Old Irish Coins

Blade · 03-02-2011 9:01pm

Gaudizeit wrote: »

Christ almighty. Time to rip open the couches!

You are unlikely to find one, there was only a handful of test coins made to calibrate phone booth's and things like that. But there was strict orders to bring them back, but of course a few went missing.

http://www.irishcoins.com/?id=165&banner=1

Viper Benny · 21-02-2011 12:17am

I have a 10 pound ploughman in very good condition and was wondering if it would be worth much

bycikas · 08-04-2011 2:16am

hey guys, Snip: Read the charter!Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for

Blade · 08-04-2011 4:33pm

bycikas wrote: »

hey guys, looking for Irish (and other) coins and notes to trade or buy them from you. Just pm me.
Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for

Spring Coin & Stamp Fair Sunday 17th April 2011 RDS

Dublin Coin Auction Wednesday 20th April 6.30 2011
Viewing from Monday.
Herman & Wilkinsons Rathmines Rd. Dublin 6

gb19815 · 16-04-2011 9:52am

Hi i have 8 of these coins 2006 samuel beckett fine gold proof coin anyone know what i could get for these coins?

Blade · 16-04-2011 10:20am

gb19815 wrote: »

Hi i have 8 of these coins 2006 samuel beckett fine gold proof coin anyone know what i could get for these coins?

About 60 Euro each, though probably not from a dealer.

gb19815 · 16-04-2011 4:30pm

Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?

Mylesie · 16-04-2011 4:45pm

gb19815 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?

Dont know if this is of any help?

Designer: Emmet Mullins Mint: B.H. Mayer's Kunstprageanstalt GmbH - Germany Value: €20 Alloy: Au Quantity: 20,000 Quality: Proof Issued: 02.05.2006 Diameter: 13.92mm Weight: 1.24g

Samuel Beckett Birth 100th Anniversary Designer: Emmet Mullins Mint: B.H. Mayer's Kunstprageanstalt GmbH - Germany Value: €10 Alloy: Ag 925 Quantity: 35,000 Quality: Proof Issued: 02.05.2006 Diameter: 38.61mm Weight: 28.28g

Blade · 16-04-2011 11:09pm

gb19815 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?

You should be able to get 60 each on ebay but don't put them all up there together. If they aren't selling, lower it to 55. You could try Advert.ie too. 60 is a very fair price.

jamiecoins · 09-05-2011 11:43pm

bycikas wrote: »

hey guys, Snip: Read the charter!Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for

why not try adverts.ie theres a whole section on coins and notes

phantom_lord · 08-07-2011 10:27pm

Found a handful of the 2000 millennium coins. Are they likely to be worth much more than face value?

Judgement Day · 08-07-2011 10:28pm

phantom_lord wrote: »

Found a handful of the 2000 millennium coins. Are they likely to be worth much more than face value?

Only on Adverts.ie

sin0city · 30-12-2011 1:30pm

Hello,

Would anyone be able to tell me if this is worth anything?

Dug up in Drumcondra.

Thanks in advance.

gerard974 · 30-12-2011 1:49pm

hello
i think that is one penny 1872 from UK and in this grade the value is 6 US dollars ,the mintage is 8 495 000
best regards Gerard

sin0city · 30-12-2011 1:53pm

Thanks and thanks for the year correction.

Judgement Day · 30-12-2011 2:47pm

sin0city wrote: »

Hello,

Would anyone be able to tell me if this is worth anything?

Dug up in Drumcondra.

Thanks in advance.

I only collect coins in a very casual way but I find a quick check on eBay soon gives an accurate picture of values - as opposed to catalogue prices. Sadly, in the condition that your coin is in I would think that it is virtually worthless. Here is an example in far superior condition: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-VICTORIA-PENNY-1872-/160706709916?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item256addc99c#ht_500wt_1202

hayser · 15-02-2012 3:43pm

Does anyone know if any of the banks or charities in Ireland accept old Irish coins?

Blade · 15-02-2012 8:37pm

hayser wrote: »

Does anyone know if any of the banks or charities in Ireland accept old Irish coins?

