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Irish Rugby and Sevens

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Ireland beat Cyprus 45-0 in quarters. They play Romania in semi final with Sweden and Ukraine in the other semi final


  • Registered Users Posts: 525 ✭✭✭guapos


    Ireland 24 Romania 0

    Ireland Ukraine in the final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Won final 52-0.
    We're in grand prix series next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Won final 52-0.
    We're in grand prix series next year.

    That's great! Next step world series?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    That's great! Next step world series?
    World Series and promotion to it is usually decided in a qualifying event held during the Hong Kong 7s. We'd have to enter and win that qualifier to get to world series


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Ireland Men's 7s Squad - Exeter Super Sevens Series
    Ireland won the last stage of the series in Coventry and can claim the overall series this Sunday

    David Busby - QUB/Ulster
    Jordan Conroy - Tullamore RFC
    Colm Hogan - Dublin University FC
    Conor Kelly - QUB/Ulster
    Shane Layden - Buccaneers RFC
    Harry McNulty - UCD
    Luke O'Dea - unaffiliated
    John O'Donnell - unaffiliated
    Mark Roche - Lansdowne FC
    Josh Rowland - unaffiliated
    Nick Timoney - QUB/Ulster
    Alex Wootton - Garryowen FC/Munster

    Ireland Men's Sevens Squad Fixtures - Exeter Sevens, University Ground, Topsham Road
    Sunday 10th July 2016
    Ireland 7s v Forces Exiles - 10.00am
    Ireland 7s v Marauders - 12.20pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Womens side play 2nd round of grand prix series in a few weeks time.
    The first round was in June and Ireland finished 4th

    An Irish under 18s side is also scheduled to take part in a European competition on Saturday fortnight. We are in the same pool as Romania, Israel and Moldova. The other pools are France, Russia, Poland, Spain and Portugal, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    IRELAND UNDER-18 GIRLS SEVENS Squad (2016 Rugby Europe Under-18 Women's Sevens Championship, Vichy, France, September 10-11):
    Anna McGann (Buccaneers RFC/Connacht), Brittany Hogan (Ballynahinch RFC/Ulster), Claire Boles (Enniskillen RFC/Ulster), Eimear Corri (Portlaoise RFC/Leinster), Ellie Rix (Enniskillen RFC/Ulster), Emily Lane (Mallow RFC/Munster), Enya Breen (Bantry Bay RFC/Munster), Kathy Baker (King's Hospital/Leinster), Katie Heffernan (Mullingar RFC/Leinster), Ruby Keating (The High School/Leinster), Sabrina Kennedy (Cill Dara RFC/Leinster), Stephanie Nunan (St. Mary's RFC, Limerick/Munster)

    IRELAND U-18 GIRLS - POOL C FIXTURES:
    Saturday, September 10 -
    Ireland U-18 Girls v Russia, Ireland U-18 Girls v USA, Ireland U-18 Girls v Germany,
    Sunday, September 11 - Play-Offs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    An Interpro 7's Blitz was played in the Aviva on Sunday last to help pick squad for boys squad to compete in European tournament in Romania next weekend


  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Quintis


    Just out of curiosity, what is the aim/target/goal of the mens and womens 7's teams now post Olympics, is there a longer term plan in place?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Quintis wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, what is the aim/target/goal of the mens and womens 7's teams now post Olympics, is there a longer term plan in place?
    Womens team have competed before on the world series. They were relegated following last years series.
    Mens team won division A of the European series. Having won divisions C and B in 2015. They will now compete in the 3 round grand prix series in 2017.

    Both sides targets and goals will be making and staying in the World Series as that provides regular high level games and if we were to stay in the series long enough possibly hosting a leg of the world series in the Aviva but that's unlikely IMO as World Rugby will probably prefer newer/bigger markets than Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Girls 7s team playing in European championships this weekend
    Ireland 24 Russia 12, Ireland 5 USA 33, Germany 5 Ireland 36
    Cup 1/4s Spain 22 Ireland 10. Plate 1/2s Italy 17 Ireland 12
    Play Wales in 7/8 playoff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Ireland Women's Sevens squad compete in the second leg of the Rugby Europe Sevens Grand Prix in Malemort, France this weekend.

