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Zulu wrote:DesF it's fu(kin afterhours on a friday for christ sake
and your wreckin me buzz man.
Ok question to the mods (other then giblet) why was this sticked. do ye actually know? well except for its comedic value. That said we have managed to get nearly 100 posts without someone going " ya think theres a drought on hash well you haven't seen the drought on yer man" or something equally stupid that doesn't make sense.
Or maybe stoners don't make yur ma jokes, hmmmmmm ponder???
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Hmm, good enough point I suppose, but then again, everyone knows what I am talking about.Hellm0 wrote:That is nonsense. Pure, unadulterated nonsense. You make no distinction between people who use THEIR OWN DRUGS and people who BUY DRUGS.
In case of any further cannabis addled confusion, when I say drug USERS, I am meaning people who purchase their drugs from people who are selling illegally.
This is hilarious. You see, Cannabis dealers are the same, unless they grew the drug themselves, then they too are selling illegal drusg, and are associated with gun crime.Hellm0 wrote:Though admittantly, this is only applicable in the case of Cannabis. Coke/heroin/speed/e dealers are scum and I wouldnt trust them as far could throw them.
And anyway, many of the people who sell Cannabis will also be selling these other drugs.
Well, they are the cause of gun crime.Hellm0 wrote:That said I still dont think that drug users are a CAUSE of gun crime, the relationship is a correlation, not a cause;) Gun crime only rises when there's too many drug DEALERS not too many USERS
Without them, the dealers would have no-one to sell to, therefore nothing to fight about.
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Well no, because the majority of people I go to parties with don't purchase their alcohol or finger foods from illegal sellers.Giblet wrote:Jesus DesF, do you come to parties and tell everyone that they should be drinking more fluids as alchohol dehydrates people? Or that the salt levels in the finger foods keep you up at night?
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i may be wrong....but isnt gun crime in this country (at its modern levels in any case) a recent issue?
werent there drugs before we had lots of gun crime?
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DesF wrote:Well no, because the majority of people I go to parties with don't purchase their alcohol or finger foods from illegal sellers.
Man, I'm talkin about the thread! You're bringing everyone down!
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Where did these people get the weed they were selling?Wertz wrote:I'm sorry DesF; I know a few people who sell or have sold weed and not one of them has ever expressed an interest in attaining a gun to protect their patch. I've never even heard of one that lifted a blunt weapon.
...and I'm not talking about bottom of the barrel dealers selling 10 spots on a corner.
I guarantee you that at some stage along their chain of drug aquisition there were guns involved.
I have never purchased a didgy cd or dvd in my life. How dare you accuse me of illegal activity.Wertz wrote:Here's one for you; sales of pirated CDs/DVDs/Games once funded homegrown terrorism in our fine little country....did that ever stop you buying a copy from some guy calling door to door or at some outdoor market?
I'm not asking anyone to take blame for anything, just trying to get stoners to admit that they are a part of it, wether they like it or not.Wertz wrote:Asking end users to take part blame for serious crime much further up the ladder is a cop out....
I don't care one way or the toher, I don't smoke cannabis in any shape or form, however if stoners wish to remove themselves from the chain, then they should be doing exactly this. Get the government to source proper, non-exploitative cannabis and legalise the sale of it. Simple.Wertz wrote:decriminalise and remove the weed and the profits from the hands of criminals, if you really want to something about this supposed weed-related guncrime...
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Title: The Irony Of It All
Artist: The Streets
...Can't stand crime either,
them 'ooligans on 'eroin.
Drugs and criminal.
Those thugs are the pinacle of the downfall of society
ive got all the anger pent up inside of me
No. I don't see why i should be the criminal.
How could something with no recorded fatalities be illegal?
And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol?...
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Giblet wrote:Man, I'm talkin about the thread! You're bringing everyone down!
Ah, people don't want to hear the truth.
I see.
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funniest thread ever.
I've been sitting here breaking my sh1te laughing at some of the comments.
Keep 'em coming!
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Well, for medical reasons I don't drink alcohol either.jimmychin wrote:Title: The Irony Of It All
Artist: The Streets
...Can't stand crime either,
them 'ooligans on 'eroin.
Drugs and criminal.
Those thugs are the pinacle of the downfall of society
ive got all the anger pent up inside of me
No. I don't see why i should be the criminal.
How could something with no recorded fatalities be illegal?
And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol?...
So that doesn't apply to me.
I live my life inside the law too, fully.
I am a perfectly rounded individual.
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I can trace the stuff I get back to its seeds, and its only 2 steps, and there's no guns involved. I'd imagine in a few years time that'll be the standard too. I wonder then will gun crime increase or decline?
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ronanp wrote:I can trace the stuff I get back to its seeds, and its only 2 steps, and there's no guns involved. I'd imagine in a few years time that'll be the standard too. I wonder then will gun crime increase or decline?
Most people I know grow their own these days, wouldn't smoke any street/grit weed or (worse) soapbar
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DesF wrote:Ah, people don't want to hear the truth.
