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M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

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    #932
    hairyslug
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Is it only me or do a lot of the works done so far look to narrow to fit in 2 lanes and a hard shoulder each way plus a central barrier or is it just a matter of perspective


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    #933
    [Deleted User]
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    hairyslug wrote: »
    Is it only me or do a lot of the works done so far look to narrow to fit in 2 lanes and a hard shoulder each way plus a central barrier or is it just a matter of perspective
    It's the "dolls house" effect, have you ever seen the foundations of a new house before the walls are erected, it looks tiny.


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    #934
    hairyslug
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's the "dolls house" effect, have you ever seen the foundations of a new house before the walls are erected, it looks tiny.

    Cheers, it had started to cross my mind that they were going to use part of the old road as well cause I just couldn't see how they would fit it all in


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    #935
    vickers209
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭vickers209


    It looks like it will be a narrow divide between the 2 carageways like the gorey bypass with a concrete barrier.


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    #936
    L1011
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    vickers209 wrote: »
    It looks like it will be a narrow divide between the 2 carageways like the gorey bypass with a concrete barrier.

    This is now standard on all new motorway/motorway-grade builds. It should have slightly better overbridge treatment* than the Gorey bypass did but I've not actually checked the design to see it does.

    *the Gorey bypass widens around bridge piers very minorly and very close to the pier, it should go out for a bit longer


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    #937
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    L1011 wrote: »
    This is now standard on all new motorway/motorway-grade builds. It should have slightly better overbridge treatment* than the Gorey bypass did but I've not actually checked the design to see it does.

    *the Gorey bypass widens around bridge piers very minorly and very close to the pier, it should go out for a bit longer

    Does anyone else find these types of motorways more difficult to drive?
    I find the proximity of the concrete barrier offputting and I also struggle to maintain a nice continuous line around right hand bends.
    Is this because of not being able to see all the way through the bend or am I just incapable of evolving sufficiently for the new design?


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    #938
    antoobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    josip wrote: »
    Does anyone else find these types of motorways more difficult to drive?

    No, but then I learned to drive on country lanes, the motorways may as well be salt flats.
    josip wrote: »
    I find the proximity of the concrete barrier offputting and I also struggle to maintain a nice continuous line around right hand bends.
    Is this because of not being able to see all the way through the bend or am I just incapable of evolving sufficiently for the new design?

    The proximity of the barrier shouldn't be a problem as the road markings are usually about a foot inside the barrier.


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    #939
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    josip wrote: »
    Does anyone else find these types of motorways more difficult to drive?
    I find the proximity of the concrete barrier offputting and I also struggle to maintain a nice continuous line around right hand bends.
    Is this because of not being able to see all the way through the bend or am I just incapable of evolving sufficiently for the new design?

    I prefer these motorways - you have to *drive* them and I think you are less likely to let your mind wander off..


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    #940
    VR6
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    josip wrote: »
    Does anyone else find these types of motorways more difficult to drive?
    I find the proximity of the concrete barrier offputting and I also struggle to maintain a nice continuous line around right hand bends.
    Is this because of not being able to see all the way through the bend or am I just incapable of evolving sufficiently for the new design?


    I know what you mean. I prefer a central reservation with metal barriers, but then I live and drive in the UK where this is the norm. The concrete median makes things feel more narrow and blinkered, particularly when you are dealing with 4 lane motorways. I also think concrete medians are uglier in the long term as they discolour from silvery white to a grim dark grey !

    Of course concrete medians are safer than metal barriers and need less maintenance.

    It's just a matter of what you are used to I suppose.


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    #941
    ITDept
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭ITDept


    I think the concrete barriers are ugly, but fairly cheap and reasonably safe. I think the ones with the cables stretched along supporting stakes have been proven to be the safest (they pull a vehicle back into the correct lane rather than allowing them to smash over the top or spin uncontrollably after a smash), but presumably they are dearer to maintain.

    A couple of stretches look very close to completion on this project. Are they going to allow traffic to use the completed bits or are we going to have to wait until everything is completed?


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    #942
    Carawaystick
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    ITDept wrote: »
    I think the ones with the cables stretched along supporting stakes have been proven to be the safest (they pull a vehicle back into the correct lane rather than allowing them to smash over the top or spin uncontrollably after a smash)

    Unless the vehicle is a motorbike, where they are not safe.


