* Irish HL predictions P 1 AND 2 * (1 thread please!)

yh · 06-06-2011 9:16am #1

Does anyone have good predictions on what will come up in paper 2.

LittleMissLost · 06-06-2011 2:43pm

An t-Oilean I think?

TaraP1993 · 06-06-2011 3:05pm

look at the leaving cert predicions thread

nil aon ni is very likely
bimse buan
jack
faoiseamh

thats the ones i have done i didnt touch the higher level poems yet or prose

lisa1 · 06-06-2011 3:40pm

bimse buan
gealt
magdilena
an bean og
lig sin i gcathu
an cearrbhach

thats what i've done so far!

BallerinaBabe · 10-06-2011 8:16pm

My teacher always gets one or two of them right! she reckons politics/recession/immigration has to come up in some form! Its been a while since sport has been up! anyone else have any premonitions??

lmwell · 10-06-2011 8:30pm

Well in the Aiste part, in general there is always at least one current affairs or issue relating to the country in the last year-
2010: Whats in store for Ireland as part of the EU
2009: Goodbye to the celtic tiger
2008: Scandal of the Health system in Irl.
2007: Global warming
2006: (Not really as specific as previous) Old and the new in Ireland
2005: The Olympic Games

So you can be fairly sure that there will be some sort of topic on a recent 'issue' - the recession is the obvious one, and hopefully very likely. Topics linking to this could be politicians, the banking crisis, Ireland today compared to the 80's.

Other topics I personally think are likely, based on that the submissions were last November, are: Ireland Greatest Hero - Who is he or she? (based on the poll run last Sept/Oct), The Queen of England (her visit was anticipated from last year), and People living to an older age (big story in the news around that time last year).

I think the drugs, social problems are things you can fit into an open topic (for example , if you were to get something like 'The problems of our country are getting worse', you could adapt that one to anything really - but I wouldnt think its likely that we're gonna get speficially 'drugs' or 'alcohol'.

Just my opinion anyway, hope it helps

claire_p · 11-06-2011 10:24am

yh wrote: »

Higher irish paper 2, what are the predictions, poetry? stories? PLEASE!

the ones i have covered because they have all been tipped in one way or another for honours poems are:

an t-oilean
maigdileana
an mhathar
dan do mhelissa
oiche na nollaig

one if not two of these has to come up..

pass poems could be any really..

pro's i've heard are;
cearrbhach
an bhean og
lig sinn

and for stair na gaeilge, i just picked the ten easiest ones to remember, and hope that two of them come up. just make sure you know both an ruraiocht and fhianniocht, becuse neither were up last year, so should defo have one up this year..

xclw · 11-06-2011 12:39pm

how many stairs are people doing?

if i learn
-aislings
-ruraiocht
-fiannaiocht
-athbheochan
-ogham
-gaeltachts
-gluaiseanna sa sean gaeilge

will i have enough to be covered or can anyone suggest another 1 or 2 to learn too
thanks!!

xclw · 11-06-2011 12:56pm

i think something on state of irish in the country could come up with the new course coming in next year

partyatmygaff · 11-06-2011 1:09pm

The IMF were called in around November so i'd imagine there may be a question on the economy and politics. I certainly hope so anyway. If it's something about the environment or some other rubbish topic I'm in big trouble.

Dougal.Maguire · 11-06-2011 2:36pm

anybody know where i might find some sample irish essays on these ^ topics ? i only have essays on sport and irish being abolised

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 3:18pm

the question of youth and immigration has a good chance of coming up (Imirce) and of course an culú eacnamaíocht (Recession) is up there too. Ive been in the college the past 4 years doing irish and the past 2 years have been these topics on my unseen essays.Check out focal.ie for the IMF term in irish, it'd be worth your while, and beo.ie have articles on everything you could imagine, so you can pick up sentences from there!

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 3:27pm

An t-Oileán is almost a given for Paper II, it has not appeared in the exam yet.

Maigdilena, Oíche Nollaig na mBan agus An Mhatháir.

j123456789 · 11-06-2011 3:37pm

Does anyone have any sample essays on immigration and problems among the youth (drugs/alcohal). My teacher was terrible and i plan on learning just these two to fit into a general essay.

Ideally about a page and a half as I am not going for an A or anything but if you have any, any help would be appreciated. I don't mind a sample or a home written essay but I understand that most don't like to give away their own as they have spent a lot of time/effort on them.

Pleas help if you can, Thanks.

peckingduck · 11-06-2011 3:56pm

When you say immigration, I take it you mean emigration? Nobody is coming into the country anymore, we're all leaving, I'd say unemployment & emigration is VERY likely..

peckingduck · 11-06-2011 4:04pm

Did An t-Oilean not come up in 2006?