I think most charities still do accept them. The only bank that will take them now is the central bank, but AFAIK they have to be bagged in the original denominations, like 100x pennies etc.

There's a coin fair on at the RDS this weekend, I'm sure a few dealers would buy them from you too. Are they decimal or pre decimal?

willa25 · 26-02-2012 11:28pm

I have just come across an old irish half penny dated 1690.one side shows sow and piglets and the other side shows a harp.The odd thing about this coin is that 1690 is punched right across the surface of the harp side of it. I can't find any picture of it . Is it a fake. Usually the date would be written on one side from what I understand. saor stat is one side of the harp and eireann is other side.Anyone any ideas?

coylemj · 26-02-2012 11:52pm

willa25 wrote: »

I have just come across an old irish half penny dated 1690.one side shows sow and piglets and the other side shows a harp.The odd thing about this coin is that 1690 is punched right across the surface of the harp side of it. I can't find any picture of it . Is it a fake. Usually the date would be written on one side from what I understand. saor stat is one side of the harp and eireann is other side.Anyone any ideas?

It is a defaced Irish pre-decimal ha'penny. Loyalists in NI used to punch southern coins with things like 'UVF' and obviously '1690' (Battle of the Boyne) falls into the same category.

Saorstat Eireann on either side of the harp means it is from the years 1928-37 but as the '1690' is stamped across the harp, it has probably obliterated the original date which was split across the centre of the harp e.g. '19' on the left side and '28' on the right. When 'Saorstat Eireann' was replaced by 'Eire' in 1938, the date was struck down the right side of the harp in larger numbers with 'Eire' to the left of the harp.

willa25 · 28-02-2012 7:28pm

Thanks for that.
Do you know if it is worth anything?

Judgement Day · 28-02-2012 8:19pm

willa25 wrote: »

Thanks for that.
Do you know if it is worth anything?

Curiosity value only.

Here's a defaced British 50 pence piece on eBay. The asking price is steep but you could watch it and see if it sells.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-Republican-Army-defaced-coin-/280833872838?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item416300d3c6#ht_500wt_1156

Blade · 28-02-2012 9:12pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Curiosity value only.

Here's a defaced British 50 pence piece on eBay. The asking price is steep but you could watch it and see if it sells.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-Republican-Army-defaced-coin-/280833872838?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item416300d3c6#ht_500wt_1156

Well actually the Republican ones are scarcer because the practice was carried out much more so by Loyalists. Still though, not worth a whole lot for these common stamped ones, but I've seen some crackers with very intricate work done on them.

coylemj · 28-02-2012 9:29pm

willa25 wrote: »

Thanks for that.
Do you know if it is worth anything?

Considering you could probably buy an undamaged Saorstat Eireann ha'penny for a few Euro and stamp it yourself, it's worth nothing.

Blade · 28-02-2012 10:24pm

coylemj wrote: »

Considering you could probably buy an undamaged Saorstat Eireann ha'penny for a few Euro and stamp it yourself, it's worth nothing.

I'd imagine you'd remove the patina if you attempted that. Even with the cupro nickel coins of the 70's/80's, 50p 10p etc. you'd spot a modern stamp if you had a close look at it. Though I do know some fecker who can add a convincing fake patina.

coylemj · 28-02-2012 11:15pm

Blade wrote: »

I'd imagine you'd remove the patina if you attempted that. Even with the cupro nickel coins of the 70's/80's, 50p 10p etc. you'd spot a modern stamp if you had a close look at it. Though I do know some fecker who can add a convincing fake patina.

I don't understand what you're getting at - what difference does it make if the '1690' is punched into the coin in 1969 or 2012?

Blade · 28-02-2012 11:46pm

coylemj wrote: »

I don't understand what you're getting at - what difference does it make if the '1690' is punched into the coin in 1969 or 2012?

It makes a big difference because one is an original political countermark and the other is a modern forgery of same. There's people who collect countermarked coins and even books cataloging them. The practice started as far back as the Roman times. There's a dealer here in Ireland who specialises in the Northern ones. Collectors don't want modern fakes, they want originals. Some countermarks can be extremely rare and valuable.

coylemj · 29-02-2012 1:29am

Blade wrote: »

It makes a big difference because one is an original political countermark and the other is a modern forgery of same.

