World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor

Berns · 11-04-2014 12:16am

Can be ok if they willing to learn or read up on their class at least beforehand. Have seen people that aint hit/expertise capped, have loada pvp gear, aint gemmed (at all or correctly) or enchanted at all, maybe not even reforged. Them ya just wonder why ya bother

PropJoe10 · 11-04-2014 12:53am

Berns wrote: »

Can be ok if they willing to learn or read up on their class at least beforehand. Have seen people that aint hit/expertise capped, have loada pvp gear, aint gemmed (at all or correctly) or enchanted at all, maybe not even reforged. Them ya just wonder why ya bother

I have seen paladin healers in LFR nicely kitted out in full ungemmed strength gear. You would lose faith in humanity when you see the likes of that!

GerB40 · 11-04-2014 1:07am

Right here's the story. I never played world of warcraft. The whole 'elves and magic' thing never appealed to me. Then skyrim was released (a friend gave it to me even though I didn't want it too much). After 500 gameplay hours it's safe to say I'm addicted to it more than any game ever.
I've been told world of warcraft is similar to skyrim but bigger (a lot said better).
So basically what I'm asking is, is it worth getting into? Is it too late? Any advice would be really appreciated.
Nice one...

Calhoun · 11-04-2014 1:10am

The elders scroll online would be allot similar to Skyrim than WoW would be. Its not to late to get into it thought its just a much different experience than skyrim in many ways.

Have you checked out ESO?

GerB40 · 11-04-2014 1:14am

Calhoun wrote: »

The elders scroll online would be allot similar to Skyrim than WoW would be. Its not to late to get into it thought its just a much different experience than skyrim in many ways.

Have you checked out ESO?

Not yet. I heard so much about warcraft that I thought I might give it a go. Is world of warcraft on consoles or on pc?

SpuddMurphy · 11-04-2014 1:53am

GerB40 wrote: »

Is world of warcraft on consoles or on pc?

It's on PC only. If you're looking for a more Skyrim sort of feeling to a game ESO is the choice for you, it's also releasing on Consoles in June.

GerB40 · 11-04-2014 1:59am

SpuddMurphy wrote: »

It's on PC only. If you're looking for a more Skyrim sort of feeling to a game ESO is the choice for you, it's also releasing on Consoles in June.

Yeah I think I was headin towards ESO anyway. I'd just love to try warcraft.. Ah shur, what can ya do??. Nice one for the advice.

silverbolt · 12-04-2014 8:25pm

just reactivated and logged into azjol nerub - damn this servers dead. And i dont want to pay 30usd to move by alli and horde to a bigger server

Vicxas · 14-04-2014 8:30am

silverbolt wrote: »

just reactivated and logged into azjol nerub - damn this servers dead. And i dont want to pay 30usd to move by alli and horde to a bigger server

I would suggest maybe making a new toon on a better server, migrations will be happening before the expansion I reckon.

silverbolt · 14-04-2014 9:33am

Vicxas wrote: »

I would suggest maybe making a new toon on a better server, migrations will be happening before the expansion I reckon.

yeah thats what i did, is not the toons so much - its the gold thats gone

Vicxas · 15-04-2014 12:26pm

silverbolt wrote: »

yeah thats what i did, is not the toons so much - its the gold thats gone

With the gold you make now doing quests post WOTLK you make a fair amount fairly quick

PropJoe10 · 14-08-2014 6:22pm

Confirmed release date - 13th November 2014.

Grim. · 14-08-2014 6:40pm

ryanakabyitz · 14-08-2014 6:53pm

orcs. orcs everywhere

also no alliance love

Kiith · 14-08-2014 6:55pm

That was pretty cool. They really do know their cinematics, and it's great to see the characters i grew up with. Looking forward to seeing what it's like.

Vicxas · 14-08-2014 7:56pm

Looking forward to seeing Draenor before the Burning Legion split it up

Now ill just have to convince my missus that this will be JUST as important as my newborn due around the same time

ShaShaBear · 14-08-2014 7:59pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing Draenor before the Burning Legion split it up

Now ill just have to convince my missus that this will be JUST as important as my newborn due around the same time

My baby is three weeks old now, I've already found a buyer for her to pay for the expansion and a sub... Prioritise!

Calhoun · 14-08-2014 8:21pm

ryanakabyitz wrote: »

orcs. orcs everywhere

also no alliance love

Well as this is an alternate reality and not a replacement for the current universe all of what happened to the alliance still happens. The only thing they could have done is had something to do with Draenai.

As they are doing mini series like shaoshao it could still have Draenai vids.

shruikan2553 · 14-08-2014 8:31pm

Disappointed no draenei were shown but still cool. The more I see the more likely i am to buy.