    A Baxter (Cooke RFC/Ulster); C Blackmore (St. Mary's College RFC/Munster); K Fitzhenry (Blackrock College RFC/Leinster); K Flood (Railway Union/Leinster); S Flood (Railway Union/Leinster); K Heffernan (Mullingar RFC/Leinster)*; C Keohane (UL Bohemians/Munster); L Mulhall (Rathdrum/Leinster) (capt.); A Murphy-Crowe (Railway Union/Munster); A O'Flynn (Talent ID); H Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster); M Williams (St. Mary's College RFC).

    Rugby Europe Women's Sevens Grand Prix, Malemort, France (24th/25th Sept)
    Day 1
    Ireland v Italy – 10.22am (Irish time)
    Ireland v Belgium – 1.07pm (Irish time)
    Ireland v GB Lions – 4.52pm 3.52pm (Irish time)

    Day 2
    Play-Offs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Shane Daly, Ned Hodson, Greg O'Shea and Steven McMahon all part of Irish squad prepping to take part in the Dubai 7s
    Mens side will be competing in the International Invitational competition
    Pool A
    SA 7s Academy, Hundested Spurs, Germany Development
    Pool B
    Ireland, Tribe, Poland
    Pool C
    France Development, Zambia, Belgium
    Pool D
    Titans, Les Bleus Sevens, The Royals, Georgia

    Womens team will be competing in the world series event in Dubai. They are not a core team on the world series for 16-17 but will compete in some tournaments
    In Dubai Ireland are in the same pool as New Zealand, Fiji and France


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭RuPi


    Two camps last week alongside training with Wales 7's in Wales, another camp this weekend in Dublin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭brockboy02


    RuPi wrote: »
    Two camps last week alongside training with Wales 7's in Wales, another camp this weekend in Dublin.

    and absolutely no coverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Murray Kinsella mentioned that Fionn Carr will be involved with the Irish 7s side - he was great at that Limerick 7s in Thomond year or two ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Braken


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Murray Kinsella mentioned that Fionn Carr will be involved with the Irish 7s side - he was great at that Limerick 7s in Thomond year or two ago
    He has the pace required alright,but and it's a big BUT his defence is not good enough for top class7s...


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭RuPi


    I believe a camp this Wednesday and Thursday in preparation for Dubai next week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭brockboy02


    Fionn Carr should be nowhere near the team... give it to young lads either from the academy or AIL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Fionn Carr should be nowhere near the team... give it to young lads either from the academy or AIL

    Why?

    The best thing they can do with this 7s team is push it's standards as far as possible using everything they can. The higher the standard in camp the better the developmental tool it will be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Fionn Carr should be nowhere near the team... give it to young lads either from the academy or AIL
    Why? It should be the best team picked and if Carr is better than alternatives why shouldn't he be involved


  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Braken


    brockboy02 wrote: »
    Fionn Carr should be nowhere near the team... give it to young lads either from the academy or AIL
    Carr is playing AIL with Naas,but there better in the league if the looked harder,speed is the main criteria in Ireland,while internationally defence is king,if the first tackle is missed its all over...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Braken wrote: »
    Carr is playing AIL with Naas,but there better in the league if the looked harder,speed is the main criteria in Ireland,while internationally defence is king,if the first tackle is missed its all over...
    Its not at all speed being the main criteria here from what ive heard of set up and they have been looking in leagues but players have to want to be involved. There was open sessions....
    Who are those better in the league that should be involved IYO?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    David Busby (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    Fionn Carr (Naas)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Shane Daly (Cork Constitution/Munster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
    Conor Lowndes (Galwegians/Connacht)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Jimmy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
    Luke O'Dea (Shannon)
    John O'Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Nick Timoney (Queen's University/Ulster)
    Steve Toal-Lennon (St. Mary's College)

    Dubai Sevens Men's International Invitational on December 2-3.
    Friday, December 2 -
    Pool B:
    Ireland v Germany Development, 2pm local time/10am Irish time
    Ireland v Zambia 7s, 4.20pm local time/12.20pm Irish time
    Ireland v Georgia 7s, 6.20pm local time/2.20pm Irish time

    Saturday, December 3 -
    Play-Offs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Womens side lost 27-5 to New Zealand, 24-14 to France in world series.