How can anyone tell the difference? It's not like we're dealing with professional engravers. These people punched slogans and dates with political significance into coins, presumably with basic workshop equipment. I can't see how anyone could tell the difference between an 'original' and a 'modern forgery'.

I saw a two bob piece back in the 1970s with 'UVF' punched into it, I'm pretty sure I could reproduce it with my basic household tools.

Blade · 29-02-2012 2:48am

coylemj wrote: »

How can anyone tell the difference? ... I'm pretty sure I could reproduce it with my basic household tools.

As I said in my second last post, the patina. You try stamping anything into a chocolate brown toned copper penny and the bright original copper colour will show up like a sore thumb. Even a two bob from the 70's will have a certain amount of patina if it's been in circulation and striking into it's metal will show a brighter colour. It is of course a lot harder to tell with a cupro nickel coin of the 70's and a certain amount of fake patina can be added, this added with the fact that there's so many around means they aren't worth very much. But try this with an older coin, especially well patinated copper and you'll see the difference.

selfmade1979 · 06-04-2012 9:38pm

Hello

I have a collection of 7 eire coins that date 1986. They are the halfpenny, fivepence, penny, ten pence, two pence, twenty pence and fifty pence.. they are in a green folder like package that is unopened.. I'm told that they have good value.. Does anyone have any information about this collection?

patwicklow · 01-06-2012 2:20am

** In 1986 the Central Bank produced a specimen set of normally struck uncirculated coins (often incorrectly referred to as proofs) to coincide with the introduction of the 20 pence coin. As not all denominations were required in circulation quantities the halfpenny, the 10 pence and the 50 pence were only minted in small quantities to facilitate the production of these sets. These denominations and the sets containing them are consequently scarce. Many of the 1986 sets sold into the Irish tourist industry for sale to visitors looking for souvenirs before the local collecting community was aware of their existence - consequently many turn up in the US and Europe.

http://www.irishcoinage.com/DECCAT.HTM#2star

it would be worth a few bob have a look at the prices on the link.

patwicklow · 01-06-2012 2:25am

1986 set in green and white card folder
with gold horse motif.
Issued for the introduction of the 20p 7 Coins
- All coins dated 1986
(the 1/2 p, the 10p and the 50p were
produced only to complete these sets) 6,750 & euro575.00

Thats the value 575.00 if yours is perfect

-=AIR=- · 09-06-2012 2:18pm

Anybody know what is that

Blade · 09-06-2012 7:29pm

-=AIR=- wrote: »

Anybody know what is that

Looks like an error known as a Brockage:

"A mirror image of the design from one side of a coin impressed on the opposite side - occasionally, a newly struck coin "sticks" to a die, causing the next coin struck to have a First Strike Mirror Brockage of the coin stuck to the die"

I've no idea where the coin itself comes from.

paddyhes · 28-06-2012 1:44pm

Found the following old coins today:

5p Irish:
2000
1996
1993

10p Irish:
1999
1993
1975 (larger than other two)

1p Irish:
2000
1998
1996
1995
1994
1990
1988
1986
1985
1982
1980
1979
1978
1976
1975
1971

1/2p Irish:
1980
1978
1976
1975
1971

1d pingin:
1965
1964
1942
1937

1/2d pingin:
1965
1953
1937
1933

2p Irish:
1998
1996
1995
1990
1988
1986
1985
1982
1980
1979
1978
1976
1975
1971

20p Irish:
1998
1996
1995
1988
1986

50p Irish:
1970

English Half Pennies:
1964
1960
1959
1958
1954
1952
1946
1945
1944
1943
1941
1940
1939
(Image on coin changes from a ship to a person holding what looks like a trident)
1931
1928
1924
1916
1915
1911

English New Pence 50:
1969

English New Pence Half:
1973
1971

English One Penny:
1962
1939

English New Pence 10:
1973

English Two Pence:
1988
1980
1971

English 10 pence:
1992

English 1 Penny:
1989
1986
1981
1976
1971

English 5 Pence:
1991

English 20 pence:
1982

If anyone could just tell me what these would be worth (if anything) that would be great.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

