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Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]

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  • #2652
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Very spoilery:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72001


  • #2653
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Again, kinda spoilery

    http://www.theforce.net/photo.asp?image=http://www.theforce.net/2015/newluke.jpg

    Looks like a shot taken on skellig michael


  • #2654
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    py2006 wrote: »
    Very spoilery:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72001

    It's a trap!!


  • #2655
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    py2006 wrote: »
    Again, kinda spoilery

    http://www.theforce.net/photo.asp?image=http://www.theforce.net/2015/newluke.jpg

    Looks like a shot taken on skellig michael
    He looks way better aged than Solo does.


  • #2656
    geecee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭geecee


    py2006 wrote: »
    Very spoilery:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72001

    Domhnall Gleeson looks a lot like a
    Tarkin in that screen grab


  • #2657
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    The spoilers are becoming to tempting now, I think it might be time to bail...:o


  • #2658
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Very tempting to click and see what Domhnaill Gleeson's doing!


  • #2659
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Very tempting to click and see what Domhnaill Gleeson's doing!

    To be fair, he's doing nothing. None of the pics posting so far tell us anything. I think we've become highly sensitised to what is perceived as spoiler information. But ultimately if someone wants to be spoiler free (and this is not directed at anyone at all!), then reading threads about the upcoming movie is not the place to be! :)


  • #2660
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Rather cool morphing pic of Ford's ageing on the Vanity Fair cover.


  • #2661
    thorbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    py2006 wrote: »
    Very spoilery:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72001

    I dont understand how this is spoilery?? And I hate spoilers


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  • #2662
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    thorbarry wrote: »
    I dont understand how this is spoilery?? And I hate spoilers

    Some people don't wish to see costumes, characters actors play etc before release.


  • #2663
    thorbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    py2006 wrote: »
    Some people don't wish to see costumes, characters actors play etc before release.

    Jaysis, must be very hard to get to release day without seeing characters in costumes !! Sure they'd be all over bus stops and ads online


  • #2664
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    thorbarry wrote: »
    Jaysis, must be very hard to get to release day without seeing characters in costumes !! Sure they'd be all over bus stops and ads online

    Ah yea, well in so far as is possible I meant to say.


  • #2665
    xper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭xper


    py2006 wrote: »
    Rather cool morphing pic of Ford's ageing on the Vanity Fair cover.
    1977 Han looks a bit like James Woods in that. And Chewy's definitely had 'work' done! :P


  • #2666
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Something dawned on me today that makes me feel that these new sequels will probably do even more than the prequels did to highlight the Jedi are a bunch of incompetent, snake oil selling charlatans.

    In the prequels they speak of the prophecy and how Vadar will bring balance to the force.

    We saw how useless a force the Jedi were

    The prophecy comes true anyway. Vadar has a son who acts as a catalyst for Vadar killing the Emperor in the OT.

    Happy days.

    But now in the new movies there is obviously going to be some new upset or threat coming from the Darkside. If the rumours about Skywalker are true, and it certainly looks that way, well I don't need to say more than that.

    So in conclusion, the prequels and the non OT sequels will serve the theory even further that the Jedi are the most useless people in the history of anything.

    :mad:

    *sells all my Star Wars memorabilia*


  • #2667
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Well wasn't that the whole thing, that the Jedi weren't really the protectors of the realm they thought they were, they didn't really go into in depth but the fact there were so many jedi in the prequels kinda meant that the balance wasn't there, and they were complacent, ideals lost etc.

    Also you should totally sell all your SW memorabilia if you can't spell Vader correctly!

    nerd.png


  • #2668
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    .ak wrote: »
    Well wasn't that the whole thing, that the Jedi weren't really the protectors of the realm they thought they were,

    In the Prequels, sure, but who cares, Never Happened.


  • #2669
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Is there a seperate thread for Star Wars ; Rogue One?

    seen a few bits n pieces about it and it almost seems a lot more exciting than Force Awakens


  • #2670
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    There's one here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=95477133


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  • #2671
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    thank you


  • #2672
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Some interesting news about the lead-up comic to the film, called Shattered Empire, which is released in September. It all sounds quite similar to Zahn's Heir to the Empire...the Empire wasn't finished after the demise of the second Death Star, internal struggles, etc. At least there's no mention of taxes and trade federations!

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Star-Wars-Connect-Return-Jedi-Force-Awakens-72370.html

    Good news round-up here also

    http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/456257-star-wars-news-roundup-for-july-2-2015


  • #2673
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    When news broke that the old cast were returning I mentioned to friends and on here that I thought that
    Han Solo would die or be killed off because of Fords reluctance to discuss star wars over the years and that he felt the character should have been killed off in the original trilogy.

    Now it would appear that the above opinion (of not only mine) is starting to move to rumour to almost leak.


  • #2674
    veganrun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭veganrun


    No new trailer until the autumn and no clips or anything expected at Comic Con.