    Womens development side lost to Belgium 22-0, beat Poland 28–12 and lost 22-7 to the Tribe 7s and play Kenya next


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Womens team went onto draw with Fiji yesterday 17-17 in final group game before beating USA 28-5 in challenge trophy(9-12th place) semi and beat Spain in the final 14-12

    Womens development team lost to Kenya 20-12 in final game yesterday and have lost all games played today so far losing to Samurai 24-17 in cup quarter final and to Tuks Ladies 7s 17-0 in Challenge Trophy semi final

    Mens team competing in the mens invitational beat the German Development team 19-5, beat Zambia 33-5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Mens team won their third game of the day beating Georgia 21-14

    They play Hundested Spurs in Cup quarter final tomorrow

    Women's Side beat Spain 14-12 to claim the Challenge Trophy, finishing 9th overall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Mens team beat Hundsted Spurs 22-19 in quarters but lost in semis 22-20 to the English Development team. They had been 19-5 down at half time and English side only won with a penalty in last kick of the game
    They will play Tribe 7s in the 3rd/4th play off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Mens team lost to Tribe 7s 33-28.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Draw for round 1 of the european grand prix series has been made for mens and womens teams.
    For the first round of mens competition which is on in Russia on June 4th/5th we are in group A with Germany, Goergia and Wales. Group B is Italy, Poland, Russia and Spain and Group C is England, France, Belgium and Portugal.

    For round 1 of womens series which is on in France on June 18th/19th
    Ireland are in group C with England, Italy and Portugal.
    Group A is Holland, Poland, Russia and Spain while Group B is France, Belgium, Wales and Sweden


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭sjwpjw


    I think sevens is a fantastic sport in its own right.

    I would be very interested in knowing when the schools underage competitions are on. I am only aware of one in Ulster at Campbell in late March which is u15 and u18. Campbell always run it very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    sjwpjw wrote: »
    I think sevens is a fantastic sport in its own right.

    I would be very interested in knowing when the schools underage competitions are on. I am only aware of one in Ulster at Campbell in late March which is u15 and u18. Campbell always run it very well.
    There isn't always one in each province and they are almost always treated in a development sense rather than fully competitive.

    There has 7s competitions ran at u15/17 levels in some seasons but theyre not an annual occurance. 7s competitions are good chances for smaller/"non-traditional" schools to compete and beat bigger/"more traditional" schools as has been the case when some 7s competitions have been held in Munster and schools like Nenagh CBS/Waterpark College have been the winners ahead of the usual suspects...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    The Irish Rugby Football Union has announced the hosting of the inaugural IRFU Rugby Sevens Festival which take place in early April at Terenure College RFC, Dublin .

    The festival will comprise of three different Rugby Sevens tournaments, held on separate days from Wednesday April 5th through to Friday April 7th.
    This is the first festival of its kind to be run by the IRFU and with teams from all over Ireland to participate, it promises to be an enthusiastic and sizeable inaugural tournament.