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    #943
    nordydan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭nordydan


    See link below, apologies if already posted:


    http://www.nra.ie/press-releases/n11-public-consultation/index.xml
    NRA wrote:
    The NRA have made an application to redesignate the N11 Rathnew to Arklow Scheme as motorway. Please see below information in relation to the Public Consultation, including the relevant maps and schedules.


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    #944
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    nordydan wrote: »
    See link below, apologies if already posted:


    http://www.nra.ie/press-releases/n11-public-consultation/index.xml

    Is it significant that the application is for 3 sections?
    Does that mean that they plan a phased opening of the route?
    Although if so, I doubt that they will allow 120 on any one section before they are all open.

    And with a February deadline for objections, I suppose nothing will be opened before then?

    Or should I be asking Martin Bourke in the NRA (author) these questions? :)


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    #945
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    There are two sections of existing dual carriageway to be redesignated, as well as the new section. So 3 different sections:)
    I wonder when the LILOs near Arklow Rugby Club will be closed off.


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    #946
    L1011
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    josip wrote: »

    And with a February deadline for objections, I suppose nothing will be opened before then?

    They could open as DC but there'd be a needless waste in terms of signage needing replacement/reskinning from green to blue. I don't think anything will be ready by then anyway though.


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    #947
    badgerbroc11
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭badgerbroc11


    josip wrote: »
    Does anyone else find these types of motorways more difficult to drive?
    I find the proximity of the concrete barrier offputting and I also struggle to maintain a nice continuous line around right hand bends.
    Is this because of not being able to see all the way through the bend or am I just incapable of evolving sufficiently for the new design?

    I find them very monotonous. The Gorey bypass has me in stupefied trance wheras the Arklow bypass is a much easier dive with its variations in colour etc.

    By the look of the works at the moment there's going to be some interesting diversions in the new year!


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    #948
    TechnoFreek
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭TechnoFreek


    http://www.n7n11.ie/n11-update/


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    #949
    TechnoFreek
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭TechnoFreek


    Anyone have any recent photos?

    I haven't been able to see a thing since the dark mornings and evenings.


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    #950
    vickers209
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭vickers209


    Little update

    Beehive bridge looks complete

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    Looking South From Beehive

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    Looking north Towards Beehive

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    Looking South towards ballinameesda bends section

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    New Bridge South of barndarrig

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    Looking north

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    All Parked up for Christmas

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    Between jack whites And Barndarrig

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    #951
    vickers209
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭vickers209


    Between Jack Whites And arklow

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    New Bridge at Scratenagh Cross Roads

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    Arklow tie in end

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    #952
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    Looks like they could possibly have a partial opening of the northern end ahead of completion date. It'd be nice to have an early good bye to the Ballinameesda Bends.


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    #953
    Carawaystick
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    The works from Jack Whites south are shockingly slow, only cleared some topsoil and the embankments are landslipping back down onto the mainline.

    There is some huge landtake where the road climbs up to join the Arklow bypass, with the mainline, tall soil embankments and 6m wide access roads on both sides.


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    #954
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Could this thread title be appended with 'under construction' for information purposes.


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    #955
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    saw a link to this on Sabre, redesignation underway

    http://www.nra.ie/press-releases/n11-public-consultation/index.xml


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    #956
    Big Wex fan
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Big Wex fan


    Traveled south bound this morning at the bee-hive. Did anyone else think the new layout was dangerous?
    One second on the normal lane, next minute I was driving on the lay-bye and on coming traffic driving on my lane with no cones in between the new lanes.


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    #957
    OldMrBrennan83
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    #958
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    There a report in the Business section of the Wexford People that Sean O'Neill has said that this road is still on schedule to open in August/September. Not yet online. He also said that construction of the service area near Gorey will not be complete until end of February, that 4 tenders are being reviewed, and that it would be late September/October before this opened.


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    #959
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    jd wrote: »
    He also said that construction of the service area near Gorey will not be complete until end of February, that 4 tenders are being reviewed, and that it would be late September/October before this opened.
    Wait, what will open in late Sep/October?


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    #960
    L1011
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    Wait, what will open in late Sep/October?

    Gorey MSA.


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    #961
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,121 ✭✭✭prunudo


    L1011 wrote: »
    Gorey MSA.

    If it's finished in February why wait 6 months to fit it out and get tenants in? Seems a bit strange to me.


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