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0707/713119-star-wars/


  • #2675
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Han Solo spin-off film confirmed...

    http://www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film


  • #2676
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    thegreengoblin wrote: »
    Han Solo spin-off film confirmed...

    http://www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film

    I dont like the idea of these spin offs. It feels like it cheapens Star Wars somehow. Is the further trilogy not enough? Its gonna make a **** ton of money.


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  • #2677
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    I dont like the idea of these spin offs. It feels like it cheapens Star Wars somehow. Is the further trilogy not enough? Its gonna make a **** ton of money.

    Heaven forbid that someone would sully the name of Star Wars with spin offs. They'll be selling Star Wars merchandise next. But seriously, they've got Miller and Lord doing this. The masters of making good movies from terrible ideas.


  • #2678
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Well I for one thought the Lego film was ****. I dont know what else they have done but it irks me.


  • #2679
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Well I for one thought the Lego film was ****.

    What the hell is wrong with you dude


  • #2680
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Oafley Jones wrote:
    Heaven forbid that someone would sully the name of Star Wars with spin offs. They'll be selling Star Wars merchandise next. But seriously, they've got Miller and Lord doing this. The masters of making good movies from terrible ideas.


    I really hope there's a scene where young Han goes into Jaba's office and Jaba says "ok Han we're going to try you on you first solo [PUN] run with you as the main guy. People have worked with you on a team before and they seemed to really like you even though you just made wise cracks and were a bit of dick, so here's a **** load of money to go smuggle goods in a fun, exciting way that definitely won't turn us into enemies. Oh and don't run into the empire [winks]"

    I actually really like Lord and Miller but I'd prefer see them do something more original.


  • #2681
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,554 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Well I for one thought the Lego film was ****. I dont know what else they have done but it irks me.
    Synode wrote: »
    What the hell is wrong with you dude

    I guess he just doesn't know that everything is cool when you're part of a team.

    :(


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  • #2682
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Hmm, my fear is it's gonna be a bit too slapstick with them. But I'm cool with as much Star Wars media as they can throw at us. Some of it will stink, but some of it will hopefully be great.


  • #2683
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    .ak wrote: »
    Hmm, my fear is it's gonna be a bit too slapstick with them. But I'm cool with as much Star Wars media as they can throw at us. Some of it will stink, but some of it will hopefully be great.

    But wouldn't you prefer waiting a little longer and getting nothing but awesome?


  • #2684
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    robdonn wrote: »
    But wouldn't you prefer waiting a little longer and getting nothing but awesome?

    That'll never happen. One must remember the commercial identity of Star Wars... it's a product designed to make money. Disney aren't about making an oscar winning piece of stunning cinema and art. They want to sell. Now that doesn't translate into making garbage, I have faith some of the product they'll dish out will be really good, the Force Awakens and Rogue 1 already sound like they're going to be really sound products... But after that there's plenty of scope of being average or kiddish and just something to pull in the cash.

    Rebels is a brilliant example - awful TV show, but the kids will love it and it'll sell toys and merch. However, the first series of Clone Wars was fantastic. It's just the way of the SW product; some of it will be top notch, some of it will be garbage, you'll never have it all the way you like or think it should be, especially as they target different demographics.


  • #2685
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    .ak wrote: »
    Now that doesn't translate into making garbage

    Have you ever seen a Transformers movie? :P

    But I do agree about how the quality will effect the targeting of different demographics. When Phantom came out I was 12 and loved it, but as I grew older with each prequel release I just started to hate it.

    But the problem is that this didn't happen with the original trilogy, they stand up to watching 40 years later (Ewoks withstanding). They have a quality that transcends demographics, whether intentional or not, and this is something that has been lacking from anything Star Wars since.

    People always throw out the line that Star Wars is a kids' movie, but it's not. It is neither a kids' or adults' movie, it told an epic adult story that kids could enjoy.


  • #2686
    doubledown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭doubledown


    Just watch this. We are in very good hands.

    Official release of the SDCC2015 behind the scenes reel...

    http://youtu.be/CTNJ51ghzdY


  • #2687
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear




    Comic con panel.

    It looks this all comes naturally to Boyega.

    He's gone from being a bit of a nobody with some credit for a few small performances to effortlessly dealing with the wailing hordes of SW fans.


  • #2688
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,271 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    doubledown wrote: »
    Just watch this. We are in very good hands.

    Official release of the SDCC2015 behind the scenes reel...

    http://youtu.be/CTNJ51ghzdY

    They must be commended for going for real sets and animatronics instead of the cgi rubbish used in the last 3 films.
    It looks excellent.


  • #2689
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    doubledown wrote: »
    Just watch this. We are in very good hands.