I see.
People don't like preached to, generally.
I smoke the odd doob and have no delusions about it's origin. I am so, so sorry DesF. Please accept my humble apologies.
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Yes, if you notice above I said that people who smoke their own drugs, that haven't been sold to them by a dealer involved with gun crime in some shape or form, either directly or indirectly , then I have no issue.ronanp wrote:I can trace the stuff I get back to its seeds, and its only 2 steps, and there's no guns involved. I'd imagine in a few years time that'll be the standard too. I wonder then will gun crime increase or decline?
I don't care if people choose to smoke cannabis, but they should think about where it is coming from a bit more.
Fair Trade cannabis ftw.
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I didn't make them read the thread, or my comments.Karsyn Noisy Skipper wrote:People don't like preached to, generally.
I have no idea why you would apoloigise to me either.
And Giblet, are them YouTube vids aimed at me?
I can't watch them in work, and I doubt if I'll be arsed later.
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DesF wrote:I live my life inside the law too, fully.
so if i go to amsterdam and have a smoke its ok?
but if i smoke in ireland its not ok?
so it all depends where you live whether i'm fueling gun crime?
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Kone wrote:Most people I know grow their own these days, wouldn't smoke any street/grit weed or (worse) soapbar
My god, don't they care about the electricity they're using? Do they want children to grow up in a horrible sort of waterworld? Because that film sucked balls.
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Is the cannabis sold in Amsterdam sourced from the same places as the cannabis sold by the illegal sellers in Ireland?jimmychin wrote:so if i go to amsterdam and have a smoke its ok?
but if i smoke in ireland its not ok?
so it all depends where you live whether i'm fueling gun crime?
Or is it fully traceable to non-exploutative, legal, sources.
If it isn't then the Dutch government needs to take a long hard look at itself.
Genuine question here.
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Very droll.ronanp wrote:My god, don't they care about the electricity they're using? Do they want children to grow up in a horrible sort of waterworld? Because that film sucked balls.
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What is going on? Why has this been stickied... have I missed something? Am I stoned and don't know it?
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AH Mods or Admins, whoever, I'd appreciate if you didn't edit my posts without explanation.
Thanks.
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People who buy coffee and chocolate are fuelling exploititive industries.DesF wrote:People who buy drugs are fuelling the gun crime problem in this Country.
FACT.
People who buy oil and oil based products such as plastics and petrol are fuelling wars.
People who buy diamonds and some other precious stones and metals are likely fuelling a company which doesn't care about the welfare of its workers.
People who buy clothes are fuelling an industry reliant on sweatshops, poor working conditions and/or child labour.
etc.
The commercial world is full of injustices. What makes buying drugs so different? And don't say "because they're illegal", I follow my conscience first and the law second.
And more on topic, I bought an 8th today.
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Looks like auld Gibbo is stoked up up good!!
I'm outa here.
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JC 2K3 wrote:And more on topic, I bought an 8th today.
You bought an illegal drug? I'm calling the cops.
on a side note I'll be buying as much as I can tomorrow
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DesF wrote:This is hilarious. You see, Cannabis dealers are the same, unless they grew the drug themselves, then they too are selling illegal drusg, and are associated with gun crime.
I supose this kind of logic would mean that, by way of its assotiation with (and supply of foreign aid to) North Korea, the US is responsible (or at least in support of) that countries Communist regime? Of course it doesnt. Your logic is flawed. FLAWED!DesF wrote:And anyway, many of the people who sell Cannabis will also be selling these other drugs.
Not all of them. Just because someone who sells heroin may sell low quality soap bar doesnt mean all people who sell weed sell heroin. "Many" people who sell weed do so as a convenience to their friends who also smoke who end up buying it from them out of laziness.
Cause and correlation are different things. Are you saying car owners are the CAUSE of certain well known petrolium companies actions in the niger delta? Thats an awfully large finger your pointing at most of the population of the world.DesF wrote:Well, they are the cause of gun crime.
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JC 2K3 wrote:People who buy coffee and chocolate are fuelling exploititive industries.
People who buy oil and oil based products such as plastics and petrol are fuelling wars.
People who buy diamonds and some other precious stones and metals are likely fuelling a company which doesn't care about the welfare of its workers.
People who buy clothes are fuelling an industry reliant on sweatshops, poor working conditions and/or child labour.
etc.
Is this a record for the most sweeping statements in one post?JC 2K3 wrote:The commercial world is full of injustices. What makes buying drugs so different? And don't say "because they're illegal", I follow my conscience first and the law second.
And more on topic, I bought an 8th today.
And by this is it safe to asusme you have no problem with all these injustices? Just as long as nothing interferes with you getting stoned? :rolleyes:
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Now, did we all learn a lesson about one another? I hope we can move past this.
Oh, I found an HILARIOUS video on that online tv site thingy,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQAFv1sI6TU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyrM7GxyzGg
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