Judgement Day · 28-06-2012 2:08pm

Central Bank on Dame Street may still take decimal coinage - if your passing. Put the whole on Adverts but don't expect much - €5 or so if you're lucky.

http://www.centralbank.ie/paycurr/notescoin/exchange/Pages/default.aspx

More info here: http://www.irishcoinage.com/DECCAT.HTM

paddyhes · 28-06-2012 2:10pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Central Bank on Dame Street may still take decimal coinage - if your passing. Put the whole on Adverts but don't expect much - €5 or so if you're lucky.

http://www.centralbank.ie/paycurr/notescoin/exchange/Pages/default.aspx

5 euro for it all?
Damn.

Judgement Day · 28-06-2012 2:12pm

paddyhes wrote: »

5 euro for it all?
Damn.

Ask for more - stick it on Adverts.ie and see what offers you get.

paddyhes · 28-06-2012 2:21pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Ask for more - stick it on Adverts.ie and see what offers you get.

So none of them are valuable? :P
not even the one from 1911?

Judgement Day · 28-06-2012 2:25pm

Not even the 1911 one - see eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=1911+halfpenny&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Always a good place to check values and remember just because somebody puts a price on something it doesn't mean anybody will buy it!

paddyhes · 28-06-2012 2:27pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Not even the 1911 one - see eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=1911+halfpenny&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Always a good place to check values and remember just because somebody puts a price on something it doesn't mean anybody will buy it!

Damn.
True :P
Thanks anyways :P

anthonyross · 04-01-2013 8:54pm

well wanted to know how much is a 1987 central bank of ireland 5 pound worth thanks

Sligo Quay · 09-02-2013 1:46pm

Just reading through this very usefull forum, coins seem to be worthless unless you have some rare dates, I have an album of coins which are probably not worth a lot, reading here auctions seem to be better than dealers, heres just a few in the album.
Edward 1 penny 1272-1307.
Queen Mary Groat 1553-1554.
Queen Mary Groat Irish 1557.
Elizabeth 1 sixpence 1568 (has a hole in it so probably worthless)
Elizabeth 1 sixpence 1572.
Queen Anne sixpence & Shilling 1711.
George 11 sixpence 1758 (hole in it so probably worthless)
George 111Irish token 1805.
William 1V Shilling 1837.
Victoria Groat 1848.
Victoria Florins 1873 1889.
Victoria 3pence 1886
Victoria Shillings 1864 1892 1899.
Large penny George 111 1797 was tolded it was a ''cartwheel''
Victoria half Farthing 1844.
Victoria Farthings 1853 1891 1900.
Victoria Gold Half Sovereign 1861.
Edward Gold Half Sovereign 1907.
A complete set of Irish pre decimal coins 1928 - 1968 excluding 1943 Florin and a few other odds and ends

Blade · 09-02-2013 2:48pm

Sligo Quay wrote: »

Just reading through this very usefull forum, coins seem to be worthless unless you have some rare dates, I have an album of coins which are probably not worth a lot, reading here auctions seem to be better than dealers, heres just a few in the album.

Sounds like you have some valuable coins there, especially the full collection of pre-decimals, depends on their condition as to the exact value. If you want to off load them all in one day there's a coin fair at the RDS the 23/24th of this month. Otherwise you could list them individually or in lots on ebay.

Sligo Quay · 10-02-2013 2:46am

Many thanks Blade, the early silver coins are in poor condition Queen Mary & Elizabeth 1, but the pre decimal Irish are in nice condition, but like all coins I don't expect much, unless I have a 1943 Irish Florin, or 1933 English penny, 1985 20P, or the long forgotten 1860 copper Farthing, half penny or penny, which I don't, then its not a Kings Ransom. I might go to that coin fair, thank you for that.

