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  • #52
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Vents wrote: »
    Hi Steve,

    Just to clarify on the above. (Adverts.ie might not be up on the info)
    RIF's are NOT weapons. They are RIF.

    If Adverts define RIF's as weapons perhaps you could have a word? They may want to change the way they explain their exclusion of RIF's in a better way than 'including' the definition of RIF under/with that of weapons.

    :)
    Hi Vents, yeah, maybe I could have phrased that better.

    The list of prohibited items on adverts.ie is here.

    RIF's are mentioned:
    Firearms, ammunition, fireworks, explosives, blades and hazardous materials.adverts.ie does not permit the listing of projectile and concussive weapons that employ gunpowder or explosives. Basically anything that is considered a weapon is prohibited. Replica firearms are prohibited. This also includes Hilti nailguns and Hilti bullets along with any other generic brand of these.
    Toys that fire rubber pellets or foam darts are permitted.
    Airsoft guns are also mentioned:
    Airsoft guns/ammunition. Please go to the dedicated airsoft adverts forum on boards.ie if you wish to sell these.
    The reason for this is that, the adverts mods and general users who report stuff can't tell the difference between a legal Airsoft RIF and an illegal one (I certainly couldn't before I started here). Never mind the fact that anytime someone posts up something looking like a real gun, the world, his mother and dog reports it.


  • #53
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Shiroki wrote: »
    I know I'm still a newbie but I think (and this is a suggestion I dont know if it would work) Maybe there could be some sort of template for sellers ? Like this

    (Name of gun) AK47

    (Brand) Cybergun

    (Age) 6 months old

    (Info) .....

    (Picture) ...

    (Asking Price) 100

    (Open to trades) Yes

    (Location) Swords, Dublin


    It would probably be hard to enforce but would tidy up the forum :)

    What do you think ?
    I've actually been thinking of something like this - a similar system is working quite well on the new adverts site. :)


  • #54
    Shrek3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Shrek3


    Hi Mods,
    Just in relation to the star rating for users, could this be used as a guideline for new users to Know that there dealing with a fair & honest user. That the star system could be a reward system for thanked transactions on the feed back thread.

    Just a thought.

    Cheers


  • #55
    Lemming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Shrek3 wrote: »
    Hi Mods,
    Just in relation to the star rating for users, could this be used as a guideline for new users to Know that there dealing with a fair & honest user. That the star system could be a reward system for thanked transactions on the feed back thread.

    Just a thought.

    Cheers

    There was a user rating system in effect on boards before. Needless to say it doesn't exist any more and with good reason. When I were a wee lad mod (in finest Yorkshire accent), a user feedback thread was created for folks to post on deals that they had done to address this to some degree.


  • #56
    abm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭abm


    think people posting FOR SALE / FOR TRADE etc....
    should have to post pics of the item or not to post it at all as unfair to people who are interested. as it wastes a post by asking for pics as everyone wants / needs to see the item before considering interest.
    cheers 4 listening :)


  • #57
    thermo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    abm wrote: »
    think people posting FOR SALE / FOR TRADE etc....
    should have to post pics of the item or not to post it at all as unfair to people who are interested. as it wastes a post by asking for pics as everyone wants / needs to see the item before considering interest.
    cheers 4 listening :)

    no because sometimes people have no way pics.


  • #58
    clubberlang12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    I'm just wondering is it possible to have an age rating or something similiar. I know this isn't the done thing on internet forums with regard to childrens safety and that. Problem is that you dont know the age of the person you are dealing with and i think alot of the issues of late with regards transactions and dealings here are from younger posters who don't realise the significance of agreeing to a deal on here. I know it may not be viable but is only a suggestion.


  • #59
    andy_g
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    clubberlang12 wrote: »
    I'm just wondering is it possible to have an age rating or something similiar. I know this isn't the done thing on internet forums with regard to childrens safety and that. Problem is that you dont know the age of the person you are dealing with and i think alot of the issues of late with regards transactions and dealings here are from younger posters who don't realise the significance of agreeing to a deal on here. I know it may not be viable but is only a suggestion.

    There's no real rules set in place for this. However the Op/seller can state in the ad that over XYZ only as the mod team cant enforce this as people will/can lie regarding their age.


  • #60
    Br4tPr1nc3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Br4tPr1nc3


    people that put up items for trade should specify, even somewhat, what they are interested in or looking for.
    as just putting an item up for trade, and waiting to see what is offered is alot like auctioneering, which is banned for cash sales.


