Why would an Irish person wear a poppy ?

thecommietommy · 28-10-2012 3:51pm #1

After all it's for a foreign army, I don't see anyone wearing an emblem for the French, American, Spanish army. Ok some say it's for charity for injured British soldiers, but surely if they join up it's up to the British govt to properly look after them when they are injured and not pestering people expecting charity ?

Immaculate Pasta · 28-10-2012 3:52pm

Here we go again...

thecommietommy · 28-10-2012 3:52pm

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Here we go again...

Very insightful input :rolleyes:

The King of Moo · 28-10-2012 3:54pm

How many Irish people even wear a poppy?

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 28-10-2012 3:54pm

People may have relatives who died on duty for the British army.

I've had relatives in the British army, wouldn't even consider wearing a poppy though.

Spunge · 28-10-2012 3:54pm

Britain took care of us for many years, they are like family to us. I will pay respects to any of them who died. God save the queen.

Deedsie · 28-10-2012 3:55pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

After all it's for a foreign army, I don't see anyone wearing an emblem for the French, American, Spanish army. Ok some say it's for charity for injured British soldiers, but surely if they join up it's up to the British govt to properly look after them whne they are injured and not pestering people expecting charity ?

Perhaps a relative of theirs fought and died while fighting for the British army or navy or Air Force? Who are you to judge someone else for their belief or how they want to honor their family members?

Personally no, I never would wear one! But I wouldn't judge anyone who did! I wish we could wear the Easter Lilly as a mark of respect for any Irish man who fought. But it's been tainted over the years!

cb102 · 28-10-2012 3:56pm

Sounds like someone's hopping the ball here

yeah I'd wear one, sure.

burstbuckle · 28-10-2012 3:56pm

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Here we go again...

Yeah must be nearly November,time to log off & ill see yiz in dec,
O.P there's a hundred threads on this shoite

girl2 · 28-10-2012 3:56pm

I see some people in the north wearing them. And they are usually of a particular religious affiliation.

Mycroft H · 28-10-2012 3:57pm

Because an estimated 30,000 people died in WW1 from Ireland. Simple as. It's a symbol remembering those who died, and nothing more.

ITS_A_BADGER · 28-10-2012 3:58pm

what harm are they doing by wearing em anyway? so what like?

thecommietommy · 28-10-2012 4:02pm

burstbuckle wrote: »

Yeah must be nearly November,time to log off & ill see yiz in dec,
O.P there's a hundred threads on this shoite

Well their plastered all over Sky News so the thought occured to me. Off and write your letter to Santa then so.

thecommietommy · 28-10-2012 4:03pm

girl2 wrote: »

I see some people in the north wearing them. And they are usually of a particular religious affiliation.

I'm afraid you have a good point there.

http://s11.postimage.org/879yl54ar/Roden_Street_South_Belfast.jpg

Rigol · 28-10-2012 4:07pm

Why would an Irish person wear a poppy?

Most likely out of not wanting to isolate themselves in work/work politics if they worked in G.Britain.

Not only for the possible consequences that may bite them in the 4rse but also to avoid the general BS and nagging.

Btw I find it ridiculous that its expected of EVERYONE. Its like saying 'why didn't you go to Mecca this year...you should be fking ashamed of yourself'.

burstbuckle · 28-10-2012 4:07pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

Well their plastered all over Sky News so the thought occured to me. Off and write your letter to Santa then so.

Yeah & their plastered all over this site too,
Now no need to get cranky,c'mon the little poppy wearing soldier

Pumpkinseeds · 28-10-2012 4:07pm

A lot of people wear the poppy as a sign of remembrance and respect for those that have fought and died in the first and second world wars. Many Irish men enlisted in the English army to fight those wars and they lost their lives doing so. Today the poppy is better known as the symbol for the charity. I would have no hesitation in wearing it. Anyone who begrudges it really must have an empty and bitter life.

Mycroft H · 28-10-2012 4:09pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

I'm afraid you have a good point there.

http://s11.postimage.org/879yl54ar/Roden_Street_South_Belfast.jpg

Its only a problem if you make it out to be one

That's the war memorial at Islandbridge in Dublin for those that don't know

philologos · 28-10-2012 4:10pm

Not this again

Simply put, many people wear the poppy to commemorate the dead at war. I've worn it in the past in Ireland. I remember others doing so when I grew up. The bizarre thing is that some people seem adamant use an event which is designed to commemorate the war dead into a sectarian argument / push for republicanism in 2012.