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 4:05pm

peckingduck wrote: »

When you say immigration, I take it you mean emigration? Nobody is coming into the country anymore, we're all leaving, I'd say unemployment & emigration is VERY likely..

Your right, i apologise!

they are two most popular topics in the country at the minute, but dont expect the question to be clear because the heads who create this will know what people are thinking and dont want something learned off. they look to see how well students adapt to the question. Remember also its 80% for the grammar and 20% for the subject!

peckingduck · 11-06-2011 4:08pm

How do you think they could ask that?! I'm terrible at realising the hidden meaning of Qs!

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 4:08pm

oops, sorry my bad, missed 06!

its only came up in 2006 so chances are high it'll come up again.

peckingduck · 11-06-2011 4:11pm

Yes, yes! Last year was the year where it was quite obvious the poems that would be up. I say this year, with the course changing, and if maths is anything to go by, anything goes!!

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 4:12pm

peckingduck wrote: »

How do you think they could ask that?! I'm terrible at realising the hidden meaning of Qs!

Take for example a title like: " Éire ina bhfuil romhainn " (the Ireland ahead of us..)

its a fairly easy title to understand but think of what they are looking here? they havent mentioned the recession or imirce in the title. You could put both in here as well as politics too. The key is to really read the titles and ask what would they look for? i know i had the same problem when i did my leaving a few years back, i rushed reading through the titles and totally missed the key word for global warming!

peckingduck · 11-06-2011 4:14pm

That would be the most beautiful essay title in the world, so much scope for development, even throw in a bit of where drugs and violence might lead us to bump it up a bit...

I think you should set the paper!!

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 4:15pm

Your right, they wont leave it too easy or too predictable. Remember they've studied past papers too

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 4:18pm

Haha, why thank you! but i was just brainstorming there, its pot luck as to what sort of title will come up!! With the general election this year and the whole controversy about the curriculum, that could be a runner!

Eoin MurMur · 11-06-2011 4:31pm

Well our teacher gave us sample essays on...

The economic state of the country
Drugs
Alcohol
Imirce
Future of the irish language
Sport
Poverty
Environment
Crime
Violence

At this stage I'm just trying to pick which ones to focus on most cos revising all them for Monday is gonna be a nightmare. Any suggestions? I'm fairly sure I'm gonna leave out Sport anyway and I already know the economy and Environment pretty well.

Mr. Maths · 11-06-2011 4:40pm

Personally i'm hoping for a recession/politics kind of essay, I did well on that kind of one in the mocks. One on irish would seem likely with the new course and all, but remember that came up only about two years ago so I wouldn't think they'd put it on again.

plmokn · 11-06-2011 5:18pm

Well as long as An Chead Drama and Uirchill an Chreagain don't come up! They were up last year so they shouldn't... But hasn't Uirchill an Chreagain been up like 3 times in the past few years?

Seeing as this is the last year of the course, I'd say an tOilean and maybe Maigdileana?

As for prose I'm hoping Bean Og and Cearrbhach... Doubt Fiche Bliain ag Fas....

Pass poetry... Think Gealt is tipped to be the compulsory one?

Anyone have any suggestions on essay titles? I always have trouble understanding what they mean! I know I'll know enough vocab to get me by anything that comes up, but does anyone have any advice on how a question might be phrased? And how to relate your points back to the question?

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 5:41pm

Have stuff prepared on 'An Culú Eacnamaíochta' and 'Imirce' - Recession and Emmigration. they are hot topics but then again the examiners wont set anything too predicable either. just look for power words in the title. take your time reading the title and ask yourself what they look for in each one. You'll be pumped on adrenaline at the beginning of that exam,and if you find yourself freaking out at the essays, do the comprehensions first to settle yourself into the swing of things.

With an Cearrbhach, id defo have stuff on na tréithe béaloidis learned off.

lmwell · 11-06-2011 5:43pm

There is almost certainly going to be a topic on the paper than you can use your pre-rehearsed Recession essay for.

The hard bit is understanding the title and adapting to it.

One of the mocks this year had the title "Is in olcas ata an tir seo ag dul" - it's worse that this country is getting. Most will pick out tir seo as this country and be able to guess the rest, but what happens if, on the day you see something like; "Beidh an streachailt ar aghaidh" - the struggle will continue, or "Ní bhfuil an ré na saint dar críoch" - the era of greed hasnt ended (Sorry if my grammar's really bad but you get the idea)

If you dont recognise the word "strachailt" in the first on or "ré" or "saint" in the second, you're going to think that there's nothing there on recession.