Blade · 10-02-2013 4:44am

Sligo Quay wrote: »

Many thanks Blade, the early silver coins are in poor condition Queen Mary & Elizabeth 1, but the pre decimal Irish are in nice condition, but like all coins I don't expect much, unless I have a 1943 Irish Florin, or 1933 English penny, 1985 20P, or the long forgotten 1860 copper Farthing, half penny or penny, which I don't, then its not a Kings Ransom. I might go to that coin fair, thank you for that.

Perhaps not a King's ransom but your collection is still worth a few quid. A 1943 Florin I was offered 5 or 6 years ago for 6 grand, a 1985 20p I've seen not reaching it's reserve of 9 grand at auction but a 1933 English penny you can forget about

Good luck whatever you decide to do!

Barryooosh · 01-04-2014 3:54pm

Hi all, just joined this page thread thingy. I need to ask maybe a silly question but what is an error coin? I have been collecting for a short while and have heard about all these expensive error coins namely the fantastic 20 pence irish pre euro coin. If a coin had other errors that have not been cataloged and is clearly an error in minting, would it also be worth something? The reason i'm asking this is because i recently beholded a batch of 20 pence coins all circulated and unfortunately no fantastic 1985 coin but i did come across a 1998 coin with a number of errors clearly from the mint(i'm guessing) as it does not look like scraping or denting or any other human hand made error. When comparing it to the other coins even of the same year i have not found it anywhere else. The errors are--- two little 1mm slivers on the broad side of the harp on the date half, also an extra tiny sliver on the base of the harp. Now comes the strange bit ........ On the horse side of the coin just underneath the base of the tail where the you know what of the horse is looks like a little bit of erm, poo!!! Could you please tell me what on earth would have made those distinctive marks and wether this is known to anyone else besides me and would that make the coin worth a little more. Thanks. NO, I havent been drinking!!!

Blade · 01-04-2014 5:52pm

Barryooosh wrote: »

what is an error coin? I have been collecting for a short while and have heard about all these expensive error coins namely the fantastic 20 pence irish pre euro coin. If a coin had other errors that have not been cataloged and is clearly an error in minting, would it also be worth something? .............. The errors are--- two little 1mm slivers on the broad side of the harp on the date half, also an extra tiny sliver on the base of the harp.

Any error during the entire minting process, from the production of the blank planchet (blank coin) to the striking can produce an error coin. There's a number of different things that can happen and they all have a specific numismatic term attached. However not all errors make a coin more valuable as they range from very minor and common to very dramatic and rare.

You haven't posted a photo so I can only go by what you've described, you only mention "sliver", is this "sliver" raised? If so there's a few reasons that this can happen. One is known as a "Die break" where the die used to strike the coin has a small chip in it and when it strikes it produces that raised effect on the coin. Similar to that there's a "Die crack" which will also produce a raised line after striking. There are also "lamination errors" which can produce a raised bubbling effect, these are usually caused by impurities or trapped gases caught inside the blank planchet when the metals were being mixed to produce it, or also bonding problems between the two different metals on the likes of coins that are copper covered steel for eg. Under stress, especially after being struck, the metals separate causing the bubbling effect.

Whatever happened to your coin, it sounds like one of these minor errors and therefor not exactly of much value.

You should note also that the Irish 1985 20p coin was NOT an error coin as it was struck on purpose for testing vending machines/phone booths etc.

Barryooosh · 01-04-2014 6:57pm

Thanks blade, i tried to get a picture but my camera isnt good enough for it to get the detail. They are raised and it looks kind of like the harp was attached(not actually) by hinges to maybe a cover and the cover was broken off if you know what i mean. Would it be extremely rare so to have a coin with those laminating errors and die cracking on both sides of the coin and not appear on any other coin?

Blade · 01-04-2014 7:47pm

Barryooosh wrote: »

Thanks blade, i tried to get a picture but my camera isnt good enough for it to get the detail. They are raised and it looks kind of like the harp was attached(not actually) by hinges to maybe a cover and the cover was broken off if you know what i mean. Would it be extremely rare so to have a coin with those laminating errors and die cracking on both sides of the coin and not appear on any other coin?

No, like I said those types of errors are common. I don't know what you mean about hinges, can't tell without a clear photo, but are you sure someone didn't try to make a brooch out of it or something?

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