Kiith · 15-08-2014 10:44am

So there won't really be any alliance presence in this expansion, will there? Or will the Dark Portal actually be built and we'll see another invasion?

shruikan2553 · 15-08-2014 11:24am

Kiith wrote: »

So there won't really be any alliance presence in this expansion, will there? Or will the Dark Portal actually be built and we'll see another invasion?

The draenei are involved and the alliance are helping them. No idea how though.

Calhoun · 15-08-2014 12:07pm

Kiith wrote: »

So there won't really be any alliance presence in this expansion, will there? Or will the Dark Portal actually be built and we'll see another invasion?

The Draenei story changes as you would expect the horde from this alternative universe build up the iron horde and come out at our current point in time (after mop), this cinematic just illustrates where it all started.

The current universe hord and alliance (players) go through the portal in an attempt to shut it down, alliance team up with Draenei, horde with the frost wolves. We the get left behind to destroy the iron horde to stop them invading our Azeroth.

The cinematic is only really illustrating one of the key moments in which garrison changes the events of the alternative past.

Kiith · 15-08-2014 12:31pm

Ah ok, so it's everyone against the Hellscreams/Iron Horde?

Can't wait to see the likes of Grom, Gul'Dan and other old school characters. Wonder if the Alliance side will change much, and if the events of Wrath will have taken place. Possibly an uncorrupted Arthas and a not dead Uther appearing?

Calhoun · 15-08-2014 12:36pm

Kiith wrote: »

Ah ok, so it's everyone against the Hellscreams/Iron Horde?

Can't wait to see the likes of Grom, Gul'Dan and other old school characters. Wonder if the Alliance side will change much, and if the events of Wrath will have taken place. Possibly an uncorrupted Arthas and a not dead Uther appearing?

Yes this is an alternative universe linked to our present day world, the events that changed the alternative universe or where the timeline splits is in the past.

The alternative universe is only on the horde side because it happened in draenor, the use the portal technology to link to our universe, so arthas and most alliance heroes will have the same fate in fact they are killing off some of our heroes who were on draenor in the alternative universe but also alive in our timeline so they stop duplication.

Kiith · 15-08-2014 1:07pm

So do the Orcs still open the Dark Portal around the same time as our timeline? Or do they not appear at all until after MOP? If they don't appear till now, then wouldn't the Burning Legions invasion be totally different?

Time travel makes me go cross eyed...

Calhoun · 15-08-2014 1:21pm

Kiith wrote: »

So do the Orcs still open the Dark Portal around the same time as our timeline? Or do they not appear at all until after MOP? If they don't appear till now, then wouldn't the Burning Legions invasion be totally different?

Time travel makes me go cross eyed...

Yes the orc's still open the darkportal in our timeline at the exact point they did before so all events that have happened so far play out as normal. Our history has not changed one bit.

What happens is

the greendragon's have a faction who aren't happy they are no longer immortal and have lost a good bit of their power, they team up (mainly kairoz hes on timeless isle) with wraithon who is a bit butthurt that Varian didnt destroy the horde at the end of the siege of ogrimmar.

Wrathion's goal was to have one army in azeroth that would be strong enough to take on the burning legion but what he fails to see is the horde and alliance are strong because of each other not and without one the other would be weak (hence why it is speculated that in the alternative universe the azeroth has been taken over by the burning legion.

Long story short Kairos and Wrathion team up with the female leader of the dragonmaw (forget her name but she apparently is pregnant with Garroshs baby) and they bust Garrosh out, take all his technological designs from SOO and they go back in time to draenor. However its not our universe its an alternative version (they have just said that it happens because it happens they havent explained further so the lore buff's are like WTF)

They link the alternative universe to our current day, after the events of MOP and the warcrime trial of garrosh. I would assume the reasoning is that wrathion gets his army strong enough to take out the legion, this is backed up by Grom killing Mannoroth years before he was supposed too.

Health warning on the above, i may have got some details wrong but you get a general sense of whats going on.

shruikan2553 · 15-08-2014 7:11pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Yes the orc's still open the darkportal in our timeline at the exact point they did before so all events that have happened so far play out as normal. Our history has not changed one bit.

What happens is
the greendragon's have a faction who aren't happy they are no longer immortal and have lost a good bit of their power, they team up (mainly kairoz hes on timeless isle) with wraithon who is a bit butthurt that Varian didnt destroy the horde at the end of the siege of ogrimmar.

Wrathion's goal was to have one army in azeroth that would be strong enough to take on the burning legion but what he fails to see is the horde and alliance are strong because of each other not and without one the other would be weak (hence why it is speculated that in the alternative universe the azeroth has been taken over by the burning legion.

