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Latest RedC poll FG up 3%, Lab up 5%, FF nc, Green down 3%

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  • #52
    bijapos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Back on topic,my central problem with this poll stands and that is,a third of respondents who "apparently" want Gilmore,the new Bertie, as Taoiseach indicated elsewhere in the poll that they weren't voting for his party.

    Now that makes me raise my eyebrow at the veracity of the survey,that is all.

    I think the day Gilmore is sat down in front of Sean O'Rourke or someone like him and given a good questioning he will be foung out. More so I believe that after the summer if Labour remain high in the polls the press will focus more on them. Previous to now it has been the FG leadership that has occupied the press, that has been laid to rest now.

    When the press start to push Labour as to how it will all add up in a budget and where he will save/raise money then some home truths will come out.

    Gilmore has charisma, come across well and says the right things but so far its been relatively easy for him.


  • #53
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Anyone know have the Green Party or John Gormley made any comment or response to this poll?


  • #54
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    IrishTonyO, John Gormless has compared Labour to Father Ted!

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0628/politics.html

    Seriously. Bit rich coming from a treehugger.


  • #55
    limklad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭limklad


    Many FF voters will not vote FG in anger at FF and FG voters will not vote for FF no matter what, therefore they will FF voter alternatives are either SF or Labour.

    FG alternatives are Labour or PD's

    Over the last couple of elections
    when PD rise, FG fell.
    when FG Rise, PD fell.
    When FF Fall, Labour Rise.
    When FF rise, Labour fell.

    Now that the PD's are gone FG has soak that vote in the last election, with Mary Harney and Noel Grealish (both ex FF) and will continue as Independents.


  • #56
    Wide Road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Wide Road


    bijapos wrote: »
    I think the day Gilmore is sat down in front of Sean O'Rourke or someone like him and given a good questioning he will be foung out. More so I believe that after the summer if Labour remain high in the polls the press will focus more on them. Previous to now it has been the FG leadership that has occupied the press, that has been laid to rest now.

    When the press start to push Labour as to how it will all add up in a budget and where he will save/raise money then some home truths will come out.

    Gilmore has charisma, come across well and says the right things but so far its been relatively easy for him.

    Eamon went missing over the last few days. I reckon it's because of the stag hunting bill. The Labour party has done a U-turn on this and Tommy Broughan is now out the party because of this. Eamon will find it harder because he can't go missing when it suits him and doing U-turns to get extra rural votes. Watch this space.


  • #57
    freewheeler
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭freewheeler


    Wide Road wrote: »
    Eamon went missing over the last few days. I reckon it's because of the stag hunting bill. The Labour party has done a U-turn on this and Tommy Broughan is now out the party because of this. Eamon will find it harder because he can't go missing when it suits him and doing U-turns to get extra rural votes. Watch this space.
    Now if only Clowen and his sheep would go missing also (preferably in the bermuda triangle) there might be some hope for the country....


  • #58
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    freewheeler wrote: »
    Now if only Clowen and his sheep would go missing also (preferably in the bermuda triangle) there might be some hope for the country....

    It wouldn't make a massive amount of difference, tbh; they've already done the vast bulk of the damage.


  • #59
    conorhal
    Registered Users Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Het-Field wrote: »

    If FG decide to wield the knife after three poor polls, then why are FF not sharpening the daggers after FF have failed to capitalise on another poor poll for FF. Cowen's personal rating is in the gutter, and the party is stuck on a 24% rut.

    Simple, even FF see Cowen as a lame duck, but there are some nasty cuts and controversial decisions in the pipeline, just look at the kerfuffle over the stag hunting bill.
    No new leader wants to step up and take those hits and have them on his record, so any new leader won't be elected untill about 6 months before the election (in the hope of seeing an electoral boost for FF basking in the honeymoon glow of fresh new leadership), or just after one it if there is a snap election called. In that way the new regime has a relitively clear slate and a whipping boy to blame for the mistakes of the past.


  • #60
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Would clowen actually call a snap election though? relying on his paid gobsh!tes in the paper and on the air to do the work for him, of course.


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  • #61
    conorhal
    Registered Users Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭conorhal


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    Would clowen actually call a snap election though? relying on his paid gobsh!tes in the paper and on the air to do the work for him, of course.

    No, but the Greens might......


  • #62
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    conorhal wrote: »
    No, but the Greens might......

    If they call one over some small pet issue of theirs now they'll DEFINITELY be signing their own suicide note, having allowed NAMA and the bank guarantees through, and having voted confidence in a few unacceptable characters.


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