    Colleges, u19 male and female competitions and girl u15 competition.
    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/39099


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Good to see this pilot scheme run by Leinster Rugby and the IRFU to introduce 7's Rugby to schools. With this in mind Transition Year students were picked for training with their school team. This opportunity was open to players from all sports.
    School teams from each of the counties attended a blitz in their counties in March and players were selected from there to attend training in the run up to the blitz in Donnybrook today.
    Todays blitz was attended by Counties - Louth, Meath, Fingal and schools - Wesley Collage, Castleknock and high school.
    County sides played each other and the school sides played each other and then they played 1 of the sides in the other competition depending on how they did in phase 1


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    Good to see this pilot scheme run by Leinster Rugby and the IRFU to introduce 7's Rugby to schools. With this in mind Transition Year students were picked for training with their school team. This opportunity was open to players from all sports.
    School teams from each of the counties attended a blitz in their counties in March and players were selected from there to attend training in the run up to the blitz in Donnybrook today.
    Todays blitz was attended by Counties - Louth, Meath, Fingal and schools - Wesley Collage, Castleknock and high school.
    County sides played each other and the school sides played each other and then they played 1 of the sides in the other competition depending on how they did in phase 1

    I seem to remember you a while back suggesting that Ireland should not invest any money or pursue mens 7's or domestic 7's and pump all the money into tag? Has your view changed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    I seem to remember you a while back suggesting that Ireland should not invest any money or pursue mens 7's or domestic 7's and pump all the money into tag? Has your view changed?
    Yes in some extent but tag needs to be used much more than it is. I didnt want 7s if money was diverted from tag which clearly has much greater ability to expand and widen the playing base and develop the sport better at grass roots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭sjwpjw


    I was at the schools event at Terenure today.  Disappointing turnout with some schools pulling out last minute etc but the kids who were there really enjoyed it.  Lovely trophy etc.
    u15 girls' tournament tomorrow apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    sjwpjw wrote:
    I was at the schools event at Terenure today. Disappointing turnout with some schools pulling out last minute etc but the kids who were there really enjoyed it. Lovely trophy etc. u15 girls' tournament tomorrow apparently.
    How many competed in the end?
    Shame no regular competitions in 7s and shame some pulled out especially considering it's so near Easter.
    Yeah girls u15 tomorrow to end the festival.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭sjwpjw


    King's Hospital.  Dalriada.  Wilson's Hospital.  Newbridge.  Garbally.  Ballyclare High.  Plus 8 u19 girls' teams.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    World Series qualifiers were played at the weekend. Spain won mens competition so will be on world series next year

    The 12-team qualifier involved Chile, Germany, Guyana, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Namibia, Papua New Guinea, Spain, Sri Lanka, Tonga, Uganda and Uruguay.

    San Francisco’s scenic AT&T Park will host the Rugby World Cup Sevens from July 20 to 22 in 2018. The mens tournament will comprise of 24 teams while the womens tournament will be made up of 18 teams.
    We should certainly make both competitions.

    Womens team are 9th of the 11 teams after 3 of the 6 rounds of this seasons world series.
    As mentioned in post #182 we play in european grand series in June. This is level below world series and we would need to do well in that to get up to playing in world series qualifying competition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    IRFU Director of Sevens Rugby, Anthony Eddy and Coach Stan McDowell have confirmed an extended Men’s 7s squad who will be training during May
    and will compete in the Rugby Europe Grand Prix next month.

    They will be looking to claim a place at the Hong Kong 7s Repechage next year, where the winner of that tournament will qualify for the World Rugby Sevens World Series for the 2018/19 season. They can achieve this by finishing as one of the top two placed sides (outside of those who are not already a core team on the series) over the course of the Grand Prix.

    The second big opportunity is qualification for the Sevens Rugby World Cup in San Francisco next summer.

    The Rugby Europe Grand Prix offers two places to nations outside of those who are already pre-qualified from the 2013 Moscow World Cup or via this season’s World Series.
    The European sides who have already qualified are England, Wales and France, while Scotland look set to gain a spot via this season’s World Series.

