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Emergency help in Ireland

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  • #52
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    gctest50 wrote: »
    somethings causing the "excess" f*ckups and deaths :

    Where are you getting those figures from?


  • #53
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    http://stateclaims.ie/


  • #54
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Emergency care is simple. If you're an emergency case you get treated asap. If not you wait. Just because someone arrives into hospital in an ambulance doesn't mean it's an emergency.

    Errors during triage will occur. Some will have to wait longer than they should, others will be seen too quickly. Every effort should be made to keep such errors to the practical minimum.

    Contrary to popular misconception the health system is not shtye. It has problems that shouldn't exist. It's still by most fair metrics a good system.


  • #55
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    gctest50 wrote: »
    http://stateclaims.ie/

    not helpful in this context, impossible to find anything ED related on that link

    Can you post any link that shows people are compensated due to poor ED care?


  • #56
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Stheno wrote: »
    ...Can you post any link that shows people are compensated due to poor ED care?

    i'll have a look around for bulk data

    This case came on for Trial in March 2009 and went on for hearing for a total of 8 days on the issue of damages before the case ultimately settled for a sum of €6.5 million and costs. Three weeks before the Trial the Defendants had finally admitted negligence and liability to compensate the Plaintiff. Unfortunately, even after liability had been admitted a major dispute continued on the issue of the cost of future care for the Plaintiff. The origin of the Plaintiff’s injuries was that she attended the A&E Department of the hospital complaining of severe blinding headache and weakness on one side of her face, difficulty speaking. Unfortunately, the Plaintiff was misdiagnosed as suffering from a migraine attack (she had never had a migraine attack in her life and she was now in her mid forties). The Plaintiff was in fact suffering from a sub acranoid haemorrhage caused by a middle cerebral artery aneurysm which was rupturing. She was wrongly discharged from hospital without the benefit of a CAT scan investigation and given strong pain relief.


    http://www.aclsolicitors.ie/news-events/current-news/medical-negligence-group-cases-20082009/


  • #57
    SpaceTime
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    gctest50 wrote: »
    somethings causing the "excess" f*ckups and deaths :

    That wouldn't be out of line with most places in the developed world and the costs involved in Irish legal actions are vast compared to most of Europe. They're more like the United States.

    Medicine isn't maths or aviation - things can and do and always will go wrong. You're talking about dealing with highly complex, somewhat unpredictable biological systems, not machines.

    The treatment two of my relatives have had on the public system here was and is excellent.
    One relative getting a level of cancer care that she absolutely wouldn't have in the NHS as they simply would have said she was too old for fancy new biological therapies that have given her an extra 10 years we reckon and very few side effects. They also repaired her spine against all the odds.

    Another relative had a baby in CUH and the service was excellent and highly progressive - very family centric even facilitated the dad staying right next to her for 3 days and nights. Very high tech, modern facility and tons of aftercare from the community nurse.


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