Long story short Kairos and Wrathion team up with the female leader of the dragonmaw (forget her name but she apparently is pregnant with Garroshs baby) and they bust Garrosh out, take all his technological designs from SOO and they go back in time to draenor. However its not our universe its an alternative version (they have just said that it happens because it happens they havent explained further so the lore buff's are like WTF)

They link the alternative universe to our current day, after the events of MOP and the warcrime trial of garrosh. I would assume the reasoning is that wrathion gets his army strong enough to take out the legion, this is backed up by Grom killing Mannoroth years before he was supposed too.

Health warning on the above, i may have got some details wrong but you get a general sense of whats going on.

Where was this explained? War Crimes?

Calhoun · 15-08-2014 7:37pm

Best overview i can find is

It uses a combination of the books (warcrimes), twitter from blizzard lore managers, and from the beta.

Lone Stone · 16-08-2014 12:59pm

So anyone else see'ing this as a sneaky cool way to bring back arthas ?

Calhoun · 16-08-2014 1:07pm

Lone Stone wrote: »

So anyone else see'ing this as a sneaky cool way to bring back arthas ?

No because they will bring Illidian back before they bring Arthas.

shruikan2553 · 16-08-2014 3:11pm

I doubt we will be seeing any non orc or draenei people from the past. The new portal is being built to connect to the original timeline we all know so unless another portal is made between draenor and old azeroth then nobody there knows any of this is happening. Maybe with the legion Medivh will get involved but I doubt it.

Kiith · 18-08-2014 3:09pm

How long does it take to level from 85-90? I'm torn between getting my Paladin or Warlock to 90, or sticking with any of the alts i have. I've also very little gold, so levelling might be best. How much would you generally earn from 85-90?

And has anyone who bought the game used their free lvl90 boost?

PropJoe10 · 18-08-2014 3:15pm

Kiith wrote: »

How long does it take to level from 85-90? I'm torn between getting my Paladin or Warlock to 90, or sticking with any of the alts i have. I've also very little gold, so levelling might be best. How much would you generally earn from 85-90?

And has anyone who bought the game used their free lvl90 boost?

At the moment, quite a long time, I dont think they've nerfed the XP between 85-90 yet (although correct me if I'm wrong, someone). The MoP questlines are quite cool so if you have time, I'd advise you to do some questing if you havent seen them yet. Lots of gold to be made, usually between 10g and 20g per quest.

Used my free boost alright. The free boost is best used for a character at level 60 or above because you also get your professions maxed. If you boost a new character or character below level 60 you'll be left with low level professions.

Calhoun · 18-08-2014 3:38pm

PropJoe10 wrote: »

At the moment, quite a long time, I dont think they've nerfed the XP between 85-90 yet (although correct me if I'm wrong, someone). The MoP questlines are quite cool so if you have time, I'd advise you to do some questing if you havent seen them yet. Lots of gold to be made, usually between 10g and 20g per quest.

Used my free boost alright. The free boost is best used for a character at leve6 60 or above because you also get your professions maxed. If you boost a new character or character below level 60 you'll be left with low level professions.

I was under the impression they have nerfed it, I don't have a source in it but i have around 8 level 90's and it's fairly simple to get to it now.

You should make anywhere between 7-10k depending on the amount of quests you do if you level.

When you use your level 90 make sure to use it on a level 60+ char as you get free professions which normally sap your gold.

Kiith · 18-08-2014 5:04pm

Ah, so if you're above lvl60 you get your professions boosted to max is it? I was going to just boost a lvl1, but grinding professions might be a pain. Can you still level Enchanting by running low level instances?

I need gold, so i might level my lvl 83 Paladin by questing in that case. Probably about time too, as he was my original character back in the day.

PropJoe10 · 18-08-2014 5:37pm

Kiith wrote: »

Ah, so if you're above lvl60 you get your professions boosted to max is it? I was going to just boost a lvl1, but grinding professions might be a pain. Can you still level Enchanting by running low level instances?

I need gold, so i might level my lvl 83 Paladin by questing in that case. Probably about time too, as he was my original character back in the day.

Yeah well you can level it by running dungeons/questing and disenchanting any green items you come across. Its a right pain though, levelling professions to max level. Think they are talking about being able to ease the pain of levelling professions a bit but I dont know if they are planning on making enchanting any easier.

Calhoun · 18-08-2014 7:54pm

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Yeah well you can level it by running dungeons/questing and disenchanting any green items you come across. Its a right pain though, levelling professions to max level. Think they are talking about being able to ease the pain of levelling professions a bit but I dont know if they are planning on making enchanting any easier.

If you have the level boost, it's so much better than trying to level through dungeons.

They are going to make it easier I believe the garrisons in wod will have some sort of minion that will do the grunt work for you.