    Ireland Men’s 7s Squad
    David Busby (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    Fionn Carr (Naas)
    Will Connors (UCD/Leinster)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    Shane Daly (Cork Con/Munster)
    Billy Dardis (UCD)
    Evan Dixon (Dublin University)
    Ian Fitzpatrick (Lansdowne/Leinster)
    Ned Hodson (Cork Con/Munster)
    Foster Horan (Lansdowne)
    Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)
    Conor Kelly (Queens University/Ulster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary’s/Leinster)
    Shane Layden (Buccaneers)
    Adam Leavy (Galwegians/Connacht)
    Conor Lowndes (Galwegians/Connacht)
    Mick McGrath (Clontarf)
    Steve McMahon (Garryowen/Munster)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Bryan Mollen (Dublin University)
    Jimmy O’Brien (UCD/Leinster)
    John O’Donnell (Lansdowne)
    James O’Donovan (Trinity)
    Edward O’Keeffe (Galwegians)
    Greg O’Shea (Shannon/Munster)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Josh Rowland (Galwegians)
    Tom Stapley (Ballynahinch)
    Nick Timoney (Queens University/Ulster)
    Steve Toal-Lennon (Exile)

    Rugby Europe Grand Prix:

    May 3rd /4th – Moscow
    June 10/11th – Lodz
    July 1st/2nd – St. Etienne
    July 15th/16th – Exeter

    http://munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/con-duo-selected-for-7s-training-squad/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Dublin 7s festival held in Old Belvedere over the weekend.
    Had been in Donnybrook last year, was at it, but crowds werent that great so it moved to Belvedere

    Irish Wolfhounds national side won the elite competition beating an Irish Qualified side in the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    I played in the open 7s section. We threw together a Clontarf team, J3/4/5 sorta level, most of us hadn't played 7s before and we only got a couple of training sessions in, when we got down we weren't sure what the level would be like but we found out there was another team from the club and Matt D'Arcy was playing for them... So that gave us an idea what to expect... Big gulf there :D Great craic tho, will defo play more over the summer, teaches you a lot about passing under pressure, defence and footwork. As a back it's great fun when you have ball in hand, not so much when you're defending..

    Great festival, didn't get to go to the one last year, didn't expect much but it was a great craic, some party afterwards too, very much a social event where the beer'ing was far more important than the sport. I will definitely be doing the one next year.

    Got to watch some of the elite level and women's 7s during breaks between games. The womens 7s was great, have to say the Welsh 1 really impressed me, Jasmin Joyce, she was class, plays for the GB 7s team too, seemed to be a class above everyone else on the pitch. Mick McGrath was class for the Wolfhounds as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    .ak wrote: »
    I played in the open 7s section. We threw together a Clontarf team, J3/4/5 sorta level, most of us hadn't played 7s before and we only got a couple of training sessions in, when we got down we weren't sure what the level would be like but we found out there was another team from the club and Matt D'Arcy was playing for them... So that gave us an idea what to expect... Big gulf there :D Great craic tho, will defo play more over the summer, teaches you a lot about passing under pressure, defence and footwork. As a back it's great fun when you have ball in hand, not so much when you're defending..

    Great festival, didn't get to go to the one last year, didn't expect much but it was a great craic, some party afterwards too, very much a social event where the beer'ing was far more important than the sport. I will definitely be doing the one next year.

    Got to watch some of the elite level and women's 7s during breaks between games. The womens 7s was great, have to say the Welsh 1 really impressed me, Jasmin Joyce, she was class, plays for the GB 7s team too, seemed to be a class above everyone else on the pitch. Mick McGrath was class for the Wolfhounds as well.
    Yeah standard was high last year as well in clubs. Mainly AIL/J1 players.
    Really hope it kicks on. Perhaps Belvedere suits it better but would be great down the line if it expanded so needed to be played in Donnybrook again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Yeah standard was high last year as well in clubs. Mainly AIL/J1 players.
    Really hope it kicks on. Perhaps Belvedere suits it better but would be great down the line if it expanded so needed to be played in Donnybrook again.

    Yeah, we were defo out of our depth but it was good fun all the same, got to throw the ball around with some AIL players and for the most part held our own until we'd start leaking tries in the 2nd halves. Last game came went 5-5 until the last few min and we leaked a couple of tries.

    It'd be nicer if it was graded a bit better, but considering we only made up the team a week before the festival I'd say they were too tight on numbers to actually grade teams.