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  • #61
    kevlarman1
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭kevlarman1


    to be able to edit your ad to keep your ad updated
    48 hours to edit is way to short,
    may need to price drop etc
    if you have multiple items in you ad, you need to keep the boardies updated on whats sold etc,
    saves hours of answering if its is or isnt for sale
    this would be a great idea
    plus it would save time for mods, and posters as they wont have to answer/send a mail asking if they could
    change the ad
    kind of like adverts, where i can always edit.


  • #62
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    kevlarman1 wrote: »
    to be able to edit your ad to keep your ad updated
    48 hours to edit is way to short,
    may need to price drop etc
    if you have multiple items in you ad, you need to keep the boardies updated on whats sold etc,
    saves hours of answering if its is or isnt for sale
    this would be a great idea
    plus it would save time for mods, and posters as they wont have to answer/send a mail asking if they could
    change the ad
    kind of like adverts, where i can always edit.
    That's a sitewide setting for boards.ie, nothing we can do there I'm afraid. :)


  • #63
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    I think it should be against the charter to post a link to the sellers item in retail form, I know it can be considered thread spoiling but I think people should let known that its not allowed.


    heres an example:


    Seller is selling an CA M16 for 220

    Person posts a link to a CA M16 for 190 in a retail shop and asks that the price should be reduced to that retail price just because the shop is selling it for that price.

    this can cause a loss of interest in the thread, and the reason for the price in retail may be less can be a number of reasons like a sale or a clearout but should not affect the sellers asking price.

    I sort-of agree withtis in terms of linking to the likes of ehobby ebairsoft or redwolf etc but if you can show a cheaper price in Ireland i think its fair besides unless it is still wraped in its plastic and foam your hardly ever going to get asking for the gun. UNLESS of course the gun has had a major internal over haul with better quality kit that the original internals


  • #64
    J.D.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    Well for example


    Seller sells for 200

    Retail shop has a christmas sale, sells the same AEG for 160, that shouldnt affect the sellers price

    True, but if a seller is selling for 250 and a gun regularly retails for 150 (just an example) then I don't think it'd be completely unethical to post a link to the same gun


  • #65
    J.D.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    Thats true, but if the price range is only 20-40 euro in difference then it shoudlnt be necessary, it would be if the gun was retailing at 200 and people were selling for 300-400

    See, thing is, if I buy an AEG in a shop I get a brand new product, not to mention warranty etc, so a stock second hand AEG should never be anywhere close to to the price of a new gun


  • #66
    Decoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Decoy


    Any item is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay but I see no problem in any seller advertising a product at whatever price they want. I try to live by the old adage Caveat Emptor, if a buyer pays over the odds for a product that's their problem. I appreciate we are trying to foster a community spirit here on boards but if someone can't be bothered to find out what the actual market value for an item is then it's hardly the sellers fault, I see it on eBay all the time where buyers pay way more than RRP for readily available items. Following on from that, I would see it as bad form to post a link to the item offer for sale on someone else's thread. I have no problem with anyone sending a PM to the seller or potential buyer to point out that an item is available elsewhere but I don't think it should be allowed on-thread


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  • #67
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Current policy on adverts.ie is to ask people to report posts or pm a mod with a link to where something is available cheaper (retail or not).
    We then check it out and if the link is valid and represents the same item, same spec, and the price is valid for a punter in Ireland (taxes delivery etc) then a mod will post it on thread. This saves rows and gives anonymity to those wishing to point out the rip-off merchants. :)

    Worth a shot here?


  • #68
    J.D.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Steve wrote: »
    Current policy on adverts.ie is to ask people to report posts or pm a mod with a link to where something is available cheaper (retail or not).
    We then check it out and if the link is valid and represents the same item, same spec, and the price is valid for a punter in Ireland (taxes delivery etc) then a mod will post it on thread. This saves rows and gives anonymity to those wishing to point out the rip-off merchants. :)

    Worth a shot here?

    I'd say definitely worth a shot


  • #69
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    J.D.R wrote: »
    I'd say definitely worth a shot

    ditto


  • #70
    BARRETT.50BMG
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭BARRETT.50BMG


    Being anonomous seems to be the name of the game around here, this got me thinking, why cant a rule be made that all users post a photograph of themselves? Or a link to a facebook account? Or both? If your dealing with the person Face to Face and the photos dont match, simply report them for it! Its the same few people taking the piss around here with regards to adverts and honesty.


  • #71
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    BARRETT.50BMG wrote: »
    Being anonomous seems to be the name of the game around here, this got me thinking, why cant a rule be made that all users post a photograph of themselves? Or a link to a facebook account? Or both? If your dealing with the person Face to Face and the photos dont match, simply report them for it! Its the same few people taking the piss around here with regards to adverts and honesty.