Bassfish · 28-10-2012 4:10pm

I have mixed feelings on it, my dad is English and served in the Royal Air Force his father was Irish and fought in ww2 and his father was Irish and fought in ww1. I was in Liverpool last November and my dad asked me to buy a poppy for him, no hassle I said. I saw a stall selling them, was walking over and saw that the fella manning it had a maroon beret on i.e. he was a paratrooper. Nope, couldn't do it, couldn't hand money over to a para. So I didn't.
Don't think I'd ever wear a poppy but no problem with anyone who does.

Galwayguy35 · 28-10-2012 4:13pm

Would never wear one, it's a British tradition, not an Irish one.

Madam_X · 28-10-2012 4:15pm

I'm sure many folks wear one for jingoistic/inflammatory reasons, but many more are simply commemorating the countless young men who lost their lives.

thecommietommy · 28-10-2012 4:15pm

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

A lot of people wear the poppy as a sign of remembrance and respect for those that have fought and died in the first and second world wars. Many Irish men enlisted in the English army to fight those wars and they lost their lives doing so. Today the poppy is better known as the symbol for the charity. I would have no hesitation in wearing it. Anyone who begrudges it really must have an empty and bitter life.

I don't think the victims of the British army would be so charitable to them. Besides, why don't they get the British govt to look after them instead of begging on the streets pestering people ?

Kia_Kaha · 28-10-2012 4:19pm

I'm English and my maternal grandfather was Anglo-Indian. He fought for the British army in WWII before settling in England. I have never worn a poppy, either in the UK or here in Ireland. I don't see how attaching a plastic flower to my jacket is honouring anybody. I have come to the conclusion that it is simply a symbol of imperialism. I do however make a special effort to go to a church on November the 1st and say a prayer for the dead.

golden lane · 28-10-2012 4:19pm

who cares what anybody on here, does or doesn't do.......

Pumpkinseeds · 28-10-2012 4:28pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

I don't think the victims of the British army would be so charitable to them. Besides, why don't they get the British govt to look after them instead of begging on the streets pestering people ?

Clearly you have some sort of axe to grind with the British, how sad and clichéd that people like you still exist. Enjoy your vitriol I'm not interested in playing your game, am out of this thread now.:rolleyes:

cb102 · 28-10-2012 4:28pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

I'm afraid you have a good point there.

http://s11.postimage.org/879yl54ar/Roden_Street_South_Belfast.jpg

But if the UFF like eating pasta or Bob Dyaln, it doesn't mean I'm not gonna like the two form now on.

jd007 · 28-10-2012 4:29pm

Jesus not this shíte again...

Madam_X · 28-10-2012 4:33pm

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Clearly you have some sort of axe to grind with the British, how sad and clichéd that people like you still exist. Enjoy your vitriol I'm not interested in playing your game, am out of this thread now.:rolleyes:

And look at his sig. Might be a wind-up though...

Rigol · 28-10-2012 4:34pm

Throws out Bob Dylan collection.
Is spaghetti a form of pasta?

Madam · 28-10-2012 4:34pm

I voted yes but I wear the white poppy - I don't need a red one to remember those who died in ALL the worlds conflicts past and present(no matter their race, religion or country).

Lapin · 28-10-2012 4:35pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

After all it's for a foreign army, I don't see anyone wearing an emblem for the French, American, Spanish army. Ok some say it's for charity for injured British soldiers, but surely if they join up it's up to the British govt to properly look after them when they are injured and not pestering people expecting charity ?

I'm willing to bet that you have never been 'pestered' by anyone selling a poppy.

There is no in your face exposure to advertising and marketing campaigns for the poppy, unlike hundreds of other goods that you willingly purchase each year without moaning about being pestered by those you gladly buy them from.

I'm sick of this same old shítstirring tripe beong regurgitated every year by people who know little or fúckall about what they're talking about.

No one forces anyone to wear a poppy. If people want to wear one, let them off. Its their business.

Live and let live - And STFU.

mattjack · 28-10-2012 4:35pm

Bassfish wrote: »

I have mixed feelings on it, my dad is English and served in the Royal Air Force his father was Irish and fought in ww2 and his father was Irish and fought in ww1. I was in Liverpool last November and my dad asked me to buy a poppy for him, no hassle I said. I saw a stall selling them, was walking over and saw that the fella manning it had a maroon beret on i.e. he was a paratrooper. Nope, couldn't do it, couldn't hand money over to a para. So I didn't.
Don't think I'd ever wear a poppy but no problem with anyone who does.