    Yeah the Belvo gang put on a great day I have to say and the club made the ideal space for a festival. Loads of room for the big stage, beer tents, food stalls, and the party area around the club house itself.

    The fact it was mixed with the tag festival that's on there at this time of year really helped as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    .ak wrote: »
    Yeah, we were defo out of our depth but it was good fun all the same, got to throw the ball around with some AIL players and for the most part held our own until we'd start leaking tries in the 2nd halves. Last game came went 5-5 until the last few min and we leaked a couple of tries.

    It'd be nicer if it was graded a bit better, but considering we only made up the team a week before the festival I'd say they were too tight on numbers to actually grade teams.

    Yeah the Belvo gang put on a great day I have to say and the club made the ideal space for a festival. Loads of room for the big stage, beer tents, food stalls, and the party area around the club house itself.

    The fact it was mixed with the tag festival that's on there at this time of year really helped as well.
    To be fair the 7s is marketed as an open 7s so will generally get the top sides, AIL/j1+2 players but as you say unless you get enough sides competing then it cant be graded. Donnybrook is rather tight on space but worked well. With the stage in bective end car park and just a players/vip area at back of bective club house. Mixing it with the tag festival will have helped with more people around all day


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 511 ✭✭✭RichieRich89


    .ak wrote: »
    I played in the open 7s section. We threw together a Clontarf team, J3/4/5 sorta level, most of us hadn't played 7s before and we only got a couple of training sessions in, when we got down we weren't sure what the level would be like but we found out there was another team from the club and Matt D'Arcy was playing for them... So that gave us an idea what to expect... Big gulf there :D Great craic tho, will defo play more over the summer, teaches you a lot about passing under pressure, defence and footwork. As a back it's great fun when you have ball in hand, not so much when you're defending..

    Great festival, didn't get to go to the one last year, didn't expect much but it was a great craic, some party afterwards too, very much a social event where the beer'ing was far more important than the sport. I will definitely be doing the one next year.

    Got to watch some of the elite level and women's 7s during breaks between games. The womens 7s was great, have to say the Welsh 1 really impressed me, Jasmin Joyce, she was class, plays for the GB 7s team too, seemed to be a class above everyone else on the pitch. Mick McGrath was class for the Wolfhounds as well.

    Some people seem dubious, or even outright dismissive, about the idea that playing 7s can aid your development as a 15s player. From your experience, you think it could help make provincial players better running rugby players in 15s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I think 7s would be a great thing to introduce to schools. With a lot less players needed than a full 15s squad, less technical when it comes to rucks and scrums in particular so it allows kids to get an idea of playing 15s without having to worry a lot about the rules as such. Obviously it still needs a good bit of training when it comes to tackling, but I think it's probably a better step forward than tag to introducing them to rugby.

    As for the idea of it making players better running rugby players, it definitely encourages them to exploit open spaces and attack the line with ball in hand. I suppose one of the arguments would be that it's completely different in a 15s game as a lot of that space is gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    _Tyrrell_ wrote: »
    I think 7s would be a great thing to introduce to schools. With a lot less players needed than a full 15s squad, less technical when it comes to rucks and scrums in particular so it allows kids to get an idea of playing 15s without having to worry a lot about the rules as such. Obviously it still needs a good bit of training when it comes to tackling, but I think it's probably a better step forward than tag to introducing them to rugby.

    As for the idea of it making players better running rugby players, it definitely encourages them to exploit open spaces and attack the line with ball in hand. I suppose one of the arguments would be that it's completely different in a 15s game as a lot of that space is gone.
    Tag can do it and is easier to introduce kids to game and thats why its used more. 7s needs quite a good skillset for it to be really useful and that will not be there with beginners.
    There's very good reason why tag is used to introduce kids to the game so much by the development officers.
    You need to work a lot with kids beginning to play the game on the tackle and if you get the aspects around tag going then introducing the tackle is easier.
    Tag also very much encourages players to exploit open spaces and attack the line with ball in hand


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