    Official release of the SDCC2015 behind the scenes reel...

    http://youtu.be/CTNJ51ghzdY

    I know they're aiming at the "we hate the prequels because of the cgi" crowd but I can't help but feel if they keep even just a small bit of their "promises" it's going to be spectacular. I actually felt a bit emotional watching that! I think there is a certain truth that Star Wars has a part in everyone's history for better or worse, and perhaps trying to narrow in on that will make it a commercial success instead of just trying to be bigger and better (ie where they failed with the prequels)..

    I'm very excited.


  • #2690
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,816 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Who needs CGI!

    The most frustrating thing is that there is a good and important story to be told in the prequels and I just wish we could pretend the prequels were never made and then have them remade! Even Revenge of the Sith which I personally liked was spoiled by CGI, notably the light sabre battle between Anakin and Obi Wan on Mustafar where you literally had no idea what was going on at times. In saying that it worked well for the fight between Yoda and Sidious which I thought was spectacular so it does have its place.


  • #2691
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    One of the things that I love about the Behind The Scenes video is a clip where it apparently shows them using the same face-tracking techniques that they would normally use to animate a CGI characters face, but instead using it to animate an animatronic face. So cool, I've never seen it being used like that before.

    They're still going to have CGI characters, like the Lupita Nyong'o character, but it'll be nice to see a good mixture of techniques. Bringing it back to the good old days of Jurassic Park.


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  • #2692
    Antar Bolaeisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Must not get excited, must not get excited...


  • #2693
    pinksoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭pinksoir


    Yup. Got pretty emotional watching that. Love seeing animatronics and proper set design.


  • #2694
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Yeah, I do find myself really trying not to get hyped up for this, yet every little morsel of info or footage amps up the excitement just another notch. The Behind-the-Scenes footage didn't help, it brought a boyish smile to my face to see all the props, sets and puppets being wheeled out. There is definitely something weirdly ... compelling about the Star Wars universe on film, it's easy enough to understand why it speaks to so many people so deeply. It has an oddly mythological energy to it that other franchises don't seem to possess.


  • #2695
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I'm just hopeful that as cinema has evolved and so with it cinema goers, these films can make an attempt to do some clever story telling and expand a bit on what is some incredible things in the universe.

    Re-watching the six films recently became evident how "dumb" they were, in a sense that everything was put in front of you, and in your face. When I re-watch the six, I find the most compelling part of the story how the prophecy was interpreted originally, to how it actually played out. Obviously only achieved after they did the prequels.

    The games and some books have gone into the universe in an incredible way and for me brought out stories much more interesting and compelling then the films. I'm worried it will be a very dumbed down to take in the kids, which is fair enough I know why Disney bought it, but there is such a great opportunity to have a complex film in that universe and I always fear I'll only see it through the games.

    Like you just "take for granted" from the first three films that the Empire is a bad thing, and the rebels are a good thing. And its made out very "good vs bad". There was a genuine chance to question the Jedi and their place in the republic, only for a terrible actor and script to completely ham it up.

    Have to say not as overly hyped for this as I thought I would, probably because the more I watch Star Wars, the less favourible I see them. I'll go see this no doubt, and really hope that it delivers, but right now other stuff has me more hyped then this, which technically should be impossible for me.


  • #2696
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Ah but that's the beauty of it, it's supposed to more akin to fantasy than it is sci-fi; the knights, the evil lords, the good vs bad, black vs white... That's what makes SW so special. It's when you start complicating it (midichlorians), that's when it loses it's speciality.

    I hope they keep it simple. Disney are know how to tell a simple story well. I'm not too worried. I just hope they keep things a bit moody.


  • #2697
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    I watched the ComicCon panel discussion there via Youtube (https://youtu.be/xzhcC4BbFuI and https://youtu.be/paCXKQN_TRU), they didn't give anything away really (Except for Domhnall Gleeson :D He was Funny.) but they did mention 'The Story' a good few times.....> It's all about the story.

    JJ and Lawrence Kasdan talked a bit about their process for writing, Harrison Ford talked about his reading of the script and how he thought it was a great story.

    They made all the right noises for me.


  • #2698
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    I'd love to get a private screening of this or a showing for just decent honest SW fans.

    My last few cinema experiences have been ruined by teens/early 20s talking, messing, texting with no regard for those who want to sit down and enjoy the movie.


  • #2699
    Icepick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    C9D79A07-CB17-4D3B-97BF-9E2E655C7AC3.png


  • #2700
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    py2006 wrote: »
    I'd love to get a private screening of this or a showing for just decent honest SW fans.

    My last few cinema experiences have been ruined by teens/early 20s talking, messing, texting with no regard for those who want to sit down and enjoy the movie.

    Maybe someone with some cinema friends could arrange a boards screening. :P


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  • #2701
    tony stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭tony stark


    Good aul Gleeson Jnr referring to himself as British-"I'm British so I'm the bad guy". Ewwwhhh hopefully Chewie rips his arms off in the first scene!!!!!


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