    Facebook is dangerous enough without being shared or linked to other websites
    I shared my profile in my personal details and within a day of this i was hacked
    and its the first time ive ever been hacked in the 2 years ive had the account
    so iam going to have to disagree with this.

    Also thats what the user feedback thread is for if theres no mention of them
    either in a good or bad way then I would be weary


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  • #72
    BARRETT.50BMG
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭BARRETT.50BMG


    Thats why you should put a different password on every site you use.

    There are a few users on here who have ripped a lot of people off, selling broken guns etc. They should be named and shamed.


  • #73
    Sealcon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Sealcon


    I don't like that idea, I mean I don have facebbok does that mean I can't sell here, also I was always told never share personal details online, I presume a picture qualifies for that


  • #74
    BARRETT.50BMG
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭BARRETT.50BMG


    Well a couple of users on here sealcon, including your ''Brother'' Villafan have bad reputations on here. I can understand why you would'nt want to have his picture up.

    If you dont have a facebook, if your selling here most people require a photo for what your buying. I cant understand why it isnt already in practice, you could be buying from any yahoo. If this was in operation the gun that was sold here that was stolen from MIA probably wouldnt have wound up being sold here.


  • #75
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    ?
    Agree, what's that based on BARRETT.50BMG????


  • #76
    DeBurca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,746 ✭✭✭DeBurca


    I like being anonymous and would object to having to post a photo of myself, but then again I am an old git and very set in my ways plus I don’t do face book

    One thing I don’t like of late is the number of people “Selling for a friend”
    My problem is in the event of the item being non-working/broken/sub-par then who does the buyer complain to ????
    The person who placed the add can say its not my responsibility its my friend but he is unknown and the Mods cannot even sanction him as he does not exist on boards, so where does the buck stop


  • #77
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    DeBurca wrote: »
    The person who placed the add can say its not my responsibility its my friend but he is unknown and the Mods cannot even sanction him as he does not exist on boards, so where does the buck stop
    The buck stops with whoever placed the ad. I don't care if they were selling it for their aunties goat, you are responsible for your own account end of story.
    This is something that I hope restricting access here will solve as per the thread in the main forum.


  • #78
    BARRETT.50BMG
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭BARRETT.50BMG


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056215200
    The question was asked what was my statement based answer is here. As for it being rude to use another user as a bad example, said user is a notorious cheat and liar from what I can make out. I find it more rude that people think people like this should be protected.


  • #79
    sci-ops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭sci-ops


    Probably already mentioned but, any chance we could split the adverts section into something similar to the following:

    1. Airsoft Guns -
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted
    2. Airsoft Gear & Kit - (Talking Vests, pouches etc)
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted
    3. Airsoft Accessories - (Torches, Sights, Foregrips etc)
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted


  • #80
    IrishMactire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭IrishMactire


    sci-ops wrote: »
    Probably already mentioned but, any chance we could split the adverts section into something similar to the following:

    1. Airsoft Guns -
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted
    2. Airsoft Gear & Kit - (Talking Vests, pouches etc)
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted
    3. Airsoft Accessories - (Torches, Sights, Foregrips etc)
    a) For Sale
    b) Wanted

    I agree with this. Even if this model wasn't possible something similar would be great. Even something as simple as splitting the Guns from everything else (vests, pouches, torches, sights, foregrips, etc). Or simply splitting Wanted from For Sale would be great. Just anything to make it a bit tidier and a bit easier to find what you want amidst all that which you don't.


  • #81
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    That's the purpose of the thread prefixes...

    Just select the prefix at the top, click show threads and Robert's your aunties husband. :)

    Splitting the forum won't be a runner imo but if we need more prefixes and there's support for it then I'll consider approaching the admins.


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  • #82
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    I think there should be a time lock on threads over a month old as in if it hasnt seen any activity it locks itself and only the OP can request it to be unlocked as Ive just seen three uber necro threads in one morning!


  • #83
    The_Joker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭The_Joker


    Is there any chance mods could ask people who are selling/trading to put WILL NOT POST on the start of their threads in a nice visible spot or failing that add the prefix WNP to the thread title,
    It's a fair pain to go reading a list of items for sale/trade make an offer then be told "I will not post".