Kiith · 20-08-2014 12:39pm

You certainly make a fair amount of cash from levelling. Got from 83 to 85 on my Paladin last night (think you rested XP), and made around 1200g. It's about the only way to make money on the server i'm playing on at the moment, as no one seems to be buying anything.

It's bloody weird not being able to fly in Pandaria though.

Vicxas · 20-08-2014 7:30pm

Kiith wrote: »

You certainly make a fair amount of cash from levelling. Got from 83 to 85 on my Paladin last night (think you rested XP), and made around 1200g. It's about the only way to make money on the server i'm playing on at the moment, as no one seems to be buying anything.

It's bloody weird not being able to fly in Pandaria though.

Best get used to it for Draenor. I'm about to head to Pandaria with my pala tank, just gonna dungeon it from 85-90. I've levelled too many times there to care anymore.

ryanakabyitz · 23-08-2014 9:45pm

so what is everyone's plans for wod ? will you be focusing on pve or pvp ? hardcore or casual ?

Calhoun · 23-08-2014 10:48pm

I will be focused on a bit of everything, I don't plan to do raid hardcore but will try get to interesting content when it comes up.

My primary focus will wpvp/pvp but I also wanna do the garrison stuff ect. How about you ?

Vicxas · 25-08-2014 11:32am

ryanakabyitz wrote: »

so what is everyone's plans for wod ? will you be focusing on pve or pvp ? hardcore or casual ?

Im always PVE, i never got into PVP but seeing as all the delish mounts are starting to pop up there I may have to whet my beak.

TheDoc · 26-08-2014 12:29pm

ryanakabyitz wrote: »

so what is everyone's plans for wod ? will you be focusing on pve or pvp ? hardcore or casual ?

PvE, I guess somewhat reverting to the hardcore.

The last two expansions have been a bit wandering for me, as my guild stopped raiding, and for me that was everything in WoW. I've enjoyed Flex to a certain extent and the gearing path it provides. I've also been interested in the gold making side of the AH, and just levelling alts and gearing them

A friend got in touch to tell me his old raiding guild were coming back together for WOD. They are planning to go through flex and then normal before launch to get people back in the mood, and then in WoD aim for mythic raiding(they always raided at the hardcore level).

It seems well run and good, and the times are grand. Mon/Tues 7-10. They won't be pushing any server firsts, but having a look back on their history they are pretty efficent for the hours they put in.

So I'm hoping WoD shoots a big boost for me for woW, as the last two expansions have been pretty laxadazicle.

Also be interesting operating back on Horde side, currently levelling up the characers I plan to raid with in WoD. Warlock main and DK tank alt.

Only downside is there went for a high pop realm, Kazzak. Looks like I'll be using the RDP stockades trick to keep logged in

Keifie · 26-08-2014 4:52pm

Logged back in for the first time in almost 2 years, based on the WoD news and reports. I've never had so much guild spam! I remember having to fight for a guild spot.

Still, handy to get into for the bonuses

Vicxas · 26-08-2014 4:55pm

Keifie wrote: »

Logged back in for the first time in almost 2 years, based on the WoD news and reports. I've never had so much guild spam! I remember having to fight for a guild spot.

Still, handy to get into for the bonuses

Guild bonus' will carry you 95% of the way

killanena · 27-08-2014 4:30pm

I haven't had much time to follow the news behind WoD, Is it looking good?
Would it be worth my time to make a new account? buy all the expansions and level up a new character for the launch of it?

I have played every expansion at some point but I don't have access to my old account any more.

shruikan2553 · 27-08-2014 4:43pm

killanena wrote: »

I haven't had much time to follow the news behind WoD, Is it looking good?
Would it be worth my time to make a new account? buy all the expansions and level up a new character for the launch of it?

I have played every expansion at some point but I don't have access to my old account any more.

The expansion gives you a lvl 90 character and mists will probably be part of the basic game so I would wait until then

MagicIRL · 28-08-2014 11:19am

Playing PvE with mentalguild.eu. Looking forward to it.

Shanotheslayer · 28-08-2014 2:54pm

ryanakabyitz wrote: »

so what is everyone's plans for wod ? will you be focusing on pve or pvp ? hardcore or casual ?

PvE at the start, and than once I can only get tough gear I'll play PvP to make the time go by quicker.

Currently in MoP i'm rep grinding and acheivement whoring as I see no point in trying to get great gear as it'll be easy replaced soon

Kiith · 28-08-2014 3:05pm

Get my Paladin to 90, maybe level my Warlock to 90 as well, and get a horde character up as well before launch.

After launch, just level my way through, and spend a fair amount of time in my Garrison. Also, go in search of all the old school characters and try get into the lore again. Never a raider, so i'll probably quit after levelling one of two to max level.

World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor

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