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 5:50pm

its probable that they'll compose questions like that to see if students can adapt and recognize key words like what came up in your mocks. I know when i did mine a few years back i totally misunderstood a word in the title that would have led me to write an essay on environment. i ended up doing a debate about car accidents, the drink and drugs culture etc... even when it wasnt even asked in the title. there are ways and means about it, its all about the grammar at the end of the day. and not too panic

Emz.. · 11-06-2011 5:56pm

I feel really unprepared for the aiste...I need to do well in irish for points.. everyones kind of tippin recession.. I have an essay on problems in Ireland that I used it my mock - if i could twist it so that I could say the recession leads to these problems, would I be ok??

I guess it depends on the way they ask the question..Any tips?:)

Realt11 · 11-06-2011 6:02pm

it depends how well you keep to the point. going off on an opinion that you off by heart but has no relevance to the title will cost you marks BUT they give more marks on the grammar: the tense you use, how well you use it, fluency etc.

if i were you Emz id learn off a few key terms about the recession just to throw in if you want to write the essay you have. At least then they (examiners) know it aint all bull****

RandomIrl · 11-06-2011 6:18pm

"Beidh an streachailt ar aghaidh" - the struggle will continue, or "Ní bhfuil an ré na saint dar críoch" - the era of greed hasnt ended (Sorry if my grammar's really bad but you get the idea)

leanfaidh an strachailt (go deo) (ar aghaidh)... V unlikely they will use a word such as strachailt... more likely to be fadhbanna no rud éigin mar sin.

and ní thagann aon deireadh le/ar ré na sainte

Please for your own sakes, stay away from google translate for the next two days...it will do very very little for your studying.

partyatmygaff · 11-06-2011 6:21pm

Realt11 wrote: »

it depends how well you keep to the point. going off on an opinion that you off by heart but has no relevance to the title will cost you marks BUT they give more marks on the grammar: the tense you use, how well you use it, fluency etc.

80/100 for grammar and 20/100 for content. So long as you aren't looking for an A you can quite easily twist your essay to suit the title.

Saphira Bunansa · 11-06-2011 6:37pm

Heard talk of Cearrbhach Mac Caba and Lig Sinn i gCathu =/ Hope to god Ligg sin i Gcathu doesn't come up.

Poetry.. Geallt, An mhaithair, An tOilean.

Not too sure otherwise, and that's only what I've heard!

Framble · 11-06-2011 6:40pm

Clare sa Speir... an Bhean Og... Cearrbhach MacCaba.
Nil aon Ni and Jack.
Maigdileana, An t-Oilean, Dan do Mhelissa.
An Fhiannaiocht, an Caighdean, an Ogham, Dan Direach...

OMG I'M SCREWED THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WORST EXAM EVER.
sorry, i just wanted to get that off my chest.

hunii07 · 11-06-2011 6:41pm

I'm not the best at Irish but I need higher level for primary school teaching....I managed a C2 in the mocks ... but I definitely need a C or better in the exam...

What do you think will come up for prose, poetry O and H and An Triail oh and stair.....I'm hoping Oiche Nollaig na Mban...that's my best answer for poetry I know it best ....
What are the chances of Dá mb'fhéidir Arís D'ar Gcumann..? I really hate it and An mathair....

LittleMissLost · 11-06-2011 6:45pm

I'm bricking it in case I don't understand the titles!

Like last year "daoine atá i mbéal an phobal" . I wouldn't have had a clue!

RandomIrl · 11-06-2011 6:49pm

you would have known, you would have immediately panicked because it wasnt blatantly obvious, but breaking it up....daoine..yep, people, béal...mouth, obviously its not people in the publics mouth literally, so you would have been able to figure it out, its just initial panic..

plmokn · 11-06-2011 6:49pm

Realt11 wrote: »

Have stuff prepared on 'An Culú Eacnamaíochta' and 'Imirce' - Recession and Emmigration. they are hot topics but then again the examiners wont set anything too predicable either. just look for power words in the title. take your time reading the title and ask yourself what they look for in each one. You'll be pumped on adrenaline at the beginning of that exam,and if you find yourself freaking out at the essays, do the comprehensions first to settle yourself into the swing of things.

With an Cearrbhach, id defo have stuff on na tréithe béaloidis learned off.

Never covered anything on emmigration.. But I have loads on the recession and politics and that... I'm freaking out about the essay already to be honest! Just because it's worth so many marks

Thanks for the advice!

LittleMissLost · 11-06-2011 6:51pm

If something on the recession does not come up, 90% of students will be F****D.

Hopefully it wont be a similar story to the epic "Boland" fail last year...

ClaireMarie · 11-06-2011 6:55pm

plmokn wrote: »

Anyone have any suggestions on essay titles? I always have trouble understanding what they mean! I know I'll know enough vocab to get me by anything that comes up, but does anyone have any advice on how a question might be phrased? And how to relate your points back to the question?

