, they will be vulnerable to internal strife as they contain a large element of Saddam's Baathist old guard who will happily put a knife in their back as soon as the opportunity arises. Let's hope they are unable to subject the Iraqi people to much more medival brutality before this inevitable collapse happens.

One positive that may arise from the catastrophic nightmare that is the Middle East at the moment is a recognised state for the Kurds at last. Christ knows they deserve it.

Cantremember · 08-08-2014 4:45pm

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

We should give them refugee status.

We shouldn't. Reasons previously outlined.

bumper234 · 08-08-2014 4:52pm

Jamsiek wrote: »

Ok I admit I misread your post

Happens to us all

wendell borton · 08-08-2014 5:20pm

We had a program for Vietnamese refugees in the 70's that was very successful, don't see why we can't do It again.
If the Iraqi minorities move across the border to the neighboring countries they will face the same discrimination. They'll habe no rights and no chance of getting citizenship.

The largest ethnic cleansing in 60+ years in taking place today in Iraq

Comments