    Everyone has a reason but God knows how these folk get items purchased online sent to them, teleported maybe :confused:


  • #84
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    One thing I'd like changed is the 48hour lockout on your posts...I know it makes sense normally but not on the airsoft adverts...I've one post that I've to update with items sold etc and add in extra pics but it won't allow me to edit the original post as it's past 48hours.

    just seen that kevlarman asked for this as well a few pages back...ah well 2 posts looking for the same thing won't do it any harm :D


  • #85
    Inari
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    One thing I'd like changed is the 48hour lockout on your posts...I know it makes sense normally but not on the airsoft adverts...I've one post that I've to update with items sold etc and add in extra pics but it won't allow me to edit the original post as it's past 48hours.

    just seen that kevlarman asked for this as well a few pages back...ah well 2 posts looking for the same thing won't do it any harm :D
    Problem with it is that it's a side-wide setting, and can't be changed just for Airsoft Adverts...at least that's what I think Steve said


  • #86
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Inari wrote: »
    Problem with it is that it's a side-wide setting, and can't be changed just for Airsoft Adverts...at least that's what I think Steve said
    Not 100% sure about that actually - I'll try and find out.


  • #87
    The_Joker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭The_Joker


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    One thing I'd like changed is the 48hour lockout on your posts...

    +1


  • #88
    lemony tang
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭lemony tang


    can you put in a price range selection. for people who have a budget and have to stick to that. i can be a bit anoying scrolling threw all the pages to find only a few items within your budget? chers


  • #89
    thermo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    lemony tang wrote: »
    can you put in a price range selection. for people who have a budget and have to stick to that. i can be a bit anoying scrolling threw all the pages to find only a few items within your budget? chers

    then why not use a "wanted" ad?


  • #90
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    thermo wrote: »
    then why not use a "wanted" ad?

    Aw Snap! and +1 for the 48hr lockout :D


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  • #91
    kevlarman1
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭kevlarman1


    an easier way to post pics,
    with the threads
    ;)

    its a bit all over the place


  • #92
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    kevlarman1 wrote: »
    an easier way to post pics,
    with the threads
    ;)

    its a bit all over the place
    Here's one:
    go to www.wthax.org (it's owned by one of the boards developers so don't abuse it)

    Upload your pic there and it gives you the code to post in your thread here, couldn't be simpler. :)


  • #93
    se conman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭se conman


    I don't know if it is possible but when posters go to start a new ad can they be hit with a reminder of must includes (FPS , price , conditions of sale)


  • #94
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    se conman wrote: »
    I don't know if it is possible but when posters go to start a new ad can they be hit with a reminder of must includes (FPS , price , conditions of sale)
    I'd love if that were possible but sadly it's not. We have to work within the vBulletin software that the site uses.


  • #95
    Eminence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Eminence


    Im not really willing to read 8 pages to see if this was talked about before so if it was just please delete my post. Maybe after completing a deal a user could give feedback on how the deal went from the seller to the buyer and vice versa so that when buying we know when its safe and when to be carefull ?


  • #96
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    That's what the user feedback thread is for :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055848045

    It's not perfect but it's the best we can do for now..


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  • #97
    Irishmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Irishmaster


    Just a stupid idea for the feedback thread, but would it not be better for people to just put their negative feedback on there? Perhaps people dont need to know which ops are good, they just need to know the bad apples? If i was to buy/sell something, id like to not go through 50 pages just to find out(i know there is a search function but that doesnt always work).


  • #98
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Irishmaster wrote: »
    Just a stupid idea for the feedback thread, but would it not be better for people to just put their negative feedback on there? Perhaps people dont need to know which ops are good, they just need to know the bad apples? If i was to buy/sell something, id like to not go through 50 pages just to find out(i know there is a search function but that doesnt always work).
    It wouldn't better but what would work is if there was a summary of what feedback each poster got rather than gave (gave being the only thing searchable).
    The only way would be to manually create the list and I don't have the time realistically to go through the entire thread right now but if anyone wants to volunteer and help with that then I'll gladly edit a list into the first post and keep it current on a weekly basis :)


  • #99
    F.U.B.A.R
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    one thing Ive noticed lately is people who are new to the whole boards thing altogether or are borowing annother users account to make adds, that in themselves are breaking the rules of contact details or do the whole ebay bid etc etc, and then *poof* gone.... not a word from them for ages and all of a sudden.... sorry ive sold all this elsewhere :mad: Can ye (mods) not just permaban them from this section?


  • #100
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    F.U.B.A.R wrote: »
    one thing Ive noticed lately is people who are new to the whole boards thing altogether or are borowing annother users account to make adds, that in themselves are breaking the rules of contact details or do the whole ebay bid etc etc, and then *poof* gone.... not a word from them for ages and all of a sudden.... sorry ive sold all this elsewhere :mad: Can ye (mods) not just permaban them from this section?
    Yeah, another reason to make this forum 'access only'. :)


  • #101
    ShadowFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Some way of stopping back seat mods you can only post on an add if your making an offer or asking a question not just butting in for a chat there are plenty of chat sites for that


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