I have trouble understanding the titles as well, so I went through all the papers back to 2000 and looked up anything I didn't understand using a dictionary. Never know, it might help

nikkaypandarr · 11-06-2011 7:10pm

hunii07 wrote: »

I'm not the best at Irish but I need higher level for primary school teaching....I managed a C2 in the mocks ... but I definitely need a C or better in the exam...

What do you think will come up for prose, poetry O and H and An Triail oh and stair.....I'm hoping Oiche Nollaig na Mban...that's my best answer for poetry I know it best ....
What are the chances of Dá mb'fhéidir Arís D'ar Gcumann..? I really hate it and An mathair....

The only thing I have learned is Oiche Nollaig na Mban....literally the ONLY HL poem. So, I am hoping with my fingers toes and eyes crossed, that it will come up.

I was at a christmas revision course, and the teacher predicted
A Mhathair
Da M'Fheidir
A Chead Drama
Uirchill and Chreagain

And essays, she predicted Road safety and Alcohol

EDIT: Ok so I did some rooting through all the notes she gave us, Oiche Nollaig na mBan she has it underlined and starred, so it must be important!! Sorry for freaking you all out!

For prose, she has lig sinn i gcathu, claire sa speir and an bean og predicted... which seem fair enough.

hunii07 · 11-06-2011 7:15pm

nikkaypandarr wrote: »

The only thing I have learned is Oiche Nollaig na Mban....literally the ONLY HL poem. So, I am hoping with my fingers toes and eyes crossed, that it will come up.

I was at a christmas revision course, and the teacher predicted
A Mhathair
Da M'Fheidir
A Chead Drama
Uirchill and Chreagain

And essays, she predicted Road safety and Alcohol

Seriously Oiche Nollaig na Mban better come up.....What..? :eek: my teacher didnt do a chead drama or uirchill an chreagain because the came up last yr.... I'm a repeat but I have very little done on those two...

LittleMissLost · 11-06-2011 7:17pm

nikkaypandarr wrote: »

The only thing I have learned is Oiche Nollaig na Mban....literally the ONLY HL poem. So, I am hoping with my fingers toes and eyes crossed, that it will come up.

I was at a christmas revision course, and the teacher predicted
A Mhathair
Da M'Fheidir
A Chead Drama
Uirchill and Chreagain

And essays, she predicted Road safety and Alcohol

WTF? seriously?

and if she's right for the essays I'm screwed

nikkaypandarr · 11-06-2011 7:28pm

plmokn wrote: »

Anyone have any suggestions on essay titles? I always have trouble understanding what they mean! I know I'll know enough vocab to get me by anything that comes up, but does anyone have any advice on how a question might be phrased? And how to relate your points back to the question?

Road safety and alcohol were tipped by the teacher at the institute in Dub? Them and politics are the only 3 i'm learning...

LittleMissLost · 11-06-2011 7:30pm

nikkaypandarr wrote: »

Road safety and alcohol were tipped by the teacher at the institute in Dub? Them and politics are the only 3 i'm learning...

Craaaaaap.... I've 2 perfect essays on road safety & alcohol but I haven't learned them off!

Chose recession and education system over them..

nikkaypandarr · 11-06-2011 7:30pm

LittleMissLost wrote: »

WTF? seriously?

and if she's right for the essays I'm screwed

I know...I was a lil confused by her logic too...
But it was in the institute, she seemed to know what she was on about :S

Eoin MurMur · 11-06-2011 7:37pm

When people say "politics" for the essay what do they mean? Corruption etc? We never got anything on that

Would you be able to wrangle in points about the cuts in health and eduction there though?

nikkaypandarr · 11-06-2011 7:39pm

hunii07 wrote: »

Seriously Oiche Nollaig na Mban better come up.....What..? :eek: my teacher didnt do a chead drama or uirchill an chreagain because the came up last yr.... I'm a repeat but I have very little done on those two...

I found my some notes she gave us on oiche nollaig, marked as VERY IMPORTANT...

biggaman · 11-06-2011 7:41pm

Hi

Rather than making a new thread, seeing as this is related to my essay on politics, could anyone give me a bit of help translating these few phrases?

Thanks!

Féachaimis ar bhuisead Bhriain Uí Luineacháin cúpla mhí ó shín. Chuir sé ar ceal an liúntas sa bhreis a thugtar dóibh siúd atá ar phinsin gach Nollaigh. Ní fhéadfadh focal ar bith a bheith ann chun cur síos beacht a dhéanamh ar an bhfearg a chuir is a chuireann go fóill ar shaoránaigh na tíre seo.

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