Because of something that happened 40 years ago ?

Sound of Silence · 28-10-2012 4:38pm

mattjack wrote: »

Because of something that happened 40 years ago ?

And which was only put to rest two years ago.

mattjack · 28-10-2012 4:41pm

Sound of Silence wrote: »

And which was only put to rest two years ago.

I think there's more than para's allowed wear maroon berets in the British , Air Assault etc, some non jump personnel too .

indioblack · 28-10-2012 4:43pm

Rigol wrote: »

Why would an Irish person wear a poppy?

Most likely out of not wanting to isolate themselves in work/work politics if they worked in G.Britain.

Not only for the possible consequences that may bite them in the 4rse but also to avoid the general BS and nagging.

Btw I find it ridiculous that its expected of EVERYONE. Its like saying 'why didn't you go to Mecca this year...you should be fking ashamed of yourself'.

Most people I see and work with here don't wear poppies at this time of year.
I suspect there is some unspoken pressure on people appearing on tv to wear one.
I usually buy one if I'm out - and it usually ends up in the glove compartment!
I've no problem buying one - not into making a statement out of it though.

wendell borton · 28-10-2012 4:46pm

Because sky and the tabloids say so.

Deedsie · 28-10-2012 4:46pm

mattjack wrote: »

Because of something that happened 40 years ago ?

Fairly sure the majority of wars Britain fought in were more than forty years ago? By your "Because of something that happened 40 years ago" why should anyone bother with the poppy, if it was more than forty years ago... Forget about it sure? The paras committed an absolute attrocity on the streets of Derry! It should never be allowed to be forgotten! It's part of Irish history!

Jimoslimos · 28-10-2012 4:54pm

OSI wrote: »

thecommietommy wrote: »

I don't think the victims of the British army would be so charitable to them. Besides, why don't they get the British govt to look after them instead of begging on the streets pestering people ?

Oh look, somebodies started a thread to try and justify their grievances.

I know it's hated here, but I think it's justified in this case:

"Thinly veiled, I hate the British, thread"

The OP may have an axe to grieve with the British but the point is a good one, regardless of political affiliation.

I don't agree with the wars British soldiers have been sent to serve in, I don't regard them as 'heroes' or people worth revering in any way.
However if the government decides to send those men and women into battle zones then the government should pay the price of rehabilitation etc and not rely on public goodwill and charity to cover the shortfall.

Jarrod · 28-10-2012 4:54pm

What about Daffodil day? The cheek of those feckers, pestering me to give money to a charity.

Celly Smunt · 28-10-2012 4:56pm

Due to the Irishmen who died fighting for britain to defend Ireland,because like it or not,Britain is a bigger defence to us than our own army.

ancapailldorcha · 28-10-2012 4:59pm

Been wearing them this time of the year all my life. I've no issue whatsoever wearing one.

wendell borton · 28-10-2012 5:07pm

But their lonely graves are by Suvla's waves
On the fringe of the gray North Sea.
But had they died by Pearse's side
Or fought with Cathal Brugha,
Their names we'd keep where the Fenians sleep.

gallag · 28-10-2012 5:09pm

When I wear a poppy it is a small way of thanking and keeping the memory alive of the sacrifices EVERY man woman and child gave for our freedom. To make this a bad thing is small minded

OneArt · 28-10-2012 5:10pm

girl2 wrote: »

I see some people in the north wearing them. And they are usually of a particular religious affiliation.

Those damn space voodooists.

gallag · 28-10-2012 5:10pm

When I wear a poppy it is a small way of thanking and keeping the memory alive of the sacrifices EVERY man woman and child gave for our freedom. To make this a bad thing is small minded

Celly Smunt · 28-10-2012 5:11pm

there's an awful echo in here.

Deedsie · 28-10-2012 5:23pm

mattjack wrote: »

..

Can you rephrase all that, it's impossible to read when you mix your answer and quote me within the same quote brackets?

Red Pepper · 28-10-2012 5:27pm

My grandfather lost 2 brothers in WW1. He died fairly young too and I was told he would never talk about the war.
So yes I would wear the poppy.

ejmaztec · 28-10-2012 5:32pm

A more important question is "where's Seanchai?"

Jimoslimos · 28-10-2012 5:33pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

A more important question is "where's Seanchai?"

Waiting